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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36J'ai dû prendre l'affaire.
06:38J'ai besoin d'avoir borrowed de quelque chose,
06:40j'ai besoin d'avoir un autre.
06:42Réalisé parlait de toute Douai.
06:43Le moulin est plus en moi.
06:45C'est impossible de dire.
06:47C'est impossible que j'avais l'affaire.
06:49Ils sont qui intéressents.
06:50Ils disent que j'ai besoin d'être.
06:52C'est impossible à comprendre.
06:54C'est impossible que j'ai besoin d'avoir un autre.
09:40bang bang and then it's to the other wall now make it dirty unique interesting never seen before in
09:46violent i'm not that strategic but i i will say that it everything is an evolution of something
09:58and there can be a tendency when something is liked that everyone wants the same same but i
10:08don't necessarily think that's true it's better to give them something else or something different
10:13or something that destroys your past in order to make something new to transition you know obviously
10:21the two films are very different but what ties them is myself and ryan's interaction however i
10:29find that interesting it's like taking something and turning it on its head you know it's taking
10:34the ultimate superhero in one movie and emasculating him in the next it's taking one movie that's very
10:41poppy and another movie that's very esoteric and that i think is what makes the world interesting
10:50is that things can become different it can evolve into other components rather than just always
10:57staying in the same repeat lane because you very quickly run out of steam in my opinion i was uh
11:04i was very happy but obviously you know a lot of harsh reactions and a lot of booing and screaming but
11:12then i was like that's kind of cool because then you like sex pistols of cinema you know you're like
11:19the one everyone throws bottles at but you can't deny it existence you can't really criticize it because
11:26i did it my way the world will see it as it continues to evolve and and you just have to be you have
11:33just to be trust yourself so you never lose your vision when you have that strong reaction no on
11:39the contrary you're like it's like energy it's like just wait for the next one i love that i'm like
11:45you i have no regrets about only god forgives i think it's a masterpiece and it is i just didn't make
11:51it very expensive doctor in the house we we need to get a medic in here is there is there a doctor around
11:59when you were mentioning 2001 you forgot to add drive but we'll let that slip we won't know about
12:07drive for another 30 years 30 seconds whether it lives or die i'm talking about films uh 2001 was made
12:16in 1968 i made this film about four years ago so it's about four years is a zip it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple on on the asshole of humanity what was funny about talking to billy freaking was
12:31that it was he had a man who had struggled a lot in hollywood and started very successfully at a young
12:40age and then gone into sorceress and you know was still traumatized by that experience after so many
12:49years and and i think that was what was so sad in a way that that that it had such an effect on him
12:54it's a little bit like michael cimino doing heaven's gate these amazing films both sorcerers
13:01and heaven's gate are probably their best films for some reason get so destroyed and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves or they lose their confidence and affects all the other movies they make afterwards
13:15and i was like i'm never going to be like that because i'm right you're wrong
13:24i mean i've done two shows one with amazon one with netflix and i like what i was making obviously
13:30but i i don't know how how much i want to continue i may want to take a break and go and make movies
13:40again i've decided to do more visual arts you know and trying to find other areas of creativity
13:51but i think it's time to to go make a film again you said you work on two shows that you work on
13:55the famous five also so the famous five was a television show that i i just how do you say
14:02executive produced or created but i had no involvement in it otherwise i just created the kind of
14:09concept in the story based on these very famous books the famous five was more because my kids
14:14would read the books when they were young i remember my mother reading me the books so it was more like a
14:20past history thing that came up as an opportunity
14:27well i mean if anything if something is interesting you know why not look at it i've had some wonderful
14:32meetings in hollywood met wonderful people but but in the end i like my freedom that's all i really
14:39want is just to be free when you work in hollywood there is a contract some people love that and can
14:46work within that i it's maybe not so much my thing right now but who knows maybe next year i'll do a big
14:54you know big superhero movie uh that could be fun maybe i don't know i'm pretty open to anything but
15:01the same time at the end you should just make what makes you happy it's one thing having creative
15:07control which is easier enough but it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you
15:16because all that money has to get re you know recouped and then you have to make a certain type
15:20of movie you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want because you're you're a slave to the
15:25economics if your film costs 200 million dollars or 100 million dollars you need to make three 400
15:31million dollars to break even that already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make and i
15:37don't want any conditions on me at all you have to be completely free
15:47i mean in the beginning a lot of people were talking about another drive but it was like
15:53that would be the worst idea i've ever heard of so never never
16:05i've been very lucky to live a fun life and it has nothing to do with fame you realize very quickly
16:15it has that i've had opportunities and i've been able to work with people i've met people i've spoken
16:24with people and it's all been a lot of fun but i think when i started the idea of being seen was
16:33very essential to the era of fame and fame being an opportunity it's like an opportunity it's like a stage
16:39one thing is becoming famous the next what are you going to do with it and obviously it's like
16:44anything it's an opportunity
16:46you're playing in the world
16:49you're playing there
16:50you'll be doing a lot of work
16:52I'm talking about anyway
16:53you're playing in the world
16:54I'm talking about it
16:55I'm sorry
16:57we're going to be able to live in Bangkok here for six months
17:00Yang Han is going to have to make the next film and they have to show you
17:03to film in process
17:04it's a cute thing
17:07we're meeting him when he filming
17:09he was filmed
17:10Quand il a fait drive, j'étais chez les enfants chez eux.
17:13J'ai pris 10 mois.
17:16C'était trop difficile d'être avec eux-mêmes.
17:21Ma vie quotidienne est une routine.
17:23Je me réveille, je fais deux heures de sport tous les jours.
17:27J'ai généralement j'ai l'air.
17:30J'ai l'air par mes enfants.
17:33J'ai travaillé à la nuit.
17:35J'ai essayé de ne pas d'aider trop tard.
17:39Et puis, Friday arrive et c'est le week-end.
17:44J'essaye de relaxer un peu et le lendemain est le lendemain.
17:47Tu regardes les films ?
17:48J'ai regardé beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune.
17:52Mais maintenant, c'est plus difficile et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:58J'ai fait mon premier expérience qui s'ouvre à Tokyo.
18:02Ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:15En Tokyo, où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma mère et ma fille dans la procession.
18:24Hé, c'est moi !
18:26J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:31J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:34J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:36J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:38J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:40J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:45J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:47J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
18:52J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
19:00J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
19:04Ok, peut-être que tu peux nous dire quelque chose ?
19:06J'ai fait une expérience qui s'ouvre à la fin de la semaine dernière.
19:22Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
19:52Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada