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Jackson Wang joins us in the studio to talk music, touring, and what's next.
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00:00Jackson Wang, hello.
00:01Thank you so much for having me, man.
00:02Dude, it's so good to see you.
00:03I feel like for years we've been missing each other just barely,
00:06but now we're in the studio, we're here.
00:08Now that you have more time, that's when I show up, man.
00:12But thank you.
00:13Sorry that I was late today.
00:14It's all good.
00:15It's just exciting to have you in here.
00:17So first of all, how are you doing?
00:19I'm good.
00:21You know, I think by the time this airs, my album's out.
00:24Yeah.
00:25I mean, what, we're like three days away?
00:27Yeah, three days away.
00:27What are the feelings?
00:28I don't know, I'm nervous.
00:29Are you?
00:30I never expected this because it's special.
00:32You know, this time, this album is very personal.
00:35You know, it's a self-serving album in some sort of way.
00:38But I don't know.
00:39When it's three days left, one week left, I get nervous.
00:44Tell me about, I mean, as a whole.
00:46So like the follow-up to the previous album,
00:49like was there any thoughts of like,
00:51why basically are you continuing a story or what's the theme for it?
00:55I think for Magic Man, Magic Man has always been, you know,
00:59even a lot of my fans don't know about this.
01:01You know, they're like, hey, why are you always doing the dark makeup?
01:03Like what's the devil concept?
01:05Like what is going on?
01:06And actually, Magic Man, this thing, this name represents my internal emotions.
01:12It's like I meet you bro today, but I don't know who that person is inside.
01:16You know, so it represents that.
01:19And I think, you know, for a long time,
01:21debuting at such a young age and I wasn't ready for anything, you know,
01:28and that represents, you know, for a long time,
01:31I've been trying to avoid the person inside me.
01:35Like, and I just didn't want, I wanted to escape.
01:39Because obviously I didn't have time to think for the past 10 years.
01:43It's just packed schedules in the ecosystem of big corporate company,
01:50in a boy band, you know, there's,
01:52it's just things after another that I missed a lot of my youth, you know.
01:56And yeah, so I took a year off last year.
01:59I took a year off.
02:00Felt like, you know, I needed some time to breathe,
02:05to breathe, to breathe and to even understand who I really am, you know.
02:10Because it's the question of,
02:13am I the Jackson Wang that people know of,
02:15for the people that who know, who know me?
02:17Or am I the Jackson Wang who I think I am?
02:19And I couldn't even answer that.
02:21Like, who, so what am I?
02:22You know, so I took a year off and, you know,
02:25spent a lot of quality time with my family, you know,
02:29started writing journals, how I feel about humanity
02:31and what life is in at the end of the day, you know.
02:35And yeah, and I converted them into music.
02:39And this is what the entire album is about.
02:42Wow.
02:42So that's crazy that it's,
02:44was it all created within the year then?
02:46Yeah, yeah.
02:46I, it's like the first time when I'm creating
02:51without having a pressure of,
02:53I have to release them.
02:55You know, that's why I just kept writing, writing,
02:56writing journals, going to sessions.
02:58I just travel with like a couple of friends,
03:00which also like they're producers,
03:02to, to certain cities that we've,
03:04I've never really been, been that,
03:10like go out there and just lock ourselves up.
03:14You know, we, we, we live together,
03:15we eat together, we drink together,
03:17we party together, we work out together.
03:18So it's just, it's like a camp.
03:21And sometimes, you know, it takes weeks
03:24and we have nothing, you know,
03:26but it's letting it breathe, you know,
03:28letting that creative space,
03:30creative thought to, to, to,
03:31to come out whenever it's ready.
03:33Yeah.
03:34Yeah.
03:34How good did your brain feel
03:35after like a detox like that?
03:37Did you almost feel like renewed?
03:38Like I'm like, oh, I'm like a new.
03:39It's good.
03:40It's, it's really good.
03:41I felt like I needed that.
03:42I realized a lot of things
03:44and I found my center.
03:47And, but also like, I'm, I'm like,
03:49I'm a workaholic.
03:50Yeah.
03:50So even with like two, three days doing nothing,
03:54I start to get anxiety.
