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00:01Jess just tried to abduct Betsy.
00:02I'm gonna protect her.
00:04I believe you.
00:05I think that Jess is suffering from a thing called perinatal OCD.
00:09Probably since Betsy was born.
00:11Did you know that your husband confided in a female friend?
00:14Mrs. Charlotte Hinman.
00:15Did it make you angry, Jess?
00:17Were things really that bad?
00:18I want you to come home tonight.
00:19We just don't fucking bother coming back at all.
00:21What happened that you would leave your 10-month-old baby and your young son?
00:25How did you fracture her skull, Jess?
00:27I didn't.
00:28We feel we have sufficient evidence to convince the CPS to charge you with child abduction and child endangerment.
00:41Mommy's a bit upset.
00:43Oh, Mommy's a bit upset.
00:45Oh, Mommy's a bit upset.
00:47Oh, Betsy, did you do smelly poo?
00:51Oh, it's okay. Mommy will be back in a minute.
00:58Mommy will be back in a minute.
00:59Oh, Mommy's a bit upset.
01:00Mommy will be back in a minute.
01:01Bye-bye.
01:02Bye-bye.
01:03Mm-mm.
01:05Bye, love.
01:06Bye bye, thank you. Bye love. I'm gonna go and rescue George from the neighbors.
01:29Thanks a lot. Ed, Miss Andrew. Hey Ed. At this moment I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna put you on, speak at the other's ear. Right.
01:47She's been charged. Abduction and child cruelty. I'm so sorry Ed. They got proof that Jess left Frankie and Betsy unattended on Friday night,
01:58leaving the children alone. I mean these are serious charges Ed.
02:02Um, do they know why? She went to buy medicine from the corner shop. Their theory is that Betsy was most likely hurt before that.
02:11Police refused her bail. She's deemed a flight risk thanks to her US passport.
02:16But I'll be making a further bail application at her first court appearance tomorrow. In the morning.
02:22Bye bye. Bye bye.
02:28Oh God.
02:34You okay? Not really, no. Um...
02:38I really want to believe that she was ill when this happened. Um, but what if, in the heat of the moment, she knew what she was doing?
02:54Maybe she just snapped.
02:56You okay?
02:57You okay?
02:58Maybe she was ill when she did.
02:59You okay?
03:00You okay?
03:01You okay?
03:02He's gonna get a sec, or he changed the way.
03:04I don't think I did.
03:05I've added you.
03:06You okay?
03:07You okay.
03:08You okay?
03:09I'll be different.
03:10You okay?
03:11You okay?
03:12You okay?
03:13You'll take me, you okay?
03:14You okay?
03:15Yeah, okay?
03:17You okay?
03:18I'm okay?
03:19You okay?
03:20I know you.
03:21You okay?
03:22You better get him?
03:23I don't know.
03:53I don't know.
04:23You never know what's happening at home.
04:40Not when parents are pushed to their limits.
04:42I know that from my work and from my own childhood.
04:51How could I have been so blind?
04:53How did I not see that from the start?
04:57Or does every one of us have the capacity to make a single catastrophic decision that could blow up our entire life?
05:03When something like this hits your closest friends, the shockwaves ripple through every relationship in the group.
05:19And you just hope you come through it intact.
05:22No, not yet. We'll have to wait here until we're called.
05:45Is Ed here yet?
05:46I'm sure he'll be here any minute.
05:48Unless he's not coming.
05:51Liz, after we've had opening statements, I'll call you up to give you a character witness.
05:55In the likely event that you're not allowed to return home with the children, we thought...
05:59We thought that you could stay with me, Nick.
06:04Will you?
06:07That would help.
06:11Okay.
06:12Great.
06:12Okay.
06:17Okay, it's time.
06:22In addition to child abduction, you're also charged with cruelty to Betsy Carrisford, a person under 16,
06:29in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering and injury to health,
06:34contrary to Section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act of 1933.
06:42Do you plead guilty or not guilty?
06:49It's time.
06:53Not guilty.
06:56As you've entered a plea of not guilty, we'll proceed with mode and venue of trial.
07:00Mr. Hinman, are you making a bail application?
07:03Your Worship, I would like to argue for bail.
07:06My client has no previous convictions.
