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Join Finn Macdiarmid as we sit down with Medway Volleyball Club's Bruce Hertogs as the player-turned coach discusses his life in the sport and how his junior programme has grown.
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00:00Hello and welcome to Invicta Sport, the only show on your TV dedicated to Kent's sporting action.
00:18Today we're bringing you an interview with Bruce Hertogs, a volleyball coach who once played around the world
00:23before deciding to train the next generation right here in Medway. We hope you enjoy.
00:27Well, thank you for joining us, Bruce. Now, we always like to start out with how you first fell in love with the sport.
00:34So I suppose, what is your volleyball origin story?
00:38It starts with my brother, who's taller and eight years older than me.
00:45And this is going back a long way. In, yeah, I guess the early mid-70s, he started studying medicine at King's College in London
00:55and joined the volleyball group there. I don't know how structured that was or whatever.
01:01Anyway, and we were living, my mum was working at a hospital in Hemel Hempstead, so northwest of London, and we lived there.
01:09And he would come home quite often and he found a volleyball club in Hemel Hempstead and dragged me along.
01:16And so I was 14, and there was no junior program. It was just an adult club run by a PE teacher and his wife,
01:25who turned out was a lady called Joan Last, who'd played basketball for England and volleyball or whatever.
01:32I didn't know anything about this, but they were nice people.
01:34And I think there was, there might have been one 18-year-old and a 19-year-old and then a bunch of adults,
01:42but they took me in and were very kind to me.
01:45Brilliant.
01:45So my brother would come less frequently, I guess, being in London, but I kind of adopted it regularly.
01:53So it was about a mile walk from where we lived, so I just went.
01:57So, yeah, that got me into structure.
02:01If I went really far back as a kid in Africa, some of my parents' friends would get together on a Saturday night
02:09and share food and stuff and sometimes play volleyball outside.
02:15But, yeah, so I knew about the game, but it was very different.
02:18I see. What were your parents doing in Africa?
02:20They worked on a hospital in Kenya, quite, in a quite isolated place near Lake Victoria,
02:28a quite small hospital.
02:29My mum was one of four doctors, yeah, and my dad kind of ran the business side of things.
02:34I see.
02:35And when you first started playing volleyball in Hemelheim,
02:37what was it that first struck you about the sport?
02:40It's a good question.
02:40I mean, part of it, I think, was my brother was doing something and I looked up to him
02:46and I kind of, you know, followed him.
02:50I think quite quickly I realized I could be decent at it.
02:56And I don't mean that in a big way, but I think probably the hook was,
02:59it may, looking back, it may have only been three, four months in,
03:03they were invited, the club went to a tournament over in Essex in Harlow
03:07and there were two categories.
03:09So the team that my brother was in, the older team, played in, I don't know,
03:13it was the A section and the B section or whatever.
03:15Anyway, I got dragged along with this other 18-year-old girl and 19-year-old boy
03:21and a couple of the other people in the kind of B team and we won our category.
03:27And at the end, they gave out medals and all the people who'd won the B category,
03:32the A team didn't win, by the way, so were given silver medals
03:36and I got this little box and opened it, it was a gold one.
03:39And I remember being upset like, oh no, they've mixed up the medal,
03:41someone over there is going to be upset.
03:43And they said, no, that's right, son, you keep that.
03:44So I went back to school the next day with this medal.
03:47So anyway, I think that I was lucky to have a tiny little bit of reward, success, if you like.
03:54That's brilliant.
03:54So anyway, I guess it was probably that.
03:56And fast forward a few more years away.
03:58Yeah, well, fast forward nothing for then three, four years.
04:00Then I left home at 17, went to start studying in the printing industry,
04:05went to Nottingham, and about three years into my apprenticeship there,
04:11I was living in Grantham and I'd traveled to Nottingham and back.
04:15One of my friends who lived in Nottingham said,
04:17oh, in my sports center down the road where the swimming pool is,
04:20I've seen people playing volleyball.
04:22So I went over there one Monday evening with him.
04:26He'd figured out when they played.
04:28And there were some guys, really tall guys, practicing.
04:32And it turned out to be, yeah, Trent Rockets,
04:35who at the time, like with Polonia,
04:36were one of the top teams in the country.
04:39So I wandered over to their coach.
04:41And he said, yeah, well, actually,
04:43there's another club that follows us in the hall.
04:45But yeah, you can practice with us if you like.
