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When it comes to government-backed small business loans, a little known $14 billion tech-focused bank in North Carolina called Live Oak dominates. Unfortunately Wall Street pays it no respect.

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00:00today on forbes inside america's top small business bank if small business is the beating
00:07heart of the american 30 trillion dollar economy then it might be surprising to find out that the
00:12lifeblood it counts on in the form of funding via loans comes not from wall street's mega banks like
00:18jp morgan wells fargo and bank of america but from a tiny branchless bank in wilmington north carolina
00:25just seven miles from michael jordan's boyhood home founded in 2008 live oak bank shares has 1053
00:34employees 14 billion dollars in assets and a 1.5 billion dollar market capitalization
00:41since 2017 it has issued 15.4 billion dollars in government-backed 7a loans more than any other
00:49bank in the country including the aforementioned wall street heavyweights the 7a program is the
00:54small business administration's flagship offering designed to help small businesses that might not
01:00qualify for conventional credit live oak's average loan is just one million dollars chump change for
01:06bigger brand name competitors but the lender does around two billion dollars a year in sba loans
01:12plus another three billion dollars in conventional small business loans live oak doesn't look or act
01:18like a typical bank and that's the point its 85 acre campus in wilmington is surrounded by long
01:25leaf pines not oaks in a boreal misnomer no one seems bothered by the four main buildings are styled
01:32more like a silicon valley startup than a bank with cypress siding exposed wooden beams and not a marble
01:38column or roll top desk in sight and of course it has the requisite full gym and health clinic on site
01:46rocking chairs line patios that overlook an 8.5 acre retention pond big enough to be mistaken for a
01:52lake one of the only visual clues that this is the south not south of san francisco live oak has no
01:58branches all deposits come in online and while most people think of small business lending as a handshake
02:05deal at the local bank down the street live oak has flipped that on its head it leans on tech instead of
02:11geography with a fintech venture arm called live oak ventures and a track record that includes
02:17spinning out the 3.4 billion dollar market capitalization cloud-based banking software firm
02:23encino that edge in technology helps it approve loans faster which means it can make more of them
02:30the lender does other mission critical tasks differently as well loan officers don't earn
02:35commissions a move designed to avoid conflicts between sales and credit
02:40the bank also doesn't try to be everything to everyone it sticks to industries where it has
02:45subject matter expertise the bank started by lending to veterinarians because its ceo chip
02:50mahan's stepfather is a well-known equine vet today live oak focuses on 35 industry verticals
02:58including home health care funeral homes and auto repair
03:01that deep industry knowledge shows up in the details ryan cave a business broker who runs sunbelt
03:09business brokers of south florida and has been in the business for 20 years says live oak stands out
03:14for pairing domain expertise with practical deal making he's worked with the bank on dozens of
03:20transactions from quick service restaurants to franchises few lenders would touch cave says quote
03:26they're not box checkers they're problem solvers it wasn't until the rise of the internet the mahan
03:33saw an opening to build something entirely new teaming up with his brother-in-law a security
03:38software expert he helped launch the world's first online bank atlanta-based security first network bank
03:44in 1995. the company offered online bill pay basic banking and even stock trading all through a dial-up
03:52connection the bank itself was sold to royal bank of canada in 1998 for 20 million dollars the real
03:59prize though was its technology it spun off a software unit known as s1 corporation which became a major
04:06provider of online banking infrastructure and was acquired by aci worldwide in 2011 for 520 million
04:13dollars in cash and stock mahan had found his playbook use technology to rethink old banking models
04:20for full coverage check out brandon kokoden's piece on forbes.com this is kieran meadows from forbes thanks for tuning in

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