07:08She has strong community ties and is willing to comply with any conditions that the court may sue fit.
07:12The defendant, Jessica Carrisford, will be staying with me at my home address.
07:22And I can confirm that it is a stable and secure place for the duration of the bail period.
07:29And I'd also like to say that, beyond my observations as a doctor treating Betsy,
07:35I can also speak as a friend and say that Jess has always been a devoted mother.
07:43And she's a kind and thoughtful friend.
07:49In fact, she's the person that I would go to for advice on parenting my own children.
07:55So I can honestly tell you that all of this is completely out of character.
07:59Thank you, Dr. Burgess.
08:00We have considered the arguments, and bail has been granted with the following conditions.
08:20Mrs. Carrisford, you must reside at Dr. Liz Burgess' home address
08:24and have no unsupervised contact with any of your children.
08:28You are, however, permitted two supervised visits per week.
08:33Additionally, you must surrender your passport to the police.
08:35Do you understand these conditions, Mrs. Carrisford?
08:42Yes, Your Worship.
08:43Very well.
08:45We will adjourn the case until the 18th of September for a pre-trial review.
08:49Ensure you attend on that date, Mrs. Carrisford.
08:58Supervised visits per week.
08:59That's not enough.
09:00You must follow the provisions of your bail.
09:03Supervised visits only.
09:05While they're still investigating Betsy's injury, we have to play by the rules.
09:09I'm so sorry.
09:13I wasn't sure you'd come.
09:26Yeah.
09:30I don't understand how you left them on your own.
09:40I just wasn't coping.
09:41I'm so sorry.
09:45But you left them alone in the house and-and-and-and you never let the murderers go.
09:50I just needed a few minutes.
09:54So why have you been lying to me?
09:57I still don't even know how Betsy was hurt.
10:00And I keep telling myself that she must have fallen over in her playpen, that it was an accident.
10:07Was it?
10:08Or was that something else?
10:18I don't know.
10:19I don't know.
10:30Rob?
10:34Rob, where are you?
10:35We need to talk.
10:40Oh, hi.
10:41Er, er, who are you?
10:42I'm sorry.
10:43This is my other half.
10:44I haven't had a chance to break the news yet.
10:45Anyway, go on.
10:46What were you saying?
10:47News about what?
10:49Nice, quiet street.
10:50Decent-sized rooms.
10:52Personally, I think if you could-
10:53We are not selling this house.
10:54We haven't got a choice.
10:55Go on.
10:55Well, you can't.
10:56Not without my say-so.
10:57Well, actually, according to your husband-
10:59Yeah, but we're not married.
11:00Well, according to-
11:01I'm sorry, can you just go?
11:03No, because he hasn't finished.
11:04Go on.
11:04Don't leave.
11:07I want you to leave.
11:09What are you doing?
11:10I think I should go.
11:11Mm-hmm.
11:20You cannot sell our home.
11:23Well, I can, actually.
11:24I can do what I like, because it's my name on the deeds.
11:26Look, we can't afford to live here, right?
11:28And this move out of London is going to be good for all of us.
11:31What move?
11:31Out of London?
11:32Well, I've already spoken to my mum and dad.
11:33Oh, my God, I am not moving in with your parents.
11:37Our kids are happy here.
11:39Our friends are here.
11:40Fucking friends who don't help us when we need it.
11:43Like the Carrisfords and the Hindmans
11:45and all the other agrant pricks at the school gates
11:47who think they're better than me.
11:48No, I need this money.
11:49I need it for the business.
11:50Oh, what business?
11:51You're full of shit.
11:53You couldn't hold down a real job.
11:55That's why you've got this business.
11:56It was-
11:56They made you redundant when they sold through your crap.
11:59It was a restruct.
11:59Oh, yeah, a restruct.
12:01Yeah, yeah.
12:01What would you know about having a job?
12:04Don't you patronise me.
12:05You didn't want me to work.
12:07You wanted me here at home looking at our children.
12:09Okay, well, let's hope they don't grow up
12:10to be as mediocre and aimless as their mum.
12:13Oh, you bastard.
12:15You stripped away my ambition, my independence.
12:19You're the reason I'm in this position.
12:21Don't blame me for your boring existence.
