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So I think just going back to that idea of exceptional longevity, looking at the genetic
00:04
makeups of these exceptional centenarians, what did you find? Welcome to The Future You,
00:10
a new series by Men's Health, where we talk to the leading experts in health and longevity to
00:14
help you live longer and stronger. I'm your host, Rich Dormant. In this episode, we're talking with
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longevity expert, Dr. Nir Barzilai, about growth hormones and metabolism. We found many genetic
00:26
components that slows aging in those centenarians, and two of them have actually been created into
00:35
drugs. The drugs are not to target aging, but to target some of the diseases of aging. Those drugs
00:42
were developed by Merck, one of them, and by Ionis and other pharmaceutical. They all pass phase-free
00:47
trial, and they're coming to a pharmacy next to you, I think, soon. But I want to talk more about
00:54
about the most common alteration, genomic alteration. So it's about growth hormones.
01:03
And in centenarian, in 60% of our centenarians, we find some alteration in their ability of growth
01:11
hormones to act. Now, I should just tell you, there's only one growth hormone, but there are
01:16
hundreds of growth hormones. Okay, one is called growth hormone. But no matter which growth hormone
01:24
you're seeing, it's altered in a lot of our centenarians. And what does it mean? It really means
01:33
that when we are young, we need growth hormone, because we need to spend our energy and growing
01:44
and be as tall and handsome as you, and be strong and resilient. But then we get to over the age of 50,
01:53
and we're starting to break down. And it doesn't make sense to spend the energy on growth when we have
02:01
a lot of issues that we have to take care of. So our centenarians, for example, one of the major growth
02:09
hormone that represents the whole pathway is called IGF-1. IGF-1 levels, so we take centenarians,
02:18
for example. They're all only 100 years old. But centenarians have a chance of dying, you know, 30% a
02:25
year. So they're going to die now. Those with the lowest IGF-1, with the lowest growth hormone,
02:32
live twice as long as those with not. So even at 100 years old, it's good to decrease this growth hormone.
02:40
And we did another thing. We, there is actually pharmaceuticals, several pharmaceuticals were
02:47
trying to develop this anti-growth hormone therapy for cancer, okay? Because cancer is one of those
02:55
things that grow, and actually have those receptors for growth hormone, and they try to stop them.
03:01
And the drug was good, but it didn't stop the cancer. So we took the drugs and actually tried
03:08
first in, in animals. And we showed that even if we give animal later life, this drug, they live much
03:16
longer and much healthier. So we can discover in humans, develop a drug, go back to animal and prepare,
03:24
you know, the next generation of treatment for people. Metabolism is a huge buzzword in wellness
03:33
right now. Glucose is the new gluten. Lots of people are thinking all about metabolism. You've been
03:39
thinking about metabolism for a long time, particularly in the context of longevity, and in particular, brain
03:45
health and brain functioning. Can you talk about your research there, and what some of those
03:51
developments have been over the last 10 or 15 years that have, are making their way into the market?
03:57
Metabolism is one of the hallmarks of aging. And people sometimes ask me, what is your favorite
04:04
hallmark? And I say, you have five daughters, who's your favorite daughter? If you tell me,
04:09
I'll tell you which is my favorite. Because the point is, we target one, we target the other, right?
04:16
So I'm trying, because of that, by the way, many people come and they write paper and said,
04:23
our hallmark is in the center. Because you know what? When you treat that, you affect all the others,
04:28
which all the others can do too, okay? This is internal debate between us. So I'm just saying,
04:35
yeah, I came from metabolism. I believe in metabolism. But this is only one of the hallmarks. You know,
04:41
when I started thinking about a drug called metformin. The most prescribed drug in America,
04:48
is that correct? Yes. But not for what we're talking about. Well, you know, metformin is a drug
04:56
that's taken chronically in people with type 2 diabetes. And it's been out in the world for 80 years
05:06
in the United States only since 1993. But there's more billions years use of this drug than almost
05:14
any other drugs that exist in the formulary. Not only that, it's also the cheapest drug in the US
05:20
formulary. And what is it doing for those who have type 2 diabetes? And then what are its applications
05:25
for those who perhaps are not diabetic, but want to find other uses for it? So back to metabolism. So
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let me start with that. Metformin is an extract of the French lilac. But it's not nutraceutical
05:37
because it's actually modulated. But it was used between the 1920s and 1950s in Europe
05:45
because mothers or doctors or something said, you know, this will treat your arthritis. This will prevent
05:51
flu or cold. This will prevent malaria. It was used for many things because people realized there's
05:58
something in it. And at that time, they realized that people with diabetes who are taking this drug,
06:05
their glucose is lower. So it was kind of hijacked to diabetes. And a lot of people are telling me,
06:13
hey, you know, this is a diabetic drug. And I'm saying, no, it's actually not a diabetic drug. It's
06:17
probably an aging drug, okay, that was repurposed already for diabetes. That was the order of thing.
