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AI tech detecting disease in blood
ABC NEWS (Australia)
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7/21/2023
Queensland scientists are using artificial intelligence to detect diseases under a microscope. The technology has been 10 years in the making and could be a game changer.
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The system's been developed over 10 years and it is now doing 17 different tests and
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that will soon increase. So our aim is to use the, replace the glass microscope slides
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with computer imaging.
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Right, okay, so you program a computer?
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Yes, what we've built is an intelligent scanner and the scanner knows what it's looking for
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when it does the scanning and it produces a very high quality image at multi-resolutions
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like Google Earth and then the diagnosis is done on that image rather than on the glass
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slide.
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Right, so the computer does the diagnosis as well, but you're not taking out humans
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completely from the process?
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Everything is signed off by a human. What we do is when we scan we also preview the
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slide and find out the important bits of the slide and so when the pathologist or the scientist
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looks at the slide they are told which parts of the slide are most relevant.
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Okay, interesting. So what does it do for the speed and the size of the samples being
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processed?
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It is fast and of course it's scalable because it's fully automated. So they've got four
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scanning machines now that process all their samples overnight and the diagnosis is much
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faster. It might go from 15 minutes down to 20, 30 seconds.
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Is there a margin for error or is there no error?
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The pathologists do exactly what they did before, but it's like having a junior pathologist
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look at it first and then tell the senior pathologist what they think is wrong and where
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the problems are.
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I was interested to read that not much has changed in the field of microscopy since the
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1800s. Why has that been and therefore this is such an enormous leap?
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Yes, the idea of looking through microscopes to find germs was what Louis Pasteur did in
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the 1800s and he developed the germ theory of disease which is totally accepted now.
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Before then they thought that bad air, smelly air made people sick. So he developed the
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whole field of pathology and it's still people looking through slides at germs.
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Is it just blood?
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No.
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Okay, what else?
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No, it's everything. Everything that goes through a path lab in a microscope we can
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put through our system.
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One final question because it's what people will be saying, "Oh, here we go again. Robots
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taking our jobs."
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We haven't seen that. There's a massive shortage of skills in the pathology industry. A lot
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of the pathologists are quite old and they are getting older, but people are getting
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sicker and they're living longer and so there's more and more demand for pathology. So one
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thing it's doing is addressing the skills shortage.
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