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  • 11/07/2025
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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je me suisungen dans mon corps.
06:44J'ai besoin de dire mon corps.
06:54Mais tu es toujours le same
06:56Il y a quelque chose d'inside de toi
07:02C'est difficile à expliquer
07:07Ils parlent de toi, mais tu es toujours le same
07:17Oh, absolument.
07:19Je vais commencer par le début de tout en 4K
07:23Et je vais faire toutes les restaurations myself
07:25Donc c'est tout qui vient de moi
07:27Et vous pouvez acheter directement de moi
07:30Je vais signer votre box set
07:34Et je vais vous donner
07:36Je suis un grand fan de 4K
07:40Je l'aime 4K
07:42Je pense que 4K est magnifique
07:45Parce que beaucoup de films
07:46peuvent être re-watches
07:49Avec une meilleure qualité
07:50Et qui ne veut pas ça
07:53Donc c'est un nouveau niveau
07:56Le nouveau normal pour moi
07:58Donc j'ai décidé de faire tous mes films en 4K
08:01Et je les roule en plus
08:03Je pense que le cinéma
08:08Et la télévision pour ça
08:09Le cinéma, c'est une très difficile de faire
08:12En plus de 10 ou 15 ans
08:15Générique, social media, VR, canvases
08:19sont explosifs, et ils sont constantement evolving
08:22parce que la technologie est permettant de les évoluer.
08:25En films et télévision, TV est devenu plus en plus
08:28de contenu que vous regardez
08:31pendant que vous faites d'autres choses.
08:33Et films sont toujours une fenêtre
08:36de exclusivité, de la expérience collective.
08:39Mais je pense que films aussi doivent re-évaluer
08:44et je me rappelle que nous étions en Cannes
08:46pour «Only God Forgives »
08:47et après tout le monde m'a dit pour moi
08:51durant mon stay, je me disais
08:55« Tu peux être en train de me et de mes films
08:58mais je suis de l'avenir
09:01et je vais faire quelque chose
09:02qui va prendre ce qu'il va être comme
09:05si tu veux faire films dans le futur.
09:07Et je suis correct
09:09parce que après «Only God Forgives »
09:11l'industrie changé parce que Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15and it changed not so much
09:18what we were making
09:18but it's how we experienced
09:20film and content essentially
09:23how we viewed it
09:24and I think that to justify
09:26or for a movie to exist
09:28in longevity
09:29you have to see
09:31what a film can become
09:33rather than what it used to be.
09:37Violence is like sex
09:38it's all about the build-up
09:40bang bang
09:41and then it's to the other wall
09:43now make it dirty
09:44unique
09:44interesting
09:45never seen before
09:46and violent
09:46I'm not that strategic
09:52but I will say that
09:54everything is an evolution
09:56of something
09:57and there can be a tendency
10:00when something is liked
10:03that everyone wants the same
10:07same
10:07but I don't necessarily think
10:09that's true
10:09it's better to give them
10:11something else
10:12or something different
10:13or something that
10:14destroys your past
10:16in order to make
10:17something new
10:19to transition
10:20you know
10:20obviously the two films
10:22are very different
10:23but what ties them
10:24is myself
10:26and Ryan's
10:27interaction
10:28however I find
10:30that interesting
10:30it's like taking something
10:32and turning it
10:33on its head
10:34it's taking the ultimate
10:35superhero
10:36in one movie
10:37and emasculating him
10:39in the next
10:39it's taking one movie
10:41that's very poppy
10:42and another movie
10:43that's very
10:44esoteric
10:45and that I think
10:47is what makes
10:49the world interesting
10:50is that things
10:51can become
10:51different
10:52it can evolve
10:53into other components
10:55rather than just
10:56always staying
10:57in the same
10:58repeat lane
10:59because you very quickly
11:01run out of steam
11:02in my opinion
11:03I was
11:03I was very happy
11:05but obviously
11:06you know
11:07a lot of harsh reactions
11:09and
11:10a lot of booing
11:11and screaming
11:12but then I was like
11:13that's kind of cruel
11:15because
11:15then you're like
11:16the sex pistols
11:17of cinema
11:18you know
11:18you're like
11:19the one everyone
11:20throws bottles at
11:21but
11:21you can't deny
11:22it existence
11:23you can't
11:24really criticize
11:25it
11:25because
11:26I did it my way
11:27the world
11:28will see it
11:29as it continues
11:30to evolve
11:31and
11:31you just have to be
11:33you have to just
11:34to be
11:34trust yourself
11:35so you never lose
11:36your vision
11:36when you have
11:37that strong reaction
11:38no on the contrary
11:39you're like
11:40it's like energy
11:41it's like
11:42just wait for the next one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47about only God forgives
11:48I think it's a masterpiece
11:49and it is
11:49I just didn't make it
11:51very expensive
11:52is there a doctor
11:53in the house
11:53we need to get a medic
11:56in here
11:57is there a doctor
11:59around
11:59when you were mentioning
12:012001
12:02it says
12:03you forgot to add drive
12:04but we'll let that slip
12:06we won't know about drive
12:08for another 30 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives
12:12or die
12:12I'm talking about films
12:132001 was made in 1968
12:17I made this film
12:19about 4 years ago
12:20so it's about time
12:204 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole
12:27of humanity
12:28what was funny
12:29about talking to
12:30Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man
12:33who had struggled
12:34a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then
12:42had gone into
12:42Sorceress
12:43and
12:43you know
12:45was still traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years
12:49and I think
12:50that was what was
12:51so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had
12:53such an effect
12:54on him
12:54it was a little bit
12:55like Michael Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorceress
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably
13:03their best films
13:04for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then
13:08they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10so they lose
13:11their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards
13:15and I was like
13:16I'm never going to be
13:17like that
13:17because I'm right
13:19you're wrong
13:19I mean I've done two shows
13:26one with Amazon
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making
13:30obviously
13:30but I
13:31I don't know how
13:32how
13:34much I want to continue
13:36I may want to take a break
13:38and
13:38go and make movies again
13:41I've decided to do more
13:42visual arts
13:44you know
13:45and
13:45trying
13:46to find other
13:48areas
13:49of creativity
13:50but I think
13:51it's time
13:52to go make a film
13:53again
13:53you said you work
13:54on two shows
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five
13:56also
13:57The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I
14:00I just
14:01how do you say
14:02executive produced
14:03or created
14:04but I had no
14:05involvement in it
14:06otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of
14:08concept
14:09and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read
14:14the books
14:15when they were young
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books
14:18so it was more like
14:19a past history thing
14:21that came up
14:22as an opportunity
14:23Well I mean
14:28if anything
14:28if something is interesting
14:29you know
14:30why not look at it
14:31I've had some
14:31wonderful meetings
14:32in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful people
14:35but in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really want
14:39is just to be free
14:40when you work in Hollywood
14:42there is a contract
14:44some people love that
14:45and can work within that
14:47I
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now
14:51but who knows
14:51maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53you know
14:55big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun
14:59maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:00to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end
15:03you should just
15:04make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing
15:06having creative control
15:08which is
15:08easier enough
15:10but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden
15:15on you
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get
15:17you know
15:18recouped
15:19and then you have to
15:19make a certain
15:20type of movie
15:21you don't have the freedom
15:22to do whatever you want
15:23because you're
15:24you're a slave
15:25to the economics
15:26if your film
15:27costs 200 million dollars
15:29or 100 million dollars
15:30you need to make
15:31300-400 million dollars
15:32to break even
15:33that already puts
15:34a strain on
15:34what kind of movie
15:35can you make
15:36and I don't want
15:37any conditions
15:39on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to be
15:42completely free
15:43I mean in the beginning
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking about
15:50another drive
15:51but it was like
15:52that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of
15:55I've been very lucky
16:07to live
16:07a fun life
16:09and
16:10it has nothing
16:12to do with fame
16:13you realize
16:15you realize very quickly
16:16it has
16:17that I've had
16:18opportunities
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24and
16:25it's all been
16:26a lot of fun
16:27but I think
16:28when I started
16:29the idea of being seen
16:32was very essential
16:33the idea of fame
16:34and fame
16:35being
16:36it's like an opportunity
16:38it's like a stage
16:39one thing is becoming famous
16:41the next
16:42what are you going to do with it
16:43and obviously
16:44it's like anything
16:45it's an opportunity
16:46I don't have any love
16:49you have to do
16:51and always work
16:52I do have a lot of work
16:53I also work
16:54I also
16:55I
16:56I
16:56we should be in Bangkok
16:59for 6 months
17:00and am
17:01he will do the next film
17:02and I have said
17:03yes to the film
17:04process
17:04it's great
17:06we are
17:07together
17:08when he filming
17:09since he did
17:10when he was on drive
17:11I was home
17:12in Denmark
17:12with children
17:13and it took 10 months
17:15Et c'est difficile de faire pour eux-mêmes.
17:45Et le prochain jour, c'est le mois d'août.
17:47Tu regardes des films ?
17:49J'ai vu beaucoup de films quand j'étais plus jeune.
17:52Mais maintenant, c'est plus dur et plus.
17:54Il y a d'autres choses que je trouve intéressantes.
17:56Comme quoi ?
17:57J'ai fait ma première exposition qui s'ouvre à Tokyo.
18:02Ça a été beaucoup de plaisir.
18:04Une collaboration avec Hideo Kojima ?
18:06Oui.
18:07Pouvez-vous parler de ça ?
18:08J'ai créé une exposition qui s'ouvre la semaine dernière à Tokyo.
18:16J'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:23Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33Wait !
18:38N'est-ce pas sans moi ?
18:41Non !
18:42Non !
18:43Non !
18:44Non !
18:45Non !
18:46Non !
18:47Non !
18:48Non !
18:49Et tu es aussi dans «Death Stranding 2 » ?
18:50Je suis «Heart Man »
18:52et «Heart Man » est toujours dans «Death Stranding ».
19:00Je pense que tu ne crois pas tout ce que tu lis sur Internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Tu peux nous dire quelque chose ?
19:05Je crois tout ce que tu lis sur Internet.
19:07Ah, ok.
19:35Ok.
19:41Where dis-tu ?
19:44We vamper les людей directement.
19:45Allons-y !
19:46Puis-tu.
19:47Bonjour.
19:48Go.
19:49...
19:50Toi !
19:51Comment vous-tu ?
19:52Hello.
19:53Ave-je-je !
19:54zdré稱-y tout ?
19:55Pré君 !
19:56On peut les husband et bien !
19:57Alors, ouais !
19:58Est-y enfant !
19:59Tell me que tu as tratiensues !
20:00On peut-tu re 아마burgent ?
20:01We Es-y enfant !
20:02Pas vous oder me l'as-tenue !
20:03Sous-titrage FR ?