04:47So I did, and that kind of became my routine.
04:50So I joined the other club.
04:53And then for about a year,
04:56I would travel over to Nottingham and play with them.
04:59And is that what we can see here?
05:00Is this Nottingham?
05:01No, that's actually, that jumps a bit.
05:04Then I went to Lebanon when I was 21,
05:07lived there for three and a half years,
05:08and didn't play club volleyball,
05:11played outside on asphalt.
05:13And per capita, more Lebanese kids play volleyball
05:16than the British ones.
05:18So there was plenty of volleyball going on,
05:19but just messing around.
05:21Then when I came back to the UK,
05:22I actually went back to Grantham,
05:23the town I'd lived in before.
05:25When my old company asked me to go back there.
05:28And so then I had about a 10-year period living there.
05:30And that's where this is.
05:33I see.
05:33And you also mentioned,
05:35I believe you played overseas.
05:37Well, I didn't.
05:39I played because I went to tournaments overseas.
05:43I mean, yes, Lebanon,
05:44and I lived overseas and played,
05:47but not in any structured way.
05:48But through a network of people,
05:51partly connected to a church
05:52that I was more involved with when I was younger,
05:55we got to know people from Finland
05:57and Germany and Switzerland, whatever.
05:59And so then I found out that,
06:01or they would invite us to tournaments.
06:03So, for example, at Easter,
06:05we'd all go to Germany
06:06and sleep on the floors,
06:10dormitory room floors or classroom floors,
06:14and play in these tournaments
06:16where teams from all over Europe would come.
06:18So then we'd get invited back,
06:20or we'd meet people there,
06:21said, oh, we've got a little tournament in France.
06:23So then we'd go to that one once a year
06:25and then one in Switzerland.
06:27So it was that kind.
06:30I was living in England,
06:31but I would assemble teams
06:32and we'd go and take part in these tournaments.
06:36Fair enough.
06:36And I'm sure many of our viewers might be wondering,
06:38you know, Lebanon, Hemel Hempstead,
06:40where's the connection?
06:41But obviously now you live in Medway.
06:42Tell us, how did you come to be in Medway?
06:44Yeah, when I was living in the East Midlands,
06:47in Grantham,
06:48after working for the same employer
06:50for quite a long time,
06:52and I'd gone back into some study,
06:56done some management, whatever,
06:57I wanted to do something different.
07:00And so I was applying for jobs all around the UK
07:03and I ended up getting a job
07:04with the office in Sevenoaks.
07:05So I lived in Maidstone for a while
07:07and then through a long series of coincidences
07:11ended up buying a house in the dockyard
07:14in Chatham.
07:15And I ran more in those days
07:18just to keep active.
07:19So on my morning jogs or weekend jogs,
07:23I started discovering my surroundings,
07:25including St. Mary's Island and the campus.
07:28So then I discovered the old sports hall
07:30on the campus
07:30and started a volleyball club there,
07:34which it morphed then about,
07:36after about five, six years
07:37into the uni programme
07:38that then kind of, yeah, grew.
07:41So that's how I came to Medway.
07:42Brilliant.
07:42And tell us a bit about what you do now,
07:44obviously you play for the men's team
07:46here in Medway
07:47and you also coach the juniors team.
07:49Tell us a bit about that.
07:50Yeah.
07:51Well, again, the men's team
07:52just started with a group of friends.
07:55I was playing with a club in Maidstone
07:59that a lady I used to be married to
08:01and I had started.
08:03We discovered it.
08:04We kind of restarted.
08:05We moved to Maidstone
08:06when we'd been living in the East Midlands
08:08and then wanted to find a volleyball place to play
08:11and there were no clubs
08:12but the YMCA in Maidstone had equipment
08:15and then we met a guy who said,
08:17oh, there used to be a club here
08:18but nothing's happening anymore.
08:20But he pulled a few people back out of the weeds
08:23and so we started that up.
08:24So then when I moved to Chatham,
08:27I was still going back over there to play
08:29but then having discovered the sports hall here
08:32and bumped into a few people
08:34and then the word spread
08:35and a group of Polish people largely found us
08:39and so that spread the network a little bit more.
08:43And then people walking along the side of the sports hall
08:47to the gym,
08:48like there was a Spanish guy
08:49and a couple of Brazilian people, whatever,
08:51started joining in just casually with volleyball
08:53and then about 2009, 2010,
08:56we formed a club
08:57and started playing competitively
08:59just in the region, in Kent.