03:55I'm like, shit, what's, what should I do?
03:57What's next?
03:57What's next?
03:58Okay.
03:58And maybe I should call somebody
04:00and start some new projects.
04:01And, you know, yeah.
04:02Yeah.
04:03So it's been, but in general, I needed that.
04:06Yeah.
04:07It's a good lesson to learn.
04:07Like rest is productive.
04:09A hundred percent.
04:09And also giving time to yourself
04:12and also loving yourself more
04:14because every single day, you know,
04:15with social media, too much information,
04:17every single day,
04:17everyone is constantly like outputting.
04:21Oh my gosh.
04:22But when, when, when, when is the time for myself?
04:25That's like everybody, you know?
04:26So I think it's important, even for my fans,
04:28this album, I wanted to share with them that,
04:31hey, this is the journey that I've been through.
04:33This is the experience.
04:34And I, this is how I recovered.
04:37And the entire, the main message of the album is
04:40a lot of things at the end of the day,
04:42it's just whatever that happened,
04:44whatever that happens, accept it
04:46and move on with it.
04:48You know, that's a process of you evolving
04:51and being mature.
04:53Yeah.
04:53And, and by doing that,
04:55you have to give yourself room
04:56and, and love and time and effort.
04:59Yeah.
04:59I love that.
05:00How do you think your relationship
05:01has changed with your fans?
05:03Maybe not changed, more so like grown.
05:05I don't know.
05:06I think, um, I, I try to,
05:08I try my best to be me,
05:11you know, a lot of times
05:12because it comes to that question.
05:14It goes back to that question again,
05:16where am I the Jackson one that they know
05:18or am I the one that I know?
05:19Right.
05:20So yeah, that's why I started even,
05:23uh, during that one year break,
05:25I just started posting things
05:28or, you know, sharing things
05:30as raw as it could be, you know?
05:32And I don't know what,
05:35this is the thing.
05:35I don't know what they are thinking right now.
05:38Yeah.
05:38But I, one thing that I can promise
05:39is off camera, on camera,
05:41I'm the same.
05:41And I'm just the same guy.
05:44Yeah.
05:44Yeah.
05:45Um, with the album though,
05:46are you a numbers guy at all?
05:47Like with the date that is coming out
05:49with, uh, you know, 11 songs on it,
05:51do you think about that stuff at all?
05:52Or is it just kind of up to chance?
05:54Uh, you're talking about like
05:57how much engagement do I get?
05:59I mean, no, I'm talking about actual numbers.
06:00Like, do you, you know,
06:01no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
06:02It's just whenever, uh,
06:04Idiot Rising is, uh, ready.
06:05Okay.
06:06Yeah.
06:07That's perfect.
06:08I love it.
06:09Speaking of numbers though,
06:10track three, you feature,
06:11I'm so sorry.
06:11I'm going to butcher the name.
06:12The track three.
06:13Dilget?
06:13Yeah, yeah.
06:14Yeah.
06:14He's like a legend all over.
06:16So cool, man.
06:17I mean, like,
06:18tell me about navigating the sound of the album
06:20and like taking some risks.
06:21This is a thing, man.
06:22Sonically, I didn't really care this time.
06:24It's just very personal to me.
06:26And it's just gut feeling.
06:28Like whenever I created the song,
06:29I'm like, oh, what,
06:31what kind of feeling am I?
06:32What's the first,
06:33when I talk about hate to love
06:34or when I talk about G bat,
06:36when I talk about this,
06:36what's the first instinct?
06:38And I just went for it.
06:40Yeah.
06:40It wasn't like,
06:41oh, is this acceptable by everybody?
06:44Or is it some ear candy?
06:46Is it universal?
06:48Like, I wasn't thinking that.
06:49That's why I'm also nervous.
06:50I just don't know how people are going to take it.
06:52Yeah.
06:53Speaking of that instinct,
06:54do you ever have somebody tell you like,
06:56oh, you should probably not do this?
06:58A lot.
06:59Yeah.
06:59Even when,
07:00do you want to join this conversation?
07:01Come on in.
07:02No, come here.
07:02I just feel so bad.
07:04Come here.
07:06Come here.
07:06We've been friends for a long time.
