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New series Law & Order: Special Victims Unit season 26 EP 18 ENGLISH
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00:00In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous.
00:10In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are
00:14members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit.
00:18These are their stories.
00:30You ready?
00:35Gino's guy dropped off that square stock for us.
00:38Where do you want it?
00:38Over by the bending jig.
00:40You gonna be here late?
00:41Should have never said yes to this brownstone job.
00:44You want me to stay, boss?
00:45I can help you with all that stroll work.
00:46No, no, no, no.
00:47Go home to your girlfriend.
00:48You sure?
00:49Yeah.
00:49Get out of here before I change my mind.
00:51I'll see you tomorrow.
00:53You want me to lock up?
00:54Nah, leave it open.
00:55I need the air.
01:00I need the air.
01:29You in there?
01:30Dad, can we just go home?
01:32Hey, you want to get your last paycheck or what?
01:33You probably left for the night.
01:35Left?
01:35Light's still on.
01:37Oh.
01:39It's open.
01:40He's in there.
01:41Go on.
01:41By myself?
01:42Yeah.
01:43You're gonna own up to your mistakes, look your boss in the eye and apologize.
01:46And who knows?
01:47Maybe get your job back.
01:48I told you, I don't want my job back.
01:51Get in there.
01:51Go ahead.
01:52Eddie?
02:05Eddie?
02:05Eddie?
02:13Eddie?
02:14Eddie?
02:17Eddie?
02:19Danny?
02:39Dad, help!
02:42Sam?
02:45What's going on?
02:47Is he dead?
02:49Geez, hey, hey, all right, wait, wait, wait, wait outside, wait outside.
02:59What are we looking at?
03:01Vic is Eddie Upshaw, shop owner.
03:02Hit on the head, some kind of blunt instrument, on his way to the hospital.
03:05They think he'll pull through.
03:06Can we dogged him?
03:07Not yet.
03:08So the 911 caller mentioned a possible sexual assault?
03:11Upshaw was found stripped, pants down, sodomized with an object,
03:14and whoever did this carved something on his back.
03:16Carved his back? What did they write?
03:18Luncheon numbers.
03:19Who found him?
03:20Kid, over there. Sam Carson, 17. Works here. Came by with his father.
03:24A little late to be shown up for work, isn't it?
03:26Yeah, let's find out why.
03:27We'll ask him and I will search the shop.
03:29Okay, find the weapon he was hit with and what they used to carve up his back.
03:35My son Sam works as an apprentice here.
03:37At least I did.
03:38Did?
03:39I messed something up on the job. Eddie yelled at me, so I quit.
03:42And why did you come back?
03:43Get my last paycheck.
03:44And to man up for what he did.
03:47At night?
03:48Yeah, I told him to, uh, you know, make it right with Eddie as soon as he got out of school.
03:53I must have gotten sidetracked.
03:55Kid's got a new girlfriend.
03:56So what time were you with her until?
03:58Until my dad called me, mad that I hadn't gone to see Eddie yet.
04:01Yeah, I probably shouldn't have sent him in here alone.
04:04So Sam, you're the one that found Mr. Upshaw?
04:05Yeah. He was hanging from a pole.
04:09Hands were down.
04:11There's blood on his legs and back.
04:14So, uh, do you see anybody else in here?
04:17Anybody leave?
04:18No, I haven't seen nothing.
04:20Okay, thank you.
04:22If we have any more questions, we'll get in touch.
04:27He's gonna live, right?
04:29We don't know yet.
04:34Find anything?
04:35Places full of hammers, pipes.
04:37Nothing with blood on it except the angle grinder.
04:40Okay, I'm gonna bag everything.
04:41What do we know about this Upshaw guy?
04:43Divorced, three kids.
04:45We found his cell phone and his ex-wife is listed as his emergency contact.
04:49Okay, send that to Tarou.
04:51Check his last calls.
04:53A lot of potential weapons in here.
04:55Does Upshaw guy have any financial trouble?
04:58No record.
04:59He makes a little more than $100,000 a year.
05:01So, kind of an unremarkable guy.
05:03Not anymore.
05:08Yeah, but still, an older man getting sexually assaulted like this?
05:12It's gotta be rare.
05:14First time for everything.
05:15And now we got started.
05:24Based on him.
05:25We'll get you by the rain.
05:26That's a couple penalties.
05:27Yeah, beautiful.
05:27Goodo.
05:28Oh.
05:28We got you.
05:29Goodo.
05:30It's had a little more than $100,000-y basis.
05:32That's just a little more than $.
05:34Thevitic connection.
05:34T local hazard.
05:34So we got you by the rain.
05:35Come cool.
05:36Let's keep looking at this.
05:37And now the wind will pop up.
05:37You're getting this way.
05:38One more than...
05:38Yeah, but it's gonna be it.
05:40In school, no again time for you to go.
05:40That's gonna be what it looked like.
05:41Yeah, yeah.
06:12We did find an angle grinder with Eddie's blood in it, but the only prints were Eddie's.
06:19No sign of forced entry.
06:21Whoever it was, Eddie either let him in or they walked in through the open door.
06:25Okay, could he have been expecting the kid and his father?
06:28Maybe. Eddie and the kid, Sam, they had a falling out. The kid quit. He was coming back for his last paycheck.
06:33We really think a teenager clubbed a guy, sodomized him, and then carved a date into his back?
06:38Could be a combination.
06:39It meant something to someone. So, where was the kid and his father before they found him?
06:44Father was at work.
06:45Kid was with his girlfriend.
06:46So follow-up confirmed.
06:48I think Sam was involved. He wasn't even alive in 2001.
06:52From what we know, the guy was well-liked.
06:54No one is well-liked by everyone, right?
06:57Somebody was sending a message.
06:58So find out who in Eddie's life could have done this.
07:02A disgruntled employee and angry ex.
07:05This is clearly personal.
07:11Eddie, you gonna be okay?
07:13He's getting treated.
07:15So what do you know?
07:16Not much.
07:17Showed up for work this morning.
07:18Cops told me what happened.
07:19When's the last time you saw him?
07:21Yesterday, around 8.
07:22We were working.
07:23He told me to go home.
07:24So he was alone?
07:25With the music on.
07:26And he told me to leave the door open.
07:28How long you been working for him?
07:30Four, almost five years.
07:32Have you ever heard of any employee complaining about him?
07:34No.
07:35Eddie's a solid dude.
07:37Payroll's always on time.
07:38Checks never bounce.
07:39Okay, what about his personal life?
07:40He never talks about it.
07:41Have you ever noticed anyone sketchy coming around here?
07:44No.
07:45But besides vendors and clients,
07:46only people come around here are apprentices.
07:48Like the kid who found Eddie?
07:50Sam?
07:51Yeah.
07:52We heard that they had some beef.
07:53A kid cut through the hose on our MIG welder
07:56with a sawzall by accident.
07:58So why'd Sam quit?
07:59Sam doesn't always use the common sense that God gave him.
08:02But he's a good kid.
08:03Eager.
08:04Quick study.
08:05Has he ever talked to you about his new girlfriend?
08:08No.
08:10But I can see why he quit.
08:13Thanks.
08:13Yeah, Sam is my boyfriend.
08:19I mean, more like a friend, not like we do anything.
08:21Is my daughter in some kind of trouble?
08:23No, not at all.
08:24I just want to know if you saw Sam yesterday.
08:26Did you?
08:28Yes.
08:29Just for a little bit.
08:30After school.
08:31Did he happen to talk about his boss?
08:33Mr. Upshaw?
08:35Yeah.
08:36What'd he say?
08:36He'd tell me what he learned about welding.
08:39When Eddie was nice or when he'd get pissed at him.
08:41What's he pissed about?
08:43Normal boss stuff.
08:45Sam said he broke a tool or something.
08:47He says Eddie yelled at him.
08:48How long did you and Sam hang out yesterday?
08:51Only for a little while after school.
08:53Till what time?
08:56I was home by four.
08:58Why?
09:00So Sam Carson's alibi doesn't check out.
09:03He wasn't with his girl.
09:04All right.
09:04What about the father?
09:05Nate Carson's office confirmed he was at work until 8.
09:08They found Eddie at 9.
09:10So that rules the father out.
09:11Not Sam.
09:12Hey, heard back from Taru about Eddie's cell phone records.
09:15And?
09:15It's pretty dull stuff.
09:17No questionable photos.
09:18No off-color texts.