12:23I never saw you complaining when you were spending my money.
12:26You're the one with the chip on your shoulder,
12:28walking around like a big man.
12:30When actually, do you know what you are, Rob?
12:31You're just a sad, middle-aged prick.
12:35I'm not moving.
12:36Okay.
12:37Yeah.
12:37All right, well, then stay.
12:38But you'll be on your own.
12:40Okay?
12:40Because I'm taking the kids with me.
12:41Yeah, yeah.
12:42I'm going to prove you're an unfit mum.
12:46You can cope on your own.
12:48I mean, look at you.
12:49No job, no house.
12:51You haven't worked in years.
12:53And who'd fucking want you?
12:55I'm going to find you someone to talk to.
13:17Someone who can make sense of everything you're going through.
13:25She's, uh, just done packing.
13:41How long is she staying?
13:42Um, till the trial?
13:47That could be a whole year.
13:50Don't you think this is a bit insane?
13:53What is?
13:54What about the children?
13:55I mean, she's got serious mental health issues.
13:57It's not like we can't trust her around the kids, Nick.
13:59I don't want to be the bad guy here, but she has been charged.
14:02And they still don't know how best she got the skull fracture.
14:05There's no evidence anyone with perinatal OCD ever hurt their child.
14:08And where else could she go?
14:10She's got no family over here.
14:12She's not allowed to go home with Ed and the kids.
14:14What can I do?
14:14Okay.
14:15You feel guilty.
14:17And I get it.
14:18But, Liz, come on.
14:19There's right and a wrong.
14:21And there's going completely overboard.
14:22A wrong?
14:24I'm sorry.
14:26Did she...
14:27You look exhausted.
14:46She was released on bail, then?
15:03Yeah.
15:04That's not looking good.
15:11So that's it?
15:12They think she did it?
15:13I don't know if you sound so delighted.
15:18I'm not.
15:21God, no.
15:21It's a terrible situation for all of them.
15:24What are the police saying now?
15:40Well, the police are convinced that she never wanted Betsy and that she hurt her baby under extreme distress because her marriage was imploding.
15:49Absolutely ridiculous.
16:05There's something I need to say for the record.
16:11Sounds ominous.
16:13It's about Ed.
16:18It's about Ed.
16:29Well?
16:31It's over.
16:36Nothing really happened.
16:38I...
16:40I'd rather not know the details.
16:53Are you sure?
16:55Unquestionably.
16:58Because I feel that if just...
17:00No, I mean it, Charlotte.
17:01If it's over.
17:02I don't want to know.
17:03I don't want to know.
17:03I don't want to know.
17:06Oh, my God.
17:36Hey. Hello. Are you ready?
17:42Right. Come on in.
17:47Right. OK, so we are absolutely sure she's ready to be discharged.
17:52It's going to be fine. Yeah?
17:56This is good news, Ed. Betsy's coming home, aren't you?
18:00I'm sorry. It's been so tough for you and Jess over the past few weeks.
18:04How is she? The house guest?
18:07Well, it's good that she's talking to a specialist.
18:10But it's early days, yeah?
18:12Come with me, you. Here we go.
18:15Right, so you remember I said Betsy's got to keep on taking these anti-seizure meds for the next few weeks.
18:21You'll be OK. We've got a whole rota worked out for you.
18:24You will not be on your own, OK?
18:26All right. Let's do it.
18:30All right.
18:31It's easier when parents don't fight you at every step, isn't it?
18:36Hmm.
18:38Bye-bye then, Betsy.
18:40Bye-bye.
18:41Let's go.
18:42Hi, Betsy. Hi.
19:01Good.
19:02Oh, hi, my babe.
19:05Do you?
19:05Oh, she looks so nice.
19:08Doesn't she?
19:10Can I?
19:11Oh, my sweetie.
19:15Oh, look. Can you show me your tooth?
19:18Ah.
19:20Hi.
19:22Frankie!
19:23This is back from the hospital.
19:25I like a word. I know he usually comes home early on a Friday.
19:36You OK?
19:37What's wrong, Frankie?
19:37What's up?
19:38Come here, Frankie.
19:39Come and say hi to Betsy.
19:40Frankie?
19:41Frankie?