07:08The last time we met was in a crew.
07:11Got it.
07:11We were in a party.
07:12Perfect.
07:12We were in two different parties.
07:14Yeah, we were.
07:14You showed up.
07:16I was in a room with my fellow staff,
07:19which is someone's birthday.
07:21And then the next room,
07:23they're there.
07:24Right.
07:25Jake.
07:26Jake.
07:27Who's Jake?
07:28From CJ.
07:29From CJ.
07:29Oh.
07:30He was there.
07:30Remember,
07:30he was in your party.
07:32Yeah, probably.
07:33There you go.
07:33There's just a lot of people
07:35know a lot of other people
07:36in that space.
07:37Small industry.
07:37Yeah, and we're like,
07:38hey, hey, hey.
07:39And then.
07:39How do I like move this chair down
07:41just so we're all on the same level?
07:43Oh, oh, come out.
07:44Oh, you got him up.
07:45Okay.
07:47Did you move your chair down?
07:49I did, but.
07:50Yeah, but then he moved it back up.
07:51There you go.
07:52Is that good?
07:53Hey, man,
07:53I got to stand up for myself.
07:54I got to stand up for myself.
07:56Hey, hey, hey.
07:56Should I come back up?
07:57What are you all doing?
07:57I need to up on my shirt a little more.
07:59Because I'm going to have the same level to you.
08:01What do I do?
08:01Okay.
08:03People may be giving you some advice
08:05or advising you in a certain way,
08:07but you trust that gut instinct
08:09or vice versa.
08:10Someone's told you something
08:11and you're like,
08:11oh, I would have never thought that way,
08:12but it worked out.
08:13Even before this one-year break.
08:18I've never done that since 19.
08:21And it's the first time.
08:22I'm like, you know what, guys?
08:23I need to take a one-year break.
08:24And all the partners or brands
08:26or this and that,
08:27they were all like,
08:29hey, no, man,
08:29I think we respect that,
08:32but no one's going to remember you anymore.
08:36You know, every day,
08:37there's so much content.
08:38You know, like today,
08:40this guy pops up,
08:42this celebrity pops up,
08:43people aren't going to forget you.
08:44You know, are you sure about that?
08:45Like all these conversations.
08:48Yeah, so,
08:49but I was like,
08:50you know what,
08:50but I needed it.
08:51I couldn't,
08:51I felt like I was going to die.
08:53Wow.
08:53Yeah.
08:54I wanted to ask you about like
08:55your process in creating Solo
08:57compared to with a group.
08:59How's the approach change?
09:00Anything at all?
09:01That's the difference.
09:02Like as a group,
09:02I feel like it's us.
09:04It's never me.
09:05And it's never you.
09:06It's us.
09:07You know,
09:07it's votes, right?
09:11Hey, what's the best for us?
09:13But for me,
09:14it's just me.
09:16But also,
09:17the other difference is,
09:18you know,
09:19as a group,
09:20for at least for more than seven years,
09:22it's under a big corporate company.
09:24Right.
09:24And a lot of time,
09:25you know,
09:25there's pros and cons,
09:26but big corporate company,
09:28how I personally feel is
09:29they like stability.
09:33They like stability,
09:34you know,
09:35and not too much on the risk side,
09:38you know,
09:39and also the big,
09:40with big corporate companies to me,
09:43everything's covered.
09:45You just need to show up
09:46and be able,
09:47just focus on your delivery.
09:48You need to execute.
09:50And done.
09:50You're,
09:51you get off work.
09:53But as a solo artist,
09:55I just,
09:55I'm my own A&R.
09:56I'm my own manager,
09:57you know,
09:57especially with other big artists
09:59or any corporate label artist.
10:02There's like 50,000 layers in between.
10:05You can never reach the artist.
10:07Yeah.
10:07You can't even have conversation.
10:08Like you don't even,
10:09you're guessing what they're thinking.
10:11But for me,
10:12you know,
10:12I make sure that any collaborations
10:13or any partnerships that I do,
10:15even with brands,
10:17you just talk to me.
10:18Yeah.
10:18Yeah.
10:19And I don't have a manager
10:20and the entire team is just me
10:22and the other,
10:23the other dude out there,
10:24Troy.
