00:00You haven't mentioned public opinion in Israel, and I don't know if you think that's an important source of pressure for Prime Minister Netanyahu at the moment,
00:07not least given the fact that it's reported that five Israeli soldiers were killed in northern Gaza today,
00:14bringing the death toll from this war, these 21 months of fighting in Gaza, to 450 on the Israeli military side.
00:22I mean, do you think Netanyahu is starting to reach a point where he can no longer justify to his public that soldiers are dying, five today alone,
00:35and without any obvious endgame in sight?
00:41I mean, 21 months was not really what people imagined, presumably, back in October 2023 for the length of the campaign in Gaza.
00:49I mean, do you think he is under, you know, totally, you know, public pressure, the like of which we haven't seen up until now?
01:01I'm not sure I'd call it the like of which we haven't seen.
01:04Netanyahu, not necessarily because of his treatment of the Palestinians, but in general is a divisive figure inside Israel, a polarizing figure.
01:12You have a pro camp, you have an anti camp.
01:14He has held his coalition together and he looks less at the numbers of overall public opinion than whether he has the votes, the numbers inside the Israeli parliament.
01:25But you are absolutely right that there is a significant degree of exhaustion.
