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Authorities grow concerned when a 25-year-old woman reports her 50-year-old father and 6-year-old daughter missing. Police discover their dead bodies and uncover the shocking truth she is a psychotic killer.
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00:00How can I share something?
00:30All their clothes are missing, pillows, camping equipment.
00:39I don't even know if they really left Florida.
00:42I talked to my dad about maybe seeing if he could take over and watch her for me, because
00:48she doesn't want to, she has that opposition of the financing, but 23rd was last day that
00:54we heard from them.
00:55Okay, so you need to see the officer, they're saying they have to make contact with you.
00:59See you next time.
01:00I'm dead.
01:01I'm alive.
01:02I don't think it was wrong.
01:06The thing inside of me is like the appetite.
01:19It's like a wolf that's going younger.
01:24When the police arrive, Cheyenne Jessie's not crying, she doesn't sound worried.
01:44Her daughter is a six-year-old who has medical needs, has behavioral problems, appointments
01:49with doctors, and it seems really unusual that a mother would wait a week to call 911.
01:56This is a context in which I think the police should be thinking this woman knows a great
02:02deal more than she's letting on.
02:03That was Meredith and Cheyenne's relationship with, you know, mother-daughter.
02:04How was she as a kid?
02:05She could really be held up sometimes.
02:06She had her good days where she was a perfect angel.
02:07And then when she saw her, she could really be held up sometimes.
02:13And then she, sometimes it's like flipping a switch.
02:14She could be completely miserable.
02:20We took her to Peace River and everything, and they got her diagnosed with opsel defiancy.
02:27daughter how was she as a kid she could really be held up sometimes she had her good days where
02:34she was a perfect angel and then she sometimes just like flipping a switch she could be completely
02:41miserable we took her to peace river and everything they got her diagnosed with uh
02:48also defiancy bipolar and oh adhd did that ever put a strain on yours and change relationship uh
03:03yeah
03:07and okay if you don't mind me asking at one point i told her if we don't get some kind of help for the
03:15kid i ain't gonna be able to pull up with her we would expect a loving mother to say okay well
03:22then you must leave because my first obligation is to my child but instead jesse sees her daughter
03:28as an object that gets in her way she doesn't find any use in her she's blocking her from what she
03:35wants as we learn more about jesse we find out that she has a complicated relationship with her
04:04father there's confrontation there's anger irritability according to her boyfriend this
04:10complicates the features for someone with psychopathy because since they don't regulate emotions
04:16like a healthy person does um it makes them more frustrated when they can't just get what they want
04:22so they tend to become quite impatient and short with people they ask for something when they don't
04:26get it they get angry and they react while meredith has been gone have you attempted to call um mark
04:35i'm tempted to call him i texted him and he sent me the text messages
04:41that he ain't coming back and get go ahead and get rid of all this stuff i'm taking meredith up to her
04:47grand lunch in georgia so when she got home i let her read the text message what did she do or how she
04:54had it oh she broke down she cried i said what the best thing to do right now see if you can get
05:01in touch with me okay so the morning after you get these text messages you and her go to mark's house
05:07yeah um when you're over there did you smell anything uh yeah a real horrible smell uh
05:18uh then she uh pulled a coon out from underneath the house and uh threw it out in the woods she said she
05:29found dead rats but she also asked me something funny at walmart how long does it take maggots to
05:39decay the body and she asked me if i thought one of those big 55 gallon tubs would hold a lot i think
05:50jesse thought that she had control over cody i think she thought that she could you know use her
05:57feminine ways and victim mentality and in turn she was buying his loyalty but that's not what happened
06:04he comes out and tells police everything one of the traits of psychopathy is trying to control
06:10other people and control the story that's being told about you to others and the way she did that
06:15or attempted to do that with cody sort of backfired is there anything else you want to tell us
06:20come thinking about something else this is right now i had nothing to do with that
06:34but i'm gonna start from from the beginning kenya frankly if you wanted to help i wanted to help
06:45like my daughter we found so did you talk did you talk to the kids you try to call them did you ever
06:50talk to them on sunday no just talk to them on monday i know i didn't try myself i just i drove by
06:56there and they weren't home it just stunk in there it just smelled like
07:04dead rats or dead something
07:09well i did find some rats and stuff and i threw them away i searched the house there was nothing
07:13in there i found a coon underneath the house i took it out and threw it what do you think happened to
07:19your dad and your daughter
07:24his girlfriend texted me and said that he rented a car monday i'm afraid that like maybe he didn't
07:31leave zorda and went over to baby's house and she did something
07:41that's what i'm feeling i think she might have hurt them or something or maybe she has them in
07:46her house i know you have a very tough life okay uh having to deal with your daughter and the
07:52situations and do you love your daughter with all my heart all right but i know you're having a tough
08:00time with that and and it's affecting you in the relationship um because you said that even with
08:06your daughter not there it's made it better for you and cody to work on your problems so we can handle her
08:14there's an idea in the concept of psychopathy that we talk about which is called shallow affect which
08:20refers to the idea that people don't have a wide range of emotions we just get this monotonous kind
08:27of tone describing things but putting out some ideas that in and of themselves are actually quite
08:32distressing maybe she's been hurt by girlfriend vicky right she's trying out different narratives
08:38about what might have happened that will help shift the blame from her i think that's a manipulative
08:43strategy that uh to keep the police guessing uh keep the police busy but not paying attention to her
08:51i'm telling you right now i just need you to be honest with me i don't think you found a dead
08:54wreck okay i really don't think that there's blood at the house and you know the blood's there
09:02you knew the blood was there when you're at the house you knew before the police got there
09:06no i didn't yes you did yes you did where are you i don't know all i know is that when i take my
09:15medicine i pass out and i don't remember what happens to what happened during the time that i'm
09:20you passed out i don't believe that okay this little show is not working
09:26it's not a show you're not crying there's not one tear your daughter she doesn't have a medication
09:31and not one tear is falling from your face so don't try to make him come out i am crying i just
09:39can't i'm dehydrated i'm dehydrated that's biologically ridiculous right this is someone who
09:49doesn't respond well when things get overwhelming who does not like to be challenged who does not like
09:57when things get rough when things don't happen the way she just wants them to happen and will respond
10:04negatively will respond in a way in which other people were not anticipating she's definitely
10:10saying the first thing that comes to mind to try to make it more reasonable but the problem is is that
10:15that her reasonableness is so ridiculous that it's unbelievable
10:28you're looking at what's your question
10:33why did you ask going at walmart if he thinks the body would fit in a 55 gallon
10:38you're looking at what's your question about what's your question about what's your question about
10:47did cody give you an ultimatum did he say you need to tie it up with your daughter or else did he tell you that
10:53i know
11:07i know it's hard i know it's going to be real tough to tell me that you know you want to think about a person
11:11Don't tell me the truth.
11:13I know you want to.
11:15I think you're a bad person.
11:16I always had to defend myself from my daddy,
11:18so I told him to get rid of my daughter
11:20because I can't take care of her no more.
11:22You had to defend yourself from your dad?
11:24My dad's always gotten angry at me and yelled
11:26and then gets in my face and punches the wall and stuff.
11:30I've always had the coward in the corner.
11:32So what's the abuse of when you dropped Meredith home?
11:36You're just verbal.
11:37Yeah, he's verbal.
11:38He said that you're a horrible mom for just dropping
11:41your kid off and leaving.
11:43Like your mother, you're just like your mother.
11:44You dropped the kid off and you leave her.
11:48And I'm like, now I ask you to take her for me.
11:51Those are the work with my dad around.
11:57And now she's a victim, someone who's afraid,
12:00afraid of Mark Wheatley, and terrified and vulnerable.
12:05So this is setting the stage for a new narrative.
12:07If there's a physical threat, we generally
12:10accept the idea that a person has the right
12:12to physically defend themselves.
12:14So she's planting the seeds that it wasn't just verbal.
12:17It was physical.
12:18Harm is being done to her by this aggressive, violent man,
12:22her father.
12:23What happened?
12:24I don't remember.
12:26It's like they came to a different person,
12:28like I blacked out.
12:29And what happened when you blacked out?
12:30You eventually woke up because you cleaned up.
12:32So what happened?
12:33And it may have been because your man,
12:34your dad came at you and stuff went wrong.
12:34I don't know.
12:35I don't know.
12:36I don't know.
12:37I don't know.
12:38When someone says they black out, especially
12:39in a criminal case, it's usually a convenient excuse to discard any sort of responsibility.
12:42Jessie's placing blame on her medication and why she takes medication.
12:46She's not just controlling the situation of how police are seeing her, but she's displacing
12:52blame, which is a key psychopathic trait.
12:54They don't take any responsibility for what they've done.
13:04Taking responsibility is not in their mentality whatsoever.
13:10So what happened when you got there?
13:11Did he come at you with a knife?
13:12He came at me like, no.
13:14And you just put my knife.
13:16They didn't take my knife.
13:18But then, they took my knife.
13:21I'm sorry.
13:22I didn't take my knife.
13:23He came at me like this.
13:25With a knife?
13:26This way, and then my daughter was coming this way,
13:28and so I remember you pushing her away.
13:31And then what did you do?
13:34I kicked him in his balls, and then he got
13:37saw him warn I wanted to live on the floor.
13:40And then I stabbed him in his chest.
13:42What room did this happen in?
13:45You grabbed your gun?
13:46Yeah.
13:47After you stabbed him?
13:48Yeah, and he was still alive.
13:51He said, I'm going to kill you two .
13:54I pushed it down and fired it on his neck.
13:57He shot his neck?
13:58Yeah.
13:59OK.
14:00And then did you see blood on your daughter?
14:04I don't remember that.
14:05I don't remember that at all.
14:07I remember that I was little scared.
14:12Did you stab your daughter?
14:13No.
14:14Who stabbed your daughter?
14:15I'm not scared.
14:19This is where you see the remarkable ability
14:21and invent a story very quickly.
14:23The minute he says, did he come at you with a knife?
14:26She's like, yes.
14:28She's already playing the acting.
14:29She's making it up as she goes.
14:32It is a remarkable example of how rapidly a psychopath can
14:35generate what might be a compelling narrative to someone
14:38who, like, falls for the tears and then the apparent detail in what she's saying.
14:44This is the new scenario.
14:46This is the new reality she wants to create.
14:47At what point did you give first aid to your daughter?
14:53I went over there and then I grabbed her.
14:55Her neck popped backwards.
15:00It was horrifying.
15:01There was blood coming out of everywhere.
15:03Well, where was the injury at?
15:05Can you point it on my neck?
15:06It was straight through the all the way back through her jugular.
15:10That's what I kind of covered and I'm like, Meredith, Meredith.
15:14And I thought, did my go out of here?
15:16I'm like, no, Meredith, please.
15:19One question I have is, there's, in the couch on that seat,
15:23there's, like, slash marks there on puncture holes.
15:26How'd that happen?
15:27I just tried to make it look like the dog was on there.
15:32I don't know.
15:33I just, I didn't want to look at the couch anymore.
15:36So after they were gone, like, the hell,
15:39I thought I started stabbing the couches and, like, I would piss off.
15:46I would have anticipated her to be crying.
15:49And it isn't.
15:50It's not the time that she's crying.
15:52It's cold.
15:54It's meant for other people to see her as a grieving mother.
15:58But she's not a grieving mother.
16:01She didn't care that her daughter died.
16:04Then later, she says, I was angry.
16:07She was just so angry.
16:09She had been angry.
16:10She had been angry at Monroe for threatening to leave.
16:12She had been angry at her father for the abuses
16:15that she thought that she suffered from before.
16:17And she was most angry at her daughter
16:19because the daughter put her in a position
16:21to have to make a choice.
16:22And the psychopath doesn't like to be forced choice.
16:26What's up with the shovel that you took out of the bathtub?
16:30I'm trying to clean up the blood.
16:34The shovel left the crap that they left there.
16:37What crap?
16:39When the body dies, it releases the feces
16:42and then the water and stuff.
16:43It's like, I didn't know what to do.
16:46And it's just something that I see on my mind.
16:48So he attacked you with a knife, but he never cut you?
16:56I don't see any cuts.
16:58So if this was all done out of self-defense,
17:00why didn't you tell anybody?
17:01Why didn't you call the sheriff's office
17:03and let us know what happened?
17:05No.
17:07You should now believe that story.
17:08I think you stabbed your daughter
17:10because you wanted to get rid of her to save your relationship.
17:12No, I didn't.
17:13And you also killed your dad on purpose.
17:14There was no self-defense there.
17:16I don't understand, but we need to find them.
17:19Are they in the house?
17:20No, they were in the shed.
17:21I didn't know what to do.
17:24Are they in tubes or what?
17:26I just don't believe in two.
17:35What stands out here is that Jessie has no remorse, no shame,
17:40no feelings whatsoever that her daughter is dead,
17:44her dad is dead, and that she did this.
17:46And that's pretty consistent with the psychopath.
17:49So if she is crying or pretending to cry,
17:53I think it has more to do with her going to jail
17:56and being punished and losing the one thing that probably
17:59mattered the most to her, which was the affection
18:02and attention of Matthew Cody Monroe.
18:05According to reports, Cheyenne Jessie killed her father
18:23and daughter inside her father's home.
18:25She returned days later and put their bodies in plastic totes,
18:28then hid them in a neighbor's shed.
18:30Cheyenne Jessie, I think, is a product of a lot of different things.
18:35Her own psychopathy was probably a development
18:39of a deprived childhood.
18:41I think she ran up against a society in which she thought
18:44that the only thing that she had was her being a woman,
18:48and her being a woman meant that she needed to have a man.
18:51And the challenge that she received by having a six-year-old
18:55who was acting like a six-year-old,
18:57I think all of that was too overwhelming for her.
19:00And in her psychopathy, she was willing to completely detach
19:03from the relationships that she should have leaned on for support.
19:07I also think that those relationships,
19:09whether it was her father or whether it was her boyfriend
19:12or whether it was her daughter,
19:14were never really going to be healthy.
19:16And Cheyenne just responded in the only way that she knew how,
19:19and that's to be violent towards them.
19:27Jessie, who was accused of killing her father and her own daughter,
19:33has been found guilty on both counts.
19:36The jury did recommend Jessie be put to death
19:38for killing her daughter, but life in prison
19:41for murdering her father.
19:42The judge is scheduled to sentence Jessie on Friday.
19:57What would you use to cut it out?
20:02When the skill saw wasn't working,
20:04that's when I took a break and was going to get a rotary saw.
20:08I've been driving around just looking for a target of opportunity.
20:18I was a sick man.
20:19Everybody that met me would tell you they thought that I was a killer.
20:32I came back and set the house on fire.
20:34So I was like, OK.
20:35I'll watch that because that was plenty.
20:39I don't want you.
20:40I am crying.
20:41I just can't, I'm dehydrated.
20:43I was thinking about slicing people up and cutting them open,
20:52dissecting them, essentially.
20:55And I made sure that's dead because no dead man
20:57tests my tail.
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