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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:44J'ai décidé de devenir Hans Christian Andersen et d'utiliser les faeries de l'hôtel comme l'opposité.
04:51C'est comme un coin, comme un yin et un yang.
04:55Vous avez un documentaire et vous avez une fantaisie.
04:58Et j'aime l'extrême, donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:03Et je pense que travailler dans la fantaisie a été beaucoup de plaisir.
05:07J'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 a few years ago, mais comme un TV show.
05:13Et ça s'appelle Copenhagen Cowboy, qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:17Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes.
05:21Mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé comme je l'avais l'habitude.
05:26Parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:31Tout est accessible.
05:33Et la plupart des choses sont réelles, ou à l'aise peut être très réelles,
05:38capturées de moment à moment.
05:40Et ce sont beaucoup plus efficaces.
05:42Et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:44Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantasy.
05:49Et ça, j'ai été plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu l'intention de vivre dans le monde réel.
05:55Et j'ai été plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02c'est un espace de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution, vous savez.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu de la liberté créative de faire,
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27Je n'ai pas le pas de la liberté.
06:29Je n'ai pas besoin d'autrement.
06:30C'est-ce que je suis accueillée par mon corps.
06:34C'est plus loin en moi.
06:35Je n'ai pas besoin de faire quelque chose.
06:37on to something else
07:07oh absolutely i mean i'm starting from the beginning with doing everything in 4k and i'm doing all the
07:24restorations myself so i'm doing it's all coming from me and you can buy them directly from me
07:30at bynwr.com i'll sign your box set and send it off to you um i am yeah i'm a huge fan of 4k
07:40like i love 4k i think 4k is like oh amazing because so many films can be rewatched with even
07:50better quality and and who doesn't want that you know so it's kind of like a new layer of
07:56the new normal for me so i decided to do all my films in 4k slowly rolling them out you know
08:03i think cinema and television for that matter is has had a very tough time in the last 10 years or
08:14so 10 15 years gaming social media vr canvases are exploding and they're constantly evolving
08:22because technology is allowing them to evolve movies and television tv is becoming more and
08:28more just content that you almost look at while you're doing other things and movies are still
08:35that window of exclusivity of the collective experience but i think that movies also needs
08:42to re-evaluate themselves i remember when we were in can for only god forgives and i after everyone had
08:49been booing me for so long that during the my stay i did say look you can be angry with me and about
08:57my film but i am from the future and i'm going to make something that's going to predict what it's
09:04going to be like if you want to make films in the future and um i was right because right after
09:10only god forgives the industry changed because of netflix netflix was the game changer and it changed
09:17not so much what we're making but it's how we experienced film and content essentially how we
09:23viewed it and i think that to justify or for a movie to exist in longevity you have to see what a film
09:32can become rather than what it used to be
09:34violence is like sex it's all about the build up bang bang and then it's to the other wall now make
09:43it dirty unique interesting never seen before in violent
09:46i'm not that strategic but i i will say that it everything is an evolution of something
09:57and um there can be a tendency when something is liked that everyone wants the same same but i don't
10:08necessarily think that's true it's better to give them something else or something different or
10:14something that destroys your past in order to make something new to transition you know obviously the
10:21two films are very different but what ties them is myself and ryan's interaction however i find that
10:30interesting it's like taking something and turning it on its head you know it's taking the ultimate
10:35superhero in one movie and emasculating him in the next it's taking one movie that's very poppy and
10:42another movie that's very esoteric and that i think is what makes the world interesting is that
10:50things can become different it can evolve into other components rather than just always staying in the
10:58same repeat lane because you very quickly run out of steam in my opinion i was uh i was very happy but
11:05obviously you know a lot of harsh reactions and a lot of booing and screaming but then i was like
11:13that's kind of cruel because then you like sex pistols of cinema you know you're like the one everyone
11:20throws bottles at but you can't deny it existence you can't really criticize it because i did it my
11:27way the world will see it as it continues to evolve and and you just have to be you have to just to be
11:34trust yourself so you never lose your vision when you have that strong reaction no on the contrary you're
11:40like it's like energy it's like just wait for the next one i love that i'm like you i have no regrets
11:47about only god forgives i think it's a masterpiece and it is i just didn't make it very expensive
11:52doctor in the house we we need to get a medic in here is there is there a doctor around when you
12:00were mentioning 2001 it says in king you forgot to add drive we'll let that slip we won't know about
