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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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06:00C'est l'espace théâtre, l'espace d'un-réalité, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu de la liberté créative pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:29Donc, une fois que je suis fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Je n'ai pas encore dans mon corps.
06:36Je dois continuer à faire quelque chose.
06:38C'est quelque chose qui est dans toi.
06:43C'est difficile de expliquer.
06:48Ils parlent de toi, mais tu es toujours le même.
06:57Oh, absolument.
07:19J'ai commencé par le début de tout en 4K.
07:23Et je fais tout les restaurations myself.
07:25Donc, c'est tout qui vient de moi.
07:28Et vous pouvez les acheter directement de moi sur www.buynwr.com.
07:32Je vais signer votre box set et sender l'offre à vous.
07:37Je suis un grand fan de 4K.
07:40Je l'aime 4K.
07:42Je pense que 4K est, comme, oh, amazing.
07:45Parce que beaucoup de films peuvent être re-watches avec une meilleure qualité.
07:51Et qui ne veut pas ça ?
07:53Donc, c'est un nouveau layer, le nouveau normal pour moi.
07:58Donc, j'ai décidé de faire tous mes films en 4K,
08:01lentement les rouleur, vous savez.
08:06Je pense que le cinéma, et la télévision pour ça,
08:10ont eu un très dur temps dans les dernières 10 ou 15 ans.
08:16Générique, social media, VR, canvases sont explosifs.
08:20Et ils sont constantly evolving,
08:22parce que technologie est permettant d'eux à l'eux.
08:25En movies et télévision,
08:27TV est devenu plus et plus juste content
08:30que vous regardez à ce que vous regardez
08:31pendant que vous faites d'autres choses.
08:33Et movies sont toujours l'un de l'exclusivité,
08:37de la collectivité collective.
08:39Mais je pense que movies aussi doivent re-évaluer themselves.
08:44Je me souviens quand nous étions en Cannes,
08:46pour «Oui, God Forgives »,
08:47et après tout le monde m'a vu pour tant longtemps,
08:51durant mon stay,
08:54je me souviens,
08:55je peux être en train de me et de mon film,
08:58mais je suis de l'avenir,
09:01et je vais faire quelque chose
09:02qui va prendre ce qu'il sera comme
09:05si vous voulez faire films dans l'avenir.
09:07Et je suis correct,
09:09parce que après «Oui, God Forgives »,
09:11l'industrie changé parce que Netflix.
09:14Netflix était le changement changer.
09:15Et il changé, pas seulement ce que nous faisons,
09:18mais c'est comment nous expérions,
09:21film et content,
09:23essentiellement,
09:23comment nous regardions.
09:24Et je pense que pour justifier
09:26que pour un film existir en longévité,
09:29vous devez voir ce qu'un film peut devenir,
09:33plutôt que ce qu'il était en train de se faire.
09:37Violence est comme sexe.
09:39C'est tout de suite sur le build-up.
09:40Bang, bang,
09:41et puis c'est sur le autre wall.
09:43Maintenant,
09:43c'est un délic, unique, intéressant,
09:45jamais vu en violence.
09:50Je ne suis pas très stratégique,
09:52mais je vais dire,
09:54que tout est une évolution de quelque chose.
09:57c'est un délic,
09:59et il peut y avoir un tendance,
10:01quand c'est comme ça,
10:03que tout le monde
10:05veut le même,
10:07mais je ne pense pas que c'est vrai.
10:10C'est mieux que c'est ce qu'on a donné,
10:10c'est plus qu'un autre,
10:11ou quelque chose de différent,
10:13ou quelque chose que
10:14ne te détruise pas,
10:16en order de faire quelque chose de nouveau,
10:19de transition.
10:20You know,
10:20obviously the two films
10:22are very different,
10:23but what ties them
10:24is myself
10:26and Ryan's interaction.
10:29However,
10:29I find that interesting.
10:31It's like taking something
10:32and turning it on its head.