10:25That's amazing.
10:25Yeah.
10:26Cool.
10:26Which by the way,
10:27I just want to say,
10:28now that I'm like in it,
10:29I want to contribute something.
10:30Congrats on Python.
10:31I mean,
10:32Hey,
10:32thank you.
10:32Yeah.
10:33You're aware.
10:33Thank you so much for the research,
10:35man.
10:36That's not research.
10:37I thoroughly enjoy the song.
10:40It's a great song.
10:41So like,
10:41congrats on that.
10:42And then like jumping back
10:42into your solo stuff.
10:43I love it.
10:44Yeah.
10:44Yeah.
10:45Yeah.
10:46Every time,
10:46you know,
10:47with the boys,
10:47I'm always like,
10:49it feels like,
10:49off work to me
10:52because I don't have to care
10:53about anything.
10:54You know,
10:54like it's just everything's,
10:56we have meetings,
10:56everything is so efficient.
10:58It's a corporate,
11:00big companies partnership.
11:01So I just need to show up
11:02and make sure that I kill it.
11:04Yeah.
11:04In my part,
11:05you know.
11:05That's awesome.
11:05Yeah.
11:06I love that.
11:06Yeah.
11:07By the time this comes out,
11:08your album will be out.
11:09So you can technically,
11:10you can technically tell us now,
11:12what's your,
11:13what's your favorite song?
11:13Like right now.
11:14I don't have it.
11:15No,
11:15no favorite.
11:15But I think like the title song
11:17for the entire album,
11:19it's the last song.
11:20It's a conclusion at the album
11:21where except everything
11:23and all the good and the bad
11:24is what made me who I am today.
11:26And the title of the song
11:28is called made me a man.
11:29Yeah.
11:30Yeah.
11:31And that's the song
11:31that we're playing.
11:32Please.
11:33I need it.
11:34The album's out
11:35and no one noticed.
11:36My team didn't even notice.
11:37My team didn't even notice.
11:39Yeah.
11:39So gosh,
11:40we'll get them on it.
11:41I need this,
11:42bro.
11:42Yeah.
11:42I got,
11:43I'm here for you.
11:44No worries.
11:44All your posts,
11:45delete all your posts
11:46on social media
11:47and it's just made me a man.
11:49That's it.
11:50Like 20 posts.
11:51We'll trade phones for a day.
11:52We'll just start posting content
11:53and it'll be good.
11:54KCON's coming up.
11:56Yeah.
11:56Do you always try to one up
11:56these shows and festivals?
11:58Like I've never performed
11:59in KCON as a solo.
12:00So I,
12:01and it's been a long time,
12:02you know,
12:02since GOT7.
12:03So I don't know
12:04what to expect.
12:05You know,
12:05I don't know how,
12:06what's,
12:07how much I can give.
12:11And,
12:12you know,
12:12I don't know.
12:13Yeah.
12:13The level.
12:14Can I go full out
12:15or can I go like,
12:16you get me?
12:17And I just don't,
12:17I don't want it to be
12:18my last KCON,
12:19you get me?
12:19Right.
12:20Yeah.
12:20Oh,
12:21you want to do more?
12:22Yeah,
12:22of course.
12:22Yeah.
12:23Nice.
12:23But I just don't want
12:24to be like inappropriate.
12:25You get me?
12:26Oh,
12:26you're booted.
12:27Yeah.
12:28I'm just worried.
12:28Like they're like,
12:29Hey,
12:30we like your shit,
12:31but I don't think
12:34it's,
12:34it's too much
12:34for our audience.
12:35Oh,
12:36is it like the blow
12:36choreography and stuff
12:37like that?
12:38No,
12:38it's more crazy than that.
12:39It's crazier than that.
12:40And even the makeup.
12:41I don't even know
12:41should I do the makeup
12:42or not?
12:43So,
12:43Oh,
12:44yeah.
12:44Yeah.
12:45Wow.
12:45I'm learning so much.
12:46I can't wait to see it.
12:47His magic man stuff
12:48is just,
12:49yeah,
12:49it's great.
12:50He did a lot of it
12:50at like the Coachella stage
12:52and like whatever.
