People with No Inner Dialogue!

Name: People with No Inner Dialogue!
Uploaded: 2025-06-30T02:14:36+00:00
Duration: 1 h 9 min 13 s
Channel: Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux

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Sunday Morning Live 29 June 2025

In this episode, I explore the nature of inner dialogue and its impact on empathy and communication. I reveal that many individuals operate without an inner monologue, prompting discussions on understanding differing perspectives in conflicts. We also examine the development of children's inner dialogue through questioning, the role of fiction in fostering empathy, and the challenges posed by “weaponized empathy.” Personal anecdotes highlight the importance of literature in shaping our understanding of human behavior. Ultimately, I emphasize the value of cultivating inner dialogue to enhance self-awareness and improve our relationships.

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00:00:00Hello, hello, everybody.

00:00:04Yo, how you doing, my friends?

00:00:11Good afternoon to those not in Eastern Standard.

00:00:15Good morning to those who are.

00:00:16Welcome to our Sunday morning Church of the Mind.

00:00:20We are talking about philosophy today.

00:00:23freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

00:00:25Thank you so much for dropping by.

00:00:27It is a great pleasure.

00:00:28Hello and welcome.

00:00:30To all of the lovely folks I've been engaging with on X,

00:00:34it is a great pleasure to chat with you.

00:00:39And I look forward to your questions and comments.

00:00:43Very humbly and gratefully appreciated.

00:00:46It is great to chat with you.

00:00:47And thank you for the great conversations that have been going on.

00:00:54And let me just get to your comments here.

00:00:56Questions, challenges, issues, whatever you dislike.

00:01:00About what I say, whatever you want to criticize about what I say.

00:01:05I am literally beyond thrilled to be corrected.

00:01:10And I am just going to write here, post questions here.

00:01:17Hello, Bayo.

00:01:18Nice to see you.

00:01:20Reply.

00:01:21And does it do a live chat?

00:01:25I feel like I feel like it did.

00:01:29I feel like it did.

00:01:30But I don't know if it still does.

00:01:32Anyway, that is neither here nor there.

00:01:36If you are over on the locals platform, I can start to take calls, if you like.

00:01:45And I am just going to put out the text here.

00:01:50If you want to do calls, you can do that.

00:01:58We can talk there.

00:02:00Ah, ah, ah, ah, call.

00:02:05And there we go.

00:02:06I am afraid that my producer is not here today.

00:02:12He is selfishly doing something else.

00:02:16Just kidding.

00:02:17It is fine.

00:02:17Are you still mad at me, Steph?

00:02:21Says another two cents.

00:02:22So this is somebody who drops by the live stream and doesn't admit faults and just kind of escalates.

00:02:29And it's aggressive.

00:02:31Honestly, I don't think about you.

00:02:33I'm not mad at you.

00:02:34I don't have any grudges.

00:02:36I just don't want to talk.

00:02:37That's all.

00:02:39It's just.

00:02:43Yeah, it's just I don't.

00:02:45I don't.

00:02:45Well, it's like I'm so mad at me.

00:02:48It's funny because people who are annoying always think that they're having more of an impact on others than they are.

00:02:59And I think that's kind of a sad thing.

00:03:06It doesn't really.

00:03:08It doesn't really impact.

00:03:09If I find something, let's say I go to a restaurant, right?

00:03:12And the restaurant serves me a bad meal, right?

00:03:17And then, you know, three weeks later, the restaurant owner calls me and says, are you still mad at me?

00:03:23It's like, no, I'm not mad at you.

00:03:26I just didn't have a good meal.

00:03:27So, I'm not coming back.

00:03:29It's really all it comes down to.

00:03:31It's not.

00:03:31It's not that.

00:03:32It's literally not that complicated.

00:03:34That's by my daughter's phrase.

00:03:36Dad, go back on Twitter.

00:03:37It's literally not that complicated.

00:03:39It's literally not that deep.