09:19Except, Upshaw called Sam ten times last night.
09:23Ten times?
09:24Pretty excessive.
09:25Did he ever call him back?
09:27Not once.
09:28But then he just shows up with his father?
09:29And lies?
09:31About being with his girlfriend?
09:32Does that sound right to you?
09:33Sounds like Sam's ducking him.
09:35Bring them in.
09:37Uh, why are we here?
09:38We, uh, we told you guys everything last night.
09:41Your son left some things out.
09:43Have a seat.
09:46You never mentioned when Mr. Upshaw called you last night.
09:50More than a few times.
09:52I must have had my phone on silent.
09:54Sam, it's time to come clean, all right?
09:56Just tell us what's really going on.
09:58Nothing.
09:59You're lying.
10:00My son is not a liar.
10:02Yeah?
10:02He lied about being with his girlfriend last night.
10:04You talked to Allie?
10:05Yeah, she told us you came over for a few minutes after school.
10:08Then she went home.
10:09You told me you were with her.
10:11Are you lying to us?
10:12Sam, where were you between school and going to Eddie's shop?
10:18Where were you, Sam?
10:20Hey, come on.
10:21He asked you a question.
10:22Okay.
10:23Okay.
10:24It's in the park.
10:25Which one?
10:26Tompkins Square.
10:27Doing what?
10:27Thinking.
10:28About.
10:28Just thinking.
10:30Is my son in some kind of trouble here?
10:32Mr. Carson, we are not accusing Sam of anything just yet.
10:36Well, we do need to clarify some details.
10:38Do you have any idea why Mr. Upshaw called you ten times last night?
10:45No.
10:46Why was he calling you nonstop?
10:48I don't know.
10:50You don't know or you don't want to tell us.
10:52Now's the time to come clean, Sam.
10:55Why?
10:55What did Mr. Upshaw say?
10:56He didn't say anything.
10:57He's still unconscious.
10:59You know what I think?
11:00I think Upshaw was surprised you even quit.
11:02Yep, and that's why you blew him off.
11:04I messed up.
11:05You're an apprentice.
11:06Making little mistakes is part of learning.
11:08And you know what isn't?
11:09Clubbing your boss in the head with some metal or something.
11:14And carving a date in his back with an angle grinder.
11:17June 15th, 2001.
11:19That mean anything to you, Sam?
11:21What?
11:22No.
11:23That's before you were born.
11:24Are you lying, Ross, right now?
11:28No.
11:28Are you sure?
11:29Yes.
11:31All right.
11:31Uh, do I need to call, Will?
11:34Yeah.
11:35If we have any more questions, we'll let you know.
11:37Let's go.
11:38Come on.
11:40Did you talk to the kid?
11:42He wasn't saying anything with his father in the room.
11:46Counselor.
11:46You getting anywhere with this Upshaw case?
11:48I just saw your two witnesses walk out of here.
11:50Well, there's definitely some kind of connection between Upshaw and that kid, Sam.
11:54You think he's good for it?
11:56I hope not.
11:56His timeline's sketchy.
11:58He lied about his alibi.
11:59Upshaw called him ten times last night.
12:01He didn't call him back.
12:02Is there any actual physical evidence that ties him to this?
12:05We recovered the weapon that was used to carve him up, but only Eddie's prints are on it.
12:11Well, until Upshaw wakes up, this is still an open case.
12:13What about that date?
12:14Didn't mean anything to Sam.
12:16Captain, Upshaw's out of surgery.
12:18He's conscious.
12:19Right.
12:19So find out if June 15th means anything to our victim.
12:31Dr. Klein?
12:32Yes.
12:33We heard about Eddie Upshaw.
12:35Sergeant Tucciola, this is Detective Bruno SVU.
12:38So what can you tell us?
12:40This is one of the more brutal assaults I've seen.
12:42Lucky he was unconscious for most of it.
12:44Any idea about the weapon?
12:46Skull fracture.
12:47Some kind of heavy, blunt instrument.
12:49Basic.
12:50Same with the sodomy.
12:52What about the numbers carved on his back?
12:54We found an angle grinder with his blood on it at the scene.
12:56It's likely the implement.
12:58Whoever did this wanted to make sure it caused a scar.
13:01Can he answer questions?