09:01And then someone from the faculty joined
09:04and so then he,
09:05a couple of his students,
09:06started the society,
09:08I think maybe around 2011.
09:10So then that morphed into this kind of hybrid
09:12that we had.
09:14I roughly still have,
09:15although it's changed a little bit
09:16between having a club
09:18that played in the local league
09:19and then a uni team gradually was formed
09:22that played in Bucks
09:22and Awad and people like that.
09:26I shouldn't talk so familiarly,
09:28but people we know.
09:29Yeah, so then the two programmes ran side by side.
09:32Brilliant, brilliant.
09:33Well, that's all we have time for for now,
09:34but join us in just a second.
09:35We'll catch right back with you.
09:37You can catch the rest of that interview
09:38in the second half of the show.
09:40But now we were hoping
09:41to catch a glimpse of Frank Lampard on Saturday
09:44as Coventry took on Chatham Town
09:45in their first pre-season friendly.
09:47Instead, it was the under-21s
09:49who took to the field,
09:50but the Chatham certainly didn't hold back.
09:52They put five past the young Sky Blues,
09:55with one man in particular
09:56stealing the spotlight.
09:57Well, Lloyd Stephens was there
09:58to tell us more.
10:00The sun was beaming down
10:01on the Beauville Stadium
10:02as the fans walked in
10:03completely free of charge.
10:05And for the home fans, at least,
10:06it turned into quite the summer showcase.
10:09Just four minutes in,
10:17Stanley Oldfield opened the scoring
10:19and it was only the beginning
10:20of what would become
10:21a personal masterclass.
10:23He added a second in the 41st
10:25before completing his hat-trick
10:27on the stroke of half-time
10:28with a cool finish.
10:30Clinical, confident
10:31and causing problems
10:33all over the Coventry's backline.
10:35Coventry did pull one back
10:37almost immediately, a moment of promise
10:39just before the break,
10:41but it would prove to be
10:42their only breakthrough.
10:44Reece Butler made it four
10:45for Chatham in the 79th minute
10:47and at that point,
10:48the result was sealed.
10:49But there was still time
10:50for a cherry on top.
10:52Tope Fadahunsi added a fifth
10:54in the 86th,
10:55rounding off a dominant display
10:57from the home side.
10:58After the match,
10:59we caught up with Tope Fadahunsi
11:01who was pleased with the performance
11:03and excited about the chemistry building
11:05ahead of the new campaign.
11:06A lot to work on.
11:08Still, we tidier in parts.
11:12But yeah, there were some good bits.
11:13Good bits of play,
11:14good bits of link-up.
11:15I could see me and Chalist
11:17having a bit of fun together this season
11:20if it comes through.
11:22And the other players as well.
11:24Me and Harv are developing
11:25a good relationship.
11:27Kofi, I've had a relationship with him
11:28since Hendon days.
11:31So yeah, I can really see myself
11:33enjoying playing for this club.
11:34Well, that is it for part one.
11:37Join us after the break.
11:38We'll talk more with Bruce
11:39about the current state of the game
11:41in Medway
11:42and what he and his junior team
11:44needs in terms of a new venue.
11:47We'll also, as always,
11:48with our Invicta guests,
11:49ask him just what he'd say
11:50to his younger self.
11:52See you in just a moment.
11:53Hello and welcome back
12:09to Invicta Sport
12:10right here on KMTV.
12:12If you missed the first half
12:13of our show today,
12:14we're speaking with
12:15Medway volleyball coach
12:16Bruce Hertogs
12:16about his journey
12:17from starting volleyball
12:18at the age of 14
12:19to running several junior groups.
12:21Here's part two
12:22of our chat with him.
12:24And we're back with Bruce.
12:26So we talked a bit
12:27about the past before.
12:28Now it's time to talk
12:29more about the present
12:30and the future.
12:31So tell me,
12:32we touched briefly
12:33on the juniors team.
12:34I think it started
12:35relatively recently.
12:36Tell me about the progression.
12:37How did it start
12:39and how now has it developed?
12:41Okay.
12:42When my daughter,
12:44who's now 17,
12:45was in primary school,
12:46another girl in her year,
12:48not a particularly close friend,
12:50but whose mother
12:51was from Turkey
12:52and played volleyball
12:53when she was young,
12:54wanted her daughter
12:55to start playing
12:56and she had joined
12:56the adult practice sessions
12:59at the campus.
