Where does Ryan Poles rank on the list of reasons why Ben Johnson chose Chicago?

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00:00This is part of the process of getting things in order.

00:03And we talk about Ben Johnson and the impact he'll have on Caleb Williams.

00:06And I think when you talk about what Ryan Poles deserves credit for,

00:11often he is credited with bringing Ben Johnson to Chicago.

00:15And I chuckle only because I do think it's probably on the list of things

00:21that brought him to Chicago third at best.

00:24Oh, no, no way.

00:26I mean, I don't think he came here to work with this guy.

00:29Caleb Poles.

00:32I mean, if you want to get it.

00:33I don't think Poles.

00:34You know, I think, honestly, okay, I mean, money slash control.

00:42I think that he's his own boss.

00:45I think Poles works for him more than the other way around.

00:50I don't have any doubt.

00:51I said that on day one.

00:52So I think the fact that you're going to get big dough,

00:56but you're also running your own show is it kind of rhymes.

01:02Big dough, your own show, let's go.

01:05That's what I'm saying.

01:06You know, he doesn't – there isn't the strong football personality

01:11that can tell him, get in your lane, do your job, and I'll do my job.

01:17This is not the way it's going to work.

01:19And to your point, which backs up what you're saying,

01:23is that you look at the draft, this confirmation of all of that.

01:27The first two picks were Ben Johnson picks.

01:29Yes, no question.

01:30They were not necessarily picks by a general manager

01:32who understood what the weaknesses were.

01:35And the fact that this draft –

01:38Well, let me ask.

01:40You get through – you go into the draft needing a running back

01:42and an edge rusher, and you come out of the draft

01:44with your offensive weapon re-upgraded.