00:03:41And then she makes irrefutable arguments that I end up having to be a slave to.

00:03:46Brian Ferry is a slave to love.

00:03:48I'm slave to thought.

00:03:49Slave to thought.

00:03:50That's all I have.

00:03:51So, anyway, I hope you're having a great day.

00:03:55If you have questions, comments, of course, as I was saying, it's literally not that serious.

00:04:00You're overthinking it.

00:04:01Can you imagine?

00:04:03Can you imagine?

00:04:04No, you can't.

00:04:05You can't imagine that somebody could say to me, Steph, you're overthinking it.

00:04:16Impossible.

00:04:17I am highly offended.

00:04:21So, I guess I let rip a couple of bangers on X, which I'll sort of mention here.

00:04:27And I'm happy to talk about those topics and comments as well.

00:04:32I suppose there was a big one.

00:04:36But the big one, which I did last night, it's funny because, you know, right before going to sleep,

00:04:41I whip off a couple of tweets and those are the ones that seem to cook.

00:04:44And I wrote, it is essential to remember that between a third and a half of people have no inner monologue or dialogue.

00:04:53They don't debate with themselves.

00:04:55They have no inner conversations.

00:04:56They exist in the blur of images and sensations and feelings.

00:04:59And they are all around you.

00:05:02And, of course, I was talking about this maybe three or four years ago on the show.

00:05:06It was a surprise to me.

00:05:07I've had time to integrate it.

00:05:09It is a surprise, of course, to others, which I, you know, of course, sympathize with.

00:05:13And people are like, they're shocked at the numbers, right?

00:05:17Oh, God, how could it be?

00:05:18And I wrote, I'm actually being generous.

00:05:20This is from another article which cited a bunch of studies.

00:05:23If you're wondering which experience is more common, research shows that most people don't have an inner monologue.

00:05:30Only 30 to 50 percent of people have inner monologues, which means up to 70 percent of people don't have a talkative brain.

00:05:37And people are quite shocked.

00:05:44People, you know, you should you should create an account on X and follow me.

00:05:47It's it's it's good.

00:05:49It's spicy.

00:05:50I'm enjoying it and I'm getting great feedback and all of this lovely stuff.

00:05:54So I hope that you will.

00:05:58Will follow me on X.

00:06:00It feels very important.

00:06:04And James, if you could look up how I access the comments on the feed, I just see a feed.

00:06:10You know, let's promote it.

00:06:11Yeah, I just have a feed.

00:06:16But I don't I just see comments under the feed.

00:06:20I don't see live chats within the feed.

00:06:21I don't know why.

00:06:22I think I saw it once before, but tips to figure out if someone has an inner voice as a great question.

00:06:28It's a great question.

00:06:30And I was having a conversation about that just this morning.

00:06:34Not that there was anyone else in the room, of course.

00:06:37So how to how to figure out if somebody has an inner voice.

00:06:40Well, this is true of conflict in general.

00:06:44If you find yourself getting stuck in a conflict, then.

00:06:48The best thing to do is to ask the person to describe your point of view, not to agree with it.

00:06:56Just to describe it.

00:07:00Can you describe my point of view?

00:07:03It is a mark, of course, of empathy and to some degree of intelligence to be able to entertain a perspective you do not agree with.

00:07:11Can you play the devil's advocate?

00:07:12You know, when I was in I was vice president of the debating club because they needed a president who was full of vice.

00:07:19I was vice president of the debating club in university, traveled all over Canada debating.

00:07:27And in debating, you don't know which side you're going to get.

00:07:30So they have Bert, be it, resolve that debate.

00:07:34And you didn't know which side you were going to get.

00:07:37So you had to be able to argue both sides.

00:07:41If you are an actor, you have to be able to empathize with a character who's not your own and convincingly speak words that you don't necessarily agree with.

00:07:51Or may, in fact, be they might be quite difficult or unpleasant for you to to accept.

00:07:56It's one of the reasons why modern movies in particular and TV is so boring because writers can't create a convincing villain.

00:08:04Now, they're all afraid, right?

00:08:05I mean, I think they lack that capacity as a whole, but they're also all afraid if you create too convincing a villain, then you're going to be accused of sympathizing with the villain and making him too charismatic and making people become extremists.

00:08:18Yeah, like communism is not extremism.

00:08:20But so if you're in a conflict, ask people to describe your perspective because you're trying to get something across to them.

00:08:31You don't honestly know sometimes if they're capable of listening, of understanding, of appreciating your perspective, right?

00:08:45You don't know.

00:08:46Oh, there's the chat.

00:08:48There's the chat.

00:08:50Ah, I see the chat.

00:08:53Uh-huh.

00:08:54I just had to do something completely different than what I was doing for reasons that I don't quite understand.

00:08:59So I will get your chat comments here.

00:09:03Chats here, please.

00:09:06But yeah, so get someone to describe your perspective, right?

00:09:10And one of the things that, of course, people, the partisans, right?

00:09:16The partisans were commenting and saying, oh, but it's only people on the left who really have empathy.

00:09:21And it's like, eh, no.

00:09:23Like, absolutely not.

00:09:26And this is actually quite well known.

00:09:28But not by everyone, of course, because the left controls the media.

00:09:31But if you go to people on the left and you ask them to describe the positions of people on the right, generally, all they can do is insult, right?

00:09:46So people on the right often have some skepticism about mass immigration.

00:09:49You go to people on the left and say, well, what is their issue?

00:09:53What is the issues of the people on the right with mass immigration?

00:09:56And they'll just say, a xenophobic racist.

00:09:59You know, all they can, they can't actually process why someone would have a different opinion or an opposing opinion.

00:10:05Everyone who has an opposing opinion is just evil.

00:10:08And they just, so there's no negotiation that's possible.

00:10:11You cannot negotiate with people who can't even describe your position.

00:10:14All you can do is fold, like a cheap shirt, right?

00:10:19Whereas if you go to people who are conservatives and you say, can you describe the liberal position, they often do a pretty good job of it.

00:10:25I mean, they don't agree with it, but they do a pretty good job of it.

00:10:29And so that is just a, and I think it has something to do with, of course, people on the right tend to be quite religious.

00:10:38And you pray, and praying is working with an inner voice, so to speak.

00:10:44I mean, if you believe it's God, then it's God.

00:10:46But if you don't, then you're working with an inner voice and do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

00:10:51That sort of basic empathy stuff, it means that you have to figure out what other people would like and what you would like and work and negotiate with that.

00:10:59So, yeah, I think that the best way to figure out if somebody has an inner voice, well, you can just ask them, right?

00:11:05But they may have trouble articulating it because if you don't have an inner voice, you can work really well with math.

00:11:10The numbers are not language exactly.

00:11:12You can work really well with objects, which is why it's not necessarily associated with IQ because you get super smart engineers.

00:11:20They don't have an inner voice in the way that a lot of people do, but they work brilliantly with numbers and objects and so on, right?

00:11:27So I try to avoid the prejudice of, well, if I have an inner voice, clearly I'm smarter.

00:11:32But I think it has something to do with empathy and the people who don't have an inner voice, you can see them being sort of triggered and reactive and hostile and sarcastic.

00:11:40On the thread, maybe it has something to do with empathy.

00:11:43I think it does.

00:11:44But it's not an IQ thing.

00:11:46And, of course, they're just a – you know, people are saying, well, they're like animals.

00:11:49It's like, no, they're not like animals.

00:11:50They're just a different kind of person.

00:11:52They're just a different kind of person.

00:11:53And it's important to know, you know, that a third to a half of the people you meet – now, probably not in your social circle, probably not in your family circle because this inner dialogue stuff starts developing around the age of two or three.