19:42What's wrong, Frankie?
19:43What's up?
19:44Come here, Frankie.
19:44Come and say hi to Betsy.
19:45Frankie?
19:46Frankie?
19:47Come and say hi to Betsy.
19:47Frankie?
19:48Come and say hi to Betsy.
19:49Frankie?
19:50Frankie's completely shut down.
19:51I don't know.
19:52I like a word.
19:53I know he usually comes home early on a Friday.
19:55Yes.
19:56You OK?
19:57Yeah.
19:58What's wrong, Frankie?
19:59Frankie?
20:00What's up?
20:01Come here, Frankie.
20:02Come and say hi to Betsy.
20:07Frankie?
20:18Frankie's completely shut down.
20:20I just keep turning it over and over.
20:23Betsy's accident, the fact that I left them.
20:27I know Frankie couldn't have dropped her.
20:30He's too little to reach her when she's in the playpen.
20:36Ed's driving himself mad trying to figure it out.
20:44How are things going between you two?
20:47You know, he's blowing hot and cold.
20:51The other treats me like a stranger who's trying to reassure me
20:54that I've got nothing to worry about at the trial.
20:57I'm more worried about Frankie.
20:59Ed's taking him to the service.
21:01He won't talk to her.
21:02Or us.
21:03Do you think Frankie knows something, Mac?
21:04I don't know what else to think.
21:14Ed?
21:15Who is you?
21:16What are you doing here?
21:17This is the school gates.
21:18I'm surprised you don't even know where they are.
21:19Oh, come on.
21:20I'm on that bad.
21:21No, good daddy.
21:23Look, I know you've got the trial coming up and everything,
21:27but I just wanted to say I am pushing ahead with my record label.
21:32I can still deal with your help on that.
21:34Right.
21:35Yeah, yeah.
21:36I'm sorry.
21:37I'm sorry I dropped the ball.
21:39Things have been a bit brutal.
21:40Yeah, because I mean, you know, you've been getting out of the hospital and, you know,
21:46we've all just been hoping Betsy gets better.
21:50That's right.
21:53Look, get that paperwork tomorrow.
21:56I'll sign it.
22:03Thanks, mate.
22:05So how are you with the therapy and the medication?
22:19That's all helping, is it?
22:22It is.
22:23It's helping.
22:25It's the waiting that's killing me.
22:27I could have a whole year of this.
22:29Well, Andrew said he's going to push for an earlier trial date.
22:32So I'm just saying, it might not be too long.
22:35I know, but till what?
22:37You know, I could possibly spend years in prison, separated from my family.
22:42That's an absolute worst case scenario, Jess.
22:47I'm sorry.
22:48I'm so sorry it's come to this.
22:59Frankie will tell you what happened when he's ready.
23:01This is horrific.
23:18Remind me why we're doing this.
23:20Because we agreed that doing new things together would spark more joy.
23:26This isn't new.
23:27You've been doing it for years.
23:29Right.
23:30So we're leaving the curtains.
23:31We have the carpets.
23:32And the light switches.
23:33But...
23:34Taking the microwave, right?
23:35Yeah.
23:36Okay.
23:37That'll be the photographer.
23:49Would now be a good moment to tell you that I didn't go through the egg retrieval.
24:03Or any of the other appointments.
24:04I know I said that it wasn't successful, but I left before they could do it.
24:10I just couldn't face it, and I thought it was best to be honest.
24:11Charlotte, I'm happy with our family as it is.
24:12It'll just be George.
24:13He's a lovely boy.
24:14Got a lot to be thankful for.
24:15Got a lot to be thankful for.
24:16Yeah.
24:17I'm happy with our family as it is.
24:24It'll just be George.
24:25He's a lovely boy.
24:34Got a lot to be thankful for.
24:37as it'll just be George.
24:39He's a lovely boy.
24:41Got a lot to be thankful for.
24:50Come on.
24:51This doesn't work if it's only me.
24:52You have to do your bit as well.
24:53You're a good man, Andrew.
25:07Try not to worry about him.
25:25I just wish he'd speak to me.
25:30He'll come around.
25:32He will.
25:37I miss us.
25:50I miss everything.
25:55Hey, I need a nurse!
25:56Give me back!
