John and Chino explore the transformation of healing ministries from sincere belief into constructed mythology. They begin by examining how large revival crowds, particularly in developing nations, can be misleading—offering a sharp critique of the assumption that attendance equals spiritual legitimacy. They recall firsthand experiences and documented reports showing the absence of verifiable healings despite claims of supernatural events. Chino emphasizes how the charismatic framework often elevates unverifiable testimonies above truth, with peer pressure and group psychology reinforcing unproven narratives.
As the discussion deepens, they critique high-profile figures like Hobart Freeman and TL Osborne, dissecting the culture of exaggeration, borrowed authority, and unverifiable claims. They reflect on the distinction between biblical healings and modern faith-based claims—especially how real miracles in Scripture were visible, verifiable, and often witnessed by many. The conversation ends with a sober warning against the danger of constructing belief systems around emotional testimony rather than truth that can be tested. ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books
00:00:30Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:00:37I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research at william-branham.org.
00:00:43And with me I have my co-host, minister, and friend, Cheno Ross,
00:00:47pastor and the voice of The Understanding Scripture and Truth by Cheno D. Ross YouTube channel.
00:00:53Cheno, it's good to be back and to talk about all things that anger both sides of the cessationist, continuationist debate.
00:01:03It's kind of funny, I mentioned last time, I don't put myself in either category.
00:01:08I don't like to be wedged into a box, and I grew up, unfortunately, I was wedged into a box most of my life.
00:01:15But after you get out of that box, you start to critically think about everything.
00:01:21Once that floodgate opens where you can actually stop and think about the things that happened,
00:01:26I carried it, as you know, to extremes, and I'm researching all kinds of things,
00:01:31but there were many things that I myself didn't think about and should have.
00:01:37One of them, we just, I think it comes out before this podcast, if I remember correctly.
00:01:44I just recorded a podcast with Bob Scott talking about his experience on the New Adams Farm.
00:01:52And we were discussing, it was a tragic story, which has unfortunately made the news for all the wrong reasons.
00:01:59But the story is quite an incredible story.
00:02:02However, he was talking about something that I thought about it some, but not really until he mentioned it, did it click?
00:02:11All of these faith healers, they go over to developing nations, like Africa.
00:02:17This was an African story.
00:02:20And all they have to do is advertise free food.
00:02:24And people flood by the thousands.
00:02:28You'll get 100,000 people if you offer them a meal or some kind of handout.
00:02:33Or at least that's how it used to be.
00:02:34I don't know if it's the same today, but it made me stop and think.
00:02:39I started, in my mind, taking inventory as he was talking about the different revivals that made Branham famous.
00:02:46And it began with the miraculous healing of hundreds of thousands.
00:02:52I can't remember the exact number that he threw out there, but it was an incredible amount.
00:02:58In Canada, which isn't in the United States, which isn't easily verifiable.
00:03:03And I came across this publication by Alfred Pohl, who was a minister that he was part of the crew that organized Branham's campaign meetings.
00:03:12And he said that he had countless newspaper reporters and journalists coming up trying to find these so-called healings so that he could verify them.
00:03:24And they could put them in the newspapers.
00:03:25And they couldn't find one, but they could find several deaths.
00:03:29And the same thing happened in Africa.
00:03:31But you see these photographs of tens of thousands of people filling these stadiums in Africa.
00:03:37And it never really clicked until he said it.
00:03:41And I took inventory.
00:03:43If all of those people in those meetings had been converted to the cult, there would be a ginormous cult presence right there.
00:03:51And there is a lot.
00:03:52Don't get me wrong.
00:03:53But it's nothing like the pictures show.
00:03:55And that would be exponential because those people would produce offspring and it would grow.
00:04:00And, I mean, the whole of Africa would have been converted if this were the case, if this were true.
00:04:06But it got me to thinking about just taking inventory of what we were told as these legitimate healings.
00:04:16They would say that he's a vindicated prophet because he had healed these people.
00:04:21And that sparked a movement.
00:04:23And you had hundreds of evangelists doing the same thing.
00:04:26They might have prophecies or visions.
00:04:29A ridiculous number of them claimed that they had an angel with them and was helping them do this, that, or the other.
00:04:36But you did not critically think about the fact that they're asking you to prove their angel or their prophetic visions or their dreams or etc.
00:04:48They're asking you to vindicate those by the healings themselves.
00:04:51And yet the healings themselves were so problematic, you couldn't really point a finger at one person or another that's healed.
00:04:58Instead, what they had was what's called positive confession, which you and I have talked about.
