Chairmen PTI giraftar hony waly hain? janiye ander ki khabar
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00:00 I just wanted to talk to you about two things.
00:02 One is that the development that has been done today,
00:04 Mr. Khudrana Sanola, the government has also pressed conference on it later.
00:06 So, what do you think about this?
00:08 Legally speaking, in legal terms,
00:10 you have talked about everything politically,
00:12 how can this be problematic for Chairman PTI?
00:14 How exactly?
00:16 See, the promise of a promise is also a partner in crime.
00:20 And when it is a partner in crime,
00:22 it has two capacities.
00:24 One is that it is an equal partner.
00:28 The other is that it is subordinate.
00:30 That is why it is under the influence of its superior.
00:34 And it is doing what the superior wants.
00:38 So, in both the cases, the promise of a promise is that
00:44 I become responsible and the other person should come under it.
00:52 But for that, it is not enough to just state it,
00:56 it has to bring a lot of evidence.
00:58 Because it is a partner in crime,
01:00 the law does not easily declare it as a partner in crime
01:08 until the person it is taking the name of,
01:12 the witness of that person,
01:14 gets a lot of support from the evidence,
01:18 and he can present the evidence,
01:20 and with such unimpeachable circumstantial evidence,
01:24 if there is a corroboration,
01:26 then the evidence is a clue and is very important.
01:32 But if there is only evidence and no corroborative evidence,
01:38 that is, supportive evidence,
01:40 or unimpeachable evidence,
01:42 if it is not obtained,
01:44 if it is not that kind of evidence,
01:46 then it is seen as a suspicion.
01:50 You have just said about the promise of a witness,
01:54 and if there is a legal case against the Chairman PTI,
01:56 then it is not just a matter of a document,
01:58 I am coming to that,
02:00 what he has said about the cipher,
02:04 the Chairman PTI has taken a U-turn from him.
02:10 So, it means that the story he made at that time was wrong,
02:14 and his aim at that time was to save his government,
02:18 and the people in the assembly who had a majority,
02:22 he had to stop them from proving the majority,
02:26 and the voting should also stop,
02:28 and he should force his government,
02:30 and after that, he should bring down the assemblies.
02:32 And all this was in favor of bringing down the constitution.
02:36 So, if you look at all these things cumulatively,
02:42 then their intention is clear that
02:46 they wanted to perpetuate their government in a non-legal way,
02:52 and a legal process in the assembly,
02:54 of no confidence,
02:56 they tried to stop it,
02:58 and dissolved the national assembly,
03:00 which was also called illegal by the Supreme Court,
03:04 and one of the judges said that this is a fraud on the constitution,
03:08 and when there is fraud on the constitution,
03:10 then it is suspected of throwing the constitution,
03:12 and then the high treason can also be found in all this.
03:16 Okay, thank you very much, Irfan sir.
03:20 Mohammad Malik is with us, senior journalist.
03:24 Malik sir, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
03:26 Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
03:28 Malik sir, legally speaking,
03:30 keeping in mind the current situation,
03:32 you tell us, what is the intention of the government legally,
03:36 to do against Khan sir,
03:38 and to make this book a basis,
03:40 and maybe we are getting an indication of that from Irfan sir's discussion.
03:42 Finally, legally speaking,
03:44 can this case really put them in trouble,
03:46 or just to politically put them in a dent,
03:48 optics say that this will be broadcast on TV,
03:50 but legally,
03:52 it is not that they will get into a big problem because of this.
03:54 You see, I don't think that what damage will be done politically,
03:58 only the legal issues will be affected.
04:00 The vote bank is mentally ready,
04:02 that they have to dismantle Imran,
04:06 they have broken the party,
04:08 they have made people run away,
04:10 he was also missing for 20 days,
04:12 so when he comes, he will give a statement.
04:14 You can say that there were no surprises in that.
04:16 Right.
04:18 But, I wanted to listen to Irfan sir's words,
04:20 it is interesting,
04:22 if you remember, when the audio leak happened,
04:24 of Chairman PTI and Azam Khan,
04:26 Yes, yes.
04:28 When you listen to that,
04:30 Azam Khan sir was very proactively,
04:32 in fact, he was telling,
04:34 I will do this, I will make minutes,
04:36 then I have to bring records,
04:38 then the minutes are in my hands,
04:40 I will handle it.
04:42 He was actually,
04:44 proactively guiding the Prime Minister,
04:46 how to do this two-step work.
04:48 And, he is saving his life.
04:50 I think,
04:52 this will be a very serious case,
04:54 if you see the Prime Minister's oath,
04:56 there are two things in it,
04:58 one is that I will do anything,
05:00 my personal interest,
05:02 I will not let my responsibilities,
05:04 my Prime Minister's obligations,
05:06 be overpowered,
05:08 and to share information,
05:10 well, he has the power to reveal information,
05:12 that the Cabinet has declassified,
05:14 so that Cabinet will be gone.
05:16 But, this is not a very ordinary case,
05:18 and you see one thing,
05:20 the speed of cases being made,
05:22 and cases being collected,
05:24 is increasing rapidly.
05:26 But, this is a deliberate go-slow.
05:28 You will see, after 16th September,
05:30 you will see a rapid increase.
05:32 People are talking,
05:34 there are so many cases in 9th,
05:36 what happened in that, nothing is happening.
05:38 I think, 16th September is important.
05:40 And, secondly, one thing is very important,
05:42 tomorrow, you see,
05:44 tomorrow, there is a vacate,
05:46 in Lahore High Court,
05:48 against FIA,
05:50 so that, you cannot,
05:52 do an inquiry of leaks.
05:54 Tomorrow, that vacate is done.
05:56 Today, there is a case in Supreme Court,
05:58 of Military Courts,
06:00 and in that,
06:02 Attorney General's breath is like this,
06:04 that, for a long time,
06:06 statements are being made,
06:08 lies are being said,
06:10 against the country,
06:12 against the army,
06:14 and on that day,
06:16 this thing comes out.
06:18 This is not so disconnected.
06:20 Now, we have become old,
06:22 we have realized one thing,
06:24 when we were young, like you,
06:26 now we have seen,
06:28 that interesting coincidence, nothing happens,
06:30 there is always a method.
06:32 And, one thing can be extra,
06:34 but if three things come in line,
06:36 which is called lining of ducks,
06:38 in English, they say,
06:40 ducks are being aligned.
06:42 Now, I feel, legal ducks are being aligned,
06:44 for Imran Khan.
06:46 And, things are aligned.
06:48 And sir, in all the cases we have talked about,
06:50 in that, we ask you the next question,
06:52 what is your opinion,
06:54 this is the last question,
06:56 and the most important, I think,
06:58 what is your opinion,
07:00 is this really a conspiracy of PTI,
07:02 America has fallen,
07:04 or was it an anger of America,
07:06 that Khan sir has made it a good narrative,
07:08 and oversimplified it,
07:10 and sold it politically.
07:12 See, anti-America sentiment,
07:14 they say,
07:16 in Pakistan, three narratives are always sold,
07:18 AAA,
07:20 Allah, America, and Army.
07:22 If you say anything from any of the three,
07:24 then you get a very good audience.
07:26 And the case you have talked about,
07:28 how strong it is,
07:30 in Pakistan, the same case is as strong,
07:32 as the judiciary is weak.
07:34 So, you understand.
07:36 Thank you very much.
07:38 Thank you very much.