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The landmark free trade agreement is signed between the United Kingdom and India as part of the Prime Minister's visit to Great Britain. Prime Minister Modi hailed the agreement as historic.
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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome. You're with the news today, your prime time destination news.
00:04Newsmakers, talking points, our big talking point this Thursday night.
00:08India and the United Kingdom have signed a landmark free trade deal.
00:13What does that mean? We'll also raise the question,
00:16is the United Kingdom still a safe haven for fugitives?
00:20When will India act against economic offenders?
00:23Also, the Dharmastala barriers.
00:26What is the truth of that big story from Karnataka?
00:32But first, as always, it's time for the nine headlines at nine.
00:37The landmark free trade agreement is signed between United Kingdom and India
00:42as part of the prime minister's visit to Great Britain.
00:46The prime minister hails the agreement.
00:48The British prime minister says it's Britain's biggest trade deal since Brexit.
00:56The election commission versus Rahul Gandhi's showdown escalates.
01:02Rahul alleges poll body is in a bid to steal votes.
01:05EC tells the leader of opposition to refrain from making baseless allegations.
01:10Asked him to wait for the Supreme Court verdict next week.
01:13Enforcement directorate raids Ani Lambani linked premises in Mumbai days after State Bank of India's fraud tag.
01:24ED teams from Delhi and Mumbai conduct raids after multiple agencies including SEBI CBI provide inputs of alleged fund diversion.
01:33Karnataka chief minister says action will be taken against RCB and the state cricket body.
01:42Siddharam Maya government decides to penalize them.
01:45But the Netas will go scot-free for the stampede last month.
01:51Supreme Court stays Bombay High Court order in the 7-11 Mumbai blast case.
01:56The US says this verdict cannot be used as a precedent but adds that the acquitted 12 will remain free for now.
02:06Aviation minister tells Lok Sabha 112 pilots went on leave days after Air India's Ahmedabad crash.
02:14Says Air India reported a minor increase in sick leaves after the tragedy.
02:17A Russian plane crashes in country's far eastern Amur region.
02:2449 passengers and crew killed in a fatal crash.
02:29Thailand and Cambodia clash over a disputed border dispute over a colonial era boundary.
02:36At least 12 Thais, mostly civilians, are killed.
02:38And Bishop Pant displays rare courage.
02:46Injured wicketkeeper with a fractured toe walks out to back.
02:50Scores a half century.
02:52Team management confirms Pant likely to be ruled out for the rest of the series.
02:57But our top focus this evening.
03:12India and the United Kingdom have just signed a free trade agreement today.
03:16On a day when the Prime Minister a short while ago has also met King Charles.
03:21The big story coming in there from the United Kingdom.
03:25Those pictures came earlier today.
03:28The Prime Minister raising Khalistani extremism in his talks with his UK counterpart.
03:33Prime Minister Modi says India and the United Kingdom will work on bringing back economic offenders.
03:39Prime Minister Starmer of Great Britain has called it the biggest trade deal since Brexit.
03:44Remember, as I said, the Prime Minister has met King Charles also a short while ago.
03:51Listen in to what the two leaders said while inking that agreement.
04:25Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement
04:28Sampanahua hai
04:30Hamiis baat par vhi sahmat hai
04:34Ki extremist vichar dhara wali shaktiyo ko
04:38Democratic freedom ka drupiyog nahi karne diya jasa kata
04:42Those who misuse democratic freedoms
04:49To undermine democracy itself
04:52Must be held account
04:55And we both know this is the biggest and most economically significant trade deal
05:00That the UK has made since leaving the EU
05:04And I think I can say that it's one of the most comprehensive deals that India has ever done
05:10So thank you Prime Minister for your leadership and for your pragmatism
05:16And I'd like to thank everybody who's worked so hard to get this deal over the line
05:21Okay let's go across to Laveena Tandon who is tracking the story for us in London
05:28Also from business today Karishma Asudani joins us
05:31But Laveena to you first you've also spoken to Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri
05:36India presumably is seeing this as a major step forward
05:41But there will be there was a discordant note when the Prime Minister spoke particularly on the Kalistani issue
05:48Raised the issue of how Kalistanis are operating he believes in the United Kingdom
05:53And haven't been acted against
05:55What was said specifically on the Kalistani issue?
05:59Rajiv, can I start by saying that though everyone is saying that this is the biggest deal which it is
06:07But the story really lies between the swing and the miss and the straight bat
06:12You would know the straight bat
06:13And that's where for me the story rise
06:15And I will bring the Kalistani issue right now onto it
06:19He did raise it and at a point when the two countries are resetting their relationship
06:24He's strengthening it further
06:26These two matters became quite consequential
06:29And he talked about it in the press conference
06:33And the Foreign Secretary spoke about it
06:36When I asked him about what the reaction was of the United
06:40Of the Prime Minister, Sakiya Starmer, on the two matters
06:44He said the only key word that I picked was cooperation
06:48So cooperation on the Kalistan matter
06:52And the people who are taking democratic
06:54Okay, there was Laveena Tandon there joining us from London
07:00We're having some problem with the audio
07:02Karishma Asudani, take it forward
07:04You're with business today
07:06Give us a sense as to why this trade deal is seen as so historic, Karishma
07:10Well, Rajdeep, both of them have called it a landmark deal
07:15The leaders of both the economies
07:17And while we are talking about how the trade is going to double
07:21And it's going to boost by close to 32 billion dollars per year
07:24We're missing a very important point
07:27And this is about the role India is going to play in the global supply chain
07:32For years we've been talking about China plus one policy
07:35And I think this is the time where India can cash on it
07:38Because with UK is its first mega and huge FTA
07:43Where India gets this chance to enter towards the west
07:47Also close to the countries that are located in the EU
07:52This is the point where India could rise out of the APAC region
07:57And it could turn out to be a hub that is of importance
08:00Not only giving access for British exports to come into India at a cheaper price
08:08Be it whisky or scotch or British made EVs
08:11Or the Indian exports which are across textiles, automobiles, agriculture
08:18Let's also not forget that the Indian government has been careful in preserving its sensitive sectors
08:25Which has also of course been a point of contention with the US
08:29That is the sector of dairy which has not been negotiated with the UK
08:32And that is why they've also been not able to come with a positive optimistic conclusion
08:39When it comes to the US
08:41Because it looks like Prime Minister Modi and Minister Goyal
08:44They're very clear that they're not going to let labour intensive sectors
08:48And key sensitive sectors of India go away at a price to pay
08:52Just Karishma to understand therefore
08:55What you're saying is you will have UK whiskies, chocolates
09:01A lot of the retail goods that come in from the UK
09:05Marks and Spencer for example
09:07Is setting up more and more outlets in this country
09:09They get the benefits
09:10On the other hand as far as India is concerned
09:13An opportunity perhaps to compete with the likes of Bangladesh and other countries
09:17Which have made strides in the UK market
09:21Particularly in textiles
09:22So is it being seen as a win-win deal in that sense
09:25Or who gets the advantage here?
