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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:07Hello? I need help. I'm trapped here.
00:12Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:22Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:25You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:37When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:39Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:53Her way of, uh, breaking the news to me was to, uh, go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction, I w-I was charmed by her.
01:01She-she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:06She was resourceful and driven, and I-I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:11Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:14You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:18Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:19I take it that didn't work out.
01:21Leave her alone!
01:22Hey!
01:22It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:27What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:34you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:40Hey!
01:44Ah!
01:44Police!
01:46I wonder when that happened.
01:47Oh, my God.
01:50Hello?
01:51Can you hear me?
01:53When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:55Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time, they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:09But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No.
02:11After a few days of follow-up calls, we sent officers by Miss Tyranny's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:23Trouble in paradise?
02:24Sorry, I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little.
02:32I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment, but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on.
02:37Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:45I should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go.
02:50I'll try to buy some time.
02:51I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:32Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah, it was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:46Okay, thank you.
03:47Thanks, Steve.
03:49Spielberg.
03:51He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:53How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to discover and nurture the next generation of unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:10Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:12I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:20L.P.D. was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:32Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick, but, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:40Please!
04:45The reshoot started piling up.
04:47And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:52What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:54Wait, look, there's-there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:57I'm a businessman.
04:58There's no hard feelings.
04:59Really?
05:00Because I have an email from you with the subject line,
05:02Where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:06Yeah, few hard feelings.
05:08But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:11Those guys weren't playing around.
05:13Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:17When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I-I promise I'll-I'll pay!
05:31I'll pay the fine!
05:33Ah!
05:34All right, still rolling.
05:36Reset.
05:38Bravo!
05:39Bravo!
05:41So Abigail hires you to compose music for her film.
05:45What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:51I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55But then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:03Then I got worried about her.
06:05I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:09You didn't get paid?
06:10Did you count experience?
06:12But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Look, even though a lot of crowdfunders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled,
06:17their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:27To visit who?
06:28A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:32In news that should bring some relief to the Southland,
06:35the LAPD have announced a major arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser
06:40with the murder of ten victims found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:48He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes,
06:53stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:56It wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim
06:59that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man
07:10and the subject of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD,
07:16particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of ten people.
07:22Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law,
07:27and they never will be.
07:28You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:30Like, if you're just going to railroad me like the police,
07:32then this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:36I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:38I want to talk about Abigail.
07:39Why didn't she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:47Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:50He was a patient?
07:51No, no, but his vending machine company supplied the hospital,
07:55and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
07:58It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak,
08:01and where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a Patsy.
08:04He used an abandoned building at the Psych Hospital complex to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes.
08:12But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:18But I told her what I'd heard.
08:20That the place was haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:23But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:28He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:30Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him.
08:37And he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:46No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police,
08:52and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:55What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:59It's worse than surveillance.
09:01Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent casework,
09:04and it's possible I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:08From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:13That was shortly after a meeting with Glasser.
09:14Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:20So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:29Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:34It started as a model of modern, humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:43Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:54I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:58And I'm gonna prove it.
10:00The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:04Was that open to the public?
10:06No.
10:06After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene,
10:10the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:12hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders up.
10:16But that clearly didn't work.
10:18Clearly.
10:18So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:21Mr. Dewaler!
10:22Yeah?
10:23We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:26Ah.
10:28Oh, hey!
10:48Hey!
10:51Stop!
10:53Hands behind your back.
10:54Hands behind your back.
10:55At first, Carl Ditwiler claimed he did nothing wrong,
10:59that he never met Abigail.
11:01This is it.
11:03But when he searched his office,
11:05it was clear he was lying.
11:12Uh, Nolan?
11:14Oh, no.
11:19Abigail had become his obsession.
11:22Oh.
11:25Yeah.
11:26Things didn't look good for Mr. Ditwiler.
11:28And based on his board,
11:29it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail.
11:32And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances
11:34and things went sideways.
11:36It was sobering.
11:37I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive,
11:41but I've been on the job long enough to know
11:43that the odds were against that.