00:12:06I assume there's environmental factors.

00:12:08There are probably strong genetic components, but it is just the way that it is.

00:12:11And one of the things that I was talking about as well was I was saying that an inner voice, I think, often develops out of resource conservation, the need for resource conservation.

00:12:24So if you have a really cold, long winter, you need to stock up a whole bunch of food ahead of time or your family – you and your family are going to starve to death.

00:12:31So you need to have a voice which says, ooh, are you sure?

00:12:36Are you absolutely sure you have enough food?

00:12:38Are you sure you have enough food?

00:12:41And it's going to nag at you until you have absolute certain evidence that you have enough food, and then you can relax, right?

00:12:52But you can't relax.

00:12:53So I think it comes from, are you sure?

00:12:56Are you sure?

00:12:57Whereas it's different in other locations.

00:13:00So I think it comes out of that.

00:13:01It could be any other number of things, but I think that's a pretty strong component.

00:13:06So what are other ways?

00:13:09So as somebody who enjoys reading fiction is probably – certainly the reading of fiction is pretty important to the development of empathy.

00:13:18I mean, annoyingly precocious kid that I was, I was plowing through Crime and Punishment at the age of 12, and Crime and Punishment, and Dostoevsky as a whole.

00:13:26But Crime and Punishment is the absolute pinnacle of a lot of empathetic writing.

00:13:33And he really delved into the mind of an ideologically captured murderer, which was something that he strongly opposed.

00:13:42But it is a great way – you know, there's an old saying that reading a novel is a chance of trying on another life for size.

00:13:49Novels are looking deeply into the thoughts, not just of the author, if you have a third-person omniscient authorship style like he did, she did, because – and the author can dip into people's thoughts.

00:13:59They can go anywhere.

00:14:00They can be absolutely certain about the inner states of minds of people, which we really can't be just in the mortal realm.

00:14:05So, not only are you delving into the writer's thoughts, but the writer, if they're a good writer, will be delving into the thoughts and motivations of the characters.

00:14:15I'm currently writing a – actually, just yesterday, I was writing a chapter in my new novel about postpartum depression.

00:14:25And I was asking people on X, women in particular, of course, right, to give me sort of their thoughts and experiences of it,

00:14:29because I want to try and capture it accurately, the causes and the motivations and the expressions and the process of postpartum depression.

00:14:38So, a really good writer will reveal his or her thoughts to you as well as the thoughts of the characters,

00:14:44and that gets you good practice in going into the mind of others.

00:14:50So, if somebody reads fiction, if they lack certainty, right?

00:14:56I mean, people who don't have inner debates often have a kind of unearned certainty.

00:15:03I mentioned this on Twitter.

00:15:04I refer to them as the period people, and the period people refers to, well, it's just this way, period, or it's simple, it's just this, right?

00:15:15I, you know, I posted about, like, why is it that people treat family members badly and strangers well?

00:15:23Like, I talked about how my mother would be mean to me and then really nice to the waiter at the restaurant,

00:15:28or she'd be screaming at me or yelling at me, and then the door would – someone would knock on the door,

00:15:33and she'd be, ah, you know, sugar wouldn't melt on her tongue.

00:15:38So, and people were like, oh, come on, it's simple, it's just bleh, right?

00:15:43And it's like, period people, oversimplifying people, I think they lack an inner dialogue.

00:15:48Because the moment I'm tempted to say that something is just simple, my inner dialogue says, really?

00:15:55Really?

00:15:56Can it just be simple?

00:16:00Or people who think that, like, they would talk about people who are like this, you know, cruel to family members,

00:16:05but nice to outsiders, transitory, like people passing by, right?

00:16:09Because it makes no sense, right?

00:16:11I mean, it makes no sense.

00:16:12Like, why would you be nicer to a waiter than your own son?

00:16:14Who's going to take care of you in your old age?

00:16:16Not the waiter.

