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In 2018, 34-year-old Shanann Watts and her two young daughters disappear in Colorado. With the heartbreaking details emerging, the family's story made headlines around the world.
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00:00a tight-knit community a schoolgirl fails to show up for her Saturday job
00:14I hadn't spoke to her through the day and I started to phone my mum more and I was like
00:19that's weird has she just gone off with friends she's going to be somewhere in Glasgow at a party
00:26it's not unusual for teenagers to be missing or has something more sinister happened
00:34I think you know somebody and you don't you know
00:39how the hell did that happen on your own doorstep right on your own doorstep
00:45I remember thinking when he was going to start searching ditches for a body
00:5615-year-old Paige Doherty had grown up in Whitecrook on the bank of the river Clyde
01:09she was a popular and fun-loving teenager
01:12I've been a new page for our selfies like I've been a new page for parties and selfies and always been on social media like
01:22I've known Paige since I've been seven years old we went and played in the playground in there and just been best pals since then
01:32always on our phones always talking about boys and always putting fake tan on
01:39Paige lived with her mum Pamela stepdad Andrew and her siblings
01:44She was a really helpful bubbly wee girl she would do anything for anybody she was
01:49really well-mannered and em I suppose she was generous she would give Andy a last penny and
01:58she just was a really well-rounded wee girl she was obviously had her moments her tantrums and
02:04things with us as a teenager she was a typical teenager loads of dreams loads of ambitions 90% of
02:11them were crazy but that was just her but she was loveable likeable she just and I'm Adam if there
02:19was a camera around Paige was about so she was pouting constantly adorable in every way
02:28however on Saturday the 19th of March 2016 everything in the community was about to change
02:34it was the day Paige Doherty went missing Paige had spent Friday night staying at her best friend
02:43Lauren's house they were both up early to go to their respective Saturday jobs
02:50we both went down the stair I was getting my shoes on and Paige was just in the kitchen because my mum
02:56had made her the packed lunch she was like right okay I'll see you later on that and then this is when
03:02she gave me the cuddle right here right catch you or something like that and then I went like right
03:06I'll see you later on then that was up
03:13the girls normally remained in contact via social media during the day
03:17so when Lauren hadn't heard from Paige she was worried something was wrong
03:23I was like that's weird I've definitely I've not heard from her all day and I started to phone my mum
03:29more and I was like that's weird and I had text her mum and asked Pamela if she had spoke to her
03:35and she was like no she's just at her work in that and she's not doing until whatever time
03:40Paige's mum Pamela wasn't initially concerned by her daughter's lack of contact
03:44she's no I've no heard for her I said but she'll still be working now I said she doesn't finish
03:49till about half past six I said so I just get a wee bit of time she says but I've no heard for her
03:53all day and I said I wouldn't worry I said she's she's obviously forgot her charger or something
03:57she went oh she might have left her charger in mind or um I said that's fine
04:02by 6pm Paige had failed to return home after her Saturday job but stepdad Andrew assumed there was
04:12an innocent explanation I think she's going to be somewhere around Glasgow at a party and she's just
04:21she's just done it off her she just kind of went I'm going and that's it I already had it all planned
04:25that she was grounded for that's not a claim and she had missed took after and this was happening
04:35but having heard nothing from her all day it was Paige's friends who felt something was wrong
04:40and turned to social media to try to track her down
04:44I remember messaging a few people that I knew what Paige knew and hung about with and they were like no
04:49I'm not here sure and I just remember going on Snapchat and checking there's nothing there
04:53I had messaged her saying Paige where are you get home and it was read but never answered
05:00that that was so out of character
05:05as the evening wore on and with no contact from Paige at all Pamela made a shocking discovery
05:14Paige had never made it to her shift at the hairdressers
05:17that was nearly 12 o'clock I think before we realized you know where is she and I think that's
05:23when we all started to get worried and think like let's try and get a hold of her phoned her
05:28whatsapp facebook and nothing
05:33none of the messages were being delivered phone was straight to voicemail so nothing we couldn't get a hold
05:38of her at all in any way and that's when we thought right something's not right here I think towards the end of the night
05:46I phoned the police as soon as I knew she hadn't turned up to work because I knew that's that's a character
05:52with nothing to indicate a crime had taken place police logged the call as a missing persons case