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It's also kind of interesting that when metformin came to the United States, very late,
06:31
okay, very late in the 1990s, the FDA said, we have to study and see if metformin is work on us Americans.
06:42
Okay, the British were not enough, the Danish were not enough.
06:45
It's empty. And as part of that, there was, you know, people said, what does that metformin do for
06:54
diabetes? And I happened to be the fellow at Yale that answered this question. I took diabetic patients,
07:02
I gave them metformin and did sophisticated tests to show that it improves the insulin
07:08
action in the liver. That doesn't matter. But that was the metabolism. So even now, people said, you're wrong.
07:14
Metformin is doing this. And I said, yeah, who wrote the paper? And they see that it's me, okay?
07:20
So I can actually move away from that. I didn't know at that time. Really, I didn't think of metformin,
07:26
although aging was my interest all the time. This was a project and I didn't realize the serendipity here.
07:32
But okay, so now you have this drug metformin and you start noticing incredible things. You start
07:40
noticing that people in metformin have less cardiovascular disease and less dementia and
07:46
less cancers. And you start having actually studies, clinical studies, and you know, there's
07:54
studies association, right? We look at diabetic patient with and without metformin and we see
07:59
less cancer. That's not really good because it wasn't designed to test that. It was kind of
08:05
an observation. What really you have to watch in order to, and I'm saying it's for the public,
08:12
you really want always a clinical study means I want a drug and I want a placebo and everybody's
08:20
blinded and we'll see what it does. So metformin in a clinical study prevents diabetes. In a clinical
08:27
study prevents cardiovascular disease. In a clinical study prevents decline from cognitive impairment.
08:37
In a study, it prevents mortality. So you started all of a sudden getting data that for some were
08:46
confusing because what is it that it prevents this and that and that? And that's back to, yeah,
08:52
that's aging. Okay. Because it targets aging. So if you target in the wrong time, it's going to
08:58
prevent whatever disease you're going to get next. I don't know what it is, but it's the aging
09:03
that is going to drive this disease. And so that's in short metformin.
09:08
Why isn't it in the water? If it has all of these amazing byproducts for
09:13
the people who are taking it, why isn't everybody taking it?
09:16
So it's interesting. It's already pre-COVID. So it's five or 10 years ago that the governor of
09:23
Singapore asked me to come to consult to the prime minister office. And I said,
09:30
I'll be happy to consult, but if I can have questions before I can give you answer. And one of
09:36
the questions was exactly that. What about putting metformin in the water? And Singapore is one place
09:41
that can do it. And the answer is not. Okay. The answer is not. And part of it, we kind of discussed
09:49
before, metformin is not the right drug for people who don't have the signs of aging. So for example,
09:59
metformin lowers growth hormone, which is good in old people, but it's not good in young people.
10:05
It's not good in people your age who are also exercising and building muscle.
10:09
That's not when we have to give you metformin. So the answer is metformin is not for everyone,
10:16
but metformin has been repurposed to, first of all, obesity. It's not the best,
10:23
they're much better drugs, but people on metformin lose on average five, eight pounds.
10:29
It was repurposed for women with PCOS, with polycystic ovary syndrome.
10:34
And when I say repurposed, the FDA didn't approve for that. Just doctors can do it and they do
10:41
clinical trial. A clinical trial that it prevents diabetes. Okay. Non-diabetic patient. Okay.
10:47
You're asking about diabetes and not diabetes. That's non-diabetic. It prevents, it prevents diabetes.
10:52
The FDA didn't approve it for pre-diabetes, but people are using it. It's now repurposed for COVID.
11:02
So, and I think that's an important point. During COVID, nine studies around the world,
11:10
all showing the same thing. People on metformin have less hospitalization and less death.
11:15
So, in the United States, there was a clinical study. Again, you know, it was controlled for
11:23
other drugs, actually, in this case. And they showed that people who get metformin within three
11:29
days of positive COVID, usually in the first day, they had 50% less hospitalization death and 60%
11:37
less long COVID. It was in the New England Journal of Medicine, in Lancet. I'm throwing just really
11:42
reputable. Okay. So now a lot of people, I mean, when people say we have COVID, I'm not feeling well,
11:49
what should I do? I said, take metformin. Okay. So it was repurposed for metformin. And not only that,
11:55
now a lot of people are taking metformin for aging because they know that it's coming.
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