13:01And so for a few years,
13:02she'd been on my case,
13:03Bruce, you need to start something,
13:04you need to start something.
13:05And then COVID came.
13:07During COVID,
13:09when we went outside
13:10on the grass
13:10for our exercise every day
13:12when we were so dutifully
13:13obeying the rules,
13:14my wife,
13:15who played volleyball
13:16quite a lot,
13:17but after uni kind of gave up
13:19because it hurt her back,
13:21more than me,
13:22started messing around
13:23with the kids on the grass.
13:24And both my kids
13:25really took to it,
13:27particularly my daughter,
13:28who at that time
13:29would have been 13, 14-ish.
13:31So when we came back
13:33after COVID,
13:34I had two kids
13:36that I knew would like to play
13:37if they wanted.
13:39And so anyway,
13:40but by two years ago,
13:422023 in April,
13:44we'd, from word of mouth,
13:46heard about enough people
13:47who were interested,
13:48we decided we'd give it a shot.
13:50So we just,
13:51we put up a poster
13:52in a couple of schools
13:54that were connected
13:55to our kids.
13:57And then just by word of mouth
13:59with a couple of other people,
14:00just booked an hour and a half
14:02on the Saturday
14:03at the waterfront
14:04and about 15, 20 kids came up.
14:07And then within a month,
14:09the word spread
14:09and there was a Filipino community
14:11that a lot of them work
14:14at the hospital
14:15that someone told a friend about
14:18and they came
14:19and they brought three
14:19or four friends
14:20and then some of their
14:21school friends came.
14:22And so within a couple of months,
14:23we had like 25 kids
14:24and we had to start organizing
14:26into separate times
14:27for different age groups,
14:29et cetera.
14:30And it's just gone mad since then.
14:32So then we got the kids
14:33into competition,
14:34some of the more advanced ones
14:36in under 18
14:38and then under 16.
14:39And yeah,
14:41we are now in September.
14:43We'll have the ones
14:44who are 14 and 15
14:45going into new
14:46under 16 competition
14:47and the under 16s
14:48are now in the under 18s.
14:50Wow.
14:50And did you expect
14:51that kind of reception?
14:52Um,
14:53I didn't really know,
14:54honestly,
14:55because volleyball
14:56is a very niche sport
14:58and massively a minority sport.
15:01The one thing,
15:02I guess,
15:02the same reasons
15:03that led us to think
15:04maybe it's worth doing it
15:05is because anime,
15:07I was finding this out
15:08from uni students
15:09that I was coaching
15:10and the Japanese cartoons,
15:12is it haiku or whatever,
15:14focused a lot on volleyball
15:15because of course in Japan
15:17it's in the culture.
15:19So I had a little bit
15:20of an inkling
15:21that there might be
15:22more,
15:23more interest than,
15:25you know,
15:26when I was a kid for sure
15:27and the various generations
15:28in between.
15:29But no,
15:30we didn't know
15:31it would go quite so quickly.
15:33I see.
15:33And obviously,
15:34you're mentioning
15:35that huge growth.
15:36How have the kind of,
15:37how has it become
15:38with the uni and the venue?
15:39Tell me a bit,
15:40I'm aware there's some
15:41interest from you
15:42to try and expand
15:44the operations in a way.
15:45Yeah,
15:45if I could find
15:45a bigger building tomorrow,
15:47I could fill it.
15:49There's no question about that.
15:51Yeah,
15:51the difficulty is that,
15:53and you'll know,
15:55volleyball
15:55has 12 people on a court,
15:58six on a side,
16:00and you can't really overload it.
16:02You can't say,
16:03oh,
16:03we'll play this game.
16:04If you had a big field
16:05and you had 20 kids
16:06to play football,
16:07you could put,
16:08or 20 kids a side,
16:09a field's big enough,
16:10you know,
16:10you can't really do that.
16:12So for practice,
16:13you know,
16:13we become masters
16:14of space management.
16:15You can put 25 kids
16:16in a room,
16:17no problem.
16:17But when you need
16:18to play games,
16:19then you can only have
16:21so many kids
16:22on the court.
16:23And most British sports halls
16:25are laid out
16:26with badminton
16:27as the foundation.
16:28So they put either
16:29two,
16:29three,
16:29four badminton courts
16:30in a row,
16:32and they build
16:33the building
16:33just too narrow
16:34to put volleyball courts
16:35in the width.