13:03He's on pain mats, but he can speak.
13:08How are you feeling, Mr. Upshaw?
13:12We have some questions about last night.
13:15Me too.
13:16My memory's not so good.
13:17It's normal.
13:19Give it time.
13:19Memories might come back.
13:21Maybe it's better if they don't.
13:24Did you get a look at your assailant?
13:27No.
13:28They hit me from behind.
13:30Maybe skin color?
13:31Hands?
13:33I'm going to show you something.
13:35It might be tough to take.
13:40Did that date mean anything to you?
13:43No, I...
13:45What is that, like 20 years ago or something?
13:50Is there anybody in your life you can think of who would do this to you?
13:53No.
13:55It feels like you're asking me to tell you if I did something to bring this on myself.
14:00No, no, we're not saying that.
14:01Because I've never done anything to anyone to justify this.
14:08Scarring me for life?
14:09Okay, okay.
14:10It's just...
14:11This is a very specific message to Sam.
14:14And statistically, a guy your age is the least likely to be sexually assaulted.
14:18We're just trying to find a motive.
14:20Sometimes there is no reason.
14:24I just need more payments.
14:26Give me some up, Sean.
14:27We're going to let you get some rest.
14:32If up, Sean knows who did this, he's not telling us.
14:35Or he's afraid to talk.
14:36Yeah, about who cut that date in his back.
14:39Well, she's got an ex-wife and she still has emergency contact.
14:43Well, someone should pay her a visit.
14:48June 15th, 2001?
14:51Sorry, it doesn't mean anything to me.
14:53Okay, well, are you still mad at your ex-husband about anything?
14:56When the cops called me about Eddie, I felt horrible.
14:58But you didn't go to the hospital.
14:59There wasn't anything I could do.
15:01Look, Eddie is bad at life.
15:03When did you divorce him?
15:05Over five years ago.
15:0625 years was enough.
15:08And how did he handle it when you asked him for divorce?
15:12Fine.
15:13Didn't put up a fight or anything.
15:14You have three kids.
15:16They don't have much of a relationship with him.
15:18Any particular reason why?
15:20They're older.
15:20They got their own lives.
15:21Okay, well, is there anyone else that you can think of in his life who might want to hurt him?
15:25This city is full of wingnuts.
15:27Is it really that crazy to think this was random?
15:30Random attacks don't usually involve someone being scarred with a specific date, Mrs. Upshaw.
15:35I'm sorry.
15:37I wish I could be my help.
15:41So, our Vic has no idea who would carve that date into his back.
15:45Neither did his ex-wife.
15:46They both claim there's no one in his life that would hurt Eddie.
15:49Any red flags on social media?
15:51Not that we could find.
15:52Online dating?
15:53He doesn't really seem to have a social media life at all.
15:56He has a page for the shop, but he hasn't updated it in three years.
15:59Other than that, no digital footprint.
16:01So, we have a 50-year-old guy who was sexually assaulted, then scarred with a date.
16:06I mean, we all know that this wasn't random, so keep digging into Upshaw's past.
16:12Sam Carson just texted.
16:14He wants to meet me in the park.
16:16Alone?
16:16Well, I would feel more comfortable if he had backup.
16:20This kid just needs someone to talk to.
16:22I go alone, he's more likely to be forthcoming.
16:24Give me a post-it.
16:37Hey, Sam.
16:38Hey.
16:39Hey.
16:39I'm in trouble.
16:47What kind of trouble?
16:49I'm not sure.
16:50You know, when things get too big, I get afraid.
17:01Like if I open my mouth and fall off some kind of cliff.
17:08But that's where you are.
17:09I promise you, whatever it is, I got you.
17:17I'm afraid it's my fault.
17:24I've been working Freddy since I was 15.
17:27He's been good to me.
17:30Good how?
17:32Teaching me stuff in the shop.
17:34Making sure I'm on my game.
17:37He started to give me rides home.
17:39Did something happen?
17:43At first, we would talk about personal stuff.
17:47And he started asking me questions about girls.
17:50What I do with them.
17:52What I do with myself.
17:54When I'm alone.
17:58He told me to pull my pants down.
18:03I let him do it.
18:04I just, I just froze.
18:06It's like I wasn't even there.
18:08I just let him do it.
