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'So Very Wrong': Nancy Pelosi Warns Trump Planning To Replace Powell With 'Party Hack' As Fed Chair
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7/22/2025
On the House floor, Speaker Emerita Pelosi decried President Trump's attacks on Fed Chair Jerome Powell.
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From California, Ms. Pelosi for five minutes.
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I ask your amendment to consent to address the House for five minutes and two.
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Without objection.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of one of the bedrock principles of our economy,
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the independence of the Federal Reserve Board.
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For more than a century, the Federal Reserve has served as a cornerstone
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of the economic system of our country, taxed with safeguarding price stability,
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maximizing employment, preserving the health of our country,
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independent from political pressure, insulated from partisanship,
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and rooted in data and principle.
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When I first came to Congress, Mr. Speaker, I was a member of what was then called
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the Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee, now Financial Services.
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And at that committee, as it is today under the new name,
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we heard from the chair of the Fed on a specific amount of time required by Congress
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on two subjects.
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According to the Humphrey-Hawkins law, they would report to us on inflation,
01:12
and they would report on unemployment.
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Employment, unemployment.
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And that was their part of the purview in their communication with Congress
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that was required on a regular basis.
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We heard, I heard one of the chairs of the Fed say,
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unemployment is dangerously low, scared me to death.
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How could it be?
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But he was reporting as to its impact on inflation.
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One thing when I, that was when I was a new member,
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when I was Speaker, I said to our members who said frequently,
01:42
why don't we have the Fed be more accountable?
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To us, I said it has to be independent.
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They have their own funding.
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They don't have to come depend on us for that because their independence is essential.
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Any of us who had economics in college or beyond knows that independence of the Fed
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is essential to the respect that our country commands in terms of our own economy throughout the world.
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The chairman of the Fed is the chair of the central banks,
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serves as a chair of the central banks globally,
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and it can't be a party hack.
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It can't be somebody who's there because the president wants to create interest rates.
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That's not what the president's job is, to create interest rates.
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It's the chairman of, it's the Federal Reserve Board that does that.
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So it's really important.
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And I come to you on this day to say this because of the rumors that we hear of the flirtation
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with making the Fed just a handmaiden of the presidency.
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It would be wrong, it would be wrong to do.
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It would be wrong to do, and we would be viewed disrespectfully if we were ever to go down that path.
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Now, this comes at a time when we are observing the 15th anniversary of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform
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and Consumer Protection Act.
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As some of us here know who've served with Barney Frank,
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he was then a chair of the then Financial Services Committee
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and a master of his agenda there.
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And Senator Dodd from Connecticut was on the Senate side with that.
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It was necessary, Mr. Speaker, because of what was happening in the financial community.
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The banks were, I mean, it was awful.
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It was horrible.
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You all know that around, in September of 2008, we were told that our financial system was melting down.
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It was doing so because of, well, I've written about it in my book,
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and I won't go through the whole thing right now,
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but because of what was happening terribly in the financial system
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by the banks and financial services, financial institutions.
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What happened?
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Millions of people lost money, trillions of dollars from the wealth of the country,
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millions of people losing their jobs,
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so many losing their homes, losing their savings and the rest.
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So this bill was necessary.
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Of course, after the bill was passed, and to this day,
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still the banks and other financial institutions try to undermine it
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and weaken it and weaken it.
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The Volcker rule of former chair of the Fed had a provision in there
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for the security of our economic system.
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So these notions that they're putting forth of making the Fed a party chair, a party hack,
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it's just so very wrong, just so very wrong.
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And just say this, again, in school you probably learned a fiscal policy,
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and that's what the Congress of the United States does.
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We create the budget of the United States.
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And the monetary policy, fiscal here, monetary at the Fed establishing the rates
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in terms of relating to inflation.
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So let's rid ourselves, disabuse ourselves of notions,
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when instead we need serious ideas about how to make our economy work for the American people.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
05:37
Thank you, gentlemen.
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