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00:00And shoot!
00:12Now hear this! Now hear this!
00:24Or I've Got A Secret!
00:34I've Got A Secret!
00:36Starring tonight while Gary Moore is on a week's vacation,
00:39the celebrated motion picture and television star,
00:42Mr. Ralph Bellamy!
00:54Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Good evening and welcome to I've Got A Secret.
00:59Gary Moore is at sea.
01:01Or perhaps I shouldn't put it just that way.
01:03Gary is having a vacation for a week and he is sailing.
01:07And he has asked me to sit in for him here tonight, which I'm very happy to do,
01:11especially with the knowledge that the armed forces are here to help me hold the fort.
01:17And now to adapt for television a phrase which originated in our armed forces,
01:25darn the torpedoes full speed ahead.
01:29Now I'd like to have you meet our panel who will be firing questions as soon as we see the whites of their eyes.
01:35First, the very beautifully sunburned, Mr. Bill Cullen.
01:42Miss Jane Meadows.
01:46Mr. Henry Morgan.
01:50And Miss Faye Emerson.
01:52This is our I've Got A Secret panel.
01:59This is the sixth birthday of Armed Forces Week.
02:04A time set aside so that we civilians may honor our armed forces
02:09who have spent the last 180 years honoring us.
02:12And now we're ready for our first contestant.
02:16The United States Marine Corps was founded November 10th, 1775.
02:25Its purpose was to serve to advantage on both land and sea.
02:29This it has done for 180 years.
02:33And never once has it fallen below the great promise of its motto,
02:37Semper Fidelis.
02:39Always faithful.
02:41Our first contestant is a corporal in the United States Marine Corps.
02:45You come in please.
02:46Panel, I can't give you the corporal's name because it might help you to guess his secret.
02:58So corporal, I'm going to ask you to whisper your secret to me and at the same time we'll reveal it to the audience at home.
03:04Very well panel, to help classify this secret I will tell you this is something that the corporal did and will begin with very much sunburned Mr. Bill Cullen.
03:23Thank you Ralph.
03:24Corporal, did you do this in the ordinary pursuit of your living, your livelihood, in other words in the Marine Corps?
03:35Yes, at the time.
03:36Uh, was it during, uh, the last war?
03:39Hmm, well, yes.
03:42Yes.
03:43By the last war, then I guess the Korean, uh, was it during the Korean conflict?
03:48No.
03:49The World War II?
03:50Yes.
03:51Uh, was it, uh, here in the continental limits of the United States?
03:55No, it wasn't.
03:56Was it, uh, in the Pacific Theater?
03:58Yes, it was.
03:59One of the islands?
04:00Yes.
04:01A Marshall Island?
04:02No.
04:03All right, well, Corporal, that's, uh, 20 down, and 60 to go, and Miss Jane Meadows, please.
04:10Corporal, from that applause, it was something heroic that you did.
04:15May I assume that?
04:16The Corporal may not want to answer that, but I will, yes.
04:19Um, getting the island, I trust, would help me.
04:24Would it have been Iwo Jima, or Guadalcanal, or, have I said it?
04:29Yes.
04:30You have said part of it, yes.
04:31Would it be Iwo Jima?
04:32Yes.
04:33Yes.
04:34Yes.
04:35I'll say the rest of it.
04:36Did it have anything to do with the, uh, flag?
04:37Yes, ma'am.
04:38With the raising of the flag?
04:39Yes, ma'am.
04:40Very good, Miss Meadows, this is Corporal Rene Gagnon, who was one of the boys who went
04:54up to the top of the hill and raised the flag.
04:57Uh, Corporal, I think we have a picture here.
04:59Will you lower that picture?
05:00Uh, taken by Joe Rosenthal.
05:03Probably one of the most famous pictures in the world, if not the most famous picture.
05:08I understand it's been photographed more times than any picture in history.
05:12Uh, printed that is.
05:13Can you find yourself there, Corporal?
05:15Yes, right there, Ralph.
05:16Right.
05:17Could you, uh, say a few words about the circumstances that led up to this great historic moment?
05:31The purpose of it and the date, perhaps, uh, a few words that we might not be too acquainted
05:36with?
05:37Uh, I guess everyone knows it was on February 23rd, 1945.
05:41The purpose behind it, not so much behind the picture, was taking the island, securing
05:45the island.
05:46We needed it as a former refueling base to Japan.
05:50And taking the top of the mountain was just one of the strategic part of it.
05:54And, uh, being able to plant that flag gave the men fighting throughout the rest of the island
05:58support and morale.
05:59That was a symbol, in other words, of its having been taken.
06:02That's right.
