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  • 7/3/2025

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00:00The last time we spoke was about three weeks ago, and that was just after the Twitter exchange between your son and President Trump.
00:09And you said at the time that you hoped that the two men would quickly draw a line under their feud.
00:14That doesn't seem to be happening. If anything, things seem to be escalating, don't they?
00:19Well, you know, the world is in a terrible state of flux at the moment. And I myself find it not only here in this country, but I've been overseas in the last month in three or four countries.
00:34And everywhere, it seems to be that people are very confused about the way forward.
00:42I'm grateful that we have at least Trump and not Biden or Harris or whatever the name was in America.
00:52But I quite frankly don't quite know what to say about the things that are going on.
01:00My son is a very straightforward individual.
01:05So it's difficult not to take note of what he says because he's not a fool.
01:12He is a very, very, how can you say, a very pantillious or whatever the right word is, sort of person.
01:21He doesn't mess with words. He says what he means and says what he feels.
01:28So it's very difficult to ignore the things he says.

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