09:28No it is definitely a two-way win-win deal
09:30Because you see the tariff cut has come in between close to 90 to 99 percent
09:35You did mention about Bangladesh and Cambodia
09:38And this is where I want to bring in the point of textiles
09:41Bangladesh and Cambodia have been two countries
09:44Who have been exporting maximum to UK
09:45At a price lesser than what we have been doing
09:48But with this FTA crossing
09:50We do get a first mover advantage to take over that
09:52And not just in supplying our products to the UK
09:56But we could become a hub
09:57We could become a trans-shipment hub
09:59For other APAC countries
10:01To use us as the hub to move to UK
10:03And to access UK market better
10:05Right, Karishma Asudhani
10:08For giving us a sense as to why this deal
10:10Could well be a win-win for both the countries
10:13Thank you very much for joining us
10:15Now there is another subtext to this
10:17Because Prime Minister Narendra Modi
10:19And the British Prime Minister Keith Stama
10:21Were meeting primarily to ink that trade pact
10:25But the issue of economic offenders was also raised
10:29Remember there are many economic offenders wanted by India
10:33Who have taken refuge in the United Kingdom in recent times
10:36That's a long list there
10:38Vijay Malia, Nirav Modi, Lalit Modi, Sanjay Bhandari
10:41Lots of names out there
10:44Viskaran Avasthi, Hritika Avasthi who are there
10:48India has been trying to extradite them
10:49The legal process works to the advantage of many of them
10:53Many of them are claiming they are innocent
10:55That they have been targeted by the enforcement agencies in this country
11:01Prime Minister Modi, after his talks with Prime Minister Stama
11:04Claimed that the agencies of the countries
11:07Will work in close coordination on the issue of economic offenders
11:12Listen in to what the Prime Minister said
11:14Economic offenders ke pratyaparan ke vishai par bhi
11:21Hammari agencies sayyog or samanwai se kaam kerti rahegi
11:31Let's therefore raise the big question
11:37Is the United Kingdom still a safe haven for fugitives
11:41Why is extradition from the United Kingdom tough
11:45Is the government really serious
11:47The Modi government serious in nabbing their fugitives
11:49Many of whom have left under the watch of this government
11:52Joining me now is Kaval Sibbal
11:55Former Indian Foreign Secretary joins me
11:57I'll also be joined in a moment by Tanvir Ahmed Meir, senior criminal lawyer
12:01And Burzeen Wagmar from the SOAS South Asia Institute of the University of London
12:06Also joins me
12:07Let me come to you Burzeen first there
12:10We've seen India from time to time claim
12:14That they are working with the United States to extradite economic offenders
12:17But there's been very little progress in that matter
12:20In fact today Jairam Ramesh of the Congress tweeted
12:24That we need a fugitive agreement
12:26Not just a trade agreement
12:27What is the reason that UK is seen to be such a safe haven
12:33For many of these economic offenders?
12:36I would foreground those remarks against the fact
12:39That the obstruction of justice is at heart
12:43Ambulance chasing lawyers
12:45Perverse obstruction of justice by judges
12:48Which works to the advantage of such economic offenders
12:51But also other illegal aliens who are present on British soil
12:55And the wide perverse interpretation of what is the Human Rights Act
13:00Which in itself is a very much discussion that is ongoing
13:05As we speak with the current government
13:07And as well as the previous Sunak administration
13:09And in more ways than one
13:11That has been used perversely to the hilt
13:14By such individuals
13:17And by lawyers who make a killing out of it
13:19Under the ambit of human rights
13:22It does work to the advantage
13:23Which is why the Home Office is left
13:26You know, pretty much paralyzed
13:27It is not, Rajdeep I must state
13:30The political dispensations view
13:34Not to cooperate on a bilateral basis with another country
13:37And with India with whom ties are intimate
13:41In more ways than one
13:42Considering that India and UK are now a part of the Quad
13:45Indo-Pacific strategy
13:46So on and so forth
13:48Building up on centuries of relations
13:50It's just that it's these aspects which are obstructionist
13:55And there is much momentum here locally
13:57To veer out of it
13:59In terms of this Human Rights Act
14:01And the ECHR provisions
14:02That have worked in favor of not just these offenders
14:05But also complaints from other UK close allies
14:09Including GCC states
14:11Who have a far more intimate security military relationship
14:15With London than New Delhi does
14:17In terms of Islamists
14:19Who have found a comfortable haven on British soil
14:21And where extradition also plays a major role
14:25And they have also been able to use
14:27The question of human rights to their advantage
14:29You know Kawal Sipal
14:32Listening there to Burzin
14:35There are two aspects to this
14:37There is of course the legal system in the United Kingdom
14:40Which perhaps offers a protective veil
14:44To many of these so called economic offenders
14:46But there is also the question of intent
14:49There is a belief that India
14:50The Indian government hasn't done enough
14:52For example in Nirav Modi
14:54Someone who was arrested
14:56And remains in custody in the United Kingdom
14:58Crimes committed in India
15:00But the Indian government has found it
15:02Very difficult to extradite him
15:03Can it only be blamed on the law
15:05Is there a question of intent as well
15:07Which is why many of the economic offenders
15:10Are finding UK to be a safe haven
15:13Let me give you an example of Vijay Malia
15:16Went through a long legal process
15:18The courts allowed his extradition
15:22And one thought that he would be extradited
15:25And then suddenly the whole process stopped
15:27And our friend Boris Johnson
15:30Then Prime Minister was pretty candid
15:31In saying without revealing what the real problem is
15:35That there is a provision within the government
15:39Of freshly looking at the whole thing
15:42But what the basis and the parameters are
15:44Are secret and cannot be diverse to any foreign government
15:47So actually it's the government
15:48That stopped the extradition
15:50But why has the Indian government not front loaded it
15:56I mean let's be very clear
15:57Kaval Sibbal
15:59Vijay Malia claims first of all
16:01That he's innocent
16:02That he's repaid all his loans
16:04That he would like to come back to India
16:06But he doesn't have trust in our criminal justice system
16:09But why hasn't the government front loaded these issues
16:12Most of these people have spent a decade and more
16:14In the United Kingdom now
16:16You're absolutely right
16:17The case was fought
16:20And as I said
16:21It went through the full legal process
16:23And the British High Court
16:24Actually
16:25The whole ministry to begin with
16:27And the British court
16:28Sanctioned
16:30Is allowed this extradition
16:31But the government has stopped it
16:33Now point is
16:34What you're saying is that
16:35What is the kind of
16:37Pressure government of India
16:38Should use in other fields
16:40To compel Britain
16:42To extradite Malia
16:44Now this is a problem that we face diplomatically
16:47With a whole lot of countries
16:48Because they will not bend
16:50To your priorities
16:51To your demands
16:52And then they
16:54Place you in a position