18:09Sam, listen to me.
18:12This happens to a lot of people.
18:13This is not on you.
18:14To girls maybe, but not to guys.
18:16That doesn't work like that.
18:17I kept going back to the shop.
18:20I tried to avoid Eddie, but most of the times it was just him and me.
18:25Eddie set it up that way.
18:27My dad says people who get hurt put themselves in that position.
18:31I mean, you've seen him and think it's my fault.
18:34You're not the adult here.
18:36Eddie is.
18:36And what he did is called grooming.
18:40He gained your trust and then he manipulated it.
18:44Are you going to tell my dad?
18:47No, I won't have to.
18:49You will.
18:50I don't think I can.
18:55If I had a kid and somebody hurt him, I want to know.
19:04So give your dad a chance to be your dad.
19:09And I'm going to help you through it, okay?
19:13Okay.
19:13But I have to ask you a question now.
19:22What happened to Eddie?
19:25Did you have anything to do with it?
19:41Hey, Brenna.
19:42Sorry, Isley.
19:43No, it's okay.
19:44I was expecting your call.
19:46You talked to Sam?
19:47Yeah, I figured it'd just be easier to tell you in person.
19:50What?
19:51Sam didn't do this, but there's a reason he might have wanted to.
19:56Come in.
20:04Hey, you got a break in the Upshark case?
20:06Well, yes and no.
20:08Oh, good.
20:09Well, let's start with the yes.
20:10How about that?
20:10Okay, well, Sam Carson admitted to Bruno that Eddie abused him.
20:15All right, well, that's a motive for the assault on Eddie.
20:17But Sam denies that he attacked Eddie.
20:20Did you believe this kid?
20:21I mean, didn't he lie about his assault?
20:22He did at first, but then he said that he was in Tonkin Square Park, and the pole cam footage confirms.
20:27So Sam is no longer a suspect.
20:29Now, let's get to the no in this scenario.
20:32Well, the no is we have no viable suspects, but odds are that Sam is not Eddie's first victim.
20:39Have you found any other complaining witnesses?
20:41We talked to former employees, apprentices.
20:44So far, nothing.
20:45Eddie had no record for the last 20 years.
20:47I'm going back into the online booking system.
20:50Arrests were logged by hand, so it's going to take some time.
20:52Okay, so keep searching.
20:53In the meantime, Carisi and Bruno, my office.
20:55I realize that Eddie Upshaw is a victim in a hospital bed, but...
21:01He's also a perp.
21:03So, Carisi, can we make a case against him?
21:06At this kid, Sam is willing to testify, yeah.
21:08There's one hurdle.
21:09Sam doesn't want to tell his father, let alone testify.
21:11Yes, but at the same time, Sam is a minor, so at some point, we are going to have to inform his parents.
21:17I'll let Sam know.
21:21Mr. and Mrs. Carson, thank you so much for coming in.
21:24Sam said something about Eddie Upshaw.
21:26Ah, yeah.
21:27Please, have a seat.
21:31So...
21:32Um...
21:33These conversations are...
21:36are difficult to have.
21:39I know Sam lied to you,
21:41but he's just a scared kid.
21:43Your son isn't in any kind of trouble.
21:46Your son is a victim.
21:50What?
21:52I don't understand.
21:54Sam, what's going on?
22:00Go ahead.
22:02You can tell him.
22:04Exactly what we talked about.
22:06I don't want you to be mad.
22:09Oh, I'm not mad.
22:13I lied to you.
22:16But while I quit the shot...
22:17It's okay, Sam.
22:22You're safe.
22:24Right?
22:24You can tell him.
22:29I quit.
22:31Because Mr. Upshaw was touching me.
22:36He was making me touch him.
22:38What?
22:39Wait a minute.
22:41How's that possible?
22:44Look, I know that this is a lot to process.
22:50But Sam disclosed to Detective Bruno...
22:53Your son is the victim of sexual abuse.
22:56Oh, my God.
23:01What would you tell us?
23:02I didn't want you to be mad.
23:04Mad?
23:04Be mad at you, son.
23:06It's going to be okay.
23:08We're going to figure this out, okay?
23:10It might benefit you and your family to maybe see a counselor.
23:16I have some names that I'm happy to connect you with.
23:18Is that why Upshaw was attacked like that?