00:16:17The waiter won't even remember you exist in 10 minutes, right?

00:16:21But why would you be – oh, if you could repost the stream, like I really would.

00:16:26I really would appreciate that.

00:16:28But, yeah, why would you – why would you be nicer to people you're never going to see again

00:16:33than the people you actually share a life with?

00:16:36Like, it doesn't make any sense.

00:16:38It's, like, absolutely ensuring that a swimming pool in Dubai is perfectly clean

00:16:44and then peeing and pooping in your own pool in order to swim.

00:16:47Like, it just – so, the causality is interesting.

00:16:51And people would say, well, it's simple.

00:16:52It's just this, that, and the other to get it wrong.

00:16:54They'd say, well, it's just human nature.

00:16:55It's like, well, then why doesn't everyone do it?

00:16:56I don't do that.

00:16:57I'm not nicer to strangers than I am to family members.

00:17:00I mean, I try to be nice to just about everyone, but I'm not that way.

00:17:04So, it doesn't explain that.

00:17:06Or people would say, well, that's narcissistic personality disorder.

00:17:09It's like, okay.

00:17:11But putting a label on something doesn't explain it.

00:17:18I mean, if you see something – let's say you're an astronaut, you go to some other world,

00:17:21and you see some life form, you don't know what it is, right?

00:17:24It's like, I don't – what the hell is that life form?

00:17:25It's like, we will name it Jabberwocky.

00:17:28It's a Jabberwocky.

00:17:29It's like, but you haven't told me what it is.

00:17:31You've just given it a label.

00:17:33It doesn't answer anything to put a label on something.

00:17:35Well, it's just narcissistic personality disorder, which tells me what.

00:17:39It has a label, not what it is, not what it is.

00:17:45Oh, nice, these slippery girls.

00:17:46All right.

00:17:49All right.

00:17:50So, let's get to your questions.

00:17:54Let's get to your questions.

00:17:57I asked this in reply to your post, your ex-post.

00:17:59Is there a way to foster the inner dialogue in young children, or is it just something you're born with?

00:18:05Well, inner dialogues come to some degree from doubt, and they can't be calmed in a state of danger.

00:18:14Like a lot of people were posting, it's like, oh, my God, my inner dialogue is driving me crazy,

00:18:17and my inner dialogue just doesn't stop.

00:18:18It's driving me, and it's like, but that's because probably, in my opinion, obviously,

00:18:23that it's because you're in a state of danger, right?

00:18:25So, I think we've all had this situation.

00:18:28Wait, did you hear that?

00:18:31You wake up in the middle of the night, and you think you hear a thump downstairs,

00:18:34or maybe even the sound of breaking glass.

00:18:36I like the sound of breaking glass.

00:18:39And if you don't believe me, why did you ask?

00:18:42I hope he gets his hearing back, Huey Lewis.

00:18:44Anyway, so, you wake up.

00:18:47Wait, what?

00:18:48I once lived in a new house, and it was settling.

00:18:55Like every other night, I was living in a pirate ship.

00:19:00And I'd wake up, and I'd be like, did I hear something?

00:19:08What was that?

00:19:09What the hell was it?

00:19:09And, you know, you get this for men.

00:19:11I'm sure it's true for women as well.

00:19:12But for me, it's just as a sort of provider-protector guy.

00:19:15What do I have to do?

00:19:16Well, I have to get up and check the house.

00:19:20Now, if I check the house, and there's nothing and no one there,

00:19:24and you don't want to go all right, Bradbury, and check the attic.

00:19:27But, you know, it's not a game of hide-and-go-seek with an axe murderer.

00:19:31At least you hope.

00:19:32So, once you've checked the house, then you can go back to sleep.

00:19:35But if you hear, like, the sound of breaking glass, a big thump downstairs,

00:19:39maybe your wife went up for a midnight snack and dropped a bowl or something, right?

00:19:45But assuming she's there beside you and there's nobody else in the house,

00:19:47you've got to go check it out.