06:04there was 84 missing people per day in police scott you know and all that roughly a third of that will be under 16s
06:12so 30 a day if you say on average you know that's a huge amount
06:16there wasn't anything which struck us has been particularly unusual in relation to this missing
06:22person investigation it's not unusual for teenagers to be missing and out of contact with their family
06:29as they maybe go to friends houses and they're maybe not quite so aware of the concern that
06:34their parents will have when they're out of touch it's very unusual for something to untoward to happen to them
06:40but as the day drew to an end those closest to page were asking how could a 15 year old girl
06:49disappear without a trace on the way to her saturday job by midnight i had said to you page is hurt
06:56she would never let it get to midnight without telling us where she was if she was able to
07:01everybody kept saying no you're you're overreacting i kept saying no i'm not something's happened
07:10there's an appeal from the family of a teenager from clyde bank page doherty
07:19the 15 year old hasn't been seen since leaving for her saturday job at a hairdresser's
07:24in clydebank scotland the close-knit community of white crook had woken up to the news that much
07:29loved 15 year old page doherty had been missing for 24 hours
07:33come forward even if you think it's something stupid just say it just it could help
07:48concerns for her safety were growing and the community rallied together in the hope of finding
07:53page before it was too late just driving around looking you were driving so you were slowing down
07:58and if the dark hair you were kind of tooting the horn for them to turn around if they were facing the
08:02opposite direction i was hoping that i would put i would see her with one of her friends laughing
08:07and joking as if nothing was wrong you were hoping that every teenager that you passed that had the
08:12dark hair you would think right that's her we were all hoping she was just being a typical teenager
08:18it felt helpless just kept doing this looking to see if we had saw any of our stuff or anything like
08:28that because we didn't really know what to look for at this time we were sharing posts everywhere
08:36um going out putting posters out asking people bus drivers like train drivers everybody
08:44i've seen everybody and clive bank come together and putting up statuses postals making sure like
08:53it was out there people were knowing what page was missing and she's to be found
09:02as the day wore on fear spread through the neighborhood
09:05as the hours ticked by the town was becoming more and more nervous i was like uh what where is
09:14she like why is she not told pamela where she is or whatever why is she not coming from work
09:19like that because page would always come home the longer it was like the more the more worried i
09:25got i remember saying to them when he was going to start searching ditches for a body
09:29and the police saying we've no reason to believe that your daughter's harmed he said to me nine
09:35times out of ten they come home and i can remember saying well one time out of ten
09:39dishes no coming home you need to look for a body
09:44with the neighborhood search revealing nothing the police investigation intensified the thing that
09:50was unusual for us that we've got a 15 year old girl who is normally in regular contact with her
09:55friends and family and at that point the concerns for the safety began to increase
10:02they search the home address to make sure that the page wasn't within the home address and also
10:08anything which might give us cause for concern in relation to their disappearance
10:18police began house-to-house inquiries to retrace pages last movements from the morning she went
10:23missing sunday morning officers attended at several local businesses and they received information
10:29from the owner of a news agents that page had been seen entering a takeaway shop at around 20 past 8
10:37the saturday morning the owner of those premises confirmed that she'd attended in the shop had
10:43purchased a hot snack and thereafter left to get a bus to work the owner of the news agent told police he
10:52had spoken to page on the saturday morning about about quarter past eight and i seen page walking
10:57by that path when i shouted all right paid and she shouted back i'm all right ash and i said i'll see you
11:01later on and that was the last i seen her and she went into the roll shop she always walked past this way
11:09deli owner john leatham told police page was a regular customer and had dropped by to pick up breakfast
11:14that saturday morning as normal we were traveling to school together we used to just go in and get a roll
11:20in the morning um and get the bus to school she had come into the deli that morning and she had
11:28water rolling sausage and she told him she was going to her work now able to pinpoint page at the heart
11:34of the community saturday morning police turned their attention to the bus route which she would have taken
11:38to work we interviewed bus drivers you know so you got cctv or whatever so everyone that traveled on the
11:45bus that morning they were all interviewed so you know we went to extreme lengths to follow up the route