06:03It must have been a great boon to them, as it was to us.
06:05It was.
06:06Thank you very, very much indeed, Corporal Rene Gagnon.
06:08And come over here and receive your money, the money you won, and a carton of Winston.
06:16Thank you very much indeed.
06:24The great bravery of the United States Marines comes from the fantastic
06:28precision under which they are trained.
06:31To give you some idea of this precision, precision, here are, uh, Lieutenant Richard Daly and Sergeant
06:40Carl Osgood of the United States Marines.
06:43Carry out the drill.
06:46Head, hut!
06:51Fort, arm, halt!
06:56Fort, arm, halt!
07:00Fort, arm, halt!
07:03Inhale, halt!
10:40And we'll reveal it at the same time to our audience at home.
10:42I don't know how we're going to do this.
10:43I guess half from each.
10:52Wonderful.
10:53Panel, to help classify this secret, I'll tell you that it is something that these gentlemen did.
10:59And we'll begin with Miss Jane Meadows.
11:01And we'll begin with Miss Jane Meadows.
11:04Did you do this together, gentlemen?
11:08That's a hard question to answer, Jane.
11:10They didn't actually do it together.
11:12They did the same thing.
11:13They did it at different times.
11:14Different times.
11:14They did the same thing.
11:15And it has the same meaning.
11:17The same meaning.
11:18And important.
11:19Would it help me to know when you did do it?
11:21I don't think so.
11:23I doubt that it would.
11:24I doubt that it would.
11:26Would it help me to know where you did it?
11:28I don't think even that would be helpful.
11:33It might.
11:34It might.
11:34Well, let's see.
11:35Captain says it might.
11:36Were there other people around when you did this?
11:42In the air, I guess.
11:45Part of the time there were?
11:46You did do it in the air, didn't you?
11:48That's right.
11:49You both did it in the air, then.
11:52And it wouldn't help me to know where in the air you did it.
11:55Were there lots of other planes around?
11:57Up in the air.
11:58Way up in the air.
12:00Were there lots of other planes around when you did it?
12:02No.
12:04I see.
12:05Were you in the same type of aircraft when you did it?
12:09When we did it, we were in the same aircraft.
12:12Same type, yes, ma'am.
12:13Same type.
12:14Were you in the same airplane at a different time?
12:18By that, I mean, were you in an airplane that sometime later the captain was in?
12:23Or vice versa?
12:23Yes.
12:24Yes, that's true, yes.
12:26Very well.
12:27Well, you have won $20 a piece.
12:29That's 20 down and 60 to go.
12:31And Mr. Henry Morgan, please, sir.
12:34I don't even understand Jane's question.
12:38And the answer was yes, which made it much worse.
12:41Well, Ralph, I'll have...
12:42They were both in the same ship at different times and did the same thing, which had the
12:46same importance, if that'll help you.
12:48All right.
12:49Now, listen, I'm going to have to address my questions directly to you because...
12:52Very well.
12:53It's always made me very nervous talking to officers.
12:57Now, Frank, you know you never get over it?
12:59Civilian, sir?
13:04Would we know the plane?
13:07Is this a famous plane?
13:09No.
13:10Was it an experimental plane?
13:13I think you can answer that.
13:14No, it was not experimental.
13:16All right.
13:16Now, the time that elapsed between...
13:19Who was in it first?
13:20Is it Captain?
13:21Lieutenant first.
13:24Lieutenant.
13:26Um, you were in the plane first.
13:29Was there a long time between when you did whatever you did and...
13:33I think, Henry, um, um, you're a little confused here.
13:37A lot.
13:37A lot?
13:37The length of time between when one did it and the other did it has nothing to do with it.
13:41They each did the same thing on different times.
13:44All right.
13:44Now, hey, did you both get out of it?
13:46I mean, like, did you both have to...
13:47Here they are.
13:48Did you both have to parachute out of it?
13:50Very well.
13:50Well, that's, uh, 40 down.
13:53What did I say?
13:53And 40 to go.
13:54I don't think we're very hot on this one, are we?
13:59I'm trying to help you here as much as I can.
14:01Henry didn't get an answer to his, did he, about parachuting out?
14:07Was it a direct question?
14:09Yeah.
14:09Did they both parachute out of it?
14:11Yes, they did parachute.
14:12Oh, fine.
14:13Was this from some record height?
14:14Did this set some sort of record?
14:16Did you parachute it from higher than any other man has?
14:19That's right.
14:20Uh, did you, boy, you couldn't both have parachuted from the same height, exactly?
14:24Yes, they did.
14:25Really?
14:26Well, can we have to get how high it was?
14:28See if you can.
14:30Well, oh, dear.
14:31They fly so high these days.
14:32Uh...
14:33Uh, 60,000?
14:37Yeah, try it.
14:38That's 10 miles.
14:39Come on.
14:39Uh, 60,000, says Henry.
14:42Well...
14:4375.
14:43Oh, yeah.
14:45A little high.
14:47150.
14:4840.
14:4940,000.
14:50Uh, over 40.
14:52Oh, excuse me.
14:52Do you want to give the money away?
14:53Uh, no, no.
14:54Go ahead.
14:55What are you going to say?
14:55Over 40?
14:56That's right.
14:57Under 50?
14:58Yes.
14:58Under 45?
15:00No.
15:01Uh, 40...
15:02Uh, under 47?
15:03Yes.
15:0446.
15:0550.
15:06Under?
15:0646,527 feet.
15:10Two inches and a quarter.
15:13It's a little bit like counting the marbles in the jar.
15:21You're pretty close, though.
15:22It was actually...
15:23Now, think, being a woman...
15:2445,200 feet.
15:25Am I right?
15:26Wow.
15:2745,000.
15:27Being a woman...
15:28Eight and a half miles.
15:29There's one question that, uh, bothered me through all this.
15:32Why did you do this?
15:33Oh, this is actually a high-altitude bailout test.
15:39It's an attempt to prove an escape system is feasible for use by air crews.
15:43It's not the kind of thing you'd do normally except as a test.
15:46Under ejection?
15:47Yes, a downward ejection.
15:49And by doing that, we think we've demonstrated that the system can be used by our strategic air command people at any time.
15:55Uh, Captain, isn't it true that what you're actually doing is proving that you wouldn't get killed?
15:59That's it in a nutshell.
16:00Isn't it?
16:01Yeah, that proved it pretty well.
16:02Do you have special equipment, uh...
16:04A parachute, yes.
16:05Oh.
16:11Well, I think you did very well with that.
16:15Actually, we have some film here of a part of this experiment, uh, which I think we should have on now.
16:21And if you gentlemen care to say anything while the film is on, please feel free to do so, and I hope you will.
16:26Well, this is a B-47 bomber, which was used as a test bed.
16:29There, you just saw the man go out the nose.
16:31There's another view of the man.
16:33Uh, the man and sea leave the aircraft together, and after a two-second interval, the man will separate from the seat.
16:38All these tests were, as Captain Sperry mentioned, to, uh, prove the feasibility of this escape system for use by the air crews.
16:47It's part of a, uh, research and development program that the Air Force is carrying on.
16:52There, you saw the man separate from the seat, and shortly, the, uh, parachute will be deployed automatically.
16:59The whole system is completely automatic.
17:01Separation from the seat and deployment of the parachute.
17:06Anything you can add to that, Captain?
17:08I think you summed it up very well.
17:10Now he's sent into the water.
17:12If you watch closely, you'll see him jettison the canopy, which is one way of keeping from being drugged.
17:16It's kind of windy day.
17:17There he goes.
17:18Uh-uh.
17:18Uh-uh.
17:18Well, thank you very, very much indeed, Captain Sperry, Lieutenant Mielsen.
17:27Just a minute now.
17:27Here's your money.
17:28You got your money.
17:29Sure thing.
17:30Here's the Cockney Whistons for you.
17:32You too, Captain.
17:32Thank you very much indeed.
17:36Pacific.
17:39And now it's time for our next contestant.
17:42In September of 1775, the entire sea forces of the American colonies consisted of five schooners
17:53and a sloop.
17:54General George Washington outfitted these ships with men from his armies, and the United States
17:59Navy was born.
18:01Our next contestant is one of the great men of the United States Navy, a commander.
18:08Commander, will you come in, Commander, please?
18:17Commander, will you tell us your name and where you're from?
18:20My name is Howell Forgey from Pluckerman, New Jersey.
18:24All right.
18:25And now will you whisper your secret to me, and at the same time we'll reveal it to our
18:29audience at home.
18:30Very well, panel.
18:40To help classify this secret, I will tell you this is something that the commander said.
18:44And we'll begin with Miss Emerson.
18:47Oh.
18:49Commander, did you say this in a public sense?
18:51I mean, was it printed in newspapers?
18:54Yes.
18:57He's not old enough to have said that other thing.
18:59Sir, did you say it during the Second World War?
19:04I did.
19:05Was it in the middle of an engagement, a naval engagement?
19:08Was it in the...
19:09It was in a naval engagement.
19:11Was it in the Pacific, as opposed to the Atlantic?