00:19:49You can't just go back, oh, I'm sure it's nothing, and go back to sleep.

00:19:53You can't do that.

00:19:54Because your inner voice is like, you don't know that there's nobody here,

00:19:58but we sure heard something.

00:20:00Maybe it was a dream.

00:20:00Maybe something just fell off the counter, maybe.

00:20:03But you've got to check it out.

00:20:05And you can't go back to sleep.

00:20:06So, your inner voice won't leave you alone until you establish a state of security.

00:20:12So, to me, again, it's just my particular personal amateur advice,

00:20:15but I would say that if your inner voice is really insistent and aggressive and so on,

00:20:24like Brian Wilson style,

00:20:25then you probably are in a state of danger in some manner.

00:20:31And maybe it could be perceived danger, but I generally don't think that perceived danger is where you start.

00:20:37You work to eliminate all possible real dangers out there.

00:20:42And the psychological dangers can be the worst of all.

00:20:44So, with kids, if you want them to foster an inner dialogue, don't just feed them answers.

00:20:50Ask them questions.

00:20:51Yeah, well, why is the sky blue?

00:20:56Well, your instant instinct as a parent, or maybe this is more of a dad thing,

00:20:59is to say, well, it's blue because of the wavelength,

00:21:01and this is just the distance from the wavelength of the sun hitting the atmosphere to hitting the ground, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:21:08And it's like, I don't know.

00:21:09Why do you think it's blue?

00:21:10And you stimulate the child's questions.

00:21:16And I think that's how you provoke an inner dialogue.

00:21:19If you're just feeding answers, whatever you feed answers to becomes passive,

00:21:23and you want your children to have active minds.

00:21:24So, don't just feed them answers.

00:21:27Right?

00:21:28I think you should share more.

00:21:30Well, why is sharing more good?

00:21:32Well, people will like you, and it's reciprocal altruism,

00:21:35and wouldn't you want people to share with you?

00:21:36Just give them these answers.

00:21:37It's like, why do you think sharing is good?

00:21:40I mean, if you pretend you don't know, you stimulate your children's thinking,

00:21:46and you can get great value out of it.

00:21:50I mean, I'm back on X because my daughter made a great case rather than me just saying,

00:21:55well, the reason I'm not on X is X, Y, and Z, period.

00:21:59Right?

00:21:59So, yeah.

00:22:01I mean, don't just give answers to your kids.

00:22:06Ask them questions.

00:22:07And you might be really surprised, right?

00:22:13All right.

00:22:13If someone can't turn their inner monologue off, would that make them borderline schizophrenic?

00:22:18I mean, again, I don't have any capacity to diagnose anyone with any mental ailments.

00:22:22I'm just a philosophy guy on the internet.

00:22:25But I think that schizophrenia is a little bit more than just hearing voices.

00:22:28I think it's hallucinations and dissociation and unreality and all that kind of stuff as well.

00:22:32But no, and in a monologue, it's not someone's yelling in your ear.

00:22:37Like the late singer-songwriter from the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson, I talked about this a couple of weeks ago when he died.

00:22:43I've read his autobiography, and he literally had voices in his ear, like telling him he was a piece of crap and he should die and they were coming to kill him.

00:22:51And normally he had a very abusive father, and I assume it was internalized.

00:22:55But he literally hallucinated.

00:22:56Having an inner dialogue is just, ooh, shouldn't I, shouldn't I, back and forth.

00:23:00And it's not just voices, and it's not audible voices.

00:23:04If you really want to figure this out, slow down the process of reading and figure out how do you read.

00:23:09It's a pretty wild thing to do.

00:23:12So when you listen to an audiobook, that's different from you reading a book silently, right?

00:23:18And how does it work?

00:23:19Well, the words form in your mind, but not like someone speaking.

00:23:21The words just form in your mind.

