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  • 29/07/2025
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36je dois mettre en quelque chose.
11:01J'ai run out of steam, in my opinion.
11:03I was very happy,
11:05but obviously,
11:07you know, a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing
11:11and screaming, but then I was like,
11:13that's kind of cool, because
11:15then you're like the sex pistols
11:17of cinema, you know, you're like
11:19the one everyone throws bottles at, but
11:21you can't deny it existence,
11:23you can't really criticize
11:25it, because I did it my way.
11:27The world will see it
11:29as it continues to evolve
11:31and you just have to be,
11:33you have to just to be, trust yourself.
11:35So you never lose your vision, when
11:37you have that strong reaction? No,
11:39on the contrary, you're like, it's like energy,
11:41it's like, just wait for the next one.
11:43I love that.
11:45I'm like you, I have no regrets about
11:47Only God Forgives, I think it's a masterpiece,
11:49and it is. I just didn't
11:51make it very expensive. Is there a doctor
11:53in the house?
11:55We need to get a medic in here.
11:58Is there a doctor
11:59around? When you were mentioning
12:012001, it says,
12:03I think, Kane, you forgot to add Drive.
12:05We'll let that slip.
12:06We won't know about Drive for another 30 years.
12:1030 seconds.
12:10Whether it lives or dies.
12:12I'm talking about films,
12:142001 was made in 1968.
12:18I made this film
12:19about four years ago.
12:20Four years is a zip.
12:22It's not even a blip.
12:23It's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole of humanity.
12:28What was funny about talking
12:30to Billy Friedkin was that it was,
12:32he had a man who had struggled
12:34a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then gone into sorceress
12:43and, you know,
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years.
12:49and I think that was
12:50what was so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had such an effect
12:54on him.
12:54It's a little bit like
12:55Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films,
13:00both Sorcerers
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably
13:03their best films,
13:05for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10or they lose
13:11their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards.
13:15And I was like,
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right,
13:19you're wrong.
13:23I mean,
13:24I've done two shows,
13:26one with Amazon,
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like
13:29what I was making,
13:30obviously,
13:30but I don't know
13:32how much
13:35I want to continue.
13:36I may want to
13:37take a break
13:38and go and make
13:40movies again.
13:41I've decided
13:42to do more
13:42visual arts,
13:45you know,
13:45and trying
13:46to find other
13:48areas of creativity.
13:50But I think
13:51it's time
13:52to go make
13:53a film again.
13:54You said
13:54you work on two shows,
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five
13:56or something.
13:57So The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I just,
14:02how do you say,
14:02executive produced
14:03or created,
14:04but I had no
14:05involvement in it.
14:07Otherwise,
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of concept
14:09and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read
14:14the books
14:15when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like
14:19a past history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity.
14:23and I was like,
14:24I don't know what's
14:25going on.
14:26I don't know what's
14:26going on.
14:26I don't know what's
14:27going on.
14:27Well, I mean,
14:28if something is
14:29interesting,
14:30you know,
14:30why not look at it?
14:31I've had some
14:31wonderful meetings
14:32in Hollywood,
14:33met wonderful people,
14:35but in the end,
14:36I like my freedom.
14:38That's all I really want
14:39is just to be free.
14:41When you work
14:41in Hollywood,
14:42there is a contract.
14:44Some people love
14:45that and can work
14:46within that.
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now,
14:51but who knows,
14:52maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big,
14:55you know,
14:55big superhero movie.
14:57That could be fun,
14:59maybe.
14:59I don't know.
15:00I'm pretty open
15:00to anything,
15:01but at the same time,
15:02at the end,
15:03you should just make
15:04what makes you happy.
15:06It's one thing
15:06having creative control,
15:08which is easier enough,
15:11but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden on you.
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get recouped.
15:19And then you have to make
15:20a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom
15:22to do whatever you want
15:23because you're a slave
15:25to the economics.
15:27If your film costs
15:28$200 million
15:29or $100 million,
15:30you need to make
15:31$300, $400 million
15:32to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain
15:34on what kind of movie
15:35can you make.
15:36And I don't want
15:37any conditions on me
15:39at all.
15:42You have to be
15:42completely free.
15:45I mean,
15:48in the beginning,
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking about
15:50another drive,
15:52but it was like,
15:53that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of.
15:56So never?
15:56Never.
16:05I've been very lucky
16:07to live a fun life.
16:09and it has nothing
16:12to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:17It has that I've had
16:18opportunities
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people.
16:22I've met people.
16:23I've spoken with people.
16:25And it's all been
16:26a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started,
16:30the idea of being seen
16:32was very essential.
16:33The idea of fame
16:34and fame being
16:36an opportunity,
16:37it's like an opportunity,
16:38it's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous,
16:41the next,
16:42what are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously,
16:44it's like anything,
16:45it's an opportunity.
16:47I don't get any love.
16:50You have to work all the time.
16:52I also want to work.
16:54I also want to...
16:55I want to work all the time.
16:58We're going to be here
16:59in Bangkok for six months.
17:01Yang Han is going to make
17:02his next film,
17:02and I've said yes
17:03to the film process.
17:06It's new to be with him,
17:08when he's filming.
17:10Last time he made Drive,
17:11I was home in Denmark
17:12with the children.
17:14It took over 10 months.
17:16It was just hard
17:17to be away from each other.
17:21My daily life
17:22is I have a routine.
17:23I wake up,
17:24I do two-hour sports
17:26every day.
17:27Then I usually have lunch.
17:30Then I get yelled at
17:31by my kids.
17:33I work at night
17:34and then try not
17:36to get to bed too late.
17:39And then Friday comes
17:41and it's weekend
17:42and you try to relax
17:45a little more
17:45and the next day is Monday.
17:47You watch movies?
17:49I used to watch
17:50a lot of movies
17:51when I was a lot younger,
17:52but now it's just
17:53harder and harder.
17:54there's other things
17:55that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:58Well, I did my first
17:59exhibition
18:00that just opened
18:01in Tokyo
18:02and that's been
18:03a lot of fun
18:03to do that.
18:04A collaboration
18:05with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Yeah.
18:07Can you talk about that?
18:08Well, I created
18:10an exhibition
18:11that opened
18:13Friday last week
18:15in Tokyo
18:16where I built
18:17this installation
18:18between us.
18:20I saw my wife
18:21and my daughter
18:22in the procession.
18:23I saw my wife
18:24and my daughter
18:25in the procession.
18:26where are you going?
18:33Wait!
18:38Don't leave without me!
18:41No!
18:43Don't go!
18:44Please!
18:45Don't go!
18:46And you are in
18:49Death Stranding 2 also.
18:51I am Heart Man
18:52and Heart Man
18:53is forever
18:54in Death Stranding.
18:55I think that
19:01don't believe
19:02everything you read
19:03on the internet.
19:04Can you tease us
19:05something?
19:06Well, believe
19:06everything you read
19:07on the internet.
19:08Ah, okay.
19:34and you will learn
19:35and stop talking
19:35to the people
19:36and I will
19:37wait for you
19:37and get
19:38to the vision
19:39of Jesus.
19:41Okay,
19:42where
19:48you
19:48are
19:49kind of
19:49going
19:50in
19:51that
19:52beginning
19:53is
19:53kind of
19:56happening!
19:58That brings us
20:00to the
20:00purpose
20:01of
20:02go