10:34It's taking the ultimate superhero
10:36in one movie
10:37and emasculating him
10:39in the next.
10:39It's taking one movie
10:41that's very poppy
10:42and another movie
10:43that's very esoteric.
10:46And that, I think,
10:47is what makes
10:49the world interesting
10:50is that things
10:51can become different.
10:53It can evolve
10:53into other components
10:55rather than just always
10:57staying in the same
10:58repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly
11:01run out of steam,
11:02in my opinion.
11:03I was very happy,
11:05but obviously,
11:07you know,
11:08a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing
11:11and screaming,
11:12but then I was like,
11:13that's kind of cool
11:15because then you like
11:16the Sex Pistols of Cinema.
11:18you know,
11:18you're like the one
11:19everyone throws bottles at,
11:21but you can't deny it existence.
11:23You can't really criticize it
11:25because I did it my way.
11:27The world will see it
11:29as it continues to evolve
11:31and you just have to be,
11:33you have to just to be,
11:34trust yourself.
11:35So you never lose your vision
11:36when you have that strong reaction?
11:39No, on the contrary,
11:40you're like,
11:40it's like energy.
11:41It's like,
11:42just wait for the next one.
11:43I love that.
11:45I'm like you.
11:46I have no regrets
11:47about Only God Forgives.
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49and it is.
11:50I just didn't make it
11:51very expensive.
11:52Is there a doctor in the house?
11:54We need to get a medic in here.
11:58Is there a doctor around?
12:00When you were mentioning
12:012001,
12:02it says,
12:03you forgot to add drive.
12:05We'll let that slip.
12:06We won't know about drive
12:08for another 30 years.
12:1030 seconds.
12:10Whether it lives or dies.
12:12I'm talking about films.
12:152001 was made in 1968.
12:18I made this film
12:19about four years ago.
12:20Four years is a zip.
12:22It's not even a blip.
12:24It's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole of humanity.
12:28What was funny about
12:29talking to Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was,
12:32he had a man
12:33who had struggled a lot
12:34in Hollywood.
12:36and started very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then gone into Sorceress
12:43and, you know,
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years.
12:49And I think that was
12:50what was so sad,
12:52in a way,
12:52that it had such an effect on him.
12:54It was a little bit like
12:55Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films,
13:00both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate,
13:02are probably their best films.
13:04for some reason,
13:06get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence
13:12and it affects all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards.
13:14and I was like,
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right,
13:19you're wrong.
13:23I mean,
13:24I've done two shows,
13:26one with Amazon,
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making,
13:30obviously,
13:30but I don't know
13:32how much I want to continue.
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38and go and make movies again.
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts,
13:45you know,
13:45and trying to find other areas
13:49of creativity.
13:50But I think it's time
13:52to go make a film again.
13:53You said you work on two shows,
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five also.
13:57So The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I just,
14:02how do you say,
14:02executive produced
14:03or created,
14:04but I had no involvement in it.
14:07Otherwise,
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of concept
14:09and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read the books
14:15when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like
14:19a past history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity.
14:27Well, I mean,
14:28if something is interesting,
14:30you know,
14:30why not look at it?
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings
14:32in Hollywood,
14:33met wonderful people,
14:35but in the end,
14:36I like my freedom.
14:38That's all I really want
14:39is just to be free.
14:41When you work in Hollywood,
14:42there is a contract.
14:44Some people love that
14:45and can work within that.
14:48It's maybe not so much
14:49my thing right now,
14:51but who knows,
14:52maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big,
14:54you know,
14:55big superhero movie.
14:58That could be fun,
14:59maybe.
14:59I don't know.
15:00I'm pretty open
15:00to anything,
15:01but at the same time,
15:02at the end,
15:03you should just make
15:04what makes you happy.
15:06It's one thing
15:06having creative control,
15:08which is easier enough,
15:11but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden on you
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get,
15:17you know,
15:18recouped.
