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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:57Et j'aime l'extrême, donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans la fantasy, ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années, mais comme un show de TV.
05:12Et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy, qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:17Il y a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes.
05:20Mais je n'étais plus intéressé dans la manière dont j'étais, parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible et la plupart du tout est réel, ou à l'est qu'il peut être très réel, capturé de moment à moment.
05:39Et ce sont plus efficaces, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler ça dans mon version.
05:47C'est fantasy, et c'est ça que j'ai été plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le monde réel et de être plus excités par se passer dans le space théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je me suis sûre qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire, je n'ai jamais eu de créateur de l'unreur pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à vraiment changer.
06:27Je me regarde donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps, il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je dois continuer à faire quelque chose.
06:38C'est parti !
06:48They're talking about you, boy
06:52But you're still the same
06:56There's something inside you
07:02It's hard to explain
07:07They're talking about you, boy
07:13But you're still the same
07:18Oh, absolutely
07:19I mean, I'm starting from the beginning
07:21With doing everything in 4K
07:23And I'm doing all the restorations myself
07:25So I'm doing
07:25It's all coming from me
07:27And you can buy them directly from me
07:30At bynwr.com
07:32I'll sign your box set
07:34And send it off to you
07:36I am, yeah, I'm a huge fan of 4K
07:40Like, I love 4K
07:42I think 4K is like, oh, amazing
07:45Because so many films can be re-watched
07:49With even better quality
07:50And who doesn't want that, you know
07:53So it's kind of like a new layer of
07:56The new normal for me
07:58So I decided to do all my films in 4K
08:01Slowly rolling them out, you know
08:03I think cinema and television for that matter
08:10Has had a very tough time
08:12In the last 10 years or so
08:1410, 15 years
08:15Gaming, social media, VR
08:18Canvases are exploding
08:20And they're constantly evolving
08:22Because technology is allowing them to evolve
08:24Movies and television
08:26TV is becoming more and more
08:28Just content
08:30That you almost look at
08:31While you're doing other things
08:33And movies are still
08:35That window of exclusivity
08:37Of the collective experience
08:39But I think that movies
08:41Also need to re-evaluate themselves
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes
08:46For Only God Forgives
08:47And I, after everyone had been
08:49Booing me for so long
08:51That during my stay
08:53I did say, look
08:55You can be angry with me
08:57And about my film
08:58But I am from the future
09:01And I'm going to make something
09:02That's going to predict
09:03What it's going to be like
09:05If you want to make films in the future
09:07And I was right
09:09Because right after
09:10Only God Forgives
09:11The industry changed
09:12Because of Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15And it changed not so much
09:18What we were making
09:18But it's how we experienced
09:20Film and content, essentially
09:23How we viewed it
09:24And I think that to justify
09:26Or for a movie to exist
09:28In longevity
09:29You have to see
09:31What a film can become
09:33Rather than what it used to be
09:34Violence is like sex
09:38It's all about the build-up
09:40Bang, bang
09:41And then it's to the other wall
09:43Now make it dirty
09:44Unique, interesting
09:45Never seen before in violence
09:46I'm not that strategic
09:52But I will say that
09:54Everything is an evolution
09:56Of something
09:57And there can be a tendency
10:00When something is liked
10:03That everyone wants the same same
10:07But I don't necessarily think that's true
10:09It's better to give them something else
10:12Or something different
10:13Or something that destroys your past
10:16In order to make something new
10:19To transition
10:20You know, obviously
10:21The two films are very different
10:23But what ties them is
10:25Myself and Ryan's interaction
10:28However, I find that interesting
10:30It's like taking something
10:32And turning it on its head
10:34It's taking the ultimate superhero
10:36In one movie
10:37And emasculating him in the next
10:39It's taking one movie
10:41That's very poppy
10:42And another movie
10:43That's very esoteric
10:45And that, I think, is what makes the world interesting
10:50Is that things can become different
10:52It can evolve into other components
10:55Rather than just always staying in the same repeat lane
10:59Because you very quickly run out of steam
11:02In my opinion
11:03I was very happy
11:05But obviously, you know
11:07A lot of harsh reactions
11:09And a lot of booing and screaming
11:12But then I was like
11:13That's kind of cool
11:15Because then you're like
11:16Sex pistols of cinema
11:18You know, you're like
11:19The one everyone throws bottles at
11:21But you can't deny it existence
11:23You can't really criticize it
11:25Because I did it my way
11:27The world will see it
11:29As it continues to evolve
11:31And you just have to be
11:33You have to just be
11:34Trust yourself
11:35So you never lose your vision
11:36When you have that strong reaction?
11:39No, on the contrary
11:39You're like
11:40It's like energy
11:41It's like
11:42Just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47About Only God Forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49And it is
11:49I just didn't make it very expensive
11:52Is there a doctor in the house?
11:54We need to get a medic in here
11:57Is there a doctor around?