11:45Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:47Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact.
11:50She was researching the abandoned psych ward
11:52for a documentary,
11:54and Carl was the nighttime security guard.
11:56She wanted access on the DL,
11:58and she reached out and she...
12:01Slirted.
12:02Slirted.
12:03She flirted with him,
12:04and he agreed to let her in.
12:06I just showed her around.
12:07I told her some stories,
12:09things that had gone on there back in the day.
12:11She was impressed.
12:12She actually asked me to help her
12:14with her documentary.
12:15Said she'd give me a credit on the film.
12:17Single card.
12:18If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:20Because I get what it looks like.
12:21I was the last person to see her
12:22before she disappeared.
12:24How do you know that?
12:27Because I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:30You know, I bet they were doing
12:30all kinds of sick things to patients back in the day.
12:33Things that would be illegal now.
12:35Yeah.
12:36Yeah, I know.
12:36They used to do lobotomies.
12:38One of the orderlies told me about it.
12:39He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:41You think you could introduce me to him?
12:45Uh...
12:45Yeah, I guess.
12:47Uh, just obviously,
12:49I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:51Come on, Carl.
12:53I would never rat you out.
12:55We're friends, right?
12:57Did you hear that?
12:58We're friends.
13:01Ah!
13:04Do you hear that?
13:06What? No.
13:07That noise, it's a weird,
13:10sort of beautiful sound.
13:12You really don't hear it?
13:13No.
13:13No, but this building makes
13:14all kinds of weird noises.
13:16Hey, I just gotta go back
13:17to the main building, Radio Security,
13:19let them know if I'm at my post.
13:20You go ahead.
13:20I'm gonna go check this out.
13:22Uh...
13:22What did you make of the sound
13:25Abigail described?
13:26We weren't sure.
13:27I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:29It's possible that she was faking
13:31to juice up her documentary.
13:33We've actually analyzed
13:35some of the audio files
13:36from Carl's video,
13:37isolated the low-end frequencies.
13:39Here.
13:41What is that?
13:43I was hoping you could tell me.
13:45It sounds...
13:46Bhamonic.
13:47Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:49Not technically, no.
13:50Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear,
13:57Abigail kept searching.
13:59Sure about this?
14:01Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:02Hello?
14:03Hello?
14:04Can you hear me?
14:07And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:09But Carl could have just turned off his camera
14:11and then killed Abigail, right?
14:12We couldn't rule him out as a suspect,
14:14but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:17And as we went through the footage
14:18on Abigail's laptop,
14:19we discovered that flirting with Carl
14:21wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:23I'm gonna start this.
14:26Should I turn into it?
14:27I'm gonna turn into it.
14:30Okay.
14:31I'm back at Westview.
14:32And if I'm gonna learn more
14:33about how the old psych ward operated,
14:35I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:37Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people, so...
14:42It's a camp.
14:46See?
14:46Okay.
14:51Wish me luck.
14:55Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office
14:58so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:00Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage
15:22was definitely a shock.
15:23You both have a history with Ms. Hall, is that right?
15:25Yes.
15:26So, uh, she and I went to college together,
15:28and, um, her and Tim...
15:31I'm sorry.
15:33Yeah, we used to date.
15:35Before or after you two.
15:36Okay, next question.
15:37I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:40No problem.
15:41I'll just ask her later.
15:43I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year
15:47while getting my social work degree.
15:48It was, um, challenging.
15:51How so?
15:52Uh, for one thing,
15:53the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility
15:56with, say, a diagnosis of mild depression.
15:59And a week later,
16:01they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking.
16:03Eventually, they might become violent.
16:06The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:09You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:10Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:13Someone suggested, uh, supernatural presence at Westview.
16:16Could that have impacted the patients?
16:18Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview
16:21couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior
16:23doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:25Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities
16:27of modern science to discover.
16:29Or maybe it's demons?
16:30Uh, there are no demons at Westview.
16:35There are totally demons at Westview.