16:55Where you may have to use
16:57Some other
16:57Points of pressure
16:59To get your way
17:00Then you have to decide
17:01Whether it is worth it
17:02Now for example
17:04In this case
17:04I'm just speaking theoretically
17:06We would have said
17:07Look we're not going to sign
17:08This vision to 2035
17:10Or whatever else
17:11We want to do with you
17:12Or enter into some defence agreements
17:14With you
17:14Unless we get satisfaction
17:16On this
17:17Now are we willing to make
17:18These kind of
17:19Links in our diplomacy
17:22Towards not only
17:24United States
17:24UK but
17:26Should we
17:26No no but
17:27Let me ask you very clearly
17:28Should we
17:28Have we been less than
17:30Enthusiastic in a way
17:32Have we
17:33It's very easy to put
17:34All the blame on the UK government
17:36The UK government
17:37They've approved most of
17:39These extraditions
17:41It's stuck in the legal system
17:42But has India been
17:44Proactive enough
17:44A straight answer to that
17:46I would say that
17:47You have to
17:48Measure
17:49Very carefully
17:51What your larger
17:52Interests are
17:53And whether
17:53Vijay Malia's
17:54Extradition
17:55Is so much at the
17:56Core of your national
17:57Interest
17:57That you are willing to
17:59Replace other areas
18:00Of the national interest
18:01Which are far more
18:02Important
18:02And make it an issue
18:03Look at the old
18:04Khalistani issue
18:05And all the
18:06All the
18:07Space they get
18:09In that country
18:10Now we've been
18:11Protesting against it
18:12We've been putting pressure
18:13We've not got full satisfaction
18:14Again the same question arises
18:16Are you going to make
18:17This actually
18:19The litmus test
18:19Of any future
18:21Good relationship
18:22With the United
18:22Of United Kingdom
18:24Or you
18:25Keep pressing on these issues
18:26But let the relationship
18:28Move forward
18:28In which you can gain
18:30Something very substantial
18:31From the relationship
18:32Okay
18:33Tanvir Ahmed Meir
18:34Senior criminal lawyer
18:35Joins me
18:36Tanvir we've seen
18:37In most of these cases
18:38There has been
18:40Very little progress
18:41Made beyond
18:42Of course
18:43The UK government
18:45Saying they approve
18:46Extradition
18:46But then it gets caught
18:47In a legal tangle
18:49Do you believe
18:50That makes it
18:51Extremely difficult
18:51There are
18:52The United Kingdom
18:53System operates
18:54In a way that
18:55There can be
18:55A series of appeals
18:56That any individual
18:58Can make
18:58Even going to the
18:59Court of
19:00Of just
19:01In Europe
19:02Do you believe
19:04That makes it
19:04Very difficult
19:05Absolutely
19:07Rajdeep
19:08It's a very
19:09Difficult process
19:10And
19:11Irrespective of
19:12The bill of the
19:14Government
19:14That Mr.
19:15Sybil
19:15Was saying
19:16That perhaps
19:17In his understanding
19:18The government
19:18Has taken a backseat
19:19But the issue
19:21Is
19:21That in so far
19:22As the extradition
19:23Process of
19:24Fugitive arms
19:25Dealer
19:26Sanjay Pandari
19:27Is taken into
19:28Consideration
19:29The government
19:29Of India
19:30Lost the batter
19:31In the UK
19:31High Court
19:32And got a
19:33Knuckle blow
19:33Now in terms
19:35Of those
19:36Judgements
19:36Or whatever
19:37Order came
19:38From England
19:38Two things
19:39Were very clear
19:40One is that
19:41We are not
19:42Going to extradite
19:43A person
19:43Who will be
19:44Put to a lot
19:45Of human
19:45Right abuse
19:46Politically
19:47Intubated
19:48Prosecutions
19:49And anything
19:49Ancillary
19:50And you know
19:50Appendent to that
19:51I have a
19:53Different solution
19:53The government
19:55Of India
19:55In the case
19:56Of even
19:57Nirav Modi
19:57Or Vijay Malia
19:59Should straight
20:00Away say
20:01To the courts
20:01Of the London
20:02And give an
20:02Undertaking
20:03That if these
20:04People do
20:05Come back to
20:06India
20:06We are not
20:06Going to
20:07Arrest them
20:07At all
20:08And why
20:09Should they
20:09Be arrested
20:09And put
20:10Through the
20:10Custodial
20:11Interrogation
20:12When you
20:13Have the
20:14Will
20:14The where
20:15With all
20:15To do
20:16An expedited
20:17Trial
20:17Rather than
20:18Taking the
20:19People into
20:19Custody
20:20Forefront
20:20Give them
20:21An opportunity
20:22To contest
20:22The cases
20:23Do cross
20:24Examine your
20:25Witnesses
20:25And prove
20:26That you are
20:26Good
20:26See the
20:27Biggest
20:28That's an
20:28Interesting point
20:29You see
20:29That's it
20:29Because in
20:30The Sanjay
20:31Bhandari
20:31Case
20:32Which is a
20:33Defense
20:33Dealer
20:34The UK
20:35High Court
20:35Rejected the
20:36Extradition
20:37Citing risks
20:38Of extortion
20:39And violence
20:39In Indian
20:40Custody
20:40So the UK
20:42System doesn't
20:43Seem to see
20:43The Indian
20:44System as
20:44Providing a
20:45Fair trial
20:46So you are
20:47Saying the
20:47Guarantee will
20:48Have to be
20:48Given to
20:49Give us
20:49PD trial
20:50Am I
20:50Correct
20:50No I
20:52Am saying
20:52That government
20:53Of India
20:53Should go
20:54Step for
20:54For example
20:54In Vijay
20:55Malaya
20:55As against
20:57An outstanding
20:58Debt of
20:586000
20:59Croods
20:59Which he
21:01Owned to
21:01The bankers
21:02There is a
21:03Total recovery
21:03Of 14000
21:04Why do you
21:05Need the man
21:06To go into
21:06Custody
21:07If you give
21:08Him an
21:08Assurance that
21:09You come
21:09Back to
21:10Your homeland
21:10Where you
21:12Were one
21:12Of the
21:12Biggest
21:13You know
21:13Promoter
21:13Directors
21:14Of companies
21:15At a
21:15Young age
21:16Of 28
21:17Yes there
21:18Are criminal
21:18Prosecutions
21:19We give an
21:20Assurance that
21:21We will not
21:21Take you
21:21Into custody
21:22Please come
21:23Down back to
21:24Your homeland
21:24And contest
21:25Your cases
21:26Custody
21:27Is not
21:28Needed
21:28That's a
21:29Very interesting
21:30Viewpoint
21:30Burjini
21:31You are
21:31Raising your
21:31Hand
21:32Go ahead
21:32Very quickly
21:34Your previous
21:35Guest made
21:35A very
21:36Pertinent
21:36Point
21:37Rajdeep
21:38India can
21:39Make a
21:39Case as
21:40The world's
21:40Largest
21:41Functioning
21:41Democracy
21:42That we
21:43Do not
21:44Visit
21:44Torture upon
21:45Such
21:45Individuals
21:46Who are
21:46Repatriated
21:47To India
21:47I mean
21:48Barely did
21:49Taha
21:49Rana land
21:50In New Delhi
21:51That he was
21:52Afforded legal
21:53Protection
21:54Now the case
21:55Is going on
21:55Not in the
21:57Public domain
21:57True
21:57But he was
21:58Afforded legal
21:59Aid upon
21:59Returning to
22:00India
22:00From what I
22:01Understand
22:01Likewise with
22:02The Ajmal
22:03Kasap
22:03Case
22:03He wasn't
22:04Shot dead
22:05He was
22:05Rehabilitated
22:07He was
22:07Recuperated
22:08And a
22:09Full-fledged
22:10Trial took
22:10Place
22:11Where he
22:12Was
22:12Implicated
22:13For
22:13As the
22:13Trial
22:15But do
22:15You agree
22:16Burzeen
22:17With the
22:17Point which
22:18Is being
22:18Made by
22:18Tanvir
22:19Ahmed
22:19Meir
22:19That rather
22:20Than say
22:20That we
22:21Are immediately
22:21Going to
22:22Put them
22:22Into
22:22Custody
22:23Give
22:24The assurance
22:24To the
22:25UK
22:25Court
22:25That whether
22:26It's a
22:26Vijay
22:26Malia
22:27Or whether
22:27It's a
22:27Neerab
22:27Modi
22:28Or whether
22:28It's a
22:28Lalit
22:29Modi
22:29They will
22:29Go through
22:30The
22:30They will
22:30Also be
22:31Given the
22:31Rights that
22:32We give
22:32Every Indian
22:33Citizen
22:33Exactly
22:34And I
22:35Concur
22:36With Mr.