12:00When you were mentioning 2001
12:02I said,
12:03You forgot to add drive
12:04We'll let that slip
12:06We won't know about drive
12:08For another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10Whether it lives or dies
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made in 1968
12:18I made this film about 4 years ago
12:20So it's about time
12:204 years is a zip
12:21It's not even a blip
12:23It's not a pimple
12:25On the asshole of humanity
12:28What was funny about talking to Billy Freakin
12:30Was that it was
12:31He had a man who had struggled a lot
12:34In Hollywood
12:35And started very successfully
12:39At a young age
12:40And then gone into Sorceress
12:43And, you know, was still traumatized
12:47By that experience after so many years
12:49And I think that was what was so sad
12:51In a way
12:52That it had such an effect on him
12:54It's a little bit like Michael Cimino
12:56Doing Heaven's Gate
12:57These amazing films
12:59Both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate
13:02Are probably their best films
13:04For some reason
13:05Get so destroyed
13:07And then they lose sight of themselves
13:10Or they lose their confidence
13:12And it affects all the other movies
13:14They make afterwards
13:15And I was like
13:16I'm never going to be like that
13:17Because I'm right
13:19You're wrong
13:19I mean, I've done two shows
13:26One with Amazon
13:27One with Netflix
13:27And I like what I was making, obviously
13:30But I don't know how much I want to continue
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38And go and make movies again
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts
13:44You know, and trying to find other areas of creativity
13:50But I think it's time to go make a film again
13:53You said you work on two shows
13:55But you work on The Famous Five or so
13:57The Famous Five was a television show
14:00That I just, how do you say
14:02Executive produced or created
14:04But I had no involvement in it
14:06Otherwise I just created the kind of concept and the story
14:10Based on these very famous books
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books
14:15When they were young
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books
14:18So it was more like a past history thing
14:21That came up as an opportunity
14:23Well, I mean, if anything
14:28If something is interesting
14:29You know, why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood
14:33Met wonderful people
14:35But in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37That's all I really want
14:39It's just to be free
14:40When you work in Hollywood
14:42There is a contract
14:44Some people love that
14:45And can work within that
14:47It's maybe not so much my thing right now
14:51But who knows
14:51Maybe next year I'll do a big
14:53You know, big superhero movie
14:56That could be fun maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open to anything
15:01But at the same time
15:02At the end
15:03You should just make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing having creative control
15:08Which is easier enough
15:10But it's where all the money that's invested
15:13Puts a burden on you
15:15Because all that money has to get recouped
15:19And then you have to make a certain type of movie
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want
15:23Because you're a slave to the economics
15:26If your film costs $200 million or $100 million
15:30You need to make $300-$400 million to break even
15:33That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make
15:36And I don't want any conditions on me
15:39At all
15:41You have to be completely free
15:43I mean in the beginning
15:49A lot of people were talking about another drive
15:51But it was like
15:52That would be the worst idea I've ever heard of
15:55So never?
15:56Never
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life
16:09And it has nothing to do with fame
16:13You realize very quickly
16:16It has that I've had opportunities
16:19And I've been able to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24And it's all been a lot of fun
16:27But I think when I started
16:29The idea of being seen
16:32Was very essential
16:33The idea of fame
16:34And fame being
16:36It's like an opportunity
16:38It's like a stage
16:39One thing is becoming famous
16:41The next
16:42What are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously
16:44It's like anything
16:45It's an opportunity
16:46Therefore I hit like Mount Cavill
16:48It's like a stage
16:50There's a lot of work
16:51You can do it all the time
16:52I also have to work
16:54I was also
16:55We will be here in Bangkok
16:59In 6 months
17:00Yang Han will make his next film
17:02And I have said yes to the process
17:04It's a new thing
17:06We are together with him
17:08When he filming
17:09At the last time he did drive
17:11I was home in Denmark
17:12With the children
17:13And it took over 10 months
17:15And it was just for hard
17:17To be away from each other
17:18My daily life is
17:22I have a routine
17:23I wake up
17:24I do two hour sports every day
17:27Then I usually have lunch
17:29Then I get yelled at by my kids
17:32I work at night
17:34And then try not to get to bed too late
17:39And then Friday comes
17:41And it's weekend
17:42And you try to relax a little more
17:45And the next day is Monday
17:47You watch movies?
17:49I used to watch a lot of movies
17:51When I was a lot younger
17:52But now it's just harder and harder
17:54There's other things
17:55That I find interesting
17:56Like what?
17:58Well I did my first exhibition
18:00That just opened in Tokyo
18:02And that's been a lot of fun
18:03To do that
18:04A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Yeah
18:07Can you talk about that?
18:09Well it's
18:09I created an exhibition
18:11That opened in Friday
18:14Last week
18:15In Tokyo
18:16Where I built this installation
18:18Between us
18:20I saw my wife
18:21And my daughter
18:22In the procession
18:24Hey
18:24It's me
18:26Where are you going?
18:33Wait
18:34Don't live without me
18:40No
18:42Don't go
18:44Please
18:45Don't go
18:47And you are in Death Stranding 2
18:50I am Heart Man
18:52And Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding
18:55I think that
19:01Don't believe everything
19:03You read on the internet
19:04Can you tease us something?
19:06Well believe everything
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