16:37Well, what's another explanation
16:39for everything that's happened?
16:40We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak,
16:43and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:45Maxwell.
16:45Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:48This man came out in a big overcoat,
16:50black mask, big knife.
16:52Hang on a moment.
16:53I know that Ava and Charlotte
16:54were never treated at Westview,
16:55so what's the connection?
16:56Oh, you didn't hear.
16:57Charlotte's nanny was a patient there
16:59when she was a teenager.
17:00Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
17:02I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm,
17:05acting out.
17:07My family was very concerned,
17:08so they arranged for me
17:10to receive the best care available.
17:11And did the treatment help?
17:12Not at first.
17:14I'd been experiencing a...
17:16a darkness that I had never felt before,
17:19and at first I fought it.
17:20And then I realized that struggling
17:22only made everything worse,
17:23and once I accepted it,
17:25that's when things started to get better.
17:27And I left Westview,
17:28and I finished school,
17:29and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:32You were the nanny for the Russell family.
17:34Yes, so Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:38Well, I know that everyone's saying
17:41just the worst things about her right now,
17:43but in my eyes,
17:45she is a poised and gifted young woman,
17:47and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:50As odd as it was to find that connection,
17:53it was just one of those weird coincidences,
17:55nothing more.
17:55Charlotte Russell convinced her friend, Ava,
17:57to help her stab their other friend, Grace, there.
18:00Her actions were her own.
18:01They're not inspired by some nanny
18:04with a history of mental illness
18:05or some demon in a computer
18:07that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:08I'm sorry, computer demon?
18:10Zuzu is not a demon.
18:12Not a demon. It's an AI.
18:14Charlotte fed Zuzu information
18:16about herself and her friends,
18:17and based on that,
18:18Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:21Zuzu also helped you.
18:22Isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:23It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:27You spoke to it?
18:29Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:30Hi. Should I call you Zuzu?
18:33If you want to.
18:34Do you need help with something?
18:36Perhaps a topic for a new project.
18:38Your last few have struggled.
18:40They've done fine, thanks,
18:41but I actually want to talk to you
18:42about Westview Psychiatric.
18:44John was interested in the two.
18:47That young woman, Abigail, went missing there.
18:49Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:52No, but they needed my help anyway,
18:55and a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
18:58Zuzu did send me a message.
18:59What did it say?
19:00It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
19:04The number of the beast?
19:07Look, the facility had no room 666,
19:11and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:12We were at a complete dead end,
19:14and we were running out of time.
19:16Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:18The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:21Yeah, we were out of options
19:22until the 911 call came in.
19:25Apparently, there were suspicious noises
19:27and lights coming from this abandoned wing,
19:30so we went to check it out.
19:35Police!
19:36Coming in!
19:37Control 7-Adam 100.
19:39No signs of break-in here.
19:40Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:42I think the radio's blocked.
19:46I had some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:48Yeah.
19:50When was the last time it rained?
19:52Like a month ago. Why?
19:55Oh.
19:58Walls are wet.
19:59Yeah.
20:01What is this place?
20:03And how did you two get involved?
20:04Uh, Selena and I were about to clock out
20:06when we got the call.
20:07God, I hate this place.
20:11How many messed up things have to happen
20:12before they tear it down?
20:14Apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
20:16Westview says that they hold the deed,
20:18but then there's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:22Lucifer?
20:25Lucifer.
20:26Oh, my God.
20:27You're messing with me.
20:28Yes, I am.
20:29Come on, let's go find Tim and Lucy
20:30and get out of here.
20:32Don't step in there.
20:32Oh, what?
20:37Did you see that?
20:45Someone's flashlight?
20:47And that?
20:49I do not know what that was.
20:51Oh.
21:07Police, show us your hands.
21:13No!
21:15We have permission to be here.
21:17That's not totally true.
21:18No.
21:19All right.
21:20Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
21:22You're going to have to come with us.
21:25What are you doing here?
21:26Filming an episode, sir?
21:28Ghost files.
21:29I love you guys.
