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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je dois continuer à changer d'une autre chose.
06:38Je vois.
06:40C'est parti.
11:14cool because then you like sex pistols of cinema you know you're like the one
11:19everyone throws bottles at but you can't deny it existence you can't really
11:24criticize it because I did it my way the world will see it as it continues to
11:30evolve and and you just have to be do you have to just to be trust yourself so
11:35you never lose your vision when you had that strong reaction no on the contrary
11:40you're like it's like energy it's like just wait for the next one I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets about only God forgets I think it's a masterpiece and it is I
11:50just didn't make it very is there a doctor in the house we we need to get a
11:56medic in here is there is there a doctor around when you were mentioning 2001
12:02citizen Kane you forgot to add drive we'll let that slip we won't know about
12:07drive for another 30 years 30 seconds whether it lives or die I'm talking
12:13about films 2001 was made in 1968 I made this film about four years ago four years
12:20is a zip it's not even a blip it's not a pimple on on the asshole of humanity well
12:28what's funny about talking to Billy freaking was that it was he had a man who
12:33had struggled a lot in Hollywood and started very successfully at a young age
12:40and then gone into sorceress and you know was still traumatized by that
12:47experience after so many years and and I think that was what was so sad in a way
12:52that that that it had such an effect on him it's a little bit like Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate these amazing films both sorceress and Heaven's Gate are
13:02probably their best films for some reason get so destroyed and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves or they lose their confidence and it affects all the other
13:13movies they make afterwards and I was like I'm never gonna be like that because
13:18I'm right you're wrong
13:20I mean I've done two shows one with Amazon one with Netflix and I like what I was
13:29making obviously but I I don't know how how much I want to continue I may want to
13:37take a break and go and make movies again I've decided to do more visual arts you
13:45know and trying to find other areas of creativity but I think it's time to to
13:52to to go make a film again you said you work on two shows that you work on the
13:56famous five also the famous five was a television show that I I just how do you
14:02say executive produced or created but I had no involvement in it otherwise I just
14:07created the kind of concept in the story based on these very famous books the
14:12famous five was more because my kids would read the books when they were young I
14:16remember my mother reading me the books so it was more like a past history thing
14:21that came up as an opportunity
14:24well I mean if anything if something is interesting you know why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood met wonderful people but but in
14:36the end I like my freedom that's all I really want is just to be free when you
14:41work in Hollywood there is a contract some people love that and can work
14:46within that I it's maybe not so much my thing right now but who knows maybe next
14:52year I'll do a big you know big superhero movie that could be fun maybe I don't
14:59know I'm pretty open to anything but the same time at the end you should just make
15:04what makes you happy it's one thing having creative control which is easier
15:10enough but it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you
15:16because all that money has to get re you know recouped and then you have to make a
15:20certain type of movie you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want because
15:24you're you're a slave to the economics if your film costs 200 million dollars or
15:29100 million dollars you need to make three four hundred million dollars to break
15:32even that already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make and I don't
15:37want any conditions on me at all you have to be completely free I mean in the
15:48beginning a lot of people were talking about another drive but it was like that
15:53would be the worst idea I've ever heard of so never I've been very lucky to live a
16:08fun life and it has nothing to do with fame you realize very quickly it has that
16:17I've had opportunities and I've been able to work with people I've met people I've
16:23spoken with people and it's all been a lot of fun but I think when I started the
16:30idea of being seen was very essential to dear fame and fame being an opera it's like
16:37an opportunity it's like a stage one thing is becoming famous the next what are you
16:42going to do with it and obviously it's like anything it's an opportunity
16:47I don't have any love I don't have any love I don't have to work all the time
16:52I also have to work I also have to work I also have to work
16:56I also have to work
16:58We're going to be here in Bangkok for six months
17:00Yang Han is going to make his next film and I have said yes to the film process
17:04I'm in prison it's a new that we're together with him when he's filming
17:09my daily life is I have a routine I wake up I do two hours sports every day then I usually have lunch then I get yelled at
17:30I get yelled at by my kids.
17:33I work at night
17:34and then try not
17:36to get to bed
17:38too late and then
17:39Friday comes and it's weekend
17:42and you try
17:44to relax a little more and the next day
17:46is Monday.
17:47I used to watch
17:50a lot of movies when I was a lot younger
17:52but now it's just harder and harder.
17:54There's other things that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well, I did my first exhibition
18:00that just opened in Tokyo
18:02and that's been a lot of fun
18:03to do that.
18:04A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Can you talk about that?
18:08Well, I created an exhibition
18:11that opened
18:13Friday last week
18:15in Tokyo where I built
18:17this installation between us.
18:20I saw my wife
18:21and my daughter in the procession.
18:24Hey, it's me!
18:27Where are you going?
18:33Wait!
18:38Don't live without me!
18:42No!
18:43Don't go!
18:45Please!
18:46Don't go!
18:48And you are in Death Stranding 2.
18:51I am Heart Man
18:52and Heart Man is forever
18:54in Death Stranding.
18:57I think that
19:01don't believe everything
19:03you read on the internet.
19:04Okay.
19:04Can you tease us something?
19:06Well, believe everything
19:07you read on the internet.
19:08Okay.
19:08fine.
19:17Beíze!
19:18Begynd to see a beautiful film.
19:20lme
19:20and
19:21listen.
19:21See you all.
19:21Bye.
19:22Bye.
19:22If you leave here yet.
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