12:53It was crazy.
12:53Congrats on that,
12:53by the way.
12:54I'm like a legitimate fan.
12:58I feel like I keep telling you this.
12:59You're killing it,
13:00dude.
13:00Are you a person at all
13:01that ever gets like
13:01imposter syndrome?
13:03What is that?
13:03Oh,
13:04see,
13:04that's my answer.
13:05You don't know?
13:06It's like when you feel
13:08as if like I'm doing all this,
13:09people are celebrating me,
13:10but I don't deserve it.
13:11Deep down,
13:11I feel like I don't deserve it.
13:12a hundred percent.
13:13Yeah.
13:13I don't know why either.
13:14Like,
13:14I don't know why I can't have
13:16certain shows
13:17or even when I'm on tour.
13:19I don't know.
13:19I don't even have a hit song.
13:21You get me?
13:21I don't even have that.
13:23I don't even have a management
13:24or a label,
13:25you know,
13:25and then I,
13:26so people sometimes I wonder
13:28like,
13:28what is it?
13:29That's why I tend to always ask
13:31my,
13:31you know,
13:32community and fans like,
13:33what is it?
13:35Yeah.
13:35So a lot of times,
13:36you know,
13:36when I'm by myself,
13:37I tend to honestly think like,
13:39fuck,
13:40I'm wearing this.
13:42I don't know if I own this.
13:46You know what I mean?
13:47Yeah.
13:47Honest talk.
13:48No,
13:49for sure.
13:49Even Rihanna said she has it.
13:51So like,
13:51that means everybody is,
13:53if she has it.
13:53No,
13:54I bet she is mistaken.
13:56Like she,
13:57she,
13:57she,
13:58if she doubts herself,
13:59then I feel like humans need to doubt
14:01themselves.
14:02A hundred percent.
14:03Yeah.
14:03Absolutely.
14:05Brooke,
14:05before we wrap,
14:06any other questions?
14:07Cause I feel like.
14:08I,
14:08no,
14:08I don't.
14:08This is your,
14:09I'm here for emotional support.
14:12Yes.
14:13Emotional support for you.
14:14Yeah.
14:14There is a couple of radio things I would love to do with you.
14:17That's okay.
14:17We do the segment.
14:18It's new.
14:18It's called love them or list them.
14:20Okay.
14:20So it's about a girl or a guy calling in,
14:22giving us the situation about.
14:24It's real time.
14:25Yeah,
14:25but it's written.
14:26So I'm going to read it to you.
14:27No.
14:27Oh shit.
14:27Okay.
14:28Hey,
14:28I'm down.
14:29Whatever you want me to do,
14:30man.
14:30Okay.
14:31So why are you leaving me?
14:32Why are you leaving?
14:32You want me to come back?
14:34What's this?
14:35Oh,
14:35I'm so sorry.
14:36Okay.
14:36So you're going to help us decide if she should love him or list them.
14:40And we'll just navigate it as we go.
14:43Hey,
14:43Annie,
14:44I'm just brute.
14:45Just help me.
14:45You don't stand up for me.
14:46No,
14:46I'm joking.
14:48I'm joking.
14:49Oh my gosh.
14:50Careful.
14:50These are wheels.
14:51Let's go.
14:52All right.
14:52All right.
14:53I was going to say,
14:54pick the mic up if you're going to.
14:55No,
14:55no,
14:56no,
14:56we're good.
14:56I like the stability here.
14:58Brew,
14:58I was seeing this guy.
14:59We really got along.
15:00I was actually feeling like we could get pretty serious and we had to talk about it multiple times.
15:04He agreed one day.
15:06He just told me that it feels like he's too busy to maintain a relationship right now.
15:09In my opinion,
15:10he didn't seem much busier than anyone else.
15:12I know,
15:12but is that the cop out or can you really just be too busy for relationships?
15:16Even if you really like the person.
15:18So she's asking brew.
15:20Yeah.
15:20We,
15:20do we love them or list them?
15:21Like,
15:21does she continue to try it?
15:23Or she like let them go and list them.
15:27You can answer her.
15:29Like you weren't,
15:30you weren't even there.
15:32How,
15:32how would you know?