21:30What is ghost files?
21:32Welcome to Ghost Files,
21:33where we take your evidence and our tools
21:35into the field to expose the supernatural.
21:38My partner, a skeptic.
21:40Myself, a believer.
21:42Both of us, truth seekers.
21:43This week, our team has traveled to Los Angeles, California
21:46to explore a condemned psychiatric facility.
21:49Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks,
21:53but a massive earthquake swallowed the building,
21:55killing everyone inside.
21:56Many saw the event as retribution
21:58for Spanish crimes committed in the New World.
22:01Sure.
22:01Or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes.
22:06But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history.
22:09Join us as we investigate.
22:12At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted?
22:15No.
22:15Yes.
22:16You were filming there, too.
22:18Did you experience any temperature fluctuations
22:20or anything like that?
22:21I'll ask the questions if you don't mind.
22:23We do.
22:24But this is my documentary.
22:26No, this is our YouTube show.
22:28Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference.
22:32Did you experience any trouble with your equipment?
22:39We're done here.
22:40Let's cut.
22:41Let's wrap this up.
22:45Nice.
22:46Yeah.
22:46All of you, let's go.
22:48Come on.
22:48No, no way.
22:49This is some of the best footage we've ever gotten.
22:51Listen to this.
22:52What is that?
22:52Well, it's a spirit box.
22:54Did you guys hear anything?
22:55A spirit box?
22:56The spirit box rapidly scans radio signals
22:59to create white noise through which spirits can communicate.
23:03Hello?
23:05See?
23:05It's science.
23:08Listen.
23:12Okay.
23:12Okay.
23:12That's enough.
23:13Look, we got to go.
23:14No, wait, wait, wait.
23:14I heard something.
23:15Can you turn it up?
23:20Help me?
23:23That is not what I heard.
23:26Whoa.
23:27Uh, who do you think it is?
23:29It's feedback.
23:30It's a ghost.
23:32It was a little clearer down the hallway.
23:34Show me.
23:36Officer.
23:39So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy then?
23:42How long have we been in here?
23:47This room?
23:48Yeah.
23:49I don't know.
23:51We've been here for a while, right?
23:52Yeah.
23:53I mean, I don't mind if I'm good.
23:56Like, really good.
23:58Mm-hmm.
24:01Do you think we've been drugged?
24:04Oh, the wet walls.
24:08We touched them.
24:09Yeah.
24:10I hate making mistakes in front of you.
24:12Oh, you've never admitted that before.
24:16Truth serum.
24:18Sodium pentothal.
24:19Yeah.
24:20You know what?
24:22We, we should keep quiet until this wears off.
24:26No.
24:27Yeah.
24:28No.
24:28It's better for us.
24:29No.
24:30What is, um, your most embarrassing memory?
24:35I mean, third grade.
24:38Uh-huh.
24:38I snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants.
24:43I...
24:43I...
24:44With that kind of dad,
24:55you internalize the message that if you fail,
25:00you deserve to be punished.
25:01And without him to punish me, I...
25:05I guess I punished myself.
25:07By breaking up with me?
25:09Yep.
25:10Mm-hmm.
25:10I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
25:13It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself.
25:15You didn't punish just yourself, though.
25:18I know.
25:20And look, if you've never fully forgiven me,
25:23I totally understand.
25:23I have already forgiven you.
25:26It's not even.
25:31Huh.
25:32I wonder when that happened.
25:34You can't put that in the documentary.
25:37The LAPD makes all body cam footage available to the public.
25:40This is obviously an exception.
25:41We were drugged.
25:43I...
25:43People...
25:44People say all sorts of things when they've been drugged.
25:46So you didn't mean what you said.
25:48What about the potential baby names you discussed?
25:52Okay.
25:52We're done here.
25:52Yeah.
25:53Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
25:54I don't know.
25:55Excuse me.
25:56Okay, you have to admit, that's a voice asking for help.
25:59Yeah, sure, I heard it, but it's one of their crew members
26:01or something pre-recorded.