15:19and then you have
15:19to make a certain
15:20type of movie.
15:21You don't have
15:22the freedom
15:22to do whatever you want
15:23because you're
15:24a slave to the economics.
15:27If your film costs
15:28200 million dollars
15:29or 100 million dollars,
15:30you need to make
15:31300, 400 million dollars
15:32to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain
15:34on what kind of movie
15:35can you make,
15:36and I don't want
15:37any conditions on me
15:39at all.
15:41you have to be
15:42completely free.
15:47I mean,
15:48in the beginning,
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking about
15:50another drive,
15:52but it was like,
15:53that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of.
15:56So never?
15:56Never.
15:57Never.
15:57I've been very lucky
16:07to live a fun life,
16:09and it has nothing
16:12to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:17It has that I've had
16:18opportunities,
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people,
16:22I've met people,
16:23I've spoken with people,
16:24and it's all been
16:26a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started,
16:30the idea of being seen
16:32was very essential,
16:33the idea of fame,
16:35and fame being,
16:36it's like an opportunity,
16:38it's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous,
16:41the next,
16:42what are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously,
16:44it's like anything,
16:45it's an opportunity.
16:47I don't have any love.
16:50You're a mess.
16:51You're working all the time.
16:52I also have to work.
16:54I'm also...
16:55I'm...
16:56We're going to be here
16:59in Bangkok for six months.
17:01Yang Han will make
17:02his next film,
17:02and I've said yes
17:03to the film process.
17:06It's new to be with him,
17:08when he's filming.
17:10Last time he did Drive,
17:11I was home in Denmark
17:12with the children.
17:14It took over 10 months,
17:16and it was just
17:17for hard to be away from each other.
17:21My daily life is,
17:22I have a routine.
17:23I wake up,
17:24I do two-hour sports
17:26every day,
17:27then I usually
17:28have lunch,
17:30then I get yelled at
17:31by my kids,
17:33I work at night,
17:35and then
17:35try not to get
17:37to bed
17:38too late,
17:39and then
17:39Friday comes
17:41and it's weekend,
17:42and
17:42you try to relax
17:45a little more,
17:45and the next day
17:46is Monday.
17:47You watch movies?
17:48I used to watch
17:50a lot of movies
17:51when I was a lot younger,
17:52but now it's just
17:53harder and harder.
17:54There's other things
17:55that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well,
17:58I did my first exhibition
18:00that just opened in Tokyo,
18:02and that's been a lot of fun
18:03to do that.
18:04A collaboration
18:05with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Can you talk about that?
18:08Well,
18:09it's
18:09I created an exhibition
18:11that opened
18:13on Friday
18:14last week
18:15in Tokyo
18:16where I built
18:17this installation
18:18between us.
18:20I saw my wife
18:21and my daughter
18:22in the procession.
18:24Hey,
18:25it's me!
18:31Where are you going?
18:33Wait!
18:34Don't live without me!
18:42No!
18:43Don't go!
18:45Please!
18:46Don't go!
18:48And you are
18:49in Death Stranding 2.
18:51I am Heart Man,
18:52and Heart Man
18:53is forever
18:54in Death Stranding.
19:00I think that
19:01don't believe
19:02everything you read
19:03on the internet
19:03Can you tease us something?
19:06Well,
19:06believe everything
19:07you read
19:07on the internet.
19:08Okay.
19:08Okay.
19:16You're going to see
19:18a film.
19:33on the what's going on.
19:37You're going to be
19:38第 semence,
19:39you're going to cair
19:39in the HAA動,
19:39and Ronnie,
19:39and...
19:40you're going to
19:40find yourlozy
19:41in the Motel.
19:42And the
19:42you're not going to
19:43get this thing,
19:44by the way!
19:44If you're going to keep
19:45on track,
19:46duyソ공 doesn't
19:46buy anything.
19:46Yeah.
19:47All right!
19:48We're out.
19:48Okay.
19:49We're out.
19:49Good morning.