16:36So they put it
16:37in the length,
16:38like with Olympic proportions
16:39all the way around,
16:40but not enough room
16:41for two.
16:42So that's the challenge
16:44that you have to manage
16:45people who are advancing
16:46more quickly,
16:48beginners,
16:48new kids,
16:49without terrifying people,
16:51you know,
16:52with the bigger kids
16:52pounding balls down,
16:53et cetera.
16:54So that's where,
16:55in a situation
16:56where you could have
16:57two courts
16:58or whatever,
16:59on the campus,
17:00the old sports hall,
17:02which hasn't been used
17:02for sports since COVID,
17:04did actually just have,
17:06we could just squeeze
17:07two courts in.
17:09And the perfect world,
17:11if that went back,
17:12I'd be over the moon.
17:13Because other places
17:16are really hard to find.
17:17Many of the schools
17:18are happy to rent
17:19their facilities out,
17:21and most of them are
17:22for all sorts
17:22of sports clubs.
17:24But they all just have
17:25one volleyball court
17:26so far.
17:27I think in Medway,
17:29the only building
17:30that you could fit
17:31courts into the width
17:32is what used to be
17:34the Sterling Center,
17:35now the sports center
17:36belonging to the King's
17:37School in Rochester,
17:39on outside anyway.
17:42But that's a little bit
17:43far away,
17:43and they're packed.
17:44They have dance
17:45and this and that
17:45and all sorts of other things.
17:47I've been to speak to them.
17:48And Medway Park,
17:49lovely people,
17:50but again,
17:51they have the same layout.
17:52If their curtains come over
17:53to separate their big hall
17:54into separate ones,
17:55it's on the badminton principle.
17:57And so you'd have
17:5818 metres and a curtain.
18:01Right.
18:01So,
18:02and their floor prevents
18:04cutting it open
18:06to put sockets
18:06for poles in,
18:07et cetera.
18:08So there are solutions
18:09to be found,
18:10but the big issue
18:11is finding the court time
18:13at the right price
18:14and the dimensions
18:16of a building
18:16that can accommodate it.
18:18Absolutely.
18:19And, I mean,
18:20you mentioned there
18:20there's all sorts
18:21of administrative difficulties.
18:23How much does having
18:24only just that one court
18:26really impact
18:26the natural progression
18:27of a player?
18:28If I join
18:29and I'm completely new,
18:30like you say,
18:31I see people
18:31smacking balls
18:33down over the net.
18:33It's going to be
18:34quite that shock.
18:35So are there any solutions
18:36that lie outside of that
18:37rather than finding
18:38a new venue?
18:39Well, the way we do
18:40is just we add
18:41more and more time.
18:42So we start
18:43with a more basic group.
18:45We start with
18:45the younger group,
18:46then we progress
18:47to the team
18:48within the younger group
18:49and then we have
18:49the older ones come.
18:51So we went from
18:52an hour and a half
18:52on a Saturday
18:53so now I go there
18:54at four o'clock
18:54and come home at 9.30
18:55or finish at 9.30,
18:57whatever.
18:58So we just add
18:58more and more time,
18:59which in one respect
19:01fits with expanding
19:03the group
19:03because you need more kids
19:04to pay for the court.
19:06So the big group,
19:07we split them up.
19:09But to answer
19:09your question specifically,
19:11if you are able,
19:12even for 10 minutes,
19:14because bear in mind
19:15this is only happening
19:15once a week.
19:16It's not like
19:17an after school thing
19:17where people could learn
19:18every day
19:19because then you
19:19really progress quickly.
19:21So if even for 10
19:22or 15 minutes
19:23someone who's unfamiliar
19:24with the basics
19:25can learn those things
19:27or start to get an idea
19:28in an atmosphere
19:29that's not distracting
19:31for the reasons of fear
19:33or just space
19:35or whatever,
19:36yeah,
19:36it's hard to put
19:37a percentage on it
19:38but for sure
19:39kids would learn
19:40probably twice as quickly
19:42the same as if
19:43they were coming
19:44two or three times a week.
19:45Right.
19:45And very quickly,
19:46we haven't got much time left
19:48but we always ask
19:49this question to our guests.
19:50If you could speak
19:51to your younger self,
19:51that 14-year-old kid
19:52trying out with the adults
19:54and the volleyball team
19:55and the place you are now
19:57with the juniors team,
19:58what would you say to them?
