00:00First of all, we are here to talk about Kargil's story, which we are listening to today.
00:09We are here to talk about two para commander, which is Bhagodhi Prasad and Bhikram Khatriji.
00:15They are both of them, and they came to Kargil's story in an operation of a mehathpun operation and they came to talk about it.
00:23First of all, I want to go to you when you were filled with the army.
00:28Your name is Vikram Singh Khatri.
00:31In 1993, I joined the army in 1993.
00:34And the 9-pera commando is my unit.
00:38Our unit was our main unit.
00:44The other is our JNK operation.
00:48My name is Bhagwati Prasad.
00:56In 1994, I joined the army in 1997.
01:03Our unit is in Udhampur.
01:07I left the army in 1999.
01:12What was the whole life of the Kargil?
01:16Both of us.
01:17In 1997, we stayed in 1997.
01:20We stayed in one unit.
01:22We stayed in one day.
01:24We stayed in hospital.
01:26We retired here.
01:28We also retired here.
01:30We will be retired here.
01:32We will be in one time.
01:34We fought for the insurgency.
01:36We fought in Kupwara.
01:38In the units, we knew that this was going to happen.
01:42That we will go to Kargil.
01:44So, Kargil is ready for the Kargil.
01:46We stayed in the village sector.
01:48In the village sector, in the village sector,
01:50in the village sector...
01:52In Kupwara, you told us how many years ago?
01:54In June?
01:55Yes, in June.
01:57Okay.
01:58In June.
01:59What was the name of the Kargil?
02:02It was just the name of the Kargil.
02:05It was just the name of the Kargil.
02:06There was a name of the Kargil.
02:08There was a name of the Kargil.
02:10We didn't know.
02:11We didn't know that there was a fight.
02:13The main force was the main force.
02:15It was a very unique work.
02:17You had to think that you had to take your bag
02:21and go to your village.
02:23So, we went there.
02:25From Kupwara.
02:26From Kupwara.
02:27From Kupwara.
02:28From Kupwara.
02:29Yes, if we moved.
02:30Yes, we moved.
02:31We are prepared for the fight for 24 hours.
02:33All the equipment and the ammunition are in the village.
02:37Sometimes we have to have some order.
02:38From the helicopter or the car.
02:41We were able to go to Kupwara.
02:43Then we said that we have to go to the Kargil.
02:46There is a operation.
02:48So, we went there and we went there.
02:49So, if we go here, then we have a stander top of our Markopol Nala, in the draft sector.
02:57Yes, in the draft sector.
02:59You have told us that you have to be agmatized there.
03:02Yes, we have given a few days.
03:03There is a few days.
03:04There is a few days in the draft sector.
03:06In the draft sector, there is a markopol Nala.
03:09So, we have reached the draft sector to markopol Nala.
03:12In the draft sector, there was a briefing in the 29th night.
03:19In the 29th night, we went to Markopol Nala.
03:22This is the place where you have told us the task.
03:24Yes, in the Markopol Nala, there was a briefing.
03:27We have given the main mother base of Pakistan.
03:30It is on the stander top of the opposite side.
03:33And we have to break it.
03:35We have to break it.
03:36So, we have to break it.
03:38It is on the right side.
03:39It is on the right side.
03:40It's on the right side.
03:41We have to break it.
03:42So, we have to break it.
03:43To protect an attack.
03:44Until we will do the right side,
03:46who will be executed.
03:47By her ammunition, when her ammunition is fast,
03:49will not be able to do anything further.
03:52So, we have to break it.
03:53In the 29th night
03:56It was on the right side of the front.
03:58It is on the right side of the front.
03:59A nice side of the front part.
04:00In the 29th night,
04:01I have to remember when you go to Markopol Nala.
04:03I was told you that
04:05you see there.
04:06foreign
04:20foreign
04:36It was so new, but we didn't think that we are a refugee, we thought that we are a refugee.
04:46But when we went there, we would go all night.
04:51One place was such a place where we had to go from the road.
04:54And at 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock, there was another truck.
05:01There was another truck that took us from the road to the road.
05:08We had a message from the road to the road to the road to the road.
05:15At 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock, there was a whole day.
05:20At 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock, we were told that we were sitting there.
05:26We were taking our troops from the way down in front of each other and taking the risk of the road to the road.
05:33At 4 o'clock at 4 o'clock, there was no damage needed.
05:36Airっぱ Shanm, 3-4 o'clock, they worked, they simply did not residents of their own.
05:38They continued.
05:40Then the two sides came.
05:42There were red and Geld.
05:44There were 8 young people who were just sitting behind those 8 young people.
05:51There were 2 young people who were children.
05:55There was no clue about it.
05:58No, we had seen it.
06:00We had to leave all the young people.
06:02We didn't know what happened.
06:05There was a lot of selling from both sides.
06:08They went from there and came from there.
06:11We were leaving the selling.
06:14We were leaving between 2 days.
06:16We were leaving some food.
06:19When they came from there, what happened?
06:21Where did it come from?
06:23We were losing 2 days.
06:26But we crossed the same way.
06:29The same thing was hard.
06:31We turned the same way.
06:33We had to run the road.
06:36After that, we crossed the same way.
06:40It was a very good time.
06:46We crossed all the time at 4 am.
06:51We crossed all the young people.
06:53After that we had no movement.
06:56In the beginning of 4 am?
07:00No.
07:01We were happy.
07:04We thought there was no more movement.
07:08you can get injured, no 1-2-1-1-3-1-2-1-4-1-2-1-2-1-2-2-1-2-1-3-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-3-4-1-3-4-1-3-1-2-1-2-1-2-2-1-3-2-1-2-1-3-1.
07:38We have no movement in the day.
07:40If there is no movement in the day,
07:42we will not do anything in the day.
07:44Yes, they can do it there.
07:46If someone has a moment,
07:48they have a moment that they have a moment.
07:50That's why we were always looking at
07:52that you will not do anything in the day.
07:54In the morning,
07:56when the night is going to be a moment,
07:58we will do a moment.
08:00Our plan was to complete the night
08:02and how the night will be a moment.
08:04As you will be able to cross the night
08:06and you will go to the night.
08:08What happened in the day?
08:10What happened in the day?
08:12What happened in the day?
08:14In the morning,
08:16we had everything we ate in the morning.
08:18After that,
08:20there was no water in the day.
08:22There was no water in the day.
08:24Why? I will do a moment.
08:26That's why we didn't do anything.
08:28It was just that
08:30they went to the morning,
08:32and they went to the morning.
08:34the night.
08:36Anyways,
08:37it was a prayer,
08:39an enemy.
08:40So,
08:41if someone went to yourself,
08:42then it would take the distancinguffle.
08:43They were out,
08:44people were out.
08:45They were out.
08:47If they came to that maybe
08:48somewhere,
08:50some people were out here.
08:50But we came to the mother-in-law.
08:51They did too bad at night.
08:53We were out.
08:54There was ね mudliblity,
08:55and some people were out and dead.
08:56How would that eye?
08:57The curtain was so
08:59beautiful.
08:59The door was TEAM.
09:00There was a drink.
09:02First, we didn't understand what happened.
09:04It felt like it was a night.
09:06It was all night.
09:08Then, when I saw a little bit,
09:10someone fell down and fell down.
09:12Then, I said to them,
09:14Bhagwati said,
09:16yes, you're okay, but I didn't.
09:18I was scared.
09:20Then, I was scared.
09:22I was scared.
09:24Then, I didn't know anything.
09:26Then, I went to Sinagar Waste Hospital.
09:28After that, I listened to the story
09:30of Bhagwati ji.
09:32When he came to the sky,
09:34the fire came up.
09:36After you both,
09:38the fire came up.
09:40How was that?
09:42We stood in a troop for 10 people.
09:44We stood there as a troop.
09:46We stood there, and we stood there.
09:48We stood there.
09:50We stood there as a troop.
09:52We stood there as a troop.
09:54We stood there as a fire.
09:56After that, we fell down.
09:58Then, after all, people started running and running.
10:04So, I also tried to run and I was trying to run.
10:11I thought, here, this is my way.
10:16Somebody had a pet or something.
10:20I asked, what happened?
10:21Then, she said, what happened?
10:23I thought, that there is no way.
10:27I said what happened, I said what happened, I saw the entire wall.
10:32Then I said, what happened.
10:36I said, the floor is falling.
10:38I said, I have to go up and go down.
10:40I said, I can't run.
10:42I said, I can't run.
10:44I said, I can't run.
10:46Then I went away.
10:48I said, Bhagavati is alive.
10:50So I said, what happened, he was alive.
10:52Then I said, what happened.
10:54Okay, I was born here.
11:06Yes.
11:07Everyone is loose.
11:10They are sitting between 24 and 12 hours and they were all loose.
11:16The other troops came there and said, we both were sitting there.
11:21I said, this is a living. I said, this is a living. I'll take it.
11:27There was no action. But then I was sitting there.
11:30Then I said, what are you doing?
11:33Bikram, you have to be honest.
11:34Bikram, you have to be honest.
11:36There were other people who took it.
11:38They took it.
11:42I said, what are you doing?
11:45How do we take it?
11:47I said, I said, my husband told me.
11:50I was going to put a collar in my hand.
11:52I said, I would pull me off.
11:54I was going to pull my collar in my hand.
11:56My knee was going to pull me off.
11:58My knee was going to pull me off.
12:00Then I said, I would pull my collar and pull me off.
12:03Then I would pull me off.
12:05I said, you are going to be dead.
12:07I said, you are still alive.
12:09It was only my heart.
12:11I said, how did I die?
12:13I said, you are now dying.
12:15I was calling him after that närmah.
12:16Then I went down.
12:19Then I got to get down.
12:20Then I got to pull him off.
12:21Then he was going off.
12:22Then I took the village of the village.
12:23Then I took the village in the village?
12:24Not now.
12:25I think that village was an village in the village.
12:26How many kilometers did you get from the village?
12:27No, I don't know.
12:28Not that too anymore.
12:29I don't know.
12:30It was too, but it was too painful.
12:31It was too few people.
12:32I got to pull my collar down.
12:33But in the village of the village,
12:34the village ofelasin had to pull me off.
12:36Then I asked him,
12:37that's why we have a little bit of a guffa, there was dead body and we had to go to the hospital,
12:41which was dead, and then we were living in that time.
12:46Then we stayed at night, and then we left the night.
12:50So, when you go to the night, you have all dead bodies?
12:53We all have the casualty, all of them were all dead bodies,
12:56we all put it in the guffa, and we put it in the bed.
12:59Then we put the dead body at night, and then we kept the dead body.
13:02How many people were there?
13:03The other people were there, with the 12-13 people and the 8 people were there.
13:08So the 12 people were there and then the 12 people were there.
13:12So all of them were there.
13:14Then the Q&A went down to the night?
13:16At the night then we got down to the 9.
13:18Then we got back to Marcopole Nala and the first state was there.
13:25Then we got to the blood and then we got to the blood.
13:29It was 4-5am, then it was 4am, then we went to the Daraa sector, then we went to the Srinagar
13:38and then we stopped there for a night, there was a normal treatment, then we went to the command hospital in Chandigarh.
13:50Then there was a operation of my brother, Rod Dali, and then we stayed in the Kasoli.
14:00Vikram Ji, when you were fighting on the beach, you were fighting on the beach, then where did you go to the hospital?
14:09When I got to the hospital, my doctor was there, and he gave him a hospital, and he said, Vikram, I said, I'm fine, but I'm getting a lot of pain.
14:19It was a small town, then we would have to wear it.
14:22Then we went to Srinagar's base hospital.
14:26And we went to Srinagar's base hospital.
14:29Then we got a wire in Chandigarh Command Hospital.
14:32That was our operation.
14:34Your opinion is what happened in the Karsgir?
14:37Yes, it was happening that our troops were going to be further,
14:43because there was a troop.
14:45There were 15 people here.
14:46It's a strange way.
14:47No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no...
14:50There are many steps in the way.
14:52There are steps in the way.
14:54There's a number of people, there, and there.
14:56And the number one has the number.
14:59So, what do you like to say?
15:02What happened to you was there?
15:04There was a whole process.
15:06There was some thing that happened.
15:08We had our clothes.
15:10We had to show a way of movement.
15:12And so, it's that people could help one other way.
15:16that you are 10, 5 or 4 people are
15:19talking about something
15:21in the same way
15:22we were talking about
15:23that was the same
15:25PRC set
15:26PRC set
15:27or if it was the same
15:30PRC set
15:31it is a very common
15:32respect
15:33Bikram ji
15:35because we remember every year
15:37this year
15:38Kargilidh
15:38we remember
15:40how do you see
15:41how do you think
15:41that you have
15:43this
15:44you have
15:45foreign
15:55foreign
15:59foreign
16:05foreign
16:11the government doesn't remember any government,
16:14or any government has come here,
16:16or the BIP, or Congress,
16:18or whatever.
16:19But the fight with them should be invited,
16:23and should be invited.
16:25Because that is also the fight.
16:27Today it is alive,
16:29so no one will ask if it will die.
16:31If I am right,
16:33then I will call my family.
16:35But I am alive today,
16:37I will not have invited to anyone.
16:39I will not have invited to anyone.
16:41I will not have invited to anyone,
16:43but no one will ask.
16:45I have seen that there are other states,
16:47Haryana, Punjab,
16:49but they also give the government
16:51and they give the government
16:53and they have taken care of.
16:55How did you get rid of it?
16:57How did you get rid of it?
16:59How did you get rid of it?
17:01What would you get rid of it?
17:03It was my arm,
17:05and my arm was completely fractured.
17:07It was my arm,
17:09and it was my arm.
17:11After that,
17:12the Uttarakhand government
17:13has never invited us anywhere,
17:15or called us.
17:16And the job?
17:17No, the job is nothing.
17:19The Uttarakhand government
17:21has been in my family.
17:23Meher Singh,
17:24Nine Parakamand,
17:25they are in the RRO.
17:27What are you working with?
17:29Yes, they are working with it.
17:31The government has never been called any information.
17:37You fought and fought.
17:39Did you get rid of it?
17:41Did you get rid of it?
17:43What did you get rid of it?
17:45We didn't get rid of it.
17:47You have to get rid of it.
17:49You have to get rid of it.
17:51It's a very good thing.
17:53But when people, sir,
17:55we have no question.
17:57We have no question.
17:58We have fought.
17:59We have fought.
18:01We have fought.
18:03But we have fought.
18:05In the past,
18:07we are talking to them.
18:09We are headed for this.
18:10We are sitting in our larger community.
18:12But we are standing on the left side.
18:14At the same time we are standing on the opposite side.
