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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36J'ai dû voir sur quelque chose.
06:39J'ai dû voir sur quelque chose.
06:42Il n'est plus en soi.
06:46Il n'est plus en moi.
07:19I mean I'm starting from the beginning with doing everything in 4k and I'm doing all the restorations myself so I'm doing it's all coming from me and you can buy them directly from me at bynwr.com I'll sign your box set and send it off to you I am yeah I'm a huge fan of 4k like I love 4k I think 4k is like amazing because so many films can be rewatched
07:49with even better quality and and who doesn't want that you know so it's kind of like a new layer of the new normal for me so I decided to do all my films in 4k slowly rolling them out you know
08:03I think cinema and television for that matter is has had a very tough time in the last 10 years or so 10-15 years gaming social media VR canvases are exploding and they're constantly evolving because technology is allowing them to evolve movies and television TV is becoming more and more just content
08:33and movies and movies are still that window of exclusivity of the collective experience but I think that movies also needs to reevaluate themselves I remember when we were in Cannes for Only God Forgives and I after everyone had been booing me for so long that during my stay I did say look you can be angry with me and about my film
09:03and predict what it's going to predict what it's going to be like if you want to predict what it's going to be like if you want to make films in the future and I was right because right after Only God Forgives the industry changed because of Netflix Netflix was the game changer and it changed not so much what we're making but it's how we experienced film and content essentially how we viewed it and I think that to justify or for a movie to exist
09:33rather than what it used to be
09:34violence is like sex
09:38violence is like sex it's all about the build up
09:40bang bang and then it's to the other wall
09:43now make it dirty unique interesting never seen before in violence
09:46I'm not that strategic but I will say that it everything is an evolution of something
09:57and there can be a tendency when something is liked
10:03that everyone wants the same same but I don't necessarily think that's true
10:09it's better to give them something else or something different
10:13or something that destroys your past in order to make something new
10:19to transition
10:20you know obviously the two films are very different
10:23but what ties them is myself and Ryan's interaction
10:28however I find that interesting
10:30it's like taking something and turning it on its head
10:34it's taking the ultimate superhero in one movie and emasculating him in the next
10:39it's taking one movie that's very poppy and another movie that's very esoteric
10:45and that I think is what makes the world interesting
10:50is that things can become different
10:52it can evolve into other components
10:55rather than just always staying in the same repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly run out of steam
11:02in my opinion
11:03I was very happy but obviously
11:06you know a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and a lot of booing and screaming
11:12but then I was like
11:13that's kind of cool
11:15because then you're like the sex pistols of cinema
11:18you know you're like the one everyone throws bottles at
11:21but you can't deny it existence
11:23you can't really criticize it
11:25because I did it my way
11:27the world will see it as it continues to evolve
11:31and you just have to be
11:33you have to just to be trust yourself
11:35so you never lose your vision
11:36when you have that strong reaction
11:38no on the contrary
11:39you're like it's like energy
11:41it's like just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets about only God forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49and it is
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive
11:52is there a doctor in the house?
11:54we need to get a medic in here
11:57is there a doctor around?