25:57Back!
25:58Help!
25:59Give it back!
26:00Calm down.
26:02Calm down.
26:07Come here.
26:08Come around.
26:09Come around.
26:10Come around.
26:11Let's see.
26:24Come on.
26:24We won't stay long.
26:25No.
26:26A quick bite to eat.
26:27A couple of drinks for you.
26:29Be in our pajamas by 9.30.
26:33Hiya.
26:33What's she doing?
26:35I have no idea.
26:37You can do this.
26:41Hello.
26:47You okay?
26:55Mel invited me.
26:57Just thought it was about time that we cleared the air.
27:03Okay.
27:19I owe you an apology, Jess.
27:23I know I haven't been as supportive as I should have been, given everything you've gone through, but I do want you to know that I never meant to hurt you.
27:32So what were you doing with my husband then?
27:36Yeah, I admit that I allowed my affection for Ed to...
27:50You know what?
27:51Just stop with the bullshit lawyer talk.
27:54Okay, yeah, you're right.
27:56I'm not being entirely honest.
27:58Look, I've known Ed since I was the kind of person I think you would actually like.
28:10And I...
28:12I just needed to remember who that person was, you know?
28:16I just...
28:18I think I just wanted to believe that...
28:20Ed...
28:21still saw me that way.
28:23You know, I needed an escape.
28:25And I...
28:27thought for one very brief, misguided moment that maybe Ed was that escape.
28:33And I am sorry.
28:35Charlotte, you propositioned him while I was sitting in a police cell.
28:40Nothing happened.
28:41Nothing happened.
28:42I was at my lowest point.
28:43And you swooped right in.
28:44Nothing happened.
28:45Ed loves you.
28:46Maybe if you...
29:04Only you.
29:07Okay.
29:09Here you go.
29:11Could we have, um, another glass?
29:13No problem at all. Coming right out of here.
29:24So, after weeks of bullshit, more than usual, I can't believe that,
29:33Rob's finally admitted that we've run out of money.
29:36What does that mean?
29:38Um, he's decided to sell the house.
29:43And, um, since it's in his name, I don't have a choice.
29:49He made that very clear.
29:51That's awful.
29:52So, I'm living out of London, and, um,
29:57this will probably be the last time I'm sitting here looking at your gorgeous faces.
30:02No.
30:03Figure it out.
30:04Yeah.
30:13Hi.
30:14Hi.
30:15Hi.
30:16Hi.
30:17Hi.
30:18Hi.
30:19Hi.
30:20Hi.
30:21Hi.
30:22Hi.
30:23Hi.
30:24Hi.
30:25Hi.
30:26Hi.
30:27Hi.
30:28Hi.
30:29You all right?
30:30Come on, play with George now.
30:31Yes.
30:32Go.
30:33Hey, George, wait up.
30:34Social services have given us two hours.
30:36You ready?
30:37Come on, let's go.
30:38What are you going to do first?
30:39Oh, my goodness.
30:40Right, go on.
30:41Skedaddle.
30:42Go and find your friends.
30:43If you need me, I'll be at the tea stall, okay?
30:44Oh, my goodness.
30:45Oh, my goodness.
30:46Right, go on.
30:47Skedaddle.
30:48Go and find your friends.
30:49If you need me, I'll be at the tea stall, okay?
30:51Hello.
30:52Hi.
30:53Hi.
30:54Hi.
30:55Hi.
30:56Hi.
30:57Hi.
30:58Hi.
30:59Hi, Frankie.
31:00How are you doing?
31:01Hi.
31:02Hello, gorgeous.
31:03Are you well?
31:04She's looking good.
31:05We've been looking after her.
31:06Hey, lovely people.
31:07How's it going?
31:08Hi.
31:09Hi.
31:10Hi.
31:11Hi.
31:12Hi.
31:13Hi.
31:14Hi.
31:15Hi.
31:16Hi.
31:17Hi.
31:18Hi.
31:19Hi.
31:20Hi.
31:21Hi.
31:22Yeah, I couldn't believe we made it to you.
31:23Guys, hold off for the best stall at the fair.
31:24We're going to stop Mr. Phillips.
31:28Mr. Phillips is in.
31:29Don't worry.
