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The Scotsman Sessions #430: Kevin Lennon and Molly Innes
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29/01/2025
The Scotsman Sessions #430: Kevin Lennon and Molly Innes
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Now, ask me your questions.
00:13
Ah, well, it seems to me that we forget that the Picts were under pressure from two rival
00:23
Christianities, the Celtic and the Roman, and I wondered what bearing that might have
00:28
had on the symbols on the stones.
00:32
Don't tell me, Mr Mack, that you have some romantic notion that Columba and his Iona
00:37
gang were soft and cuddly while the Northumbrians were hardened criminals.
00:42
It doesn't matter which Christianity won out in Pictland, the biggest losers were always
00:48
going to be the Picts.
00:49
I don't think you could really survive in the 6th century by being cuddly.
00:55
Columba was a warrior before he was a saint.
01:00
Whatever you think of his faith, he comes across as somebody quite heroic.
01:03
And what do you think of his faith?
01:06
I think he was a man of his time.
01:09
Don't equivocate.
01:10
What do you mean?
01:12
I don't know what his faith consisted of.
01:15
I think he was doing what most of us do, searching around for meaning.
01:21
Well, at least you have an opinion.
01:24
But you don't sound very convinced.
01:26
It was a long time ago.
01:27
I wasn't there.
01:28
I don't mean about Columba, I mean about faith.
01:32
I'm not convinced.
01:36
Then what on earth are you doing being a minister?
01:39
If that's how you feel about it, get out!
01:42
Make room for a genuine dyed-in-the-wool hypocrite.
01:47
Ah, wait a minute.
01:49
This isn't about your wife, is it?
01:53
I beg your pardon?
01:55
You haven't fallen out with God because he took your wife away from you, have you?
02:01
God had absolutely nothing to do with it.
02:04
I'm aware of that.
02:07
I fell out with God, as you put it, long before Jenny died.
02:13
But I'm wondering why you take so strongly against him.
02:17
If you're an atheist, why does he bother you so much?
02:21
He doesn't bother me.
02:23
It's you lot that bother me, regurgitating stories about heaven and hell and causing endless misery as a result.
02:30
Anyway, I am not an atheist.
02:32
How do I know what's out there?
02:34
And after this, I'm an agnostic.
02:37
I'm only concerned with what we know.
02:39
With what we can know.
02:43
Me too.
02:45
Do you mind if I call you Gideon?
02:48
It's a hell of a name, but Mr Mac sounds like something out of a children's television programme.
02:56
Gideon's fine.
02:58
Look, do you drink whisky?
03:01
Good.
03:03
Fetch us a couple of glasses and pour us a drink.
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