12:00when you were mentioning 2001
12:02it says in Kane
12:03you forgot to add Drive
12:04we'll let that slip
12:06we won't know about Drive
12:08for another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made in 1968
12:17I made this film about 4 years ago
12:204 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole of humanity
12:28what was funny about talking to Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man who had struggled a lot
12:34in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then gone into sorceress
12:43and you know
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years
12:49and I think that was
12:50what was so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had such an effect on him
12:54it's a little bit like
12:55Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorcerers
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably their best films
13:04for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10so they lose their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards
13:14and I was like
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right
13:19you're wrong
13:19I mean I've done two shows
13:26one with Amazon
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making
13:30obviously
13:30but I don't know
13:32how much I want to continue
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38and go and make movies again
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts
13:44you know
13:45and trying to find other areas
13:49of creativity
13:50but I think it's time
13:52to go make a film again
13:53You said you work on two shows
13:55but you work on The Famous Five
13:56or something
13:57So The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I just
14:01how do you say
14:02executive produced
14:03or created
14:04but I had no involvement in it
14:06otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of concept
14:09and the story
14:10based on these very famous books
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read the books
14:15when they were young
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books
14:18so it was more like
14:19a past history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity
14:23Well I mean
14:28if something is interesting
14:29you know
14:30why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings
14:32in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful people
14:35but in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really want
14:39is just to be free
14:40when you work in Hollywood
14:42there is a contract
14:44some people love that
14:45and can work within that
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now
14:51but who knows
14:51maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53you know
14:55big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun
14:59maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:00to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end
15:03you should just
15:04make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing
15:06having creative control
15:08which is
15:08easier enough
15:10but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden on you
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get
15:17you know
15:18recouped
15:19and then you have to make
15:20a certain type of movie
15:21you don't have the freedom
15:22to do whatever you want
15:23because you're
15:24you're a slave
15:25to the economics
15:26if your film costs
15:28200 million dollars
15:29or 100 million dollars
15:30you need to make
15:31300-400 million dollars
15:32to break even
15:33that already puts a strain
15:34on what kind of movie
15:35can you make
15:36and I don't want
15:37any conditions
15:39on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to be
15:42completely free
15:45I mean
15:48in the beginning
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking
15:50about another drive
15:51but it was like
15:52that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of
15:55So never?
15:56Never
15:57I've been very lucky
16:07to live
16:07a fun life
16:09and
16:10it has nothing
16:12to do with fame
16:13you realize
16:15very quickly
16:16it has
16:17that I've had
16:18opportunities
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24and
16:25it's all been
16:26a lot of fun
16:27but I think
16:28when I started
16:29the idea
16:31of being seen
16:32was very essential
16:33the idea of fame
16:34and fame
16:35being
16:36it's like
16:37an opportunity
16:38it's like
16:38a stage
16:39one thing
16:40is becoming famous
16:41the next
16:42what are you going to do
16:42with it
16:43and obviously
16:44it's like anything
16:45it's an opportunity
16:46I will say
16:49I will be
16:50I will be
16:51I will still work
16:52I will also work
16:54I will
16:55I will
16:55I will
16:57I will
16:58I will be
16:59here in Bangkok
17:00six months
17:01and Yang
17:01will be
17:01again
17:02I will
17:03for the next film
17:03and I have said
17:03yes to the film
17:04process
17:04the process
17:04it's new
17:06that we are
17:07with him
17:08when he filming
17:09last
17:10when he got a drive
17:11I came back
17:12home
17:12back with the kids
17:13and it
17:14took 10 months
17:15Et c'est trop difficile pour eux-mêmes.
17:45Tu regardes des films ?
17:48J'ai vu beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune.
17:52Mais maintenant, c'est plus difficile.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo.
18:02Ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre la semaine dernière à Tokyo,
18:16où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:24Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38N'est-ce pas sans moi ?
18:41Non !
18:42Non !
18:43Non !
18:44Non !
18:45Non !
18:46Non !
18:47Non !
18:48Non !
18:49Non !
18:50Et tu es aussi dans Death Stranding ?
18:51Je suis Heart Man,
18:52et Heart Man est toujours dans Death Stranding.
19:00Je pense que tu ne crois pas tout ce que tu lis sur Internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Tu peux te dire quelque chose ?
19:05C'est quelque chose ?
19:06Je crois tout ce que tu lis sur Internet.
19:07Ah, ok.
19:35Je crois que tu es ici ?
19:36Je crois que tu es mir que je dors.
19:37Bien Matthias.
19:38Je crois que tu chladre.
19:39C'est beau.
19:40C'est un
19:50gros injuste.
19:51T'es quel genre.
19:52C'est explicant des commandes ?
19:53Qu'est ta served ?
19:54Des commandes sport cuadrées ?
19:55Ou alorsû 핑 hareps ?
19:56Contrées.
19:57Moi, en voce que tu lis,
19:58Mamère,
19:59推チes la tête.
19:59Quantить esthensible.
20:00Dior.
20:01Que comme ça ?
20:02儿 Maxim m'am.
20:03Sous-titrage FR ?