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Glucose, Weight Loss, & Metformin, Dr. Lachs | The Future You | Men's Health
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Okay, so we're starting, you know, almost 40 years ago as a young clinician.
00:05
Fast forward to today, you're at the forefront of patient care in this field.
00:09
When you look back on your career and at those front lines,
00:13
what are some of the biggest and most exciting developments that got us here
00:17
to not only extending healthspan, but extending lifespan?
00:20
Welcome to The Future You, a new series by Men's Health,
00:22
where we talk to the leading experts in health and longevity
00:25
to help you live longer and stronger.
00:27
I'm your host, Rich Dormant.
00:29
In this episode, we're talking with longevity expert Dr. Mark Lacks
00:32
about glucose, weight loss, and metformin.
00:35
Well, we are beginning to understand the basic biology of aging.
00:41
And I never would have said this even five or ten years ago,
00:45
but I do think in the next decade or two,
00:48
you'll go to your internist, your family doctor,
00:51
and you might be taking medications.
00:54
And I'm going to be very careful about this.
00:56
I'm not going to say reverse aging.
00:58
But I think that will delay the effects of aging.
01:03
The first medication that you might hear about is a drug being tested called metformin,
01:09
a drug that's used for diabetes, pennies a pill,
01:13
used in Europe for 40 or 50 years.
01:16
And it seems to affect many pathways involved in cell aging.
01:23
And there's a large randomized trial now in which many people are going to get metformin or a placebo.
01:30
And they're looking at things like the onset of chronic diseases,
01:35
getting cancer 10 years later or heart disease 10 years later,
01:38
but also things like how quickly you walk,
01:41
what your cognition is like, what your muscular strength is.
01:44
So this is just one of many medications that are in the pipeline.
01:52
And people say to me, well, you know, what's the big deal if you delay the onset of, say,
01:56
Alzheimer's disease by five years?
01:59
Well, first of all, the cost to society.
02:01
And if you pass away from something else,
02:06
maybe bungee jumping or rollerblading or doing something you like,
02:10
you know, that's a better way to go.
02:13
Tell me about SGLT2 inhibitors.
02:15
Well, you're talking about the drugs that everybody wants to take?
02:19
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know if you saw the Oscar performances.
02:22
You know, Jimmy Kimmel looked down at the beautiful audience and said,
02:26
you know, I look at this audience and I think, should I ask my doctor,
02:29
is Ozempic right for me?
02:33
I think there's an extraordinary relationship
02:36
that we don't fully understand between weight and aging.
02:42
I mean, you see people who are overweight and sometimes you'll see they look much older
02:46
than their chronologic age.
02:52
And when they lose weight, the opposite happens.
02:55
We're starting to untangle the biology of that.
02:59
Metformin is a drug that has been used for weight loss, for example.
03:03
And look, besides whatever the biochemistry is,
03:05
you don't have to be a doctor to know that if you're running
03:08
and adding another 40 pounds to those knees that are getting arthritic,
03:14
it can't be good.
03:15
And then there's the increased risk factor for diabetes
03:18
and heart disease and other cancers, those kinds of things.
03:23
Were you surprised by the centrality of glucose in this conversation now?
03:29
I mean, we mentioned it when we talk about, you know, things like Ozempic.
03:32
We talk about it when we talk about Menformin.
03:34
It seems like it's a topic on everybody's mind right now
03:37
in a way that maybe it hadn't been commonly about 10 years ago.
03:40
I think there's glucose is but one marker of, you know,
03:46
metabolic changes as we age.
03:48
It's a propensity for people, even if their diet is controlled
03:51
and they maintain on your body weight towards pre-diabetes or diabetes.
03:57
And there, too, the quantified self has really been important.
04:01
So we have a Dexcom now.
04:04
We have people now without diabetes.
04:06
Those are continuous glucose monitors.
04:07
Correct.
04:08
And so you don't have to stick yourself as you do in a diabetic
04:11
when I was training.
04:13
And so now people are looking at their glucose
04:16
over the entire course of the day, non-diabetics.
04:20
And we're starting to learn a bit,
04:22
and your readers will be interested in this,
04:23
about the order of foods in which we eat them.
04:26
So there have been these fascinating studies,
04:29
some at my place at Weill Cornell Medicine,
04:32
where the same meal is given to an individual for breakfast.
04:38
It's a muffin and some scrambled eggs.
04:41
And when you give the muffin first and the scrambled eggs afterwards,
04:45
there's this extraordinary excursion in glucose.
04:48
If you give the protein first and the eggs first,
04:51
and then the muffin 10 or 15 minutes later, the carbohydrate,
04:55
that excursion is much lower.
04:57
And we're learning about the order of foods
04:59
and the relationship between diet and aging,
05:02
both at the clinical level and at the molecular level,
05:06
is just being uncovered.
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