11:55but as sunday turned into monday there were no positive sightings and people were getting desperate
12:02we knew that pretty much everyone who had so much as met paige had been questioned the community
12:13policing team are very very proactive just walking about in a total of days so cereal in the same in the
12:25real life you sleep you don't eat you don't you don't function one o'clock in the morning and aye that one
12:34o'clock turned into two three four it was on it starts getting light outside and then it's this is another
12:39day now where you just you're up and you're you're ready to see what's what this day is going to bring
12:45you're ready to see what's going to be done by day three of this missing persons case priorities had
12:57started to shift on monday the 21st of march a major incident room was established at clydebank
13:04police office by that time page was a high-risk missing person and shortly after officers were
13:10dispatched on numerous inquiries while it was still a missing persons case police now had to consider
13:17the possibility that if page was found she may not be alive investigations honed in on those closest to
13:25her as investigators you know we always immediately think right it's usually somebody that has known
13:34who are all the people around about her that involves family friends boyfriends somebody who's
13:40friendly with us usually connection so that's always going to be one of our first lines of inquiry
13:45with the pressure intensifying the police sent specialist search officers into the family home
13:51the police came quite early it must have been about half ten ten half ten and they were coming to take
13:56statements from us and search our house
13:59while police search pages home
14:07a body was found an investigation has been launched after a body was found in cloud bank
14:13police were called out to an area just off great western road about quarter to one this afternoon
14:18the body of a young woman had been discovered locally
14:35i could see where the body's lying her head facing me and and our legs
14:42uh were pointing kind of further in towards the the bushes and the trees there and her arms were
14:50up over our chest some effort to try and conceal her uh with just the grass that had been pulled over
14:57clearly i don't know if it's suspicious given the circumstances in my mind i'm thinking
15:09this is a real potential that this is a child murder what was a priority for me is that we kept a
15:14missing person inquiry open because the potential is we've got a 15 year old who's still out and about
15:19and i've got potential of getting her back to her loved ones so identification of the bodies is critical
15:26there is a chance that might not be your missing person page doctor
15:36with the body still at the crime scene forensic scientist dr neve stevenson was called in
15:42to uncover clues as to the identity of the victim how she died and who could be responsible
15:48i'm confronted with the body of of a very young girl a very pretty girl and um she has got amongst
15:58the the worst injuries i have have ever seen she's got um very serious injuries to her her neck and her
16:06upper body she's got a lot of blood staining on her body there's very little blood staining actually
16:12around her body so that to me suggests that she has not been assaulted in this area
16:18that this um is a deposition site so this is where her body has been taken to after she's been
16:24assaulted somewhere else the body was clearly that of a young woman but the identity still needed to
16:32be established page's family were informed two cid came we went upstairs to page's room and they said
16:43there's no easy way you turn is that he's not going to beat about the bush but there a body has been
16:47found and they don't know whether it's page or somebody else i was just on facebook and i said a
16:55woman's body it never said like i thought if it would be like oh it's a young young girl's body or whatever
17:03it was a woman's body so that way i was kind of in the back of my mind was like hopefully it's not her
17:07you know your whole world's turned upside down one body been found and you're hoping it's not
17:12the badges are to come to come to you but you're still gonna do the horrendous feeling inside you
17:18you know everybody in white crook not just not just me and my family a lot of people are friends and
17:23you know all you're all hoping it wasn't a page that somebody's gonna eat bad news
17:28the body needed to be identified and page's family were called to the morgue
17:38it was just me and andrew that went in and it was a a screen like a tv screen
17:44and they brought the picture up and i can remember you just
17:49collapsing on the couch kind of well it's as if his legs had just came came away from me
17:56and i looked right into the place and says it was definitely her
18:04her face was tilted slightly so i couldn't see anything significant and i just thought she looked
18:11peaceful she just looked like a baby again she just looked so young
18:19that was a mess i'd spent so long thinking she was coming home it's not something that
18:25that you think that your family's going to go through you see these things in the news