26:02Were you a patient here?
26:04Is the demon with you?
26:05Somebody covered up a door.
26:07What year did you die?
26:15What's up, guys?
26:16Okay.
26:22Watch out.
26:22Ready?
26:23Go.
26:24Oh, wow.
26:26Advocate.
26:31I've been trapped in here for so long, I thought I was going to die.
26:35Oh, my God.
26:36What is this room?
26:37Yeah, but why did they wall it all off?
26:39To trap the demon.
26:40Yeah.
26:40Bartleby.
26:41The terrifying demon king of paperwork.
26:43How did you get down here?
26:44How did you get down here?
26:46I was exploring.
26:47I'm following this weird, beautiful noise, when all of a sudden it got cold.
26:52Like, so, so cold.
26:54I could feel something coming after me.
26:56And I was scared.
26:57So I hid behind a cabinet, but the floor was wet and rusted and it collapsed.
27:03I couldn't climb back out.
27:04You fell from there?
27:05Are you okay?
27:06I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain.
27:09You've been missing for two weeks.
27:11How the hell did you survive?
27:13Oh.
27:13I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
27:19Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug in one of the cabinets.
27:23Plus, Bob.
27:24Bob had power bars.
27:26Bob had power bars.
27:27Bob?
27:28Oh, oh, God.
27:30If it wasn't for Bob, I would have lost my mind down here.
27:34Don't be shy, Bob.
27:36Say hello.
27:39Abigail was safe, and considering what she'd been through,
27:43uh, relatively healthy.
27:46Except for her mental state.
27:48That did pose some questions.
27:51At first, I was angry, you know?
27:53Like, we're stuck down here together.
27:55At least try and have a conversation.
27:57And then I realized Bob's just shy.
28:00He's just shy, and there's nothing wrong with that, right?
28:04Right.
28:04Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter?
28:07She went in perfectly sane and came out best friends with the corpse.
28:12That's our possession.
28:13You can't rule out demons.
28:15Yes, you can.
28:16Nolan, look at this.
28:20666, just like Zuzu said.
28:24It was a weird coincidence.
28:26It was a weird coincidence.
28:29We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system.
28:34I don't do drugs.
28:35Does pot count?
28:36No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens.
28:40I'm not hallucinating.
28:41I'm not hallucinating.
28:42Ask Bob.
28:43I had them run the test twice.
28:46I'm not hallucinating.
28:47I'm not hallucinating.
28:48I'm not hallucinating.
28:49I'm not hallucinating.
28:49I'm hallucinating.
28:50I'm not hallucinating.
28:51I'm hallucinating.
28:52I'm hallucinating.
28:53It's a weird coincidence.
28:54I have a crack in a pool, but I think that's a good idea of the murder.
28:56I'm hallucinating.
28:57bradford and officer chin into medical retirement is that what killed bob whatever drug they were
29:02exposed to no he was shot six times in the chest did you get an id on the body his name was bob
29:09medina a friend reporting him missing about six months ago he was a private investigator what
29:14was his connection to the hospital at first we couldn't find one so to be clear there was now
29:19a third killer associated with that location at this point it can't be a coincidence there has
29:24to be something about that facility that drives people towards homicide uh that's a stretch and a
29:29half westview is a hospital for the mentally ill and the criminally insane novak was a patient
29:33glass was there looking for a patsy and whoever killed bob saw an abandoned building was like
29:37that's a perfect place to dump a body what or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it
29:46you really believe that i'm catholic i was raised on demons in the battle against satan's minions
29:52well i was raised on the scientific method okay so if it's also explainable spend the night there
29:58i dare you pass you're scared no i'm not scared one could argue the drugs in the hospital are hardly
30:06surprising even hallucinogens over the decades they have been used in experimental medicine no true uh
30:12just the the type and volume is what set up what are you doing conducting an interview could you please
30:18come back in like an hour you said you'd talk to me for my documentary you have a documentary well
30:24it's my story who better to tell it well no problem i i can sit down with you just as soon as we're done
30:28here i wish it has to be exclusive you can't do both she's right it has to be exclusive either you're
30:34doing my doctor you're doing hers and we have a long history i was almost his daughter-in-law so suck
30:38it i'm gonna have to go with her i'm sorry seriously i i have a bafta okay fine let's wrap it up this
30:50way the set's this way it's better lighting over there we got a great team um we are gonna need our
30:55mic back yes of course we have our own sorry i'll see you guys around good luck what else i found inside
