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Gavin Newsom had 'Monsters' producer Ryan Murphy on his podcast, where they talked about the possible upcoming release of the Menendez brothers.

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00:00Gavin Newsom is going to let the Menendez brothers out.

00:02They are going to be free men as early as next month.

00:07He has not said that, but he's as much as said that.

00:10And let me explain.

00:12Gavin Newsom, our governor, California, has a podcast,

00:17which is kind of weird in itself.

00:20And he had Ryan Murphy on his podcast.

00:25Ryan Murphy, who is a fabulous producer, best in the business.

00:32He is so good.

00:34You know, he did Monsters, which is about the Menendez brothers.

00:36But it's a fantasy about the Menendez brothers.

00:39You know, coming up with, here's what the scenario could have been like,

00:42or here's what it could have been like.

00:44Ryan Murphy got involved this year.

00:47This case has been going on for 35 years.

00:50So, and there have been a lot of experts on this.

00:54And Gavin Newsom is going to ultimately make the decision

00:58on whether the Menendez brothers go free or not.

01:01And, you know, the parole board is going to hear the case next month.

01:05And then it goes to Gavin Newsom.

01:07And either he's going to say, yes, they're free, or no, they're not.

01:10It's his decision.

01:12He has Ryan Murphy on this podcast.

01:16And is talking to Ryan Murphy about, you know, how do you feel about this?

01:20And Ryan Murphy is saying, yeah, you know, at first I doubted it.

01:25In the writer's room, everybody else wanted him to go free.

01:28And then I did the show, and I think they should go free.

01:32And furthermore, I sent an advance copy to Kim Kardashian.

01:37And she watched it, and she was obsessed with it.

01:39And she said they should go free.

01:43And so Gavin Newsom is asking Ryan Murphy about his opinions about this case when he's going

01:51to make a decision.

01:53And you just got to look.

01:55Before I tell you why I'm saying that he is going to release the Menendez brothers,

01:59here's a little bit of what he says.

02:01We're just a few weeks away, August 21st and 2nd, I think, where the parole board is going

02:09to make a decision and make a recommendation.

02:11To you.

02:11It lands on my desk.

02:12Right.

02:13Mr. Murphy.

02:14That's heavy stuff.

02:15Heavy stuff.

02:16I was astonished at how I went into something with such a predetermined point of view and

02:21came out of it, at the end of it, thinking, you know, where I am today is, I really do

02:27think they should be released.

02:29I do think they should be paroled.

02:31And I did not think that when I started.

02:33So, why is Gavin Newsom chit-chatting with Ryan Murphy about why the Menendez brothers should

02:42be released?

02:42First, I think, and I feel pretty confident on this, Gavin Newsom is looking for cover.

02:49Gavin Newsom knows that this is like, it's a 50-50 split in America.

02:55Half the people think they should be released, half think they should rot in prison.

03:00And Ryan Murphy, you know, produced a show that made people aware of this case who didn't

03:07know about it before.

03:07So, his opinion for them counts.

03:10Gavin Newsom is going to run for president, and he wants to soften the blowback he's going

03:17to get when he releases them.

03:19So, therefore, he talks, he puts his friend Ryan Murphy on, talks about Kim Kardashian and

03:25Ryan Murphy supporting the release.

03:28He's doing it for cover.

03:30If that's the case, what a wild political miscalculation by Gavin Newsom, who I think is a very savvy

03:35politician, if he's trying to use Ryan Murphy as cover, Ryan Murphy is the echo chamber

03:41of the voice to get the Menendez brothers free.

03:44And if he's putting him on his podcast and he's trying to curry favor with someone who

03:48is undecided on this issue, potentially, I think it's going to backfire.

03:51No, no.

03:52It's only going to shout into the echo chamber.

03:54Nobody's undecided.

03:55So, then what is he doing?

03:56What he's doing is people who watched Monsters were educated about the Menendez brothers through

04:03Ryan Murphy.

04:04Without question.

04:05And they're thinking, well, there are different scenarios.

04:07Which should I believe?

04:08And then the producer is the guy who's saying, hey, release them.

04:13And then everybody who's watching is saying, oh, well, that's the conclusion.

04:18The producer who's part of the lefty Hollywood establishment.

04:21Nobody thinks of him.

04:22Everyone thinks of Ryan Murphy that way.

04:23Ryan Murphy is the guy who created the lead.

04:25Ryan Murphy is the guy who creates all of these lurid Hollywood tales.

04:29They lost an election because they were viewed as being soft on crime.

04:32You're going to let two murderers out?

04:34He's going to let them out.

04:35They don't kill him.

04:37I truly believe that will come back to haunt him when he runs in 2028.

04:41He is going to.

04:42You know what?

04:43What a disastrous decision.

04:44Can I just say one other thing?

04:44How do you say you're tough on crime when you just let two guys who blew their parents

04:48hate?

04:48Like, come on.

04:49That's why he's looking for cover.

04:51But this is not good cover.

04:53This is Ryan Murphy.

04:54Well, listen, it may be a bad political calculation, but that he's made it clear.

04:59Look, all the other agree with you.

05:00I think he's going to do it.

05:01He's going to release him.

05:02I mean, he's the one move.

05:03It's a bad.

05:05Why would Gavin Newsom commit political suicide by releasing?

05:07What's the upside of releasing the Menendez brothers for Gavin Newsom's ambition to become

05:12president of the United States?

05:13I'm not.

05:13It's terrible.

05:14It's counterproductive for him.

05:15You may or may not be right on that.

05:17I am.

05:18I will bet you money he's going to release them.

05:21Francisco, Gavin Newsom is handling this in the best way possible.

05:25We have a good perspective right now.

05:27The series depicts a very complex and toxic relationship between kids and parents, and

05:32it makes me very nervous.

05:34Brothers killing their parents at age 18, that requires peeling so much onion.

05:39And the world has to unpack this really quickly.

05:42And I think we can learn a lot about toxic relationships between parents and kids.

05:46Everyone deserves a second chance, especially if you have committed a crime as a young adult

05:51or a kid.

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