18:30and you always see oh god that poor family no but you never think you'll be that poor family
18:42my mobile rang and i thought it's not good news and the whistle couldn't even speak
18:47speak but she didn't have to speak i knew so obviously sorry
18:58i phoned my husband and everybody and said unfortunately it was page
19:02the cid had came to my house they kind of just said it straight away and straight away like
19:12just my full body was shaking and i just felt physically sick you feel like that you're in a dream
19:20one minute and then you're not
19:25with the devastating news that the body was that of page the community reacted with shock that there
19:30was a child killer amongst them it went from the case of a missing teenager to a murdered teenager
19:38with a murderer on the loose and this tiny little community
19:43it was a real moment of realization that they actually couldn't trust the people that were
19:52living next door
19:56the hunt for the killer was now on
19:59i took the decision to go early in the media and confirm it was a homicide inquiry
20:03what i need to ask is if you were here and stopped in this location or if you saw anything
20:07suspicious you saw any car saw anything that you just think out of the ordinary please come forward
20:12police inquiry that had just been launched and at that time everyone was wondering who's responsible
20:22and it was a manhunt basically to find who had done this to this little girl and it wasn't long
20:29before the community started to look to itself for answers you're doing the people wondering was it was
20:36it them you know you're a lot of things you're through your mind it terrifies me that somebody
20:40that could be living next door to somebody that could watch your kids somebody could be in and out
20:45your family you just don't know i'm trying to establish at that time what are the motives why would
20:50somebody kill a 15 year old child there were no suspects and that's that's genuine
21:01the streets are bare here because there's nobody been caught for this
21:05me page been murdered people are concerned people are worried
21:09and rightly so because you don't know who's done this you know if they're going to strike again
21:15we need to piece together the movements of page from 20 past eight saturday morning which we're missing
21:21until we find the body here at one o'clock on monday afternoon is it possible she was attacked by
21:26someone that she knew i can't give a definitive in the close-knit community of white crook everyone's
21:40worst fears had been realized when missing teenager page docherty had been found brutally murdered
21:45why was she killed how was she killed there were so many questions surrounding pages death
21:55when the police received the result of the post-mortem it revealed details of a frantic attack
22:00which pointed towards an extremely violent and callous killer there were 61 stab wounds to the body
22:09now 43 of them which were stab wounds were to the basically the head and neck area
22:16the significant injury to that body was to the left hand side of the neck and beyond the stab wounds
22:24there were approximately above 80 i think it was 85 incised wounds which we would call a slashing movement
22:30the injuries were so friendly and so horrific it was a sustained attack this wasn't one stab wound
22:40this these were multiple stab and slash wounds we've got someone out there who's committed this act
22:45we've got someone out there who can come out and act so heinous so vicious that he's still out there
22:50the stabs were through her head on her marks on her face but the majority of
23:01the wounds that were inflicted were on her neck she didn't have a chance she didn't have a chance
23:13news of a killer on the loose terrified the community there's a real cloud of fear
23:20that came over the town and i think everyone was that little bit more terrified to let their
23:26kids out because even the people that you knew could be the most dangerous people in the world
23:32when i start and dig i know at the same age as you it makes you think like you can't trust
23:37anyone like how can you trust going anywhere so i was like like so anxious and i was it was
23:47physically making me ill i was just being sick constant so stomachs and i was so scared to go
23:52to sleep and everything i'm saying myself you know who done it yeah yeah you're wondering you look
23:59the people you know any kind of shift of looking people and and so many things you're so many
24:05emotions so many things through your mind people are thinking oh there must be someone we need to find
24:08out who ever done this he must be about here somewhere and the words words were saying by me was
24:14he's got to be close by it can't even be far away he's got to be close by here he's someone knows this
24:20area with tensions running high in the neighborhood police needed to work fast to find the perpetrator
24:31we had no clear suspects we looked clearly into her full background and there is nothing to indicate
24:38whatsoever that there was could be any motive or any underlying issue that somebody would want to
24:43target page and that is a lonely place as an sio and as a as a major investigation team because people