31:03secret lab oh right well uh you you did find some paperwork explosive paperwork evidence of a secret
31:11government program close the door softly please well i don't know that we can say that for sure oh we
31:16could my name is abigail tierney i'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at westview psychiatric
31:24all attempts at escape have proven fruitless if i'm gonna die here i leave you this footage along with
31:30my in-process documentary as evidence of my hunt for the truth about the evils that inhabit this
31:36accursed place
31:37what's this
31:41cool that's when i realized i'd uncovered something more haunting than any ghost or serial killer
31:49i'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to the very highest levels of our government
31:55the government files abigail found detailed classified plans and methods for human
32:03experimentation what type of experimentation are you familiar with mk ultra of course it was a top
32:09secret cia program in the 50s and 60s using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques it was
32:15straight up mind control i mean they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like lsd sodium pentothal which is
32:21also known as a truth serum the program ran from 1953 to 1973 before it was shut down following
32:30a public outcry i mean all the facilities were closed there's no evidence the cia ever used westview as
32:35a base of operations so what were top secret mk ultra documents doing there good question
32:41we started digging into the trova files abigail had found and one name kept popping up again and again
32:46dr julius erickson he was one of these psychologists contracted by the cia to conduct experimental
32:54research and after mk ultra shut down he took a new job director of westview dr erickson ran the
33:01hospital for 20 years and from the notes we uncovered it seems clear he continued his own research in
33:07private trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from mk ultra to further his own research into mind
33:12altering drugs i assume you used those drugs on westview patients yeah at first but then he started
33:18using them on himself believing he had found the key to improving his own mind he hadn't and in a last
33:24moment of lucidity erickson decided to destroy his research he dumped the chemicals outside the building
33:29where they started to slowly seep into the structure and some of the drugs were potent enough to be absorbed
33:34simply by touch even when diluted erickson committed himself to westview shortly after never said another word
33:41he died in 2020 did the cia ever find out what erickson was doing not that we found but it's not like
33:48the agency ever returns our phone calls anyone who studied the past knows that the cia has a history
33:56of violent cover-ups mk ultra might have become public but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets
34:01to protect by uncovering dr erickson's connection to westview and discovering bob's body i've put myself in
34:09danger but the best way to protect yourself is with the truth which brings me to carolyn mcgrath
34:16turns out carolyn is the one who hired bob to go to westview and i need to find out why before it's too
34:22too late
34:33what the hell
34:36we got lucky a woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion and filmed abigail's abduction thanks to
34:42them we were able to track the vehicle where to go back to where it all began westview
34:52police drop the weapon on the ground hands on your head turn around walk towards my partner
35:00hands behind your back you okay yeah totally fine carl's going through it though god never really even
35:08knew my mother does anyone really what is going on here well uh my friend carl here was being pressured
35:14into killing me um but then we got to talking right yeah and i couldn't yeah we keep pushing by who
35:21um my boss meg davidson who the current director at westview psychiatric
35:30but she started working at the hospital long after julius erickson went
35:34mad and she has no links to the cia so why would she try to kill abigail to cover up bob's murder and
35:40who killed bob can you introduce yourself oh yes my name is caroline mcgrath you hired my friend bob
35:47medina because you had questions about your friend winona's treatment at westview right yes of course
35:53everyone thought i was just being paranoid but bob didn't and it got him killed you work with winona
35:59baker right yes um she was hospitalized with depression by her daughter seemed like therapy
36:06and some medication would help her but winona got worse fast i lost track of reality she exhibited
36:14signs of psychosis paranoia dissociation and by that point i wondered whether a transfer to a new
36:21facility might be in her best interest and then uh the director informed me that winona's family
