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Outlook Business | WoW 2019 Bengaluru - Neha Singh
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7/28/2023
Watch our next speaker Neha Singh who moved from a small scale business to a data powerhouse with her perseverance and dedication. She is the co-founder of Tracxn, view the video to know about her journey!
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00:00
So you know, I was seated backstage thinking that growing a business is, or rather growing
00:06
a successful enterprise is really a tough call, right?
00:10
For us women, it's almost like birthing a child.
00:15
It requires a lot of perseverance, some serious leadership skills, and of course, on your
00:20
feet critical thinking.
00:23
Everyone wants to climb the top of a mountain.
00:26
But the truth is that real happiness and real growth lies in the journey, in the climb.
00:33
Ladies and gentlemen, our next woman of worth is here to talk about her climb of scaling
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up a small startup into a data powerhouse.
00:44
The venture funds, that venture funds, private equity, and corporates today absolutely cannot
00:50
do without.
00:51
Please put your hands together as we welcome on stage Outlook Business Women of Worth superstar,
00:57
co-founder Traction Neha Singh.
01:02
Okay, there she comes.
01:10
Come on, let's welcome her with a warm round of applause.
01:23
Hi all.
01:25
Firstly, glad to see such a big audience of female entrepreneurs in Bangalore.
01:32
This is probably the biggest, you know, group that I would have seen in, you know, across
01:36
all the past years.
01:38
And also this conference is unique in a sense that the female restroom has the largest line,
01:43
which is very unlike most of the conferences where it's, like, nearly empty.
01:49
So I don't know how many of you know Traction.
01:51
We co-founded that about five years back.
01:53
It's essentially an easy way to think about us is that just like Bloomberg is for public
01:59
companies, we're building a platform for private companies, which investors and corporates
02:04
use.
02:05
I wanted to spend some time in highlighting some of the things that I have learned on
02:09
the way and, you know, see if that is helpful for people over here.
02:14
So I don't know if this works.
02:24
Okay.
02:27
So how many of people here want to do a startup and are looking for an idea?
02:37
Is there?
02:38
Okay.
02:39
Or people who are already doing a startup?
02:41
Most of them?
02:42
Okay.
02:43
Cool.
02:44
So the first thing is about -- okay.
02:45
A lot of people that I meet is they want to do a startup and are looking for the idea.
02:50
And the first thing is about which idea to choose.
02:52
So my learning has been that you should pick an idea that you really want to solve.
02:57
You can be opportunistic about it, that, you know, that's a big market in U.S. or a big
03:02
market in China, and you want to build a large domestic market over here.
03:07
But I think the key thing that I have learned is that, you know, it should be a problem
03:10
that you want to solve for, say, the next ten years.
03:14
Because good chances is that, you know, in a startup, there are a lot of highs, but there
03:18
are also a lot of lows.
03:20
So there are a lot of times when your conviction is tested, and at that time, you have to really
03:25
love and stay excited about doing that.
03:29
So that's probably the first thing.
03:30
And even if your startup is, like, really successful, which I wish for a lot of you,
03:35
you know, become, your journey for doing that is going to be long.
03:39
So for instance, if you look at the average time to IP of a company, it's about ten years.
03:44
So you'll be probably doing that for a good time of your professional career.
03:48
So it better be a problem that you like to do.
03:55
The next thing after you've chosen your idea and, you know, have decided to take the plunge,
04:02
the thing is about hiring -- the first challenge that a lot of us face is about hiring your
04:06
initial team.
04:08
So someone actually gave me a very interesting tip, which I incorporated while hiring our
04:13
initial team, which worked very brilliantly, and I would love to share.
04:17
So what I did was that I made a list of 15 to 20 people that I really respected, and
04:25
I called them up and asked them that, you know, in all their professional life, say,
04:29
they would have worked for, say, five, six years, who are the top three people that they
04:34
would really recommend; right?
04:37
And you'd be surprised at really interesting names come up when you ask this question to
04:41
people.
04:42
And what I did was that I, you know, made a long list when people gave their top three
04:46
recommendations, sometimes they did not remember at the top of their head, so I'll call them
04:50
after a couple of days, give them time to think, and then ask them this question again.
04:55
In about a few days, my list of candidates, so I had people who had been recommended by,
05:01
like, you know, three or four people.
05:03
Which means that, you know, these are, like, really nice people, and when I'm meeting them,
05:07
I'm actually not judging them for their functional abilities, which is anyways very difficult
05:12
to do in the first meeting.
05:14
What I'm looking at is more the fit.
05:16
You know, are they looking to join at that position or at that stage of the company?
05:21
So that makes your mistakes in hiring the initial team much lesser.
05:28
Yeah.
05:31
The next thing which we have debated a lot about, you know, within hiring also, within
05:36
the company, we are now 800 people strong, is what is the quality that you look for,
05:42
especially in your leadership team; right?
05:45
So the first which comes to your mind is obviously fit.
05:48
That the person has to be willing to come to a startup of that stage, because most likely
05:53
you're going to ask them to take a pay cut.
05:56
So firstly they have to be ready to come to startup of that stage for the role, et cetera.
06:00
So that's probably the first thing.
06:02
But the one thing which I found to be most interesting is asking the simple question
06:09
is can you trust the decision that this person takes; right?
06:13
So when you're working in a team, you can have a logical debate if you don't agree with
06:19
the person's point of view, but it's very important that you are ultimately able to
06:24
trust their decisions.
06:26
If you don't end up doing that, then what happens is that you're typically taking decisions
06:30
for all the departments.
06:31
You're taking the picking of the top projects for marketing, top projects for ops, et cetera,
06:36
which you can do probably initially, but as the company scales, it's very difficult to
06:40
do that, and then you ultimately become the bottleneck for a lot of decisions.
06:45
So this is another interesting thing that I have learned.
06:50
The next is getting the product market fit.
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So most of the startups in the early stage fail because of not getting the product market
07:00
fit rather than because of lack of funding.
07:03
For that, it's very important that I have also learned firsthand is doing the initial
07:08
sales yourself.
07:09
In our case, our customers are venture capital investors.
07:13
I spent the initial one or two years inïżœ so I was in Stanford earlier, and we also
07:19
started Traction there.
07:21
If for people who know around Stanford, Sand Hill Road is the biggest concentration of
07:26
VC funds, like globally.
07:29
And so I would have met, like, you know, nearly dozens of people in that area.
07:34
To a point that I would, you know, remember or know each of the streets and each of the
07:38
parking lots.
07:39
And I've visited them, like, multiple times.
07:42
So it's very important to actually do the initial sales, because only then you understand,
07:47
you know, how the customer is, what do they think, what is their work flow.
07:52
And that comes in very handy when you are taking the product decisions later on.
07:56
Because as your company scales, you get less and less time to do that, because you have
08:00
many other things to also worry about.
08:07
The next thing is competition.
08:09
So a lot of founders actually, you know, like young founders, I've seen them, they worry
08:14
about competition a lot.
08:16
You know, they are fretting about it, they are tracking, you know, what is the new thing
08:19
that they have launched very, very closely.
08:22
My learning has been that, you know, worry about competition.
08:26
To give you a simple example, like, you know, one competition has lost a service for 100
08:31
rupees.
08:32
And you think, oh, you should also be competitive and you're launching -- you're trying to match
08:35
the same price point of 100 rupees.
08:38
After a year, everyone realizes that, you know, it was never affordable in the first
08:42
place to be selling at that price point.
08:44
And both of the companies had a tough time.
08:47
So typically, most likely you only see the highs of your competition.
08:53
And for your company, you see the day-to-day struggle.
08:56
So what I've realized is that more often than not, your competition scenario is not as rosy
09:03
as you imagine it to be.
09:05
And it's not as bad for you as you imagine it to be.
09:09
If your competition is someone like -- or someone like an Amazon or a Google or a Gorilla
09:14
like that enters your space, then probably it's another thing.
09:19
Then my sympathies are with you.
09:21
But apart from that, for most other people, you can do away with worrying less about what
09:26
the competition is doing.
09:31
The last thing is pitching to investors.
09:33
This is something that a lot of founders also go through.
09:38
So I've also been like a VC earlier, and I've seen this in both the avatars.
09:44
Typically what I've seen is that people give a lot of importance to pitching how well they
09:49
have executed.
09:52
How well they have executed, how well the team is.
09:55
But if you look at how a VC looks at their world, for them, typically for most early
10:02
stage, growth stage venture capital funds, first is market, second is team, and third
10:08
is execution.
10:10
So you have to give a lot of importance of selling the market to the investors as well.
10:17
Or selling what your perception is of how the market is going to unfold.
10:23
Once they are sold on the market opportunity that this large space, then it's much easier
10:29
to convince them about that you have a great execution or that you have a great team.
10:37
So this is some of the things that I have learned on the way.
10:42
In case anyone has any questions, we would be happy to take.
10:47
But yeah, this kind of summarizes most of it.
10:53
[APPLAUSE]
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
11:05
Ladies and gentlemen, a louder round of applause.
11:08
Thank you for candidly sharing what we can do better.
11:11
Thank you so much.
11:12
[APPLAUSE]
11:12
[MUSIC PLAYING]
11:15
[BLANK_AUDIO]
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