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'Shocking Misuse Of Federal Funds': Ryan Mackenzie Presses Kari Lake Over VOA's $250 Million Office
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7/3/2025
During a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Ryan Mackenzie (R-PA) asked USAGM Kari Lake about Voice Of America.
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Investigation. Chair now recognizes Representative McKenzie. Thank you, Mr.
00:04
Chairman, and thank you, Ms. Lake, for joining us today. I think it is imperative
00:09
that we recognize the challenge that VOA faces in terms of the infiltration that
00:15
we've been talking about during this hearing of the anti-American information
00:19
that has been put out, whether it's pro-Russia, pro-China. All of this is
00:24
problematic, and I think it's also a problem that members on this committee
00:29
aren't willing to recognize that problem. If we can't all come together and
00:34
recognize the fact that this organization and this agency is conflicted in many
00:39
ways, I don't know how we're going to address the problem. So I appreciate the
00:43
fact that you've recognized that, and your reform efforts are critical. If we
00:48
want to actually advance America's interest around the world, get out this
00:52
truthful information, we need to make sure that we are then going to be in a
00:57
position to spend the dollars that we're appropriating for this program
01:00
effectively. So the question that I have relates to two, I think, misuses of public
01:06
funds. The first is about a lease. So we have a video that has been provided that
01:12
shows a facility that was leased for 15 years, $250 million, $250 million of taxpayer money to
01:23
lease this lavish building in downtown Washington, D.C. on Pennsylvania Avenue.
01:27
Nice. Yet at the same time, they are still occupying the Cohen Building. So tell me
01:34
about this new lease and what we know about it at this point. Well their plan was
01:38
to take this operation and move it into this building, a quarter of a billion
01:41
dollar boondoggle that Amanda Bennett, the former CEO under Joe Biden's
01:46
administration, the former CEO of USAGM, signed in this lease right before, in the fall,
01:52
right before the election, to make the American taxpayers pay for this gorgeous
01:57
facility. Have you ever seen a federal facility this beautiful, by the way? And
02:01
there you go, you've got waterfalls, you've got Italian marble, glass, and they were
02:07
going to move everybody over into this building. One slight problem, it's not set
02:11
up or equipped to do any broadcasting, and this is a broadcasting agency. So we
02:18
canceled that. We canceled that and tore up the lease and said we're not going to
02:21
pay for that lease. Thank you for doing that because that is just a shocking
02:25
misuse of federal funds. And if we do want to actually carry out the good work
02:30
that VOA possibly could do, we need to make sure that American tax dollars are
02:34
being spent appropriately and not on wasteful leases like this one. So
02:38
appreciate your effort to cancel that lease. The second thing that I would like
02:42
to talk about is relating to some really egregious settlements that were carried
02:48
out previously for former employees of the agency. And you referenced it in your
02:55
opening testimony. So I would like to hear a little bit more about this. Again, it
02:59
sounds like a misuse of federal funds. And if you could share some more
03:03
information on that. I think a lot of DC lawyers figured out a quick way to make
03:07
money is to sue this agency. This agency will roll over and pay off any settlement.
03:12
As a matter of fact, one of our former attorneys at the agency, upon seeing how
03:18
many settlements were made there, said that she's never seen so many large
03:22
settlements go out in any agency. I have in this binder 19 settlements. We only
03:30
picked the big ones over $250,000 settlements. 19 $250,000 settlements were made
03:37
out of USAGM in the last five years. A couple of them were for folks, a man named David
03:45
Kligerman who used to work for the agency. Now he works I believe over at Middle East
03:50
Broadcasting. He left the agency after the McGuire Woods report came out showing miss
03:58
spending, miss abuse of the agency, abuse of the federal tax dollar. And then he came
04:03
back when Biden and put Amanda Bennett in, hired him back and paid him a $650,000
04:10
settlement. His attorneys made a fortune as well. I think they figured out that
04:15
they've got compliant, a compliant legal office at USAGM that will settle anything.
04:19
All you got to do is sue the agency and they'll throw tons of money your way. And
04:24
that's another way they've pilfered tax dollars of the American people.
04:27
Well, I appreciate your work to highlight the waste and misuse from the last administration.
04:32
When our country is trillions of dollars in debt, running multi-trillion dollar deficits
04:38
every single year, we have to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars. It's finally time to do
04:42
that. I'm glad this administration is taking on that effort, attacking waste and abuse of
04:48
federal funds like I just talked about here. And if we actually want to get back to the mission
04:53
of promoting American interests around the world, we need to do that with the tax dollars
04:58
that we have available. And so these reform efforts that we're talking about today are
05:01
so critically important. And I, again, want to thank you for our efforts and work with
05:06
you hand in hand as we actually get back to the critical missions that this agency could
05:10
provide for America and American interests around the world. Thank you.
05:14
Thank you. Chair now recognizes representative Titus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before
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