15:33I know.
15:34There's too little information.
15:36What the fuck,
15:37man?
15:38That's the point though.
15:38It's like,
15:39we talk about it.
15:39It's like,
15:40he doesn't seem that busy,
15:41but like,
15:42that's the only information that we had.
15:46What,
15:46what,
15:46what is this?
15:47What is this job?
15:48What is this job?
15:49What,
15:50how old is he?
15:51Do it from your family background.
15:52We don't know.
15:53From your perspective.
15:54Like as you.
15:55I can't judge shit.
15:56What?
15:57I can't,
15:57I can't judge.
15:59What?
15:59I'm saying like,
16:00so you're,
16:01what if you were talking to a girl?
16:02Yeah.
16:03And you,
16:03you were like,
16:05you know what?
16:05I'm just too busy for you.
16:06Okay.
16:07Then I'm a,
16:07I'm a,
16:08I'm a ask.
16:09Like,
16:09like I said,
16:10what's,
16:10what's his background?
16:11How do you grow up?
16:12You know,
16:12like what,
16:13what industry is he in?
16:15What work?
16:15You know,
16:16where does he live?
16:16Context is everything.
16:17You're like,
16:18I need that.
16:18It was,
16:19you can't just ask crazy questions like that.
16:22Yeah.
16:22He's got blue eyes.
16:23What should I do?
16:23Crazy blue eyes.
16:24Wow.
16:24But sometimes at night it's like,
16:26what?
16:26Yellow.
16:27Like the fuck man?
16:28Maybe it's a light problem.
16:30You know,
16:30we don't know.
16:31It could be like a doctor.
16:33And she's like,
16:33crazy question.
16:34What's the name of the username?
16:35I'm not going to tell you.
16:36All right.
16:37Cool.
16:37Just show me.
16:38Her name's a man.
16:38I'll show you later.
16:39We'll have you deal.
16:40That's insane,
16:40man.
16:41So no advice.
16:43It's a very,
16:43it's a very radio question.
16:44You got to keep things short and simple for listeners.
16:46Yeah.
16:46We got to get to the point.
16:47So,
16:47and then you kind of like,
16:49you just gauge like,
16:50oh,
16:50okay.
16:50So your ex said,
16:51I'm too busy for you.
16:52Oh,
16:52well then that's not your man.
16:54Yeah.
16:54That's what I would say.
16:55I don't think you can't,
16:56that's too fast of a judgment,
16:57right?
16:57I think,
16:58I think my suggestion is ask him more,
17:03find out more information,
17:04like get to the,
17:05get to the bottom of this.
17:06Yeah.
17:06You know,
17:07just go all in.
17:08Yeah.
17:08So we're going to love him.
17:09We're going to let,
17:10yeah.
17:10We're going to keep talking.
17:11We're going to love talking to him first.
17:13We're going to love,
17:13we're going to love asking him questions first.
17:16Yes.
17:16Yeah.
17:17Very good.
17:17We're going to have boundaries.
17:18And then ask Bru.
17:19Yeah.
17:19Which is great.
17:19Yeah.
17:20Amazing.
17:20Next question.
17:21Yeah.
17:21Should we pull up another one?
17:23No.
17:23Is that the craziest one?
17:24No,
17:25it's not the craziest,
17:25but it was like,
17:26it felt like not relatable,
17:28but you know,
17:29what's the craziest one that you got?
17:30Oh my gosh.
17:30So like one of it,
17:31if they're on,
17:32if they have an only fans,
17:33like you,
17:34you,
17:34is that like a job?
17:36You're good to,
17:36you know,
17:37respect that profession.
17:39It was only feet though.
17:40Oh,
17:40only fans for dating.
17:41Yeah.
17:42Dating.
17:42I mean,
17:43it depends more context,
17:44man.
17:45Like,
17:45what does the feet look like?
17:47No,
17:47is it like,
17:48you know,
17:49I think it's fine.
17:50Even if it's not for feet,
17:52you know,
17:52I think it's,
17:53it depends on how you,
17:55how much you love this person,
17:56man.
17:56Like it's just a profession at the end of the day.
17:58Right.
17:58Like it's just,
17:59we're not like what,
18:00three years old.