12:07drive for another 30 years 30 seconds whether it lives or die i'm talking about films uh 2001 was made in
12:161968 i made this film about four years ago four years is a zip it's not even a blip it's not a pimple
12:25on on the asshole of humanity what was funny about talking to billy freaking was that it was
12:32he had a man who had struggled a lot in hollywood and um started very successfully at a young age
12:41and then gone into sorceress and you know was still traumatized by that experience after so many years
12:49and and i think that was what was so sad in a way that that that it had such an effect on him it's a
12:54little bit like michael cimino doing heaven's gate these amazing films both sorcerers and heaven's gate are
13:02probably their best films for some reason get so destroyed and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards and i was
13:15like i'm never going to be like that because i'm right you're wrong
13:24i mean i've done two shows one with amazon one with netflix and i like what i was making obviously
13:30but i i don't know how how much i want to continue i may want to take a break and
13:38and go and make movies again i've decided to do more visual arts you know and um trying to find
13:48other areas of creativity but i think it's time to to go make a film again you said you work on two
13:54shows that you work on the famous five also so the famous five was a television show that i i just
14:01how do you say executive produced or created but i had no involvement in it otherwise i just created
14:08the kind of concept in the story based on these very famous books the famous five was more
14:13because my kids would read the books when they were young i remember my mother reading me the
14:18books so it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity
14:27well i mean if anything if something is interesting you know why not look at it i've
14:31had some wonderful meetings in hollywood met wonderful people but but in the end i like my freedom
14:38that's all i really want is just to be free when you work in hollywood there is a contract some
14:44people love that and can work within that i it's maybe not so much my thing right now but who knows
14:51maybe next year i'll do a big you know big superhero movie uh that could be fun maybe i don't know i'm
15:00pretty open to anything but the same time at the end you should just make what makes you happy it's one
15:06thing having creative control which is easier enough but it's where all the money that's invested
15:14puts a burden on you because all that money has to get re you know recouped and then you have to
15:19make a certain type of movie you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want because you're
15:24you're a slave to the economics if your film costs 200 million dollars or 100 million dollars you
15:30need to make three four hundred million dollars to break even that already puts a strain on what kind
15:35of movie can you make and i don't want any conditions on me at all you have to be completely free
15:47i mean in the beginning a lot of people were talking about another drive but it was like
15:53that would be the worst idea i've ever heard of so never never
16:05i've been very lucky to live a fun life and it has nothing to do with fame you realize very quickly
16:16it has that i've had opportunities and i've been able to work with people i've met people i've spoken
16:24with people and it's all been a lot of fun but i think when i started the idea of being seen was
16:32very essential the idea of fame and fame being an opportunity it's like an opportunity it's like a
16:38stage one thing is becoming famous the next what are you going to do with it and obviously it's like
16:44anything it's an opportunity it's an opportunity for you heller heller heller ikke noget kærlighed
16:50you're a massive you're going to work all the time
16:52you're going to work all the time you're going to work all the time you're going to work
16:54you're going to work
16:55you're going to work
16:58we're going to be here in bangkok for six months
17:01young han will make his next film and i've said yes to the film process
17:06it's new that we're together with him when he's filming
17:10last time he made drive i was home in danmark with the children
17:13and i just drank so over 10 months and it was just too hard to be away from each other
17:21my daily life is i have a routine i wake up i do two hours sports every day then i usually
17:28have lunch then i get yelled at by my kids i work at night and then try not to get to bed too late and then
17:40friday comes and it's weekend and you try to relax a little more and the next day is monday
17:47you watch movies uh i used to watch a lot of movies when i was a lot younger but now it's just harder
17:53and harder there's other things that i find interesting like what well i did my first exhibition in
18:00that just opened in tokyo and that's been a lot of fun to do that collaboration with idio kojima
18:06mm-hmm yeah can you talk about that well it's i created an exhibition uh that opened in uh friday
18:14last week in tokyo where i built this installation between us i saw my wife and my daughter in the
18:23procession hey it's me where are you going wait
18:36and you are in death stranding too i am heart man and heart man is forever in death stranding
18:55i i think that don't believe everything you read on the internet okay can you tease us something
19:05well believe everything you read on the internet
19:08well believe everything you read on the internet you read on the internet you read on the internet
19:38if you use so 13 million dollars you read on the internet you read on the internet you read on the internet
19:50it's part of your book where you read on the internet you read on file
20:04interesting