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Mark Atkinson and Alan Pattullo discuss the Premier Sports Cup and Steven Pressley interview.
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Hello and welcome to this episode of the Scotsman Football Show. My name is Mark Atkinson,
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Sports Editor. I'm joined today by our Chief Football Writer, Alan Patullo. Alan, we're going
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to have a very quick chat about the commencement of the Scottish Football Season. Premier Sports
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Cup is back, which means that we have competitive football returning to our stadia and screens
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once more. A couple of big matches. Let's start with probably the time that jumps out the
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most in the group stages. Hearts against Dunfermline on Saturday evening at Tynecastle, where you'll
00:36
be watching Derek McInnes take on Neil Lennon. Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, some people
00:45
might think that the return of the competitive football season is slightly too early. Wimbledon
00:55
ongoing and cricket test match ongoing down south probably feels a bit too early, but
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I think they've managed to produce a fixture to get the juices stirred. Derek McInnes' first
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competitive game in charge of Hearts against his old friend Neil Lennon, obviously now in
01:16
charge of Dunfermline. So, yeah, I'm actually looking forward to being there at Tynecastle.
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It's a fascinating match-up between the two managers. I was looking the other day, I think
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Neil Lennon might be the elder of the two by about a week, I think, so they're the same age. But Derek
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McInnes proved that by taking what some perceived as a backward step, going back into the championship
01:42
to take over at Kilmarnock, has not had any real detriment to his managerial career. I mean,
01:49
here he is now, manager of Hearts, looking like he's continuing to fulfill his managerial
01:56
ambitions in one of the big clubs in Scotland. And I think Neil Lennon can look to Derek McInnes'
02:03
what he's done and think that perhaps, you know, at age 53, 54, that, you know, there's
02:12
still, there's still life, life in him yet. And I'm sure there is. Derek McInnes was being
02:18
very, being very, well, commending Neil Lennon for his managerial, his managerial talent on
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Wednesday when we met McInnes Orium for the pre-match briefing and said he was looking forward
02:33
to locking horns with him again. So yeah, it's another sort of a side issue to the game. I'll
02:43
be, I'll be watching them on the sidelines as well as watching Hearts take on Dunferm and
02:49
you know, possibly much changed Hearts team against a Dunferm and team who are obviously
02:57
bidding to make a good start to the season ahead of what they will hope will be a season
03:03
where they can return, make a return to the top flight.
03:06
Yeah, both teams have got big aspirations this season in different leagues and I think
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a lot of fans will be fascinated to see what changes have occurred at both Tyne Castle
03:15
in East End Park. They're not the only, or McInnes certainly isn't the only new manager
03:20
getting his first competitive game. In fact, there's four players in the manager of the
03:25
team. And we also have Stephen Presley back in short of football and I want to talk a bit
03:26
about him Alan before we sign off. One day you take on Aertrie, Presley the manager at
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the East End Park. And we also have Stephen Presley back in short of football and I want to
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talk a bit about him Alan before we sign off. One day you take on Aertrie, Presley the manager
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at the East End Park. He's going to be a big in for you this week. Controversial appointment
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at the time. It feels like that may have died down a little bit. Is there excitement
03:55
among the East End Park faithful about Presley being in? And also, how was Presley to speak
04:01
to you? He's been away from the glare of the Scottish media for some time.
04:05
Yeah, no, it was great. It was my annual sit down with the new Dundee manager. I think
04:11
that's the third time in the last four seasons that I've done that going back to Gary Boyer,
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head of his first season in charge. Then when that ended after his reign ended after that
04:24
one season, I remember sitting down with Tony Doherty two years ago. And of course that only
04:29
lasted a couple of seasons and now here we are with yet another new incumbent of that dense
04:35
park hot seat, which as we know is a particularly hot, hot seat. But yeah, Stephen Presley was
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certainly, I mean, there's no point pretending otherwise he was a controversial appointment.