24:53want answers to the side of it there with no solid leads police went back to the spot of her last
24:59positive sighting and re-examined statements from key witness john leatham who had served page at his
25:05delhi on the saturday morning before she left to catch her bus to work from that point john
25:14leatham had told us she had left the delhi to when her body was recovered just after midday on the monday
25:21but where had page gone after leaving john's shop we had to fill every piece of that and so every route
25:28potentially that she walked every bus that she potentially took desperate for answers police
25:34re-examined cctv footage of the shops to establish pages next movements but what they discovered was
25:41to shock them to the core john leatham had lied my two cctv guys came rushing into the room to basically
25:50say you need to come and see this we've seen page enter the delhi and john leatham's movements
26:02became unusual something's untoward see that this shutters are down where the shop should be open
26:10he's left the shop running to his home address to bring back his car so this point we're thinking the
26:16shutters are down he's running away from the delhi page hasn't come out yet i think something's
26:22happened in the shop page had entered the delhi as stated but she never walked out as john leatham had
26:30claimed the cctv footage appeared to show john leatham return in his car
26:36then carry page's lifeless body out of his delhi and dump her in his boot
26:47my hair's in the back of my spine it was almost you know the callousness that
26:56i can't describe it quite frankly it was surreal it was a moment you don't see things like that
27:03but police now thought they had their man and prepared for an arrest
27:10what's so important for me is that he doesn't slip in there he doesn't get away
27:14you don't get him it's also important at that point in time to think of the local community
27:18because how are they going to react with police closing in on their suspect page's family had to be
27:24informed
27:30police said at the end house she said i want everybody promised i'm not going to try and leave
27:36this house and they're like why and she said we're in the process of detaining a 31 year old man
27:43they said they were going to go through the doors of two premises and that it was a local man
27:48that couldn't give us his name they're not allowed to give us his name but they did see to pamela you do
27:53know pamela was trying to figure out who he was i knew that that community would be devastated when
28:00they found out who had murdered page doherty
28:08in the past few minutes police have announced that john letham's been arrested in connection with
28:12the death of cline bank teenager page doherty the text has raided the delicious deli here on
28:19fleming avenue now that's the last place that page was seen last saturday morning when the identity
28:25of the chief suspect was revealed the whole community was in shock he had always seemed really
28:30friendly and that was probably one of the most frightening things for people in the community
28:34is that he did up until this point always seem very very normal oh no johnny it wasn't johnny johnny's
28:41a nice guy johnny's a lovely guy he passed by me every day having his wife for the baby how you
28:47doing you know how you doing you know i never give that man a second thought john leatham opened the
28:53delicious deli in 2013 and moved to a flat nearby in 2015 with his new wife and baby when john was
29:02arrested we knew that obviously he had lived in the area for a few years he had a wife and a young baby
29:10and he was a well respected businessman he had really built it up from nothing and he had done
29:16really well with it he was a loving dad loving husband hard-working man and appeared to the outsider
29:25to be a really friendly guy that was a big part of the community community here they welcomed them
29:35in they they went to his shop every day people spent a lot of money across there because they liked him
29:41you know liked his food you know that you know he seemed like a nice guy when i used to go into the
29:48shop now the guy seemed okay you know what i mean he was uh pretty decent i i thought it might have
29:54been a mistake i just couldn't believe it you know what i mean it was so friendly it was unbelievable
30:01more chance i win the lottery i would say than i'm doing that willie munro even remembers speaking
30:09to john leatham while the whole community was out searching for paige i was leaving the shop door
30:15he said to me how you coping big man straight to my face over the counter you know how callous is that
30:21knowing what he knew about three years later that he was charged with the murder of paige
30:27leatham was now in custody
30:33but he maintained his innocence when we asked questions about the murder of paige
30:38doherty which took place between 08 15 hours and saturday the 19th of march 2016
30:45and 12 45 hours on monday the 21st of march 2016. so are you adamant we will find no forensic evidence
30:53linking you to paige doherty no you sure about that and when you say positive is that because
31:04with leatham denying his involvement police had to prove he had killed paige inside the delhi
31:09and called in the forensics team the whole street from that yellow box right across to that tree was
31:15all cornered off and the tents were all put up there the forensics team were in they bought a big
31:20police unit thing see if people come in see how what they feel how did they see anything
31:26we've got warrants for both the delicious delhi we've got a warrant for his house around the corner
31:31and i want for his car so i come into the kitchen area and i'm looking for any visible obvious blood
31:39staining um and i didn't see any i then went into this office area and there was no obvious blood
31:49staining either if there had been an assault in this room then i would expect to find more
31:56it looked neat it looked tidy it did not look like there'd been um a disturbance in here
32:04with no sign of a crime having taken place inside the delhi police were baffled
32:09unfortunately for us in almost a slight disappointment feeling that we had there was nothing to indicate
32:15that that had been an assault site i questioned as it potentially was paige still alive when she was
32:21taken from the shop has she been taken somewhere else and murdered but then compelling new evidence
32:29came to light john leatham's neighbor came forward with new information which appeared to support the
32:34police theory that paige had been killed in the shop and i seen paige had black jeans on a black jacket
32:42and night trainers on when i seen her that saturday morning going by me and i said bye i'll see you later on
32:48she says okay and she went in there within the space of five minutes his shutters had came down
32:56and then he came onto the scene about half past nine out there was moving the board came out there
33:02half past nine and me and the lady the hairdresser woman turned and says what's that you got on your
33:06nose he goes uh she goes blood and he turned out says i just after taking a nosebleed and then he goes
33:13then he went back into his shop then i came back to my shop and he came into my shop just after 10
33:18to get black bags off for my boy as she told the police john leatham had bought bleach antibacterial
33:25wipes and bin bags from his shop that morning with this information police re-examined the deli
33:33we're looking for blood we're looking for fibers we're looking for hair looking for weapons these are
33:39all critical pieces of forensic evidence we lifted floorboards and there was blood staining found
33:48between the floorboards there was some blood staining on this um oven here and there was some blood
33:55staining between the fridge and the freezer as well as on the back of the wall a lot more blood had
34:03been present within this area of the office but it had subsequently been cleaned up he'd he'd made a real
34:10attempt to try and clean up this crime it was quite clear uh from neve's description of the blood
34:18uh within the scene that that had been the assault site that was where paige had died
34:25police had their man they had the evidence but what they didn't have was a motive i'm going to charge
34:34you you john leatham at the delicious deli they'd repeatedly attack strike and stabbed the deceased to
34:41the face neck and arms and you did mother do you understand the charge have you anything to say
34:56what drove someone at the heart of a community to carry out such a barbaric and frenzied attack
35:03what do we have to do to get you to explain to us what is going on in that shop she's going to
35:09your shop that morning to buy a roll for our breakfast and she never walks out of that shop
35:14again and what has caused page doherty to be in that state you're the only person who's been in and
35:22out of that shop you're the only person who can tell us what happened
35:33in clivebank the body of schoolgirl page doherty had been found brutally murdered
35:38and local shopkeeper john leatham had been arrested and charged with killing her
35:42sending shock waves through the community you'll be doing in history you know that
35:49but the question on everyone's lips was what had driven a popular
35:52member of the community to carry out such a horrific murder
35:57a lot of people got affected by this you know i've got kids that even have a new page
36:01but affected by this because it can happen to them you think you know somebody and you don't you know
36:06why would somebody want to do that to her that was a big thing was the why why why would you want
36:13to hurt her it could have been any child that day it could have been any anyone walked in that day
36:19there's no reason why it was page that could have been my daughter it could have been anybody
36:26and i think that's hard for people of the area to think there's just there's no there's no reason
36:32he's the only person that knows why he's the only person that can tell us
36:42and when john leatham appeared in court he finally gave a glimpse into what had driven him to kill
36:49it was one of the first times that he had appeared at court since he had been arrested
36:53it was completely intended that he would go to trial so it was a complete complete shock to us
37:02that he pled guilty at that hearing we weren't prepared for it in any way and as more details
37:11poured out it only became more shocking he's given clearly an account through his defense