31:30I'm here.
31:31I'm here.
31:32What do I need to do?
31:33Do I need it?
31:34Do I need that?
31:35Not much.
31:36Really nervous about the trial.
31:37But I am so glad that she's got you in her corner.
31:38Honestly, I don't know how I'd ever pay ya.
31:40You're very welcome.
31:42I accept cards.
31:43Or cash.
31:44Yeah.
31:45How about a drink?
31:46Right.
31:47Cheers.
31:48I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I am the best.
31:55Yeah, got that. I'll date better. You go have some fun. I love you.
32:09Right, quick show our faces and then we cut them on the fucking way of these things.
32:15Is moving away really going to make you feel any happier?
32:20Well, yeah, of course it is.
32:25Hey, fresh start. Change is going to do us all good.
32:30Come and work for me.
32:33Yeah, come on, why not? Okay, we'll get settled in, okay? I'll get going with the business.
32:38You don't have a business, Rob. Going to gigs and doing coke is not a business.
32:43Do you know what? It's a hobby. And that's fine when you're 18.
32:46Jesus!
32:48My hobby, okay, has paid for your life for the last decade. And Ed's investing now.
32:52You're a joke, Rob. Do you know, I have a good mind to go over there and tell our friends
32:56that you haven't signed a single artist for the last year. Not one!
32:59Don't be satisfied with the fucking research.
33:02Hey!
33:03What? You've done everything.
33:05Who's signed? Are you on?
33:06What do you mean, who's signed? Why?
33:07I really want to know who's signed you are.
33:09Don't you just sign them out?
33:10I just want to know who's signed you are.
33:12I tell you.
33:22Don't you ask me, though?
33:23Cranky!
33:25No.
33:26Cranky?
33:30Cranky?
33:31Cranky!
33:32Cranky!
33:33What happened?
33:34I don't know. He kind of freaked out.
33:39Cranky!
33:40Oh, God!
33:41Cranky!
33:42Cranky!
33:43Cranky!
33:45Cranky!
33:46Cranky!
33:47Cranky!
33:48Cranky!
33:49Cranky!
33:50Cranky!
33:51Cranky!
33:52No!
33:54Jess!
33:55Anything? Any sign?
33:56No.
33:57Just keep looking, keep looking.
33:59Franky!
34:00Franky!
34:01Can we check this sign?
34:03Let's check here again.
34:04Franky!
34:06Franky!
34:11Franky!
34:22Franky!
34:23Honey!
34:24Thank you, girl!
34:25Thank you!
34:26I've never gotten born yet, you've found her.
34:31Hey!
34:32Come here!
34:34Come here!
34:35What's happening?
34:36Come here!
34:37Come here!
34:38Come here!
34:39Come here!
34:40Come here!
34:41Come here!
34:42Hey!
34:43Come here!
34:44Come here!
34:45Come here!
34:46What's happening?
34:47Come here!
34:48Come here!
34:49Hey, come on, let's get out of here, okay?
34:54Let's get out of here.
35:00Frankie, hey.
35:02What's going on?
35:03You can tell me what's going on.
35:06Here, he's there.
35:08Hi, sweetie.
35:09Hey.
35:09What's up?
35:11Don't touch my sister!
35:15She's okay.
35:16She's safe, honey.
35:17It's all right, baby.
35:18You're sweet, honey.
35:18Honey, what's happening?
35:20Tell me, what's wrong?
35:22I think maybe, I think what Frankie might need is a bit of space.
35:25Should we just give everyone a chance?
35:27Yeah, yeah, thank you.
35:28No!
35:29It was him!
35:32What?
35:33Rob?
35:34What, honey, please?
35:36He was there.
35:42Honey, please, just tell me.
35:44Please, please.
35:46Please, just tell me what happened, okay?
35:48Just tell me.
35:49You need to hurt, Betsy.
35:55Oh, hiya, Frankie.
35:56Is he dad in?
35:56I'd like a word.
35:57I know he usually comes home early on a Friday.
36:00Betsy's a dream nappy.
36:01She needs a stranger.
36:03Oh, yeah, go on, Frankie.
36:03You're doing me.
36:04Okay, but I need to help lifting her up.
36:07Oh, Christ.