19:58The book that I lent you
20:03about plyometrics
20:04a few years ago,
20:05I would wish that
20:07had been written then
20:08and found it
20:08and I'd have learnt
20:09to jump higher.
20:11Brilliant, amazing.
20:12Well, thank you so much
20:12for joining us, Bruce.
20:14And yeah,
20:14good luck with everything
20:15with the juniors team.
20:16Now, Sheppie United's
20:24most successful manager
20:25Ernie Batten
20:26passed away earlier this year
20:28and now the club
20:29have started a new
20:30pre-season tradition,
20:31the Ernie Batten Cup,
20:32played against Sheppie Sports
20:34managed by Ian and George,
20:35his two sons.
20:36The fixture was preceded
20:38with applause
20:38for the manager
20:39who's credited
20:39with saving the club
20:40during its period
20:41of financial struggle
20:42and helping them
20:43get the venue
20:44they play on today.
20:45I went down to the match
20:46to find out more.
20:48Two promotions,
20:49six cup finals,
20:51four domestic trophies
20:52and one incredible
20:53FA Cup run.
20:55This is the legacy
20:56of Sheppie United's
20:57late manager
20:57Ernie Batten
20:58who passed away
20:59earlier this year.
21:00He wasn't just a manager
21:01but a father as well
21:02and to honour him,
21:03his two sons
21:04led Sheppie Sport Football Club
21:06in a pre-season match
21:07against United
21:08marking the very first
21:09Ernie Batten Cup.
21:11Yeah, I mean,
21:11as I say,
21:13it was always going to be
21:13a bit of an emotional day
21:14for myself
21:15and my family.
21:16But again,
21:18it's a day
21:19that we celebrate
21:20my dad
21:20and everything
21:22that he's done
21:23for the football club.
21:24This was,
21:24I know,
21:25this was his home.
21:26He absolutely loved
21:28this place
21:28and it is what it is
21:31today
21:31because he worked
21:32so hard
21:33and it was always
21:34his dream
21:35to bring the football
21:36back to the island
21:37and to look at it now.
21:40I'm just so proud of him.
21:41Ahead of kick-off,
21:42both teams,
21:43the officials
21:43and the fans
21:44applauded Ernie
21:45who's often credited
21:46with making the club
21:47a beloved part of the island
21:48after its past struggles.
21:50You know,
21:51you drive down the road,
21:52you see youngsters
21:53in Sheppie United kit
21:54and tracksuits
21:55and, you know,
21:56when I was growing up
21:57we didn't have that
21:58but, you know,
21:58look what we've got now,
21:59you know,
21:59average gates,
22:00you know,
22:01300, 400 people,
22:02the success Sheppie have had,
22:04you know,
22:04the FA Cup
22:06the season before last
22:08so, you know,
22:09it's fantastic
22:11and, you know,
22:11the dad's legacy,
22:13what he's left
22:13is this place
22:14and, you know,
22:15we're happy,
22:16you know,
22:16we're so proud
22:18as a family
22:18for, you know,
22:19to come out here
22:20and enjoy the facility
22:22amongst thousands
22:23of other people
22:23on this island.
22:24In the end,
22:25even though Sheppie United
22:26did win the match
22:27against their lower
22:28division rivals,
22:29Sport gave it a good go,
22:30ending the fixture
22:31with two goals
22:32to United's four.
22:33As well as being a fixture
22:34for the community,
22:35the Cup is also key
22:36for making sure
22:37both squads are fit
22:38and ready
22:39for the new season.
22:40You look at today,
22:42in this heat,
22:45the players get a good workout,
22:47a good sweat on them.
22:48So, you know,
22:49every friendly we play,
22:51whether we play
22:52against a team
22:53higher in the pyramid
22:54than us
22:55or lower in the pyramid
22:56than us,
22:57we want it to have
22:58a bit of beat,
22:59a worthwhile exercise.
23:01Pre-season games
23:02might not seem
23:03all that important sometimes,
23:04but they can tell you
23:05a lot about how the club
23:07might perform next season.
23:09But this pre-season game
23:10isn't about the future,
23:11it's about the past,
23:12about what Ernie Batten
23:13did for the club
23:14and how they can honour
23:15his legacy going forward.
23:17Finn McDermid
23:18for KMTV.
23:19Well, that's it from us
23:24on today's episode
23:25of Invicta Sport.
23:26Don't forget,
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