37:19at the court he's trying to put some mitigating circumstance into about why it happened
37:24what the motive for the murder was
37:29you claim that while in the course of preparing and serving the child with food
37:36you and she had a general conversation about work
37:40as a result of which you decided to take down her details in the back office with a view to the
37:49potential offer of a part-time job
37:55there after discovering that she was only 15 years of age you told her that you could not employ her
38:04when he explained that to her she then threatened to tell pamela and other members of her family that
38:14he had inappropriately touched her no evidence has been placed before me to support your assertion
38:23it is not part of the agreed narrative it is not accepted by the crown how does that cause someone
38:29to show horrific life frenzied vicious extremely reaction to that i just don't get her
38:38at that stage after you both stood up suddenly the child started screaming
38:44you immediately reacted by grabbing a knife on a shelf in the back office and proceeded to stab her repeatedly
38:57with no history of mental illness and no previous convictions it seemed that on the 19th of march
39:032016 john leatham snapped an act that would change the lives of everyone
39:08what causes somebody to be so extreme in their violence to snap it had to be sustained it had
39:16to be over time this isn't a couple of star wounds this isn't you know one star wound in the heart
39:21someone's died this isn't an accident i didn't mean to cause this was sustained extreme
39:28starving i tried to blacken her name and that's a big thing in court with a stupid excuse which was
39:34an excuse anyway it was pathetic everybody that knows page can vouch for the type of person she is
39:39and she would not destroy a family because she wanted a job she had a job you wonder was he obsessed
39:46with page did he have a fantasy about page i don't know after killing page leatham put her body in his car
39:55and continued to serve customers in the deli until the end of the day
39:59there after you appear to have left the child's body locked in your garden shed while you took your
40:09wife and child out for the day two days after the killing you saw fit to dispose of the child's body
40:19in waste ground situated off great western road where she was subsequently found in the undergrowth
40:29having pleaded guilty at the court hearing no trial took place leatham was jailed for 27 years
40:37it's great we got them locked up it's great they got a life sentence justice has been done it will
40:43give pamela and andrew some kind of solace but it will not give them the answer that they're looking
40:48for and we're looking for you'll never be man enough to come forward pamela in the eye or me or anybody
40:55and say listen this is what happened that day that's never going to happen we've got the life
41:01sentence we don't have a visiting hours we don't have letters from her we don't have anything we've
41:07just got memories in a graveyard to visit and that's all
41:14john leatham's sentence was reduced to 23 years on appeal
41:18his delicious deli lies abandoned
41:32i'm amazed at just how much it hasn't been touched that it's it's been left pretty much as john leatham
41:40left it on the night that he was arrested you know with the ice cream the fridge is still on
41:48nothing in this room or this daily has moved on very much the way that nothing in white crook
41:54or clive bank as a whole has ever really been able to move on because this tragedy has really left
42:01such a horrendous fingerprint on this once very thriving and happy community
42:08it's not just willing to know it's sad you know it's everybody humanity's sad to be friends or
42:20or devastated you know it's hard for everybody and new page
42:28for page's family living their own life sentence following her brutal murder
42:33they are determined to preserve her memory forever page was beautiful page doesn't need to be
42:39remembered because of him we don't even talk about him we don't mention him we we don't want to think
42:46about him we live every day with page part of her life there isn't a day goes by that we don't speak
42:51about her there isn't a day where our kids don't speak about her and she's involved in everything
42:59everything that we do we just want everybody to remember her everybody remember for her who she
43:04was and not what happened to her the community of white crook has been rocked by this appalling crime
43:12but one question will always remain what was the motive behind the killing i don't know what what's
43:19the reason behind it what what motivated him to go and do that to an innocent we win just a wee child
43:2415 year old kid there's no remorse in it why did you do it she went into that shop and she never came
43:31back out you know how hell did that happen on your own doorstep
43:39i think he's obsessed with page i think there'd be a bit of obsession there there's only two people
43:44know what happened that daily and page is dead i like to think that it was just a moment of sheer
43:51insanity i would love to know why he did it don't know if those are questions that we'll ever get
43:58answers to
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