36:08All right.
36:09Come here.
36:10That's it.
36:11Oh, yeah.
36:13See, dad's not back yet.
36:15Where's your mum?
36:17Yeah, stick there.
36:17It's okay, love.
36:20It's all right.
36:21Frankie?
36:23Frankie, when's your dad getting back?
36:25Do you know?
36:26But she doesn't want to bring her out of here.
36:30Come on, Frankie.
36:32I mean, what's this?
36:33VIP.
36:36Let's go.
36:36VIP.
36:37VIP.
36:37VIP.
36:37Edward Karrasmoor.
37:05I'm going to stop crying now.
37:07What did you do, Rob?
37:22Is it true?
37:25Could you, Rob?
37:26No, I didn't.
37:27All right, she just fell off the island, okay, so...
37:29And you just left her?
37:30No, no, I picked her up.
37:31And you put her back at the playpen?
37:32Oh, no.
37:33Oh, no.
37:35Oh, no, this is really bad.
37:36Look what you did.
37:36I didn't.
37:40Yeah, you did.
37:41You're making all that noise.
37:42You're running upstairs and leaving her.
37:44Why did you do that?
37:45That's not what big brothers do, is it?
37:47No.
37:48Look, no, I'm sorry, Frank.
37:50This is completely your fault.
37:52All of it.
37:54Oh, I think she's okay.
37:56Yeah, look, she's...
37:57Yeah, she stopped crying.
38:00She stopped crying, yeah.
38:01She stopped crying.
38:02She stopped crying.
38:03You hurt her.
38:04You hurt her.
38:05You hurt her.
38:06You hurt her.
38:06You're meant to hold her.
38:07She rose off.
38:08You hurt her.
38:08She's not hurt.
38:09Frankie, she's not hurt.
38:12Okay, just listen to me.
38:13She's not hurt.
38:14And it was you who wanted to change her nappy, yeah?
38:16It was your idea to lift her out.
38:19Okay?
38:20That's why this happened, yeah?
38:21It was because of you.
38:22All right?
38:22Say it.
38:23Yes?
38:23Okay?
38:23Yes?
38:24Yeah.
38:25Good boy.
38:26Fucking killed her.
38:26Oh, no, no, no, no.
38:27I didn't know she was hurt, did I?
38:29Come on.
38:30Okay, look, I may be a bit of a pimp,
38:31but I'm not a monster.
38:33You mean clearly that?
38:34You got the fucking money I said I didn't matter.
38:35Yeah, what's the fucking money?
38:37Jesus Christ, Rob.
38:38Why didn't you call an ambulance?
38:39Yeah, you let's all believe that.
38:40Jess would hurt her own baby.
38:42Frankie.
38:42You know how vulnerable he is.
38:44Don't blame me for his behavioral problems.
38:46Fuck you.
38:47I didn't mean it.
38:49Daddy.
38:49Daddy.
38:49Hey, hey, hey, hey.
38:56It's okay.
38:57It's okay.
38:59You did good.
38:59That's it.
39:00Well done.
39:00Well done.
39:01I'm so proud of you.
39:02Okay.
39:03I'm okay.
39:05I'm fine.
39:05I'm fine.
39:08I should never have doubted you.
39:09I'm sorry.
39:10I'm so sorry.
39:13Hey.
39:13It's okay.
39:14Hey.
39:15Let's go.
39:16Let's go home.
39:17You did it.
39:18Oh.
39:18Oh.
39:18Let's do it.
39:21It's mine.
39:22Oh, fuck this.
39:24Don't, Rob.
39:26I can't believe I was going to leave everything behind for you.
39:29Oh, God.
39:29For a man who is nothing but a vile, self-serving bully.
39:37I think we need to call the police.
39:40I'll do it.
39:48Police.
39:48I've got that one there.
39:55I'll put Betsy on the kitchen counter, and then you ran upstairs to get a clean nappy.
40:03I'll put Betsy on the kitchen counter and then you ran upstairs to get a clean nappy.
40:17Is that right?
40:18Do you usually change Betsy's nappy like that?
40:24Mummy usually changes Betsy's nappy.
40:28Where do you want to put that?
40:32Good man.
40:38One more question.