23:21We believe it's possible he has other victims.
23:25Well, what happens now?
23:26We still want to prosecute for what he did to Sam.
23:30Does that mean Sam will have to testify?
23:32If our ADA can make a deal, no.
23:34But if this goes to trial, then yes.
23:38I don't know if I can do that.
23:40Sam, Upshaw abused you.
23:43He needs to go to prison.
23:47I just want to call him.
23:48I think that's a good idea.
23:51If you need anything, if you have any questions, please.
23:55We're here.
23:57I'll walk you up.
24:04For helping my son.
24:18You all right, Liv?
24:22I've been better.
24:24We're on the right track now.
24:26Why, we got something?
24:27Curry found an old arrest record on Eddie Upshaw from 2002.
24:31Sexual abuse in the first.
24:33Did you get a name of the victim?
24:35She was a minor, so it's Jane Doe.
24:37Did it go to trial?
24:38If it did, it was an acquittal.
24:39Case is sealed.
24:41It's probably in some warehouse somewhere out in Queens.
24:44Well, I will ask Carisi to have a judge sign off on access to the file.
24:49In the meantime, have Curry and Velasco head out to the warehouse.
24:5295 to 05 are in here.
25:02Criminal on this side, civil on the other.
25:05The boxes should be labeled clearly enough, so good luck.
25:14Ready?
25:16Let's get this son of a bitch.
25:17Okay, so we found something.
25:29Upshaw's sex abuse case went to trial in 2004.
25:32And?
25:32He was acquitted.
25:34Okay, what about her Jane Doe victim?
25:36The name is redacted.
25:37She was 11 years old during the trial.
25:39She was eight when the abuse began.
25:40Yeah, in 2001.
25:44Jury didn't believe her.
25:45Call the arresting officer, call the ADA, get me a name.
25:51There might be a shortcut.
25:53The ex-wife, she was still married to him during the trial.
25:56And when we interviewed her, she said that that date didn't mean anything to her.
25:59Okay, so she's either in utter denial or she's lying to protect him.
26:02Find out which one.
26:03Come on, what is this?
26:17Here's a couple more questions about your ex-husband.
26:19I told you everything already.
26:20I doubt that.
26:21So, my first question is, what's making this nice lady so squirrely that she decides to lie to the cops?
26:29That's a good question.
26:31Thanks.
26:31Thanks.
26:33I got nothing more to say about Eddie.
26:44What?
26:44Your ex-husband was a defendant in a sexual abuse case early on in your marriage.
26:49You don't think that's something we needed to know?
26:53That girl was lying.
26:55How do you know?
26:56She was friends with my daughter.
26:58She had mental problems.
26:59She was eight years old.
27:00Her father was a drinker.
27:01Her mother was out of her mind.
27:03She was just looking for attention.
27:05Is that what you tell yourself?
27:07So you could stay married to him for 25 years or three kids in the house?
27:10Don't you judge me.
27:11I had no help.
27:13So what?
27:14You stayed with him for a paycheck?
27:17I mean, have you asked yourself why your kids want nothing to do with him?
27:20He wouldn't have the stones to mess where he eats.
27:23He knew my family would kill him.
27:27What do you think your family would feel if they know you're covering for him?
27:31We need the name of the victim and where we can find her.
27:49Angela Jones has been in prison for the past five years.
27:58Turns out Upshaw's daughter stayed in touch with her.
28:00What were the charges?
28:01Drug possession.
28:02Recently paroled.
28:03How recently?
28:04A week ago.
28:05Three days before Upshaw was attacked.
28:07Well, that doesn't mean that she's good for it.
28:09No, but as much as we may not like it, it does make her a suspect.
28:12So what was Angela's history since Upshaw was acquitted of her abuse?
28:15She went downhill.
28:16We had 13, drugs and alcohol problems, truancy.
28:20She barely graduated high school.
28:21Psych wards, in and out of juvie.
28:23Rikers, multiple arrests in her 20s, court mandated rehab.
28:27So nothing worked?
28:28No.
28:29Okay, do we have a last known for Angela?
28:32We spoke with her parole officer.
28:34Okay, well, go talk to her.
28:36Copy.
28:38And what is Upshaw's condition?
28:41He stayed last.
28:42Still in the hospital.
28:42All right, so go to the hospital, show him a six-pack, and see if he can make an ID.
28:48He was pretty cagey the first time we talked to him, Liv.
28:51Says he never saw the perp's face.
28:53If his attacker's a former abuse victim, that might explain why.
28:56Hey, I know this is a tough one for you, Liv.
29:05Did you read the transcript of the court case?
29:08I did.
29:09She was eight years old when Upshaw started abusing her, and that jury just let him go free.
29:15She waited over a year to report, and then defense played up her inconsistencies and the lapses.
29:22This was over 20 years ago.
29:24Just makes me crazy, and I know that they didn't have the understanding of trauma that we do now,
29:29about how it affects memory and how, you know, it can make time just collapse.
29:33And if she did assault Eddie Upshaw, it's a horrific crime.
29:38But if her sexual assault case against Eddie was on trial now, he'd be in prison.
29:45Oh, you gotta be kidding me.
29:47This wasn't a woman.
29:48We've got a possible suspect.
29:50Why don't you take a closer look?
29:54Unless there's a reason you don't want us to close this case.
29:58What's that supposed to mean?
30:00You said you didn't do anything to anyone that deserved to be assaulted like this.
30:04I haven't.
30:04And you didn't think we'd find out about Angela Jones?
30:08That girl was lying.
30:11I knew it, the jury knew it, and I walked out of there.
30:15What about Sam Carson?
30:16Whatever Sam's saying, he's lying too.
30:18Maybe you got away with what you did 20 years ago.
30:22But not today.
30:25I'm not talking to you guys anymore.
30:35You okay, man?
30:36If I ever had a kid and somebody did that, my face would be the last thing they ever see.
30:40I feel you.
30:42I'm a cop.
30:43You shouldn't say that.
30:44Yeah, Bruno, but you're human first.
30:48I really think Angela did this.
30:50Well, the police report listed June 15th, 2001 as the first time Angela was abused by Upshaw.
30:55I can't believe she's been carrying this date with her ever since.
30:57Well, I guess she wants him to carry it now.
31:09Fourth floor.
31:10Copy.
31:10This one?
31:29Yeah.
31:31NYPD!
31:33Angela?
31:33Angela?
31:36Fire escape.
31:37I'll take the back.
31:49Okay.
31:49Okay.
31:49Okay.
31:49Hey, hey, hey, here we go.
31:59Hey, hey, hey, here we go.
32:13NYPD, stop!
32:31Stop moving!
32:32Screw you!
32:34Come on.
32:35Get up!
32:36Get off me!
32:37Get your goddamn hands off me!
32:39SBU Portable, send a unit to transport a prisoner.
32:42White planes and bonds by the L.
32:45Come on, let's go.
32:46Walk.
32:50You had probable cause to arrest?
32:52She ran, violating parole.
32:53She almost got away except for the captain.
32:55Did she say anything?
32:56Get your goddamn hands off me?
32:58You Mirandized her?
32:59Yeah.
32:59She refused to lawyer.
33:00She won't talk to anybody.
33:01And you had to cover?
33:03Believe me, I didn't want to, but she tried to bite the uni.
33:05Well, we all know that look, right?
33:09She obviously feels she has nothing to lose.
33:12But I can't help her if she won't talk to us.
33:15Yeah.
33:16Why don't we start by taking off those cuffs?
33:22Angela, I'm Captain Benson, and this is ADA Carisi.
33:27Now, I know that it may not seem like it, but we actually are trying to help you.
33:31Now, my officers told me that they tried to talk to you, but it didn't seem like you were so cooperative.
33:39So, I'd like to take those cuffs off.
33:42I need you to promise me that we can just have a calm conversation.
33:45Would that be okay?
33:49Awesome.
33:59I think we got it from here.
34:06Why am I here?
34:07You're here because we know about your trial.
34:11About the abuse case with Eddie Upshaw.
34:17We read the transcripts and all your police interviews.
34:22And, um, we understand that you were eight years old when you met Eddie.
34:28Is that when the abuse started?
34:36I was best friends with his daughter, Krista.
34:40She believed me, but nobody else did.
34:45Not the cops at first, and not Eddie's wife.
34:48Not that jury.
34:49But there's nothing anyone can do about that now.
34:54I believe you, Angela.