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A lot of Dundee fans were up in arms on social media about it when it was confirmed over five
04:56
weeks ago now. But you're right, I think there has been a time, you know, there's the passage
05:01
of time that's allowed people to digest it. And, you know, he's made some interesting looking
05:07
signings so far. And I think there's got to be some realism as well. Dundee have lost some,
05:13
you know, some particularly good players since this time last year, obviously Lyle Cameron and
05:17
Luke McCowan. And I think that's an area of real concern for Dundee in the middle of the park,
05:23
who's going to be that playmaker, who's going to support Simon Murray in terms of goals,
05:29
the way Lyle Cameron did. But no, I think people have begun to get their head round
05:37
Steven Presley as a manager. And I'm looking forward to seeing him in the dugout for the
05:44
first time. I mean, the first time he's been in a dugout as a manager for a competitive match
05:49
since before COVID when he was in charge of Carlisle. It's a long, long time and a long,
05:54
long time since he was last involved in Scottish football. So it's very much going to be a case
05:58
of him sort of coming out into the glare of the media spotlight. And yeah, I spent a couple
06:07
of, you know, a very pleasant couple of hours yesterday with him in a Dundee City hotel.
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It was a day off for Dundee players and for the management. He said he was very,
06:17
he was very sure to take himself away from the, it had been such an intense period,
06:22
he was very sure to take himself away from the football operations and just have a day to himself.
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So it was nice to catch up with him in that kind of relaxed manner. And he was about to go
06:32
and get his hair cut. He said, so he's getting himself ready for the big kickoff. Like we all
06:38
are, you know, getting our things sorted out, getting our notepads looked out. And yeah,
06:44
here we go. So I'm looking forward to seeing what Steven Presley has to offer. And yeah, he was great.
06:54
He went into a lot of detail in his career, covered a lot of ground. And it got me thinking,
07:00
you know, just how, how much Steven Presley has been involved in some of the most iconic
07:06
and memorable moments of Scottish football in the last 25, 30 years. I mean, we talk about
07:13
Boozgate. He was, he was a part of that, not, not, not, not one of the, not one of the miscreants,
07:19
but one of the, the coaching team who had to, had to deal with the fallout. And he was, of course,
07:28
front and centre of the Rickerton three protest at heart. And so we cover that kind of ground.
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And, and yeah, and also just going back to his days as a very young player at Rangers and the death of
07:41
the death of his very sad death of his father when he was just 20, when Steven was just 20 years old,
07:45
his father was only 47 and how he had to come back from that as a, as a young player at Rangers.
07:50
And, you know, I think we have to take a hat off to Steven Presley and for what he did as a player.
07:55
And, you know, the ways he's really trying to sort of, I don't know, come back as a manager,
08:05
come back and he said he's learned a lot being, being at Brentford, being, being part of the,
08:12
the coaching staff at Brentford and being away from that kind of frontline management role.
08:17
And he said, he's learned a lot about himself too. So, um, uh, got a smaller ego, he says,
08:22
and he's coming back and he's just, uh, he said, he feels more comfortable within his own skin now.
08:27
And, uh, yeah, it was, it was a really, really interesting couple of hours.
08:31
And, uh, and I hope that comes across in the piece, uh, it's going to be on in the Scots.
08:35
It certainly does. I think people will read that and see Presley in a slightly different light.
08:41
Um, I suppose ultimately like all football managers, the, the real proof will be in the pudding.
08:46
And, um, as you alluded to, Dundee have lost a number of very good players over the past 12 months,
08:52
even actually over the past few months.
08:54
So, um, he's got, he's got a tricky job on his hands in ultra competitive Scottish Premiership.
08:59
Uh, Alan, I'm going to let you crack on because it's warm out there and it's, it's time to, time to go and enjoy some sunshine.
09:05
Um, make sure you remember that suntan lotion and sunglasses for Tyne Castle.
09:10
The, uh, the press box from hell when it's really hot with those perspex screens.
09:15
We'll have all the action from the premier sports cup.
09:17
Alan, as we say, we'll be at hearts against them from tomorrow night.
09:20
And, uh, we'll round up all the best of the action and what is in our busy weekend of Scottish football.
09:26
From myself, Mark Hackinson, and from Alan, it's goodbye tonight.
09:29
I'll say goodbye tonight.
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