22:36Meir
22:37Why does
22:37Not New
22:38Delhi
22:38Very robustly
22:39Make that
22:40Out to
22:40London
22:40DC
22:41Or elsewhere
22:42That these
22:43Protections
22:44Are afforded
22:44To every
22:45Individual
22:45Who is
22:46Repatriated
22:46And that
22:47The world's
22:48Largest
22:48Democracy
22:48Does make
22:49A case
22:50And I
22:50Cited
22:51Two
22:51Serious
22:51Examples
22:52Tawurana
22:53Which is
22:53Ongoing
22:53And the
22:54Ajmal
22:54Kasap
22:55Case
22:55Which eventually
22:56Saw him
22:56Receive
22:56Capital
22:57Punishment
22:57Which in
22:58India
22:58Is given
22:59Only in
22:59The rarest
22:59Of rare
23:00Cases
23:00As the
23:00Supreme
23:01Court
23:01Has consistently
23:02Stated
23:02So the
23:03Question of
23:04India being
23:04Run like a
23:05Police state
23:05Or a
23:06Banana
23:06Republic
23:06Where torture
23:07Is a
23:08Visited upon
23:08Individuals
23:09Beggars
23:10Belief
23:10And that
23:11Is what
23:11Happens
23:12Coming back
23:12Here on
23:13The London
23:13Homefront
23:14Is the
23:14Question of
23:15Torture
23:15Which is
23:15What these
23:16Ambulance
23:17Chasing
23:17Lawyers
23:17Bring up
23:18That they
23:18Would not
23:19Have a
23:19Fair trial
23:20And they
23:20Would be
23:20Physically
23:21Mutilated
23:21Would that
23:22They were
23:22Repatriated
23:23And that's
23:24Where things
23:24Hold as
23:25Such
23:28The rest
23:28Of it
23:29But India
23:30Can bring
23:30In
23:30Rajdeep
23:31These two
23:31Robust
23:31Cases
23:32That I
23:32Mentioned
23:32Among a
23:33Slew of
23:33Others
23:34That a
23:34Democracy
23:35Doesn't
23:35Operate
23:35Under such
23:36Conditions
23:37Tanvir
23:38You want
23:38To respond
23:38You raised
23:39Your hand
23:39Yes I
23:40Just wanted
23:41To say
23:41That there
23:42Is no
23:43Gain saying
23:43The government
23:44Of India
23:45And the
23:45Law enforcement
23:46Agencies
23:47In these
23:47Cases
23:48Will lose
23:48Nothing
23:49If they
23:50Give an
23:50Upfront
23:51Assurance
23:51In the
23:52Form of
23:52An
23:53Undertaking
23:53Or an
23:54Affidavit
23:54Of a
23:55Responsible
23:56Officer
23:56Of government
23:57Of India
23:57Maybe of
23:58Law Enforcement
23:59Agency
23:59Simply saying
24:00That you're
24:01On it
24:01If this
24:02Man is
24:02Extradited
24:03Or if
24:04He comes
24:04On his
24:04Own
24:05We give
24:05An
24:06Assurance
24:06That we
24:06Will not
24:07Oppose
24:07His
24:07Bail
24:08Let him
24:10Go out
24:10Let him
24:11Go out
24:11His home
24:11You press
24:13Your indictment
24:14In a
24:14Court of
24:14Law
24:15And rely
24:16Upon your
24:16Witnesses
24:17To earn
24:17Yourself
24:18A conviction
24:18Why do
24:20You need
24:20The man
24:20To go
24:21Into
24:21Custody
24:22Who's
24:22Paid
24:2340,000
24:23Crores
24:24For a
24:25Debt of
24:256,000
24:25Crores
24:26What will
24:27You get
24:27Out of
24:28It
24:28You know
24:29That brings
24:30Me therefore
24:31Kaval
24:32Circling
24:33Back to
24:34You
24:34Is the
24:34Government
24:34Serious
24:35About
24:35These
24:36Cases
24:36There's
24:37A lot
24:37Of
24:37Noise
24:38Which
24:38Is
24:38Made
24:38Around
24:39It
24:39But
24:39Is
24:39The
24:39Government
24:40Of
24:40India
24:40Serious
24:41In
24:41Terms
24:41Of
24:41Ensuring
24:42That
24:42The
24:43Prosecution
24:43Takes
24:44Place
24:44In
24:44A
24:44Fair
24:45Manner
24:45In
24:45An
24:46Expeditious
24:46Manner
24:47In
24:47The
24:47Case
24:47Of
24:47Lalit
24:48Modi
24:48For
24:49Example
24:49Money
24:50Laundering
24:50Charges
24:51Were
24:51Made
24:51In
24:512010
24:52Extradition
24:53Status
24:53Is
24:53There's
24:53No
24:54Significant
24:54Legal
24:54Proceedings
24:55Anymore
24:56In
24:56The
24:57Neerab
24:57Modi
24:58Case
24:58There's
24:58An
24:58Appeal
24:59In
24:59The
24:59High
24:59Court
24:59Claiming
25:00Mental
25:00Health
25:00Issues
25:00That
25:01Are
25:01Pending
25:01He's
25:01Of
25:01Course
25:02In
25:02Custody
25:02And
25:03In
25:04Vijay
25:04Malia's
25:04Case
25:05Also
25:05An
25:05Asylum
25:06Bid
25:06Has
25:06Delayed
25:07Extradition
25:07But
25:07The
25:07General
25:08Feeling
25:08Is
25:08That
25:09The
25:09Indian
25:09Government
25:10Has
25:10Not
25:10Really
25:11Made
25:11This
25:12A
25:12Priority
25:12Issue
25:13Do
25:13You
25:13Agree
25:14Look
25:14There are
25:15Couple
25:15Of
25:15Things
25:15One
25:16Is
25:16That
25:17Do
25:17We
25:17Seriously
25:18Believe
25:18Amongst
25:18Us
25:19That
25:20The
25:20British
25:21Don't
25:21Know
25:21What
25:21Our
25:21System
25:22Is
25:22Aside
25:22The
25:23Cases
25:23That
25:23Have
25:24Been
25:24Cited
25:24By
25:24The
25:25Gentlemen
25:25From
25:25SOS
25:26The
25:27British
25:27Also
25:27Know
25:28They
25:28Know
25:29The
25:29Inside
25:29And
25:29Out
25:30Of
25:30Our
25:31Legal
25:32System
25:32It's
25:33Not
25:33As
25:33If
25:33India
25:34Is
25:34Such
25:34A
25:35Black
25:35Hole
25:35That
25:35They
25:35Have
25:36No
25:36Concept
25:36Of
25:37How
25:37Our
25:37Legal
25:38System
25:39Works
25:39They
25:39Are
25:39Just
25:39Excuses
25:40And
25:41We
25:41Are
25:41Unnecessarily
25:42Putting
25:42Ourselves
25:43On
25:43The
25:43Defensive
25:43By
25:44Trying
25:44To
25:45Tell
25:45The
25:45British
25:45That
25:46We
25:46Are
25:46A
25:46Democracy
25:47And
25:47Our
25:47Legal
25:47System
25:48Works
25:48According
25:49To
25:49Known
25:49Sets
25:50And
25:50Rules
25:50And
25:51It's
25:51A
