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00:00so so my question is that what are your thoughts on um the developments in science and technology
00:09affecting what is right and what is wrong will it make it more clearer or will it make it more
00:15obscure for example uh now uh to take the example of um like uh animal cruelty by eating non-vigit
00:27non-vig and dairy industry say technology is now developing uh lab-grown meat and such alternatives
00:39where now that it is making it clearer what is right now even if people want to eat meat they can
00:46eat meat without animal cruelty but then there are also um technologies which are making it more
00:53obscure like for example uh during the pandemic when we were having online uh sessions and online
01:01exams um the technology allowed everyone to cheat in a way uh that would not be possible in offline
01:09accounts and they had many justifications for doing so uh in essence what i'm trying to say is uh the
01:17technologies and the technological development is giving us new options um so some options make it
01:27clearer that that option the option is right while some options still more confusion so i just want to
01:33hear your thoughts on how the technology and scientific developments affect what is right and what is
01:40that option these two are when it when it comes to the inner domain and how these two affect the person
01:53from inside these two are not in the same dimension science and technology you see science helps you
02:01learn the facts of the universe including the human body and the and the brain right that's what science enables you
02:14to look into and when that happens a lot of superstitions are cleared and beliefs needless beliefs are removed
02:24right and when those beliefs are gone then the inner center you operate from
02:34that improves
02:37i'll clarify through an example let's say you believe in racial supremacy
02:44as the nazis did right now you can have science that will tell you
02:52that when it comes to physicality the races are hardly any different from each other
03:05they were talking of the the pure aryan blood for example and science will tell you that when it comes to
03:12blood there are just those four categories and and then the the rh plus rh minus whatever
03:20there is nothing called an aryan blood
03:24you can be o you can be behave whatever but you cannot be aryan
03:29when you fall sick you do not go out looking for aryan blood
03:34so the center that you had the egoistic center that you had
03:40that is challenged rather clarified and purified by the findings of science
03:44science and science has helped human beings a great deal not just material materially not just
03:53physically but also internally
03:59you you think of the travails of the ancient man
04:03the fellow did not know what all those things above in the sky are
04:07sometimes he was thinking that it's a it's a large black canopy
04:12and all these things are little gems and diamonds studded on the canopy
04:18and all that would lead to a lot of inner confusion
04:23and that would translate into personal incapacity
04:27when you do not know who you are and the world you are operating in
04:34then then everything that you think feel or do simply goes haywire does it not
04:42i do not know why there is an eclipse
04:46and i might feel that i need to slaughter my neighbor
04:49to avoid the curse of the gods and that was indeed happening in several parts of the world
04:56the the sun appears hidden
05:00surely the god is demanding
05:03some sacrifice to reappear otherwise the god is threatening to go away
05:08and if the sun goes away that would be a bad thing
05:11so what do i do and then some learned priest comes over and says you know you need to sacrifice
05:18your neighbor because the neighbor in some way was aspiring to be the next priest
05:25but that's the hidden story
05:28so the neighbor has to be sacrificed and all those things are happening
05:32so backwardness in science leads to a lot of inner darkness also
05:40inner darkness the one who we are inwardly
05:44he needs science not not just spirituality he needs science to be a great human being
05:53the upanishads put it this way you need both vidya and avidya if you are to be of any avail
06:04vidya is knowledge of yourself your own inner processes how your thoughts operate your mind your
06:11feelings your impulses instincts reactions all those things relationships all those things
06:16so that's vidya and the upanishads very bravely and very forthrightly declare
06:26that if you do not have avidya avidya is knowledge of the universe which you could loosely call as
06:32scientific knowledge that if you do not have avidya there is no point having with there
06:38in fact they declare that between someone who has only vidya and someone who has only avidya the one
06:47having only avidya has an edge actually
06:52and then they say the the great one the liberated one
07:00is the one who has both with their and avidya
07:03if you want to cross over the ocean of ignorance you need knowledge
07:08in both the directions you need to know the world which is which comes to you from science
07:13and you need to know yourself which comes from self-observation
07:16so that's science for you now what's technology technology is application of science according
07:25to your own convenience or need or greed or interest or whatever right
07:32so science purifies the one within whereas technology is simply a toy in the hands of the one within
07:42you need to know the world which is the one within the world which is the one within the world
07:47if you really go deep into science and that is the reason why we find
07:55a lot of wisdom in the personalities of a lot of eminent scientists
08:01the same thing you cannot say for ceos of tech companies
08:05you cannot compare let's say a bill gates to an albert einstein very different
08:17so technology is simply your slave
08:22while science can make you better in that sense science can pull you upwards
08:28whereas technology is something that is always behind you
08:35you you you you are you are operating your slave called technology like a dog on leash
08:47getting it so so we need a lot of science to be better and we need a lot of self-knowledge to be
08:54better and if we do not have science and self-knowledge which is with the end of it there
08:59then unfortunately technology can be a very very dangerous thing
09:06technology in the hands of the wrong kind of population
09:11will prove disastrous to everybody
09:15disastrous towards the entire planet and self-destructive for the human species
09:23so progress in the field of technology alone does not mean much in fact it can be a thing of concern
09:30you would have heard that anecdote the monkey and the sword and the king and the king had this very pet monkey
09:42and the monkey too was fond of the king and the king went to sleep and the monkey was watching over
09:50and a fly came from somewhere and sat right on the nose of the king and the
09:58monkey was appalled such a great king and a mere fly is purged on the nose
10:03is purged on the nose so what does the monkey do
10:07picks up the sword and slash
10:09what does technology do instead of the sword it gives an intercontinental missile to the monkey
10:19and that's what has happened inwardly we are still monkeys but technology has given us huge power
10:27power that we don't even deserve power that we cannot even responsibly wield
10:37so science is useful spirituality is useful technology can be disastrous
10:44for technology to be of constructive use to human beings you would have guessed by now what is needed
10:54it is needed that
10:58growth in wisdom keeps peace with growth in technology
11:05if the rate of growth of wisdom lags behind the rate of growth of technology
11:13then we are hurling towards disaster
11:20do you think now the rate of growth of wisdom is matching the rate of growth of
11:24no way no way i think you too know that you just wanted it from me so
11:29we all know that we all know that we all know that the monkey has at most graduated to an orangutan
11:37but in no way are we still capable of being called human beings
11:43and we have unmatched power and you see what we have done with that power
11:49where is the forest cover you know the number of species that are going extinct every day
11:55we have been able to do that only because we have a lot of economic and technical power at our disposal
12:02and we are using that to ruin this planet in fact it's already gone
12:08already gone we are de facto in the sixth mass extinction phase so that's what we have done
12:16thank you sir
12:27thank you

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