How I Measure Atheists!

Stefan Molyneux

In this episode, I explore my personal moral journey, highlighting the stark contrasts between societal values and actual behaviors, particularly regarding the treatment of children. I share my experiences of neglect and abuse during my childhood, reflecting on how the silence from those aware of my suffering illustrates a troubling apathy towards vulnerable individuals. I analyze the contradictions faced in academic and professional settings, where the pursuit of truth often falters in the face of uncomfortable realities. Furthermore, I critique the atheist community's abandonment of moral integrity when it came to my own struggles, questioning the authenticity of their values. This discussion invites listeners to reflect on the alignment between their proclaimed values and their actions, urging a courageous confrontation with uncomfortable truths in pursuit of justice and integrity.  FOLLOW ME ON X! https://x.com/StefanMolyneux  GET MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING', THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI, AND THE FULL AUDIOBOOK! https://peacefulparenting.com/  Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!  Subscribers get 12 HOURS on the "Truth About the French Revolution," multiple interactive multi-lingual philosophy AIs trained on thousands of hours of my material - as well as AIs for Real-Time Relationships, Bitcoin, Peaceful Parenting, and Call-In Shows!  You also receive private livestreams, HUNDREDS of exclusive premium shows, early release podcasts, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!  See you soon! https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2025

Transcript

00:00Good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well.

00:02Stefan Molyneux from Freedom Man.

00:04So, I was thinking, actually, this morning,

00:08sort of back on my life, and

00:10one of the sort of largest themes of what's been going on in my existence,

00:15conscious or sort of unconscious at the time,

00:18it's this idea that

00:19my whole sort of life has been a constant moral experiment.

00:24It is sort of an empirical

00:25program or, like, process to

00:29see what people in society say

00:32and then see if they do that, right?

00:36Especially, of course, around morals, right?

00:38Especially around morals.

00:40So, when I was growing up, of course,

00:44society and everyone said,

00:46we care about the children,

00:48children are everything,

00:50and

00:51the most important thing, our greatest resource

00:55and all of that.

00:56So, then, I guess,

00:58I listened to what society said,

01:00and I was

01:00curious in my core

01:02as to whether

01:03that's what society

01:06actually did, like, actually lived that way.

01:10And,

01:10no, society doesn't live that way.

01:12Society herds children around.

01:14Society, you know,

01:16hits and beats the majority of children,

01:17yells at them, screams at them,

01:18locks them in these terrible schools,

01:20uses them as

01:21financial instruments

01:23to

01:23have as collateral

01:25so that they can borrow

01:26and spend on themselves

01:27through the power of the state.

01:30And

01:30so, no,

01:32not

01:32not the case,

01:35right?

01:37I went through a lot of violence

01:38as a kid

01:39that was sort of very audible,

01:41lived in sort of

01:42very cheap paper

01:43thin-walled apartments

01:45or flats, of course,

01:46as we called them

01:47in England at the time.

01:48And

01:49nobody

01:50cared,

01:51nobody phoned the cops,

01:52nobody came to my aid,

01:54nobody

01:54an anonymous report,

01:56it was no risk to them

01:57or anything like that.

01:58And this went on

01:59for years and years and years.

02:00And

02:01people

02:02don't care

02:03about

02:05their neighbors

02:07or

02:08children,

02:09you know,

02:10suffering

02:11some pretty extreme violence

02:12like right in their vicinity,

02:14just turned up the TV,

02:15maybe they put on some headphones,

02:17but they didn't care.

02:19I had

02:19on my

02:22father's side

02:23of the family,

02:25they were

02:27very Christian

02:28and

02:30I spent a lot of time

02:31with them,

02:32both

02:32near Wales

02:33and in Ireland.

02:35And

02:36they knew,

02:37of course,

02:37the nature of

02:38my mother's violence,

02:39they knew

02:40who my mother was,

02:41they never once asked me

02:42how I was doing

02:44or if there's anything

02:44I could do.

02:45In fact,

02:46I was left alone

02:47with her

02:48for a couple years

02:49in my early teens,

02:51just me and her.

02:52This is when she was really

02:52going crazy,

02:53ended up being institutionalized.

02:55Nobody phoned

02:55to ask how I was doing.