25:51Fair
25:51System
25:52What's
25:52Your
25:53Second
25:53Point
25:53Number
25:54One
25:54Number
25:55One
25:55Is
25:55Number
25:56Two
25:56As
25:57I
25:57Said
25:57Before
25:58You
25:59Talked
25:59About
26:00The
26:00Delays
26:01In
26:01Our
26:01Legal
26:01System
26:02What
26:02About
26:02The
26:02Delays
26:02In
26:03The
26:03British
26:03System
26:04Look
26:04At
26:04All
26:04Years
26:05And
26:05Years
26:05Have
26:06Gone
26:06By
26:06And
26:07Appeal
26:07After
26:08Appeal
26:08For
26:08This
26:08Reason
26:09Or
26:09That
26:09Reason
26:09And
26:09This
26:10Review
26:10And
26:10That
26:10Review
26:11What
26:11Does
26:11This
26:12Say
26:12About
26:12The
26:12British
26:12Legal
26:13System
26:13It
26:14Also
26:15Delays
26:15In
26:16And
26:19Lastly
26:20The
26:21Point
26:21Is
26:21As
26:21I
26:21Said
26:22Earlier
26:22At
26:23The
26:23End
26:23Of
26:23The
26:23Day
26:24When
26:24All
26:24The
26:24Legal
26:25Procedures
26:25Are
26:26Completed
26:26There
26:27Is
26:27An
26:27Internal
26:28Political
26:28Process
26:29Which
26:30Is
26:30Secret
26:31Which
26:31Is
26:31Not
26:31Known
26:32And
26:32Under
26:32Which
26:33The
26:33British
26:34Government
26:34Can
26:34Decide
26:34Not
26:35To
26:35Extradite
26:36And
26:36This
26:36Has
26:36Happened
26:36In
26:37The
26:37Case
26:37Of
26:37Malia
26:37You
26:38Know
26:38Britain
26:38Has
26:39Become
26:39A
26:39Safe
26:39Haven
26:40For
26:40All
26:40These
26:41Fellows
26:41And
26:41They
26:41Want
26:41To
26:46Second
26:47Burzin
26:47Quick
26:48Response
26:48Rajdeep
26:50Moving
26:51Back
26:51To
26:51The
26:51Kalistan
26:52And
26:52Separatism
26:52And
26:53Irredentism
26:53Issue
26:54Colombo
26:55Begged
26:55London
26:56For
26:56Decades
26:57From
26:57Mid
26:5770s
26:58When
26:58The
26:58Elam
26:58Issue
26:59Started
26:59Only
27:00In
27:002001
27:01It
27:01Was
27:01Prescribed
27:02By
27:02The
27:02Home
27:02Office
27:02And
27:03The
27:03Final
27:03Showdown
27:04Which
27:04Happened
27:04And
27:04The
27:05LTTE
27:05Was
27:05Destroyed
27:06Only
27:06In
27:062009
27:07Sri
27:07Lanka
27:07Does
27:08Not
27:08Carry
27:08That
27:08Much
27:09Weightage
27:09Or
27:09Heft
27:09As
27:10India
27:10Would
27:10But
27:11I
27:19Just
27:19Wanted
27:19To
27:19Put
27:19That
27:20Into
27:20Historical
27:20Context
27:21Okay
27:21Let's
27:22Leave
27:22It
27:22There
27:22Very
27:24Very
27:24Interesting
27:25Amongst
27:26All
27:26The
27:27Bonhomie
27:28The
27:28Fact
27:29Is
27:29That
27:29The
27:29Two
27:30Countries
27:30While
27:31They
27:31Got
27:31The
27:31Trade
27:32Deal
27:32Done
27:32And
27:32That
27:32Good
27:33News
27:33They
27:33Just
27:34Haven't
27:34Got
27:34That
27:34Act
27:35Together
27:35When
27:36It
27:36Comes
27:36To
27:36Extradition
27:37Of
27:38Economic
27:39Offenders
27:39I
27:40Appreciate
27:40My
27:41Guests
27:41Joining
27:42Me
27:42On
27:42The
27:43Show
27:43Tonight
27:43Thank
27:44You
27:44Very
27:44Much
27:44Let
27:44Me
27:44Turn
27:45Though
27:45Talking
27:46About
27:46Economic
27:46Offenders
27:47The
27:47Enforcement
27:48Directorate
27:49Today
27:49Has
27:49Conducted
27:50Multiple
27:50Raids
27:51At
27:51More
27:51Than
27:5135
27:52Premises
27:53All
27:53Tied
27:54To
27:54The
27:54Reliance
27:54Anil
27:55Dhirubai
27:55Ambani
27:56Group
27:56Investigators
27:57Say
27:57Yes
27:58Bank
27:58Promoters
27:59Allegedly
27:59Received
28:00Funds
28:00In
28:00Their
28:00Own
28:01Entities
28:01Before
28:02The
28:02Loans
28:02Were
28:02Cleared
28:03For
28:03The
28:03Anil
28:04Dhirubai
28:04Ambani
28:04Group
28:05Triggering
28:05Bribery
28:06Concerns
28:07Sources
28:07In
28:07The
28:08Enforcement
28:08Directorate
28:09Linked
28:09The
28:09Action
28:10To
28:10A
28:103,000
28:10Crore
28:11Loan
28:11Diversion
28:12Probe
28:13Munish
28:13Pandey
28:13Has
28:14More
28:14On
28:14That
28:15Story
28:15Well
28:17This
28:17Is
28:18A
28:18Major
28:18Crackdown
28:18Against
28:19Anil
28:19Ambani
28:20And
28:20Business
28:20Entities
28:21Linked
28:21To
28:21Him
28:22According
28:22To
28:22Enforcement
28:23Directorate
28:23They
28:23Have
28:23Rated
28:24More
28:24Than
28:2440
28:25Premises
28:26Linked
28:27To
28:27Anil
28:27Ambani
28:28Business
28:28Entities
28:29And
28:30Also
28:30The
28:30Top
28:31Executives
28:32Of
28:32Anil
28:32Ambani
28:32Including
28:33Amitabh
28:34Junjunwala
28:34Who
28:34Is
28:35The
28:35Chairman
28:36Apart
28:36From
28:37That
28:37We
28:37Have
28:37Been
28:37Given
28:38To
28:38Understand
28:38Is
28:38That
28:38There
28:39Are
28:39Three
28:39Serious
28:40Allegations
28:40Which
28:41The
28:41ED
28:41Is
28:41Probing
28:42At
28:42This
28:42Point
28:43Of
28:43Time
28:43Number
28:43One
28:44Is
28:44Siphoning
28:45Of
28:46More
28:46Than
28:463,000
28:47Crore
28:47Of
28:47Loan
28:47Which
28:48Was
28:48Given
28:48By
28:49The
28:49Yes
28:49Bank
28:50That
28:50Is
28:50Number
28:50One
28:51Number
28:51Two
28:51Is
28:51To
28:52Get
28:52This
28:52Loan
28:53According
28:53To
28:53Enforcement
28:54Rated
28:54And
28:54What
28:54Has
28:55Appeared
28:55In
28:55The
28:56Primary
28:56Investigation
28:57Of
28:57ED
28:58Is
28:59That
28:59The
29:00Just
29:00Bank
29:00Promoters
29:01Were
29:01Given
29:02Crores
29:02And
29:03Crores
29:03Of
29:03Bribe
29:04To
29:05Get
29:05This
29:053,000
29:06Crore
29:06Of
29:06Loan
29:06And
29:07That
29:07Is
29:07Why
29:07You
29:08Know
29:08The
29:09Documentation
29:10Process
29:10Was
29:10Avoided
29:11There
29:11Were
29:12Many
29:12Manipulations
29:13Done
29:13At
29:13The
29:13Bank
29:14Level
29:14That
29:15Is
29:15Allegation
29:15Number
29:16Two
29:16Apart
29:17From
29:17That
29:17The
29:17ED
29:17Sources
29:18Have
29:18Also
29:18Told
29:19India
29:19Today
29:19That
29:20They
29:20Are
29:20Also
29:21Probing
29:21Another
29:22Bank
29:24Fraud
29:24Committed
29:24By
29:24The
29:25Business
29:25Entities
29:25Of
29:26Anil
29:26Ambani
29:26This
29:27Bank
29:27Fraud
29:28Is
29:28Of
29:28More
29:28Than
29:2914,000
29:30Crores
29:30So
29:30Overall
29:31If
29:31You
29:31See
29:32At
29:32The
29:32Impact
29:33Of
29:33This
29:33Fraud
29:33By
29:34Anil
29:34Ambani
29:34And
29:35His
29:35Business
29:36Entities
29:36Is
29:36More
29:37Than
29:3717,000
29:39Crores
29:39And
29:39Rajdeep
29:40Interestingly
29:40This
29:41Has
29:41Come
29:41At
29:41A
29:41Point
29:42When
29:42There
29:42Were
29:42Allegations
29:43That
29:43You
29:44Know
29:44Anil
29:45Ambani
29:49But
29:49ED
29:50Sources
29:50Have
29:50Told
29:50India
29:51Today
29:51That
29:51They
29:51Have
29:51Gone
29:52By
29:52The
29:53Evidence
29:53And
29:53Based
29:54On
29:54These
29:54Evidence
29:55They
29:55Have
29:55Rated
29:57Premises
29:57Linked
29:57To
29:57Anil
29:58Ambani
29:58Business
29:59Also
29:59We
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30:00Been
30:00Given
30:00To
30:00Understand
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30:01In
30:01Coming
30:01Days
30:02There
30:02Is
30:02A
30:02High
30:03Possibility
30:03That
30:04Not
30:04Only
30:04Anil
30:05Ambani
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30:06His
30:06Top
30:06Business
30:07Executives
30:08Will
30:08Also
30:09Be
30:09Called
30:09In
30:09For
30:10Questioning
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30:10The
30:10Enforcement
30:11Directorate
30:11Remember
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30:13This
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30:20See
30:20That
30:20Development
30:21Taking
30:21Place
30:22Munish
30:22Pandey
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30:23Those
30:23Details
30:23Now
30:24As
30:24The
30:25Political
30:25Uproar
30:26Over
30:26Electoral
30:27Role
30:27Revision
30:28In
30:28Bihar
30:28Continues
30:29To
30:29Escalate
30:29And
30:30Continues
30:30To
30:30Create
30:30A
30:30Lockjam
30:31In
30:31Parliament
30:31The
30:32Election
30:32Commission
30:33Of
30:33India
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30:34In
30:35As
30:35Per
30:36The
30:36Special
30:37Intensive
30:37Revision
30:38Order
30:38The
30:39EC
30:39Says
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30:40Elector
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30:41Recognized
30:42Political
30:42Party
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30:43Granted
30:44A
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30:44Month
30:44Window
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30:451st
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30:461st
30:46September
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30:47Include
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30:48Name
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30:49Voter
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30:57Accuracy
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30:59Electoral
30:59Roles
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31:00Leader
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31:01Gandhi
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31:06EC
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31:17This
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31:18The
31:18Drama
31:18That
31:18Is
31:18Taking
31:19Place
31:19Okay
31:20Thousands
31:22And
31:22Thousands
31:22Of
31:23New
31:23Voters
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31:25Voters
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31:2750
31:2845
31:2960
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31:30New
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31:36Right
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31:38Voter
31:38Addition
31:39New
31:40Voters
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31:46Want
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31:47Message
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31:47Election
31:48Commission
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31:49Think
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31:52Away
31:52With
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32:45Sandeep
32:46Sandeep
32:46Anand
32:46gets us a reality check from Hajipur, a constituency near Patna,
32:50a constituency whose MP is Union Minister Chirag Paswan.
32:54Take a look.
33:01The special intensive revision of voter list by the Election Commission,
33:06it was feared will affect people living on the margins the most.
33:10The poorest of the poor, who may struggle to produce documents at such short notice.
33:16The Mushahar Basti in Subai Jamalpur, a colony of Mahadalits, is just three kilometers from Hajipur,
33:25the Vaishali district headquarters.
33:29Our task is simple.
33:31Ask villagers if they have submitted emuneration forms.
33:34Most people we met looked puzzled.