34:59We're not here to talk about my trial.
35:04No, we're here to talk about Eddie Upshaw.
35:06So, can you tell me where you were three nights ago?
35:12I don't remember.
35:15Well, Eddie was injured.
35:18He was hit over the head.
35:19And his back was carved.
35:27How is he?
35:28He's permanently scarred.
35:30But he's alive?
35:33I'll tell you this.
35:34He'll, uh...
35:36He'll never forget that date.
35:39Makes two of us.
35:41Did you do that?
35:42Angela, I only did what someone should have done 20 years ago.
35:50Angela, are you admitting guilt?
35:54Oh, I don't feel guilt at all.
35:58Nah, I just looked him up.
36:01Just after all these years.
36:03Yeah.
36:04My PO warned me about doing that.
36:06He said if you go looking for pain, you're always gonna find it.
36:09And what did you find?
36:11Just some half-assed page of his shop on social media.
36:15He's just...
36:16living life.
36:18An ordinary, normal guy.
36:22Unremarkable.
36:24Yeah.
36:26For exactly that reason.
36:29After all these years,
36:32I just...
36:34I saw that and I'd...
36:37I'd had enough.
36:38You threw your life away.
36:40You do things like this,
36:41and it lets guys like that win.
36:43He already won, Captain.
36:47I remember him every day,
36:49and even on my best ones.
36:52He didn't scar me once.
36:53He scarred me every day since.
36:58So...
37:00what happens now?
37:02Now I go back to prison?
37:04Because trust me,
37:08it was worth it.
37:16We're gonna get you a lawyer,
37:18and we're gonna figure this out.
37:20Now talk to the DA.
37:21There she is.
37:30We heard some things about you, Captain.
37:32Like what?
37:34Like you should quit your day job
37:36and join the NFL.
37:37Fast on your feet.
37:38Okay, what happened with Angela?
37:40She confessed.
37:41Benson and Carice are with her
37:42at the DA's office right now.
37:44Sam, everything all right?
37:51Can we talk?
37:52Of course.
37:58How have you been, Sam?
38:00Okay.
38:02Having a little trouble sleeping.
38:03That's understandable.
38:10But I talked to my mom and dad.
38:13We made an appointment with the therapist
38:14Captain Benson recommended.
38:16Good.
38:19I want to face things, you know?
38:22Deal with this for real.
38:25Makes sense.
38:26My dad always talks about
38:27how a real man faces life.
38:30He doesn't run away or hide or lie.
38:34And I do that a lot.
38:38My dad told me you arrested
38:39the woman who did that to Eddie.
38:41We did.
38:43Am I gonna end up like that?
38:46Like what?
38:47Wanting to hurt other people
38:48because of what happened to me.
38:54The therapist you're going to,
38:57you're gonna work together
38:58and make sure that doesn't happen.
39:03Hi.
39:06Come on in.
39:08How are you doing, Angela?
39:10I'm okay.
39:12We're here to discuss the plea deal.
39:14Yeah.
39:14Take a seat, please.
39:15So, given Angela's history
39:18with Eddie Upshaw,
39:20the DA has agreed to reduce the charges.
39:22Felony assault, too.
39:23What does that mean?
39:24You'd stay on parole,
39:26but you'd have to
39:27complete a psych program.
39:29And if you agree
39:29and you complete the program,
39:31then the court will allow you
39:31to withdraw your plea
39:32for the felony assault.
39:34We can discuss other charges.
39:36Or a dismissal.
39:37Your client committed a serious crime.
39:39Sodomy, disfigurement.
39:40This is the best you're gonna get.
39:42You might not have to go to prison.
39:44You just have to be on parole
39:46for a long time.
39:48That's a good deal.
39:54We'll take the plea.
39:55You know, Angela,
39:59I hate what you did.
40:02But I hate what was done to you.
40:05Even more.
40:17You've seen this before.
40:18Yeah.
40:18Cycle of abuse.
40:20The question is,
40:21will we ever be able to stop it?
40:23Isn't that the real answer?
40:25No.
40:25Well,
40:26it's not gonna stop us from trying.
40:28No.
40:54It's not gonna stop us from trying.
40:58It's not gonna stop us.
41:00It's a real ayish.
41:01No.
41:02I'm serious.
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