02:57So,

02:57you know,

02:58this idea that like

02:58family is everything

02:59you do for family,

03:01we care about

03:02our kids,

03:04I assume,

03:05just based upon

03:05the demographics,

03:06that most

03:07of the people,

03:08and this

03:09did facilitate

03:10my exit

03:11from Christianity,

03:14it's an interesting

03:14way to put it,

03:15but anyway,

03:16the people

03:17who were

03:18around me

03:21were Christians

03:22and

03:23they didn't

03:25lift a finger

03:25to

03:26do anything

03:28to counter

03:29an obvious evil.

03:30I mean,

03:31it wasn't like

03:31we were at a farm

03:32in the middle of nowhere,

03:32right?

03:33Like,

03:33right in the middle

03:33of the city,

03:34right in the middle

03:34of a whole bunch

03:35of apartment buildings,

03:36like right in the

03:36apartment buildings.

03:38And,

03:39my whole childhood,

03:40I sailed through

03:40with this violence

03:41and so on.

03:43No one did anything,

03:44nobody asked

03:45about anything,

03:47nobody

03:47got any

03:49authorities involved.

03:50Now,

03:51of course,

03:51you may say,

03:51well,

03:51the authorities

03:52wouldn't have helped

03:52in any particular way,

03:54but that's not what

03:55people's general

03:55perception was,

03:56right?

03:57People's general

03:57perception was that

03:58the authorities

03:59would be helpful

03:59in these kinds of

04:00situations and so on.

04:03And,

04:03I think the only time

04:06the cops showed up

04:06at my place

04:07was when my mother

04:08called them once

04:08because I yelled back

04:10and they just gave me

04:11a lecture on

04:12trying to understand

04:13my mother better.

04:17So,

04:18that's the,

04:18I mean,

04:18that's the reality.

04:19Oh,

04:20it's my lived experience.

04:21But it's a lived experience

04:22in

04:23three different continents,

04:27three different continents.

04:29Thousands of people

04:30had direct or indirect

04:32knowledge of

04:33what happened to me

04:34over,

04:34nobody,

04:35and just even

04:36in the years since,

04:37like I went public

04:37with what I suffered

04:38as a child

04:39and nobody's

04:39called me up

04:40from my past

04:41and said,

04:41oh boy,

04:41you know,

04:42I really felt bad

04:42but I didn't do it

04:43because of X,

04:44Y,

04:44and Z

04:44or I thought about

04:45nothing,

04:46nothing.

04:47People don't care.

04:48And that's the state

04:49of the world

04:50as it is

04:51after 2,000 years

04:52of Christianity.

04:55Right?

04:57You can't wish it away.

04:59You can't unsee it.

05:00You can't tell me

05:02I'm wrong.

05:03That is a pretty

05:05important experiment

05:06to live through,

05:08to go through.

05:10And you can't look at,

05:13like if you've been,

05:14particularly if you've been

05:14mistreated as a child,

05:16you can't look at

05:18the world

05:19and think that it's good.

05:20Not because there were

05:21people who mistreated you

05:22as a child,

05:23but because nobody

05:23does anything about it.

05:25Nobody asks,

05:25nobody questions,

05:26nobody brings in resources.

05:27You know,

05:28I would go to school,

05:29you know,

05:29hungry,

05:31tired,

05:32because my mother

05:33would keep me up

05:33all night,

05:34and I would just

05:36get lectured about,

05:37well,

05:38if effort matched ability,

05:39you'd be an A+.

05:40Why are you lazy?

05:41Why don't you do your work?

05:42Nobody asked.

05:43How are things at home?

05:44What's going on?

05:46Maybe that's changed now.

05:47Right?

05:47This is obviously

05:48quite a while ago,

05:50but

05:50that's the reality

05:53of the world.

05:54Now,

05:54that's the reality

05:54of

05:555,000 years

05:58of moral philosophy,

06:00of Christianity,

06:01and that is the result,

06:02that children can be

06:03tortured and beaten

06:04and screamed at,

06:06toppled along screaming,

06:07in an environment

06:08with

06:08dozens of people around

06:10in families.

06:12I went to a variety

06:13of different schools.

06:14I lived in a variety

06:15of different neighborhoods.

06:16I went to government school.

06:17I went to private school.

06:18I lived in,

06:20well,

06:21I spent summers in Ireland.

06:22I lived in England,

06:24of course,

06:24until I was 11.

06:25I spent a lot of time

06:26in Africa

06:26because my father was there

06:28and I lived in Canada

06:30and nothing.

06:32Nothing.

06:34Like,

06:35that's the reality.

06:36You can't wish it away.

06:37I mean,

06:37I can't wish it away.

06:38Maybe you can.

06:39I don't want to wish it away.

06:40Now,

06:41then,

06:42of course,

06:42you know,

06:42in school

06:43you were told

06:45that

06:46the truth matters,

06:48right?

06:48The truth matters.

06:49But then,

06:50of course,

06:50if you bring up

06:50inconvenient truths,

06:52sorry,

06:52Mr. Gore,

06:53if you bring up

06:54inconvenient truths,

06:55the teachers just get mad at you,

06:56right?

06:57So,

06:58it doesn't matter,

06:58right?

07:02In university,

07:03of course,

07:05if,

07:06well,

07:07I mean,

07:07I did an English degree

07:08and I would talk about,

07:09you know,

07:09the free market

07:10and voluntary solutions

07:11to social problems

07:12and point out that,

07:14you know,

07:14government solutions

07:15are based upon

07:16coercion,

07:17right?

07:18The law is an opinion

07:18with a gun

07:19in most cases.

07:20So,

07:21people said,

07:22well,

07:22we want the truth

07:23and we want,

07:23we like peaceful solutions,

07:24we don't like violence

07:25and so on

07:26and then you'd point out

07:27that people who want

07:28a lot of government action

07:29are kind of addicted

07:30to coercion

07:31and they get mad,

07:32right?

07:32And then,

07:33of course,

07:33I remember when I first learned

07:35that I was born into,

07:38I don't know what the numbers

07:39were back then,

07:39but now it's well over

07:40a million dollars in debt

07:42because

07:43elder generations

07:45had overspent

07:46and demanded

07:46things from the government

07:47the government couldn't afford

07:48and the only way

07:49you could get elected

07:50would be to

07:51steal from the unborn.

07:53Man,

07:53that's some

07:53silver-fingered pickpocketing

07:55to steal from people

07:57who aren't even a glimmer

07:57in their daddy's eye yet,

07:58but now when I learned

08:00about that,

08:00of course,

08:01I was like,

08:02wait,

08:03what?

08:05All of these

08:06freaking boomers

08:07who have been spent

08:08their entire life

08:09lecturing me on

08:10responsibility

08:11and hard work

08:12and

08:12owning up to my actions

08:15and doing the right thing,

08:17they've actually

08:17stolen a million dollars

08:19from me

08:19before I could even

08:21get a job?

08:23Holy,

08:25unholy,

08:26I mean,

08:27that's just reality.

08:28That's just the reality.

08:30I went to

08:30theater school

08:31and when they found out

08:33about my politics,

08:34they turned on me

08:34pretty viciously.

08:36I mean,

08:36in Canada,

08:37of course,

08:3890% of artists

08:39survive on

08:40pillaged government money,

08:42so

08:42free market

08:43would not do them

08:45very much good,

08:46at least in the short run.

08:48And then,

08:49of course,

08:49I took a history degree,

08:51a graduate degree,

08:53and everyone's like,

08:54well,

08:54you know,

08:55the truth is important

08:56and we're here to

08:56find the truth,

08:57and I said,

08:58bring the truth,

08:58and they'd get mad.

09:01They'd get mad.

09:03So it's all

09:03a lie,

09:05it's all nonsense.

09:06I skip over the business stuff.

09:08I was in the business world

09:09for many years,

09:09and I'll just

09:10fast forward here,

09:11so I don't want to make

09:11this huge long thing here,

09:13but

09:13for the atheists,

09:15right,

09:16I mean,

09:16I was in the atheists,

09:17in and around the atheist community

09:18for many,

09:18many years.

09:19Millions and millions of atheists

09:21have listened to my show

09:21over the last

09:2220 years,

09:24and

09:25atheists say,

09:26right,

09:26what do atheists say?

09:28Well,

09:29we're all about the truth,

09:30you see.

09:31We're all about the truth.

09:33The atheists say,

09:34it is not true

09:36that God exists.

09:38It's false that God,

09:39the proposition that God exists

09:40is false,

09:40because we're all about the truth,

09:42and the truth is so important

09:44that you should give up

09:45the moral

09:47commandments of your ancestors.

09:50You should give up

09:51the comfort of everlasting life.

09:53You should give up

09:54the comfort of being reunited

09:55with loved ones.

09:56You should give up

09:56the comfort

09:57that your suffering

09:58will be rewarded

09:59in an eternity of bliss.

10:02You should give up

10:03everything.

10:04You should give up

10:05immortality,

10:06because

10:07God is not real.

10:10So you must sacrifice

10:11the entire

10:13moral

10:14and metaphysical

10:16worldview

10:16of your ancestors.

10:182,000 years

10:19of moral development

10:20must be

10:21cast aside,

10:22because it's not

10:23true.

10:24And this brings

10:25a lot of suffering

10:27to the religious.

10:30But the atheists say,

10:32but it's not true,

10:35and your suffering

10:37is not important.

10:38It's not that important.

10:39You should just

10:40focus on what is true.

10:43It doesn't matter

10:44if it makes you suffer.

10:46The truth

10:46is worth it.

10:47You should live in reality.

10:49You should not believe.

10:50What do they call it?

10:50Sky Daddy fairy tales,

10:51all this kind of stuff, right?

10:52So,

10:53so,

10:54it's not true

10:55the immense suffering

10:57that you go through

10:58when I tell you

11:00these things aren't true,

11:01and you can't argue against it

11:02or you believe

11:03what I say.

11:05That suffering,

11:05suffering for the cause

11:06of truth,

11:07is super,

11:08super,

11:08super important.

11:09So,

11:09I'm going to ask you

11:10all these tough questions

11:11and if you suffer,

11:13then,

11:14well,

11:15that's,

11:16it's not my fault

11:17that,

11:17you know,

11:17people told you things

11:18that weren't true.

11:19All this kind of

11:19tough guy stuff.

11:20And that's fine.

11:21That's fine.

11:23So,

11:23then,

11:23of course,

11:23when I ask tough questions

11:24of atheists,

11:25they should welcome it

11:26because they've kind of lived

11:27asking tough questions

11:28of others.

11:28So,

11:29when I ask tough questions

11:29of atheists,

11:30they should,

11:31say,

11:32wow,

11:32you know,

11:32that's,

11:33I guess I've spent my career

11:34asking tough questions

11:35of others.

11:36So,

11:37it's fine to be asked

11:39tough questions,

11:39but they don't.

11:40They just kind of get mad

11:41and verbal abuse,

11:44bag on Christians,

11:46rage quit,

11:46you know,

11:47all this kind of stuff,

11:47right?

11:50It's not really

11:50the worst of it.

11:51So,

11:52my experience,

11:53you know,

11:54I'm,

11:54I'm Steph the White,

11:56super white,

11:57because I came back

11:58from my half decade

11:59in the wilderness

12:00and

12:02I came back

12:04with a certain knowledge.

12:07This knowledge

12:08cannot be undone.

12:09You can't argue me

12:10out of it.

12:10You can't tell me

12:11that I'm wrong

12:11because I know.

12:13And the knowledge

12:14that I came back with

12:15was actually

12:16quite simple.

12:17I was de-platformed

12:21because people

12:22lied about me.

12:23This is when people say,

12:25well,

12:25lying is inefficient.

12:26Lying doesn't work.

12:26It's like,

12:27bro,

12:27the vast majority

12:29of my life's work

12:30was erased

12:31on falsehoods,

12:33right?

12:36So,

12:36sorry,

12:37it is funny.

12:38It's been so long now

12:39and I got so much

12:40good stuff out of

12:41those five years

12:42that I'm not

12:43complaining about it.

12:44I'm simply pointing out

12:45the absolute

12:46epistemological

12:47branded in

12:49to my spinal cord

12:50reality

12:51of the last five years.

12:53So,

12:54the atheists say

12:55the truth is important.

12:56Telling the truth

12:57is important.

12:58Your discomfort

12:59is not that important

13:00which means that

13:01they,

13:01obviously,

13:02atheists would be

13:02willing to endure

13:03discomfort

13:04in order

13:05to

13:07speak the truth.

13:09Endure discomfort

13:10to speak the truth.

13:11Now,

13:12quick question.

13:13Millions of atheists

13:14listen to my show

13:14over the last

13:16twenty years.

13:18Atheists say

13:19the truth is essential

13:21regardless of

13:23personal discomfort.

13:25How did atheists

13:25respond

13:26to my unjustly

13:27platforming

13:28based upon

13:28falsehoods?

13:35My whole life

13:36is a moral experiment

13:37to see if people

13:39have integrity

13:40to what they say.

13:42You must tell the truth.

13:43the truth is much

13:44more important

13:44than any personal

13:45discomfort.

13:46Well,

13:47atheists knew,

13:47of course,

13:48that what was talked

13:49about with regards

13:50to me

13:50were falsehoods.

13:54And I was

13:55unjustly de-platformed.

13:56How did they respond?

14:03Come on.

14:04We know this.

14:05We know.

14:06How did they respond?

14:08They vanished.

14:15They ran away.

14:17They did not stand

14:18with me.

14:19They did not stand

14:19by me.

14:20They did not invite

14:20me on their shows.

14:21They did not.

14:21I mean,

14:22I've actually done

14:22shows with

14:23atheists,

14:24strong atheists,

14:25knew that I was

14:26unjustly de-platformed.

14:28The truth is important

14:29regardless of your

14:30personal

14:30emotional difficulties

14:33with it.

14:33Okay,

14:35so,

14:35lies were told

14:36about me,

14:37somebody that they,

14:37you know,

14:38had some respect for

14:39and millions had

14:40interacted.

14:41Did I get

14:41email messages?

14:43Even if you just

14:44want to create

14:45an anonymous account,

14:46say it's totally wrong,

14:47I'm so sorry,

14:47blah, blah, blah.

14:49Did I get

14:50any messages?

14:52Did I get

14:52any invites to shows?

14:54Did I get

14:54any articles written

14:55about how unjust

14:56and wrong

14:57it all was?

14:57Because remember,

14:59the truth is

15:00important.

15:01It doesn't matter

15:02if it upsets you

15:03personally,

15:03it doesn't matter

15:04if it's difficult

15:04emotionally,

15:05the truth is

15:05essential.

15:09So,

15:10of course,

15:11when I go

15:11to atheists

15:13and I say,

15:14hey,

15:14what are your

15:15reasons for

15:15telling the truth?

15:17Did you tell

15:18the truth about

15:18what was said

15:20about me

15:21that was false?

15:25I mean,

15:26you understand

15:26the basic principle

15:27is they

15:27deplatform

15:28some pretty

15:29horrible people,

15:30which I don't

15:30agree with.

15:30I'm a free speech

15:31absolutist.

15:32They deplatform

15:33pretty horrible

15:33people so that

15:34when they

15:34deplatform

15:35people who

15:35aren't horrible,

15:36they get mixed

15:36into the same

15:37vat of vitriol,

15:40right?

15:41So,

15:42yeah,

15:42how did

15:43our good friends

15:45the atheists do

15:46when a prominent

15:48atheist was

15:49deplatformed

15:50for lies?

15:52Did they say,

15:52well,

15:53you know,

15:53we've made

15:54a lot of

15:55Christians,

15:55we've made,

15:56you know,

15:56hundreds of

15:58millions of

15:59Christians

15:59uncomfortable

15:59over the

16:00decades with

16:01our very

16:01tough questions,

16:02but we've

16:02told them

16:03you must

16:03stand for

16:05the truth

16:05no matter

16:06what.

16:08Oh,

16:08a prominent

16:08atheist is being

16:09lied about?

16:10I wish I could

16:12do this

16:12Homer Simpson

16:13disappear into

16:14the hedges

16:14behind me,

16:15but,

16:16yeah,

16:17I mean,

16:17that's just

16:18the reality.

16:19So,

16:20the

16:20manathists come

16:21and say,

16:21well,

16:21you know,

16:21I guess I was

16:22just raised

16:22better than

16:23you,

16:23I guess I

16:23just value

16:24the truth

16:24more than

16:25you do,

16:25I guess I

16:25just have

16:26better morals

16:26than you

16:27do.

16:30Come on,

16:31come on.

16:33Stop

16:33lobbing as a

16:34moral hero.

16:35I mean,

16:35just stop it.

16:36I don't mean

16:37this with any

16:38contempt,

16:38I don't mean

16:38this with any

16:39hatred,

16:40but you have

16:40to have a

16:41clear-eyed

16:41view of

16:42who you

16:42are and

16:43who you

16:43aren't,

16:44right?

16:46If you're

16:47fat,

16:47but you

16:48think you

16:48have abs,

16:49you're not

16:49going to

16:49lose weight.

16:52If you're

16:53cowardly,

16:54but think

16:55you're brave,

16:56you can't

16:56get braver.

16:57You can't

16:58get the

16:58virtue-courage

16:59if you think

16:59you're already

17:00courageous.

17:05So,

17:06when the

17:07atheists say

17:07to me,

17:08well,

17:08I know,

17:09I know,

17:10I tell the

17:11truth,

17:11and I have

17:11morals,

17:12and I have

17:12virtues,

17:13and it's

17:13good for

17:14society,

17:14and it's

17:15good socially,

17:15it's like,

17:16okay,

17:16then why

17:16didn't you

17:17tell the

17:17truth about

17:17the lies

17:19told about

17:19me?

17:21Millions of

17:22you knew

17:22about it,

17:23or hundreds

17:24of thousands.

17:27I mean,

17:28I had a

17:28combined,

17:29you know,

17:30close to

17:30two million

17:31set of

17:32followers.

17:33At that time,

17:33I was

17:34deplatformed.

17:34I had

17:34three-quarters

17:35of a billion

17:36views and

17:36downloads,

17:37so I

17:37don't think

17:38it's that

17:38unfair to

17:39say that

17:40millions of

17:40atheists knew

17:41about me,

17:41and my

17:42deplatforming

17:42was kind

17:45of talked

17:45about,

17:46and they

17:47all just

17:47despawned.

17:53they went

17:53to the

17:54back

17:54rooms,

17:55and they

17:58didn't even

17:58send me

17:58anonymous

17:59messages of

17:59support,

18:00which is

18:02fine,

18:02it's fine,

18:04and it's

18:04data,

18:05and it's

18:07a whole lot

18:08of data.

18:09Now,

18:09Christians were

18:10actually quite

18:11kind.

18:11Christians were

18:12actually,

18:13you know,

18:13hey, we

18:14know what it

18:14is to be

18:14persecuted,

18:15man,

18:15and blah,

18:16blah,

18:16right?

18:16I mean,

18:22I have

18:22empirical

18:23evidence

18:23that,

18:25empirical,

18:26direct

18:26personal

18:26evidence

18:27that

18:28Christians

18:32behaved

18:33infinitely

18:35better

18:35than

18:37atheists

18:37when it

18:38came to

18:40upholding

18:40the truth

18:41or providing

18:42sympathy for

18:42somebody who

18:43was being

18:43unjustly

18:44persecuted.

18:44you can't

18:49undo that

18:50knowledge in

18:50me,

18:51and it

18:51wasn't,

18:52it wasn't

18:54two to

18:54one.

18:56It really

18:56wasn't two

18:57to one,

18:57five to

18:58one,

18:58ten to

18:58one.

18:59It was

19:00a lot

19:01to,

19:02I mean,

19:02I'm thinking

19:03zero.

19:05I'm thinking

19:06zero.

19:14So,

19:14as far

19:16as personal

19:16integrity,

19:17upholding

19:17the truth

19:18despite

19:18emotional

19:18discomfort,

19:19I mean,

19:19morals are

19:20not for

19:20what you

19:20want to

19:21do,

19:21morals are

19:21what you

19:22don't

19:22want to

19:22do,

19:23right?

19:24Diet

19:24is for

19:24things you

19:25shouldn't

19:26eat,

19:27or things

19:27you don't

19:27want to

19:28eat,

19:28but you

19:28should.

19:29Exercise

19:30regimes are

19:30for when

19:31you don't

19:31want to

19:31exercise,

19:32right?

19:32Discipline

19:32is required

19:33for the

19:33things you

19:34don't

19:34want to

19:34do.

19:35This

19:35is

19:35why

19:36with

19:37the

19:37atheists,

19:38if they

19:38say,

19:38well,

19:38I just

19:38don't

19:38like

19:39lying,

19:39I don't

19:40like

19:40lies,

19:40and

19:40liars

19:41never

19:41prosper,

19:41it's like,

19:42bro,

19:42you're

19:42talking to

19:43a guy

19:43whose

19:44life work

19:44was erased

19:45because of

19:46lies,

19:47and very

19:47successful

19:48lies,

19:48you're

19:48literally

19:49talking to

19:49a guy

19:49whose

19:50life

19:50works

19:50through

19:51lies,

19:52saying,

19:52well,

19:52lies don't

19:53work,

19:53man,

19:53lies are

19:53impractical.

19:56Again,

19:57I'm not saying

19:57everybody needs

19:59to know my

19:59history,

20:00but I think

20:00most people

20:00do.

20:01I think

20:01most people

20:02do.

20:03So,

20:04yeah,

20:05I mean,

20:05this is the

20:05thing,

20:06right?

20:06As you

20:06get older,

20:08I mean,

20:09particularly if

20:09you have a

20:10sort of

20:10moral,

20:11a real

20:11moral

20:12backbone,

20:12I mean,

20:13obviously I've

20:13got my

20:13flaws,

20:14I've got my

20:14faults,

20:14I've got my

20:15peccadilloes,

20:16but I've

20:16never disavowed

20:18anything I

20:18know to be

20:19true,

20:20and I

20:21have talked

20:22about things

20:23that are

20:23true,

20:23that are

20:24really important

20:25to society,

20:25that are

20:26very

20:26controversial,

20:27you know,

20:28I think,

20:30you know,

20:30if anything,

20:31I fall a

20:32little bit on

20:32foolhardiness,

20:33which is an

20:34excess of

20:34courage,

20:34and that's a

20:35fault,

20:35that's a

20:35flaw,

20:36I'm not

20:36saying this,

20:36humblebrag,

20:37look how,

20:38but I

20:39fools rush in

20:40where angels

20:40fear to tread,

20:41I definitely

20:41have that

20:42fault to a

20:42degree,

20:43I'm working

20:44on it,

20:44and actually

20:46one of my

20:46characters,

20:47I wrote a

20:47book in my

20:48early 20s

20:49called Just

20:50Poor,

20:51you can get

20:52it at

20:52freedomain.com

20:53slash books,

20:54and one of

20:55the characters

20:56who's old

20:56and wise

20:57says to a

20:59young person

21:00who tells

21:01truths that

21:03are very

21:03dangerous,

21:05he says,

21:05the truth

21:06is not a

21:06sword to

21:07be drawn

21:07at all

21:08costs.

21:10Should have

21:11listened to

21:11old nodded

21:12Bob,

21:13but I

21:15mean,

21:15I did what

21:16I did

21:17before love

21:18came to

21:18town,

21:19so yeah,

21:21I mean,

21:21I have my

21:21faults and

21:22flaws,

21:22but as far

21:24as courage

21:24goes,

21:25you know,

21:26not bad,

21:26again,

21:27a bit too

21:27much,

21:28a bit too

21:29cocky,

21:29that's all

21:30right,

21:30I mean,

21:31I didn't

21:32go bored

21:32by having

21:33low

21:33testosterone,

21:33so I

21:35would say

21:36that when

21:38I asked

21:39atheists,

21:39what reasons

21:40do you

21:40have to

21:41not lie,

21:42and they

21:43say,

21:43well,

21:44we have

21:44all these

21:44reasons to

21:46tell the

21:47truth,

21:47we have

21:47all these

21:48reasons to

21:49not lie,

21:51then of

21:51course my

21:52question is,

21:53so when

21:54lies took

21:54me down,

21:55where were

21:56you?

21:56if the

22:02truth is so

22:02important,

22:02millions of

22:03you knew

22:03about me,

22:04you knew

22:04that it

22:04was unjust,

22:06where were

22:07you?

22:09You Homer

22:10Simpson

22:10hedged,

22:11you were in

22:12a hedge fund

22:12called

22:13Yellow,

22:14so,

22:15I mean,

22:16you can't

22:17undo this

22:19amount of

22:20data,

22:21these are

22:21facts,

22:22now,

22:22I don't say

22:23this with

22:24any hostility,

22:25any contempt,

22:25I don't even

22:26say this with

22:26any disrespect,

22:27it's just

22:28that as

22:28atheists,

22:30yeah,

22:31value the

22:31truth,

22:32and the

22:32truth is,

22:34you don't

22:34really value

22:34the truth,

22:35you value

22:35comfort,

22:36right,

22:36this is why

22:36I kept

22:37responding to

22:37people on

22:38these threads

22:38saying,

22:39well,

22:39you're just

22:39hedonists,

22:40you're just

22:42hedonists,

22:43because when

22:44it became,

22:47well,

22:47I couldn't

22:47say again,

22:48send me an

22:48anonymous email

22:49saying I'm

22:50so sorry,

22:51blah,

22:51it's not

22:53a lot to

22:54ask,

22:54didn't matter,

22:55right?

22:55So,

22:56yeah,

22:56you don't

22:57value the

22:57truth,

22:58you don't

22:59value justice,

23:00really,

23:00and that's

23:05fine,

23:05I mean,

23:06that is in

23:07accordance with

23:07evolution,

23:08right?

23:08Evolution says do

23:09what is best for

23:09your survival,

23:10and it could

23:11have been risky

23:11to publicly

23:11support me back

23:12in the day,

23:13I get it,

23:14I understand,

23:14I sympathize,

23:15I'm not even

23:16mad at you,

23:17I'm just

23:17pointing it out,

23:19that then when

23:19you say we,

23:20it's hypocritical

23:22to say to

23:22Christians you

23:23should accept

23:24the truth even

23:25though it makes

23:25you suffer

23:26enormously,

23:27and then refuse

23:28to even send

23:29an anonymous

23:30email of

23:30support when

23:31someone is

23:32treated unjustly,

23:34you just

23:40gotta look in

23:40the mirror and

23:41see who you

23:41are,

23:43unadorned,

23:45no vanity,

23:47no pomposity,

23:48and look,

23:48I'm not perfect

23:49at this,

23:50obviously,

23:50it's a lifelong

23:51project,

23:52but it's a

23:53really important

23:53project,

23:54and I'm just

23:55holding up a

23:56mirror,

23:56these are the

23:57facts,

23:58and you don't

23:58have these

23:59facts,

23:59right?

24:00I have these

24:00facts,

24:01because I

24:01went through

24:02it,

24:03so this is

24:05who you are,

24:06you failed

24:09to support

24:09someone who

24:10was being

24:11unjustly

24:12attacked,

24:13because it

24:14was uncomfortable,

24:15because you

24:15didn't care,

24:16because it

24:16was inconvenient,

24:17because it

24:17was potentially

24:18upsetting,

24:18so you did

24:21not uphold

24:21the truth

24:22because it

24:22was upsetting

24:23to you,

24:24or you were

24:24afraid of it,

24:25and then you

24:26tell Christians

24:26you should let

24:27go of 2,000

24:28years of moral

24:29history and

24:30immortality and

24:33reuniting with

24:33loved ones and

24:34so on,

24:35comfort in the

24:36face of death

24:36and illness and

24:37suffering.

24:38Well,

24:40you're not what

24:43you think you

24:44are.

24:45I'm sorry to

24:45tell you,

24:46you're just,

24:46you're not who

24:47you think you

24:47are.

24:49And you pick

24:49the easy fights,

24:50not the

24:51difficult fights.

24:52You don't

24:53value the

24:53truth,

24:54you value

24:54dominance,

24:56and when you're

24:57asked tough

24:57questions and

24:59you get tough

25:00data,

25:00and I recognize

25:01this is tough

25:01data,

25:01and I sympathize

25:02with it,

25:02it's tough to

25:03go through that

25:03dark midnight of

25:04the soul when

25:05you say,

25:05gee,

25:07am I living up

25:08to that which I

25:10claim is the

25:10good?

25:11Easy to talk

25:12about the good.

25:13I can say the

25:14word diet,

25:14diet,

25:14diet over and

25:15over again,

25:16muscle,

25:17it doesn't

25:17change anything,

25:18right?

25:18You can say,

25:18say,

25:18words are cheap,

25:19right?

25:20Deeds are

25:20expensive.

25:24You are

25:25measured by

25:26what you do.

25:27Your conscience

25:28measures you,

25:29if you have

25:29one,

25:30by what you

25:31do,

25:31not what you

25:31say.

25:34So I say to

25:35atheists,

25:35I ask atheists,

25:36did your

25:36words match

25:38your values?

25:41Did you do

25:42one,

25:43one hundred

25:44thousandth of

25:45that which you

25:46demand of

25:46Christians when

25:46it came to

25:47telling the

25:48truth?

25:50No.

25:52So,

25:52sorry,

25:53atheism,

25:53you're not

25:54enough yet.

25:54You're not

25:55enough and you

25:55need to start

25:56working on

25:56that.

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