36:27had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship and they wanted her to stay for good you were suspicious
36:34winona always had her funks but she wasn't crazy until that place made her lose her mind and that
36:40proved to be the break you needed yeah when we started looking into it it turned out a significant
36:46number of westview patients were wealthy and a high percentage were ordered into conservatorship
36:52no uh conservatorship is extremely difficult to get for an adult because of the potential
36:57abuse of power it gives one party legal authority over certain aspects of another person's life
37:02including managing all of their assets it's like what happened to britney spears manage their assets
37:07rich person speak for controlling someone else's money yes and money makes people do crazy things
37:15like um poison their family member's water with a chemical cocktail so potent it has the potential to
37:20permanently damage the human psyche yeah just like that i was supposed to inherit but um after my break
37:33with reality my dad cut me off and uh my brother got everything what's everything oh about um 12 million
37:40dollars must have been hard going from that kind of wealth to nannying oh no no it was a blessing
37:46i i really think that helping children was my calling once we found the pattern we started
37:53interviewing some of the families a little pressure and they cracked and with the search warrant we found
37:58the gun used to kill bop adina and director davidson's closet she'd been running her scam for a decade
38:04turns out she was dr erickson's therapist in the last years of his life he must have told her about his
38:11experiments in exploring his old lab she'd uncovered the tainted water realized its potential yeah we
38:17had her on murder fraud elder abuse kidnapping attempted murder poisoning miss davidson would you
38:24like to make a comment you know this might be your last chance to tell your side of the story
38:32look at all these people watching the state ordered a full investigation into every conservatorship
38:37westview ordered god willing the victims will get their rights and assets back and westview itself
38:43has been closed for good but the lawsuits are just starting not to mention the rest of the legal
38:48ramifications i'm glad this is getting so much attention these poor abused patients can finally get
38:55justice do you think it could impact your case at all certainly it gives my defense a fresh coat of
39:00paint the jury won't listen to reason because i am innocent perhaps they will listen to the tragic
39:07story of a simple tradesman falling victim to a poisoned environment that chemically affected my psyche
39:16and what did that environment make you do who can say certainly not me i i wasn't in my right mind
39:25yeah the um the poisoned water was only found in the abandoned psych ward no vending machines left to fill
39:32there right at this point i must confess i did go inside that abandoned ward back when i was a kid
39:40my father's warnings they didn't scare me away they only made me more desperate to see
39:46that whatever lurked inside
39:52must have infected me
39:53glasser's claiming that the presence of those drugs would absolve him of any alleged responsibility
40:02for the murders there's no way that defense is going to work we have glasser dead to rights are you sure
40:07about that
40:23hey hey sorry i know we talked about me not recording interviews in here but roge mentioned he needed a
40:29space with great acoustics and um and you know we're acting we're shutting it down we're shutting it
40:34down shut it shut it shutting it down copy hi sorry she said this was cool you're gonna help me get
40:41these in the van yeah i'll be right there next time handcuffs and squad cars yeah totally understandable
40:52thanks again for going exclusive with me seriously this dock is going to be huge
40:56i hope so you deserve something good after what you've been through how are you holding up oh i'm
41:02fine i'm happy to have something to focus on when i've been through some scary times i have been
41:08guilty of using my work as my therapy but if there's ever a time you need someone to talk to thank you
41:15really but i already have a great therapist one with zero history at westview excellent
41:20you know there's still something i can't figure out how did you know that the pi was working for
41:28caroline mcgrath oh bob told me while we were stuck in the lab he got chatty once he opened up i have
41:36that effect on people we have to come back because our job isn't finished this hospital has housed killers
41:43evil experiments and perhaps the supernatural our job as investigators is to collect and present
41:49questions and possibilities interpretation however solely belongs with you did westview really
42:03should we check that out
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