33:57The same questions, the same response.
34:15Again and again, all equally clueless.
34:39They are clueless.
34:40You have a voter card.
34:44The form is filled with you.
34:46Do you have any form?
34:47No.
34:48Do you have any form?
34:49No.
34:49Do you have any form?
34:50No.
34:51No.
34:51Do you have any form?
34:52No.
34:52No.
34:53You have any form?
34:54You have any form?
34:55No.
34:56Do you have any form?
34:57No.
34:58Do you have any form?
34:59No.
35:00Do you have any form?
35:01No.
35:02No.
35:03I can't.
35:04There is a card card.
35:05Do you have a voter ID card before?
35:07Yes.
35:08Yes.
35:09No.
35:10Do you have any form?
35:11No.
35:12Do you have any form?
35:13No.
35:14No.
35:15The few who have heard of the revision haven't filled the form.
35:20Do you have a voter card?
35:23Do you have any form?
35:24Yes.
35:25Yes.
35:26Do you have any form that is filled with you?
35:29Yes.
35:30Yes.
35:31Yes.
35:32It's filled with you.
35:33It's filled with you.
35:34It's filled with you.
35:35Does anyone come in a month or not?
35:36Yes.
35:37No.
35:38Do you have any form of the voter form?
35:40No.
35:44According to the Election Commission, 99% of electorate has been covered.
35:51Forms from 91% already digitized.
35:55Hajipur is the bastion of the Paswans.
35:59Mahadalits are a vote bank nurtured by Chief Minister Nitish Kumar.
36:04But the Musharibasti in Subhai Jamalpur, just three kilometers from Hajipur seems to have fallen off the map.
36:15With Sandeep Anand, Bureau Report, India Today.
36:19What does one say?
36:23Is the Chief Election Commissioner of the country watching these stories?
36:27We are putting out the truth files day after day.
36:32The right to vote is a fundamental right of every Indian citizen, rich or poor.
36:37Let's turn from there to our other focus.
36:40Shocking revelations by a whistleblower in Karnataka that have compelled the Siddharamaya government to form a special investigation team into the Dharamstala case.
36:50A case where allegedly there was 20 officers will carry out an in-depth probe into the disturbing claims of women being sexually assaulted and then secretly buried over the years in this sacred place in Dakshin, Kannada.
37:07Take a look at this report for more on the Dharamstala controversy.
37:14The special investigation team formed by the Karnataka government to probe the alleged Dharamstala burials is expanding.
37:22It has formed a dedicated team of 20 officers to carry out an in-depth investigation into charges of suspected sexual assault victims being buried secretly over many years.
37:36The claims made by a whistleblower have triggered widespread outrage.
37:40A special investigation team headed by DGP rank officer Pranav Mohanty was formed after days of coverage by India Today.
37:52To look into Dharamstala issues, there has been a complaint, there has been a public hue and cry.
38:03Government has taken note of all this and then constituted in SIT where to look into this whole thing.
38:10The SIT is an a
38:21The alleged mass murders in the temple town were exposed by a former sanitation worker
38:43who was employed with the Gram Panchayat from 1995 to 2014.
38:49The whistleblower alleged that while cleaning the Netravati river, he began encountering
38:55corpses, mostly women.
38:58Some of them appeared to have been allegedly raped and murdered.
39:02Many were allegedly found without clothes, bearing signs of violence.
39:08The whistleblower in his complaint to police claimed he was beaten and threatened to obey.
39:16Now families of the missing are breaking their silence.
39:19Sujata, whose daughter went missing during a college trip to Dharmastala in 2003, says
39:25she was assaulted and silenced when she sought justice.
39:30Amid this, Padmalata murder case has resurfaced in Mangaluru 39 years later.
39:37Padmalata, a resident of Bulyaru village in Dharmastala, Belthangadi Taluk of Dakshina Kannada district,
39:45mysteriously went missing on December 22, 1986, after she left for Ujire College.
39:52Despite an extensive search, she remained untraceable.
39:58From ignored complaints to buried bones and silenced testimonies.
40:03Every unanswered question now demands attention as the SIT steps in.
40:10Across nation, there is one hope.
40:13Justice, truth and dignity for the daughters who were possibly failed.
40:19With Sagai Raj, Bureau Report, India Today.
40:23Let me first go to our correspondent, Sagai Raj, who's been tracking that story.
40:30Sagai, prima facie, this seems a shocker.
40:32When you hear that there were mass burials taking place, allegedly, according to the former
40:37sanitation worker in his complaint, many of the female bodies were found without clothing
40:43or underwear, bear clear signs of sexual assault and violence.
40:46How seriously is this being taken, these claims in the complaint made by the sanitation
40:51worker?
40:52The very fact that SIT has been appointed suggests there is much more than meets the eye here.
40:56Absolutely.
40:57Initially, the police were elected to even give any kind of statement to the media.
41:01And if you notice that, it is not a tradition in the state of Karnataka, because any kind
41:06of crime, there is a press meter, there is a briefing from the home ministry.
41:10But in this particular case, the police was elected to speak about this particular incident,
41:16and they maintained silence.
41:17And in fact, they went on to give press leads, which was unacceptable by the lawyers and others,
41:23because there were excuses.
41:24It was given by the police, because whenever these kind of crimes, these kind of allegations,
41:29and when an affair has been registered, where someone is claiming that there are hundreds
41:34of bodies that he has buried.
41:35But still, there is no exhumation process which happens.
41:38So, there are a lot of questions which have been raised.
41:41Activists, lawyers, as well as the victims claiming that why there is no action taken,
41:46despite the affair has been registered after 10 days.
41:48After pressure from the media, as well as the activists, the government have formed the SIT
41:53to investigate this particular case.
41:55So, we need to wait and watch how the SIT is going to investigate further on the same.
42:00KBK Swami now joins me, Advocate Karnataka High Court.
42:04KBK Swami, do you believe that this is a case where it will be tough to garner the evidence,
42:11given the fact that here is a sanitation worker who claims that this has been, many of the stories
42:16are coming only after almost 11 years, can they be taken at face value legally?
42:23See, Mr. Raddeep, my first comment on this issue is that the complaint is made at a very belated stage.
42:33So, the delay in making the complaint, per se, may not be a reason to outrightly reject the entire allegations.
42:41But when an allegation is made in respect of this kind of criminal activities,
42:48so the SIT has to investigate, go in deep and find out the evidence,
42:53then only the allegation with respect to a particular accused can be made.
42:57Otherwise, to make some allegations on any particular ATTR institution is not good.
43:05You see, but he has made this statement, released by two lawyers,
43:10because the government has ordered an SIT in that sense, and there are now stories coming
43:15that could be corroborating some of the claims that he makes.
43:19What does this suggest, purely in terms of the legal process? What next?
43:24Will it now require a proper investigation by the SIT before one can say with any kind of conclusion
43:32that this could be one of the major cases that has been buried literally of sexual assault, potential sexual assault?
43:39Because there are some very big figures involved here.
43:45You know, certainly, certainly, in respect of this Dharmasthala episode is concerned, the allegations are very, very serious.
43:54But the fact is that, as you said, the corroboration is required to prove any allegation against any particular person or against a particular entity.
44:03Now, in this case, the sanitation worker has been taken before the learned magistrate.
44:09The statement has been recorded.
44:11But nobody knows exactly as to what is the content of the 164 statement is concerned.
44:17The statement which is being recorded under 164 per se is not evidence.
44:22But the copy of this statement is normally given to the investigating officer.
44:26And they will come to know what is the allegation.
44:29Based on that, they can start collecting the clues and they can start collecting the evidence.
44:33Then only they can go for the corroboration.
44:36Now, it is too premature for anybody to say that the allegations are pointing towards a particular person.
44:43But should the Karnataka police not have conducted exhumations at the burial sites identified by the whistleblower?
44:53He claims he is ready to guide them to where these alleged mass burials have taken place.
44:57Should the Karnataka government have first gone and seen whether there is any basis to these charges,
45:04exhumed the alleged area where these mass bodies are located?
45:08See, Radheep, the investigation is exclusively in the domain of the investigating officer.
45:15State has absolutely no role in dictating as to what should be done, what should not be done.
45:20Now, insofar as taking a call as to whether to conduct an exhumation immediately or not,
45:25ultimately will be decided by the police force.
45:28Now, there is a separate agency, SIT has been formed.
45:31SIT would certainly look into all these matters depending upon the statement which he has given before the learned magistrate.
45:38Now, while conducting this procedure also, there are other formalities.
45:43The FSL expert has to be summoned.
45:45The other agencies who are going to help the investigating officer will have to be summoned.
45:50Executive magistrate must be present.
45:52He must act in accordance with law under section 196 of the new code.
45:57So, these are all formalities which are completely left to the investigating officer.
46:02Now, the government has appointed an SIT, appointed a particular IPS officer as the head of the team.
46:10Now, the team has to decide and take a call.
46:12Now, the government cannot dictate as to how investigation has to proceed and how it has to be conducted.
46:20Okay, let me leave it there, sir, because I think what we are finding, KBK Swami, is that we have a case which potentially could be explosive or could turn out to be a dud.
46:33But either way, the Karnataka police and the government need to come clean as to what really happened in Dharamsala and not be under any kind of pressure while investigating the case.
46:45You're joining me here and shedding more light on the legal dimensions to that big case.
46:51We'll keep tracking that story.
46:53Coming up on the other side, India Today's Get Real Out.
46:57News Today's Get Real India story tonight comes from Bihar's Darbanga, where students in a school are studying in an open classroom.
47:05Why?
47:06The full report on the other side.
47:08You're watching the news today.
47:09News without the noise.
47:11Let's turn to our Get Real India story, where we bring you stories from the ground across the country that often get lost in the noise of news.
47:24Today we turn to Darbanga in Bihar, where in an age of digital classrooms and smart education, a government school in Bihar's Darbanga district is telling a very different story.
47:35Here students have been learning under the open skies with a makeshift blackboard and no basic facilities for nearly 20 years.
47:42Get Real India.
47:44This is not a picnic, it is a school.
47:57About 5 kilometers from Bihar's Darbanga town, under the shade of a tree in Godhari village, this government primary school has been functioning in open air since 2006.
48:09The school has no building and no furniture.
48:14The principal, making the best of nothing, has painted the cement circle around a tree black and has created makeshift blackboards for classes 1 to 5.
48:26There are only three teachers for five classes. Often, one teacher handles two grades. Sometimes, even students teach their juniors.
48:51During rainy season, the school shuts down. On bright sunny days, the students shift their position to stay in the tree's shadow.
49:00Despite these odds, the school sees over 90% attendance. Midday meals are somehow prepared in a nearby community hall. But the irony? The school falls in the constituency of J.D.U.M.L.A.
49:05and Bihar's Social Welfare Minister Madan Sahani.
49:12People are here and they are here after school.
49:14When they are here and after school, the students go to office and they are here.
49:15Despite these odds, the school sees over 90% attendance.
49:21Midday meals are somehow prepared in a nearby community hall. But the irony? The school falls in the constituency of J.D.U.M.L.A. and Bihar's Social Welfare Minister Madan Sahani.
49:33The school is surviving on hope, innovation and the will to learn, but is in desperate
50:00need of help.
50:02Almost 5 km from Darbhanga city, this Jugadu school, as you can say, is a stark reminder
50:08that education crisis still persists in rural India.
50:13With Prehalat Kumar, Bureau Report, India Today.
50:21We have plenty of debates in this country about history, textbooks, language of instruction
50:27or medium of instruction.
50:29When will we debate on the quality of schools?
50:31Equal opportunity of quality education is a must for India to move to a Viksit Bharat.
50:38Let me leave you though with a good news today story.
50:41Our good news today story comes again from Bihar.
50:45And Rahul Gandhi, in this case, is making it appears all the right moves because the Congress
50:52leader has quietly built a pakka house for the mountain man, Dashrat Maji's son in Bihar.
51:00Dashrat Maji, known as the mountain man, cut a large mountain block to build a road to his
51:05native place, Gelor in Gay, all by himself.
51:08It also became the focus of a movie.
51:11But guess what?
51:12He didn't have a home.
51:14Rahul Gandhi stepped in quietly without the noise and has got him a home.
51:19Tonight's good news today story is on Rahul Gandhi's gift to the Maji family.
51:25In the shadow of the mountain, he carved to build a road.
51:32A new chapter is being written for Dashrat Maji's family.
51:38Weeks after Rahul Gandhi visited the mountain man's home, the leader of opposition is gifting
51:44Maji's son a pakka house.
51:46The Maji family is happily watching their old mud hut.
52:13The Maji family is happily watching their old mud hut transform into a solid home.
52:18The people who do not work, do not work, do not work, do not work.
52:26Dashrat Maji, who built a path through a mountain using limited tools, had passed away in 2007.
52:35Finally for the man who once moved a mountain with his bare hands, it seems the mountain has
52:40finally moved for his family.
52:43Bureau Report, India Today.
52:47Good on Rahul Gandhi.
52:51When netas do something good, well, they will be part of good news today as well.
52:57Now to an India Today fact check claim.
52:59Jagdeep Dhankar says, before resigning, I am a farmer's son.
53:03Not afraid of anyone.
53:06Truth is, the fact is, this is an old video from April 2025.
53:11So be careful when you forward that video.
53:14I want to leave you though with an image that has touched my heart today.
53:18I am a great admirer of Rishabh Pant because I believe he is a once in a generation cricketer.
53:23Someone who suffered from a near catastrophic road accident.
53:26Today the entire crowd was on its feet as Rishabh with a fractured toe went out to bat for India.
53:32He is truly one of the most courageous cricketers, gutsy cricketers that you can see quite apart from being an incredible talent.
53:40He scored a half century, but more than that, he carried the nation's pride with his sheer courage to go out and bat.
53:49To Rishabh Pant I say, salute.
53:52Jai Hind.
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