18:00Right.
18:01We're,
18:01we're adults and you know,
18:03everyone's everyone.
18:04It's just different industry.
18:06And,
18:06and then,
18:07it depends on how open you are and depends on how open your family is.
18:10Right.
18:10And how traditional your family is.
18:12I think it's just choices,
18:14man.
18:15If you,
18:15if you're okay with it,
18:16fuck it.
18:17Yeah.
18:17Yeah.
18:18Okay.
18:18What was your response?
18:20I'm curious.
18:21Fuck that.
18:21That would change my response.
18:23You're too mature for this radio show.
18:24It's not.
18:24What was your response?
18:26I'd be like,
18:27again,
18:27this is first date stuff.
18:28Not like if you love them,
18:29of course you're going to stand by them.
18:30But this is like,
18:31it's like deal breaker stuff that happens on a first date.
18:33Like,
18:33I just told me his job is this.
18:35Is the feet?
18:35Uh,
18:36he sells feet on.
18:37Okay.
18:37But also have you seen on live?
18:42Have you seen her feet though?
18:44How much you love the feet?
18:45If you love it to a certain extent that you don't want people,
18:49other people to see this baby,
18:50then,
18:52you know,
18:52or you're just like,
18:53oh,
18:53it's neutral.
18:54Like,
18:54why not?
18:55Yeah.
18:55He was calling in as if it was probably not the best thing.
18:57So he was like,
18:58he was a little distraught by it.
18:59So I'd be like,
19:00dude,
19:00if it's going to be,
19:00if you know deep down,
19:01you're never going to be okay with it.
19:02If you love the feet,
19:03if you love her feet so much,
19:06you should care.
19:07You should be like,
19:08I can't let anybody see this.
19:10Yeah.
19:10You know?
19:11Yeah.
19:11But if you're just okay with it and you know,
19:13then cool.
19:14Just let it go.
19:15Let it fly.
19:15So magic man too.
19:18Anyway.
19:19Bring it back in here.
19:20No,
19:20dude,
19:21it's been so fun.
19:21I know you're such a busy dude and we appreciate you like landing some time and,
19:25and letting us know what's going on in life.
19:26Um,
19:27anything else you need to know about the album,
19:29about your life?
19:30What's going on with you?
19:30I'm starting only Vans.
19:34You heard it here first.
19:36Jackson away.
19:37Just the feet,
19:38man.
19:38Just the feet.
19:39Jackson's feet.
19:39I'm just kidding.
19:40I'm just kidding.
19:40A lot of people like it.
19:41No,
19:42it's my album.
19:42They pay you a lot.
19:43My,
19:43oh really?
19:44Yeah.
19:44Damn.
19:44They pay a lot.
19:46Um,
19:46my,
19:46um,
19:47my album is out magic man too.
19:49It's very personal to me.
19:51And I feel like that's,
19:53um,
19:54uh,
19:56the main message of magic man too is just about any situation that you come across at the end of it.
20:02At the end of the day,
20:03you tend to just accept it and move on and mature and evolve.
20:08So spend more time with,
20:10with your inner self and love yourself more.
20:13I think that's super important because we're living in a generation within us in a society
20:17with too much information every single day.
20:19We're always outputting,
20:21you know,
20:21where we,
20:22some of the,
20:23some of the trend might be throwing us off.
20:26A lot of times we can't find our center.
20:28We're lost.
20:29We don't even know who we are anymore.
20:30A lot of times.
20:31So make sure to give yourself room and time and effort and love.
20:36Yeah.
20:36That's it.
20:37I agree.
20:37That feels like a good message too.
20:38Any last message for the fans?
20:39Yeah.
20:40I've been riding with you.
20:41Nice message.
20:42Subscribe to my,
20:44Jackson's OnlyFans.
20:46I'm just kidding.
20:47I love that.
20:48I love this so much.
20:51Just kidding.
20:51For God's sake.
20:53Awesome.
20:55Yeah.
20:55Nothing.
20:56I just feel like,
20:57you know,
20:57I wouldn't be here without all my supporters,
21:01my community,
21:01my fans.
21:02And so I appreciate that.
21:03I remember that every single day and love you.
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