Is PTI doing any deal? Humayun Mohmand's reaction

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00:00 Senator Humayun, sir, you tell us, what is your understanding,

00:05 the news coming from London, then Shabaz Sharif leaving,

00:09 then the reaction to that, the statement of Faisal Wadah yesterday,

00:13 today Durrani sir, Nawaz Sharif is saying, leave the past,

00:17 and you are meeting people, answer both the questions, Senator Humayun.

00:22 What is up to?

00:24 In the name of Allah, I don't know what is the outcome of Durrani sir's meetings with our leadership,

00:35 or what is the topic, I am sure he is trying something somewhere,

00:41 and you know, as a political worker, I appreciate…

00:45 Sir, you must be surprised, as a party member, senator,

00:50 what is happening, first meeting with the President, then your three-member committee,

00:55 in which your party's representative is also present, who is looking at all the issues,

00:59 after chairman PTI, out of curiosity, you must know something.

01:03 Look, I am not surprised, when the party takes a decision,

01:07 they give us their policy, and I take that policy,

01:10 I am not surprised, whatever happens, I take it from there onwards.

01:14 As far as what is happening in London, and what Mr. Nawaz Sharif has tried to make his statement,

01:21 obviously, he has to make a statement, because he does not have any statement of his own.

01:27 He cannot say that when we came, the dollar was 170, and when we left, it was 305,

01:34 when we came, the petrol was 150, and we all together, all the parties of PDM,

01:39 we all together did 3-4 long marches, but when we were leaving, it was 300 rupees,

01:45 and none of us did a long march, no one cared that the petrol was so expensive.

01:50 He cannot say that when we came, our exports were growing by 18-10% from the previous year,

02:00 and when we were leaving, it was going to -18%, so he cannot say that.

02:05 He cannot say that when we were coming, when we were leaving,

02:10 the growth that had happened, the growth of the tax collection, the growth of exports,

02:17 all those things, they had gone down a lot while we were there, so he cannot say that.

02:21 So now he has to make his statement.

02:23 His statement is that in his mind, the anti-establishment statement is sold.

02:28 Although, when he took the name of General Bajwa, he had appointed General Bajwa.

02:33 General Bajwa's reference, Sanaullah's -

02:36 Like you all used to do, when you all didn't have any difficulty.

02:40 Let me talk. Santosh ji, let me talk.

02:42 General Bajwa's reference, Rana Sanaullah's statement -

02:46 Rana Sanaullah's statement that we did all this together,

02:52 and then Khawaja Asif's - but I don't understand that,

02:56 General Bajwa's father-in-law, Mian Shahbaz Sharif, we used to meet secretly,

03:03 I don't know why we used to meet.

03:05 After that, he took the name of General Faiz.

03:08 General Faiz, the time we are talking about, 2017,

03:12 General Faiz was not the chief of ISI, he was DGC or something like that.

03:17 Now, at that time, he was one of his relatives, who was DG ISI,

03:22 I don't know, but they say that General Naveed was with him,

03:27 they had good relations, or knew each other, or something like that.

03:31 Now, I don't know how they talk about General Faiz,

03:34 because all this happened, at the time -

03:37 But look, this is my point of view.

03:39 My point of view is this, and my colleagues sitting with you,

03:45 they are both lawyers, and good lawyers.

03:48 My question is, my country's Prime Minister, sitting Prime Minister,

03:54 is taking another country's work permit and is working in that country.

04:01 Whether he gets paid or not, that is a different story.

04:05 I should understand, whether the country's sitting Prime Minister,

04:10 or sitting President, of another country,

04:14 can be a small company's employee.

04:18 This is a big question for me, and I think it is a big moral question.

04:22 This was addressed in great detail by the Supreme Court.

04:25 This is a very old story, tell me,

04:28 Mr. Durrani, who is meeting you, you don't know, but I will tell you.

04:31 One minute, when Mr. Khawaja Asif was met, he had declared,

04:37 he had not even declared in his documents.

04:40 Okay, when he comes, we will see that.

04:44 He says to the PTI people, he asked a question,

04:47 why do you guys fight, when the election suits you more?

04:51 So, is there a deal? Is this also a discussion?

04:55 Why and on whose orders is Mr. Durrani contacting?

04:58 This is a big question behind all these things.

05:01 Look, Pakistan suits justice by elections.

05:05 No matter what happens, no matter how it happens,

05:09 if these people do small or big business,

05:12 we still accept it.

05:14 Because when someone is married,

05:16 he is not afraid of what kind of next wife he has,

05:19 he has his own way of empire.

05:22 But what we regret is that all these political parties

05:28 have given a precedence to this election commission,

05:32 that we can cancel article 224 without any problem.

05:39 So what is the election commission doing now?

05:41 The election commission is doing the same thing again.

05:43 The elections that should have been held in April and have not been held till now,

05:48 the administration that should have ended after April,

05:52 is still going on, the same thing is happening now.

05:56 The same things are happening in a larger scale.

05:59 Now I understand, look, what happens is that

06:02 when we take decisions, there are consequences.

06:06 And there are consequences of previous decisions.

06:09 So when these people have taken such decisions

06:13 that they have destroyed the whole constitution,

06:17 the constitution that these people were made by party leaderships,

06:22 they had ruined that constitution for their own benefit at their time.

06:26 So today, the same ruling is stopping us.

06:32 But you are standing on principle.

06:34 Senator Omayy, you are standing on principle at this time

06:37 and you will not go towards any deal, you will go towards the people.

06:41 No one will get the result from Durrani's meetings

06:44 that some issues are being resolved behind the door.

06:47 This is the answer you are giving me.

06:49 Look, what I think, I also heard Durrani's words,

06:54 I think, I have mentioned this in a program before,

06:59 I have also said it in a couple of places, and he has also said the same thing.

07:02 Look, if you want to solve something,

07:06 then you have to go into history and see

07:10 what were the big incidents that solved these big problems.

07:15 So I will mention two incidents, a small incident and a big incident.

07:18 The small incident was South Africa, Nelson Mandela,

07:21 truth and reconciliation, everyone came and told the truth

07:25 that we made this mistake and we were forgiven.

07:27 But the biggest incident is that when Allah gives you a position of power,

07:33 you follow the example of the Prophet (pbuh)

07:37 and he did not take any revenge.

07:40 He did not take revenge from the woman who had crushed his uncle's heart,

07:44 but what did he do? He forgave in general.

07:47 So I think if we want to take this country forward,

07:51 you take all these things and forgive in general,

07:54 and after that, while doing all the truth and reconciliation,

07:58 all the political parties, we all made mistakes,

08:02 all the institutions, we all made mistakes.

08:05 We should accept our mistakes, apologize to the public,

08:08 and move forward and not repeat these mistakes.

08:12 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

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