40:41Why didn't Mummy tell us that Betsy got hurt when Rob was in the house?
40:49I didn't hurt her.
40:51No, you didn't hurt her. She's all right, luckily.
40:54And anyway, Frankie, it was your mum's fault.
40:59Really, because she shouldn't have left you alone.
41:01If anybody found out, they could put her in prison.
41:04I don't want her to go to prison.
41:06No, I don't want her to go to prison.
41:08When your mum comes back, you can't tell her that I was here.
41:11Because if you do, then I'm going to have to tell the police what you did.
41:15And that you were left alone, which I mean, I really don't want to do because then your mummy really will go to prison.
41:22Don't make me do that.
41:23Because if you do, then do you know what's going to happen?
41:28You're going to be left all on your own.
41:42Mum didn't know.
41:47I'm going to be right here.
41:48I'm going to be right here.
41:49I'm going to be right here.
41:50I'm going to be right here.
41:51I'm going to be right here.
41:52No, Ray.
41:53Hi.
41:54Hi, my mum.
41:55You're a beautiful boy.
41:56You're okay?
41:57Honey, I want you to know you did nothing for all.
41:58Okay?
41:59No.
42:00We love you till the moon and back.
42:10Time's in eternity.
42:13CPS have been notified.
42:14All charges will be dropped.
42:15It's over, Jess.
42:16You're free to go.
42:17No, not yet.
42:18No, I can't.
42:19No, I can't.
42:20No, I can't.
42:21No, I can't.
42:24No, I can't.
42:26No, I can't.
42:27No, I can't.
42:29Mel?
42:35They'll likely go after Rob for attempting to revert the course of justice,
42:39possibly wasting police time.
42:41They're serious charges.
42:43If convicted, you could be looking at two years' imprisonment.
42:46Well, you think you know someone,
42:48but even if you live in each other's pockets,
42:50you never really know them.
42:54I'm sorry.
42:59You obviously feel responsible on some level.
43:05No.
43:08No, I don't.
43:10I was Betsy's doctor.
43:14I stand by my decision.
43:17I did the right thing.
43:22I mean, what if I got it wrong?
43:24I was critical of Jess.
43:26Perhaps too much.
43:30I know that now.
43:34In hindsight, her biggest mistake was stepping out for a few minutes,
43:39leaving her kids in the house.
43:41I'm sorry.
43:42I'm sorry.
43:43I'm sorry.
43:44I won't leave you again.
43:45I won't leave you again.
43:46I won't leave you again.
43:47It isn't the worst crime in the world.
43:51It's difficult to explain an intrusive thought to someone.
43:52Every time Ed travels to work and the fast train comes,
43:54it's difficult to explain an intrusive thought to someone.
43:57Every time Ed travels to work and the fast train comes,
43:59I tell him to notice that split second.
44:00When you imagine George,
44:01I'm sorry.
44:02I'm sorry.
44:03I'm sorry.
44:04I'm sorry.
44:05I'm sorry.
44:06I'm sorry.
44:07I'm sorry.
44:08I'm sorry.
44:09I won't leave you again.
44:10I won't leave you again.
44:11I won't leave you again.
44:12It's difficult to explain an intrusive thought to someone.
44:17Every time Ed travels to work and the fast train comes,
44:21um,
44:22I tell him to notice that split second
44:25when you imagine jumping in front of the train
44:28and how I lived with that second over and over
44:32all these months
44:34and all the times I'd walk towards Betsy
44:37and, you know, see all the ways I could hurt her.
44:42But I'm getting better.
44:48Stronger.
44:50I know I'll get there.
44:52You will.
44:54You've made amazing progress.
44:56All of you have.
44:58So much so that I'm closing your case.
45:02So today marks the end of our involvement.
45:05You no longer need to be under our care.
45:12You're a good mum.
45:13I can see how much you love your kids.
45:18Every mother faces constant judgment.
45:29The way we parent.
45:32The choices we make.
45:35The routines we cling to.
45:37Everyone expects us to get it right all of the time.
45:47But we're human.
45:49We falter.
45:51We make mistakes.
45:53But sometimes, we get it so right.
46:00And in those moments, whatever you do, hold on tight.
46:06Because in the blink of an eye, it can all be taken away.
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