19:14Was it in the Battle of the Coral Sea, or one of the great naval engagements?
19:19It was in one of the great naval engagements.
19:21Were you aboard ship, sir, when you said it?
19:23I was.
19:25And I would know it instantly if I heard it.
19:27I think so.
19:28Yes.
19:29Very well, that's 20 down and 60 to go.
19:33And Mr. Cullen, with his beautiful tan.
19:37Yeah, I have a...
19:40Did what you said.
19:42Now, don't ring a buzzer on me there, fellow.
19:45Did what you said, sir, become a popular song in about six weeks after you said it?
19:51Oh.
19:52Was it at Pearl Harbor?
19:53It was.
19:54Are you a chaplain?
19:55I am.
19:56I passed.
19:59There's one thing I never have the nerve to do.
20:02Henry gets nervous talking to officers, and I get nervous talking to chaplains.
20:05All right.
20:09Let's do it.
20:12Got it.
20:13We'll put it 40 down and 40 to go, and Miss Jane Meadows can say it.
20:17I should pass then, too.
20:20We all know what it is.
20:21Wait a minute.
20:23I don't.
20:26Henry.
20:28Let's go down one more and let Henry get the answer.
20:31Yes.
20:32Come on, Henry.
20:33We're, um...
20:33You're right.
20:36I think I better pass.
20:37You mean I can?
20:39You're insulting, Jane.
20:40She's telling me what it is.
20:43Oh, I guess, uh...
20:45It's all singing.
20:46It's unfair.
20:46Let's go back to Bill.
20:47All right.
20:48No, we were really, uh...
20:49I really feel...
20:50We're chanted in seeing you, really.
20:51We're very honest.
20:52We're sort of kidding around about it, but...
20:54Well, now, somebody's got to say it.
20:55Well, praise the Lord and...
20:57Uh, Commander Forgy, is there anything that you might say that we perhaps might not know
21:11about, uh, leading up to the circumstances of this great historic moment that, uh, might
21:16be interesting to us?
21:17Well, I was stationed, uh, aboard the USS New Orleans, and we were tied up at 1010 Dock
21:24in Pearl Harbor when the attack began.
21:27We were having a turbine lifted, and, uh, all of our electrical power was... wasn't on.
21:33And so when we went to lift the ammunition by the hoist, we had to form lines of men, form
21:39a bucket brigade.
21:41And we began to carry the ammunition up to the quarterdeck and to the guns.
21:45And I stood there and, uh, directed some of the boys down the port side and some down
21:51the starboard side.
21:52And as they were getting a little tired, I just happened to say, praise the Lord and
21:57pass the ammunition.
21:59That's all I was doing.
21:59Well, thank you very much, Commander.
22:00And, of course, that is how the now famous phrase, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
22:13originated.
22:14And, of course, as we all know, as has been said, Frank Lesser picked up the phrase and it
22:19became one of the most popular songs of the second world war.
23:05Ladies and gentlemen, that was the Fort Dix Soldiers Chorus.
23:24Thank you very much indeed.
23:27It's been a great pleasure and honor to have you with us.
23:30Here's the money you won, and please accept this carton of Winston.
23:35Thank you very much.
23:36I'd like to say that the great music you've heard this evening
23:39has been by the 69th Division Band under the leadership
23:43of Warrant Officer Alexander T. DeFranzo.
23:52I do hope that you've been impressed as much.
23:55Make a statement?
23:56Please do.
23:57There happens to be one that I think really should be made.
24:01Mr. Bellamy has talked a lot about the service heroes
24:05who I suppose he felt are even inadequate to.
24:09We all, the panel, are so thrilled with all that went on.
24:12But we have a hero with us.
24:14The fact was that when Gary first announced that he was taking a week off,
24:19Mr. Eric Severi was going to take his place,
24:22and Mr. Severi, unfortunately, became sort of ill.
24:26Mr. Bellamy took over Gary's place with two hours' notice.
24:31Another hero.
24:32Thank you, Henry, for those kind words
24:42and a speedy recovery to Eric Severi.
24:45And so, ladies and gentlemen,
24:46until next week when Gary Moore will be back with you,
24:49this is Ralph Bellamy saying goodnight to the panel,
24:52goodnight to you all,
24:53and goodnight, Gary Moore, wherever you are.
24:55Oh, how I hate to get up in the morning.
25:25Oh, how I hate to get up in the morning.
25:31This has been a Mark Goodson-Vilkhausen production.
25:37This is John Cannon speaking.
25:39Oh, how I hate to get up in the morning.
25:43Oh, how I hate to get up in the morning.
25:46Oh, how I hate to get up in the morning.
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