00:23:22It's a fascinating thing to slow down your reading and see what the heck's going on in your mind.

00:23:26And so inner dialogues are not two people arguing in your ears, like there's two people on either side of you arguing, I guess one person on either side, or more, if you want.

00:23:39Or as a friend of mine, when we were teenagers, we were joking around, and he said, it was in resumes.

00:23:46Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:23:47What was it?

00:23:50Hobbies.

00:23:50He says, what's the point of hobbies, right?

00:23:52What's the point of putting down your hobbies in a resume?

00:23:55And he said, what am I going to say?

00:23:56Hobbies.

00:23:57Schizophrenia.

00:23:59Please also see attached resumes.

00:24:01I thought that was – hear me, I am resurrecting a joke from over 40 years ago that nobody would ever remember otherwise, but I just always remembered.

00:24:07I thought it was very funny.

00:24:09I had some very – I wrote about these types of people in my novel, The God of Atheists.

00:24:13Very funny, but a little bit over cynical and sometimes nihilistic.

00:24:16So, in terms of turning the inner monologue off, if you're in a situation of peace and relaxation and surrounded by love and positivity, then I think it's pretty easy to do – turn it off.

00:24:28Just think of your O-face, right?

00:24:30You're not having a debate with yourself when you're having an orgasm, so a sufficient level of happiness diminishes the inner voices.

00:24:39And they also turn more playful and creative when you're in a safe situation.

00:24:43So, there's really nothing better than a safety in the world, which is why those who want to keep you weak constantly endanger you, like politicians and so on, right?

00:24:58All right, let me get to your questions.

00:25:05Explain self-monologue language.

00:25:08Is language for social interaction?

00:25:12Self-monologue language.

00:25:14I mean, I hate to say it's tough to – well, it's just this, period, right?

00:25:17It is tough to explain.

00:25:19So, for me, I don't think just in terms of language.

00:25:22I think in emotions, I have a feel when something is wrong.

00:25:26My wife is fantastic this way, too.

00:25:28So, I have a feeling.

00:25:30Like, you ever have this thing, like, somebody gives you an argument, and it seems compelling, but you feel that it's wrong.

00:25:36Like, I had a conversation, which is available for donors at freedomain.locals.com.

00:25:41I had a conversation with a woman who was an OnlyFans worker, and she was monetized.

00:25:46She had monetized her biological, physical attributes.

00:25:51And I said, well, it's not going to be particularly satisfying because you didn't earn it.

00:25:56And then somebody wrote to me, and it was an annoyingly good argument.

00:26:00And he said, well, Steph, you just happen to have a big brain, and you have commoditized, like, by going out on the Internet, you ask for donations.

00:26:08Freedomain.com slash donate.

00:26:09I'd really appreciate that.

00:26:10But you've monetized, Steph.

00:26:12You just happen to be born with this big brain, right?

00:26:14IQ is, like, 80% genetic by our late teens.

00:26:16So you just happen to be born with this big brain, and you're just monetizing it, too.

00:26:21What's the difference?

00:26:23Big brain, big boob.

00:26:24What's the difference, right?

00:26:27And you know that that argument is wrong.

00:26:30You feel that it's wrong, but feeling it's wrong isn't enough.

00:26:34That's just the start of the journey.

00:26:35So I get a sense of, like, well, that's kind of compelling.

00:26:37I can certainly see the surface logic, but it feels wrong.

00:26:40Now, again, just because it feels wrong doesn't mean that it is wrong, but that, to me, is an incentive to dig in and figure out why it's wrong.

00:26:52I mean, we all know rape, theft, assault, and murder, they're wrong.

00:26:56They're just wrong.

00:26:56This is an old Aristotelian argument.

00:26:58Aristotle said, look, if you've got a moral system that can be used to prove that murder is good, I really don't care what your logic is.

00:27:04You've gone wrong somewhere.

00:27:05And so, you know, rape, theft, assault, and murder, the four big horsemen of the evil apocalypse, we know that they're wrong.

00:27:13But why?

00:27:14But why?

00:27:15Why are they wrong?

00:27:17And it can't be God, because that's an argument from authority, at least not philosophically.

00:27:20Theologically, sure, but not philosophically.

00:27:22So, you know, close to 20 years ago, I sat down and I said, I'm not going to get back out from this table until I figured out why rape, theft, assault, and murder are wrong.

00:27:30And you can see the results, of course, essentialphilosophy.com, the last third, and the full book is Universally Preferable Behavior, a Rational Proof of Secular Ethics, which you should absolutely read or listen to.

00:27:44So, there's instincts, there's emotions, there's a sort of famous example of the physicist who came up with the structure of the carbon atom, had a dream about a snake eating its own tail, woke up, and then, you know, puzzled through it.

00:27:58So, that's all part of thinking, having debates, yes, but, yes, but.

00:28:02I debate probably, at least once a week, I debate with myself how much empathy I should have for the unthinking.

00:28:09It's a huge issue for me.

00:28:11I won't bore you with my machinations that way, but I have a debate like, well, they don't think, so we should have compassion.

00:28:19Yeah, but they're responsible for not thinking.

00:28:21Yeah, but there's a lot of propaganda.

00:28:23Yeah, but there's the internet.

00:28:24Yeah, but, you know, all of their social arrangements will probably be dissolved by them learning how to think.

00:28:30Yeah, but they value, everyone values those who go their own way and have integrity.

00:28:33Like, honestly, I am like a, one of these Newton machines or the pendulums that never end.

00:28:39I go back and forth with how much responsibility do I give to people who don't think.

00:28:47And the reason that's important for me, and I think it's important as a whole, the reason why that's important to me is bad times are coming for the unthinking.

00:28:59I mean, bad times are coming for most people, but bad times are definitely coming for the unthinking.

00:29:04And when bad times come for the unthinking, sorry, let me restart, reboot that sentence.

00:29:10When bad times come for the unthinking, the first thing they do is turn to moral, emotional manipulation.

00:29:18I'm a victim.

00:29:19Bad things happen.

00:29:19It's not my fault.

00:29:20I need help.

00:29:21Who's going to feed my kids?

00:29:22So, I need to know how open or closed my heart needs to be in order to survive.

00:29:28This is an old Anglo-Saxon instinct.

00:29:32Well, I've stored up enough food for the winter.

00:29:36And I told you, bro, you need to store up enough food for the winter.

00:29:41The guy two farms over, right?

00:29:44And he doesn't.

00:29:48And he comes to my door in mid-January.

00:29:51It's cold as a witch's tit out there.

00:29:54Ice puddles on the ground.

00:29:56The cows are shooting out iced milk from their udders.

00:30:03And we're all freezing.

00:30:08And he comes over and he's like, yo, Steph, my kids are starving.

00:30:14Like, I've put this off as long as possible.

00:30:16I've been out hunting every day.

00:30:17Look at my, you can count my ribs like a, like a xylophone.

00:30:20Bro, I mean, I'm begging you.

00:30:22I mean, I, I really did try and I listened to what you said.

00:30:25I really did try.

00:30:26My, my kids are, my kids are dying by, you know, and they get emotional and they're like,

00:30:31and they're like compassion and neighborliness.

00:30:33And I, I do it for you.

00:30:34And I look out for you and we've got to stick together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:37But I'm going to feed my kids, not yours, bro.

00:30:49And if he tries to break into the house to get the food that I've stored up for the winter for my family and extended family,

00:30:56I might have to put him down.

00:31:02The bad things are coming for the unthinking.

00:31:05I mean, in their personal life, it's going to happen anyway, because the unthinking stagger from one disaster to another while constantly blaming others.

00:31:12The bad times are coming for the unthinking.

00:31:16The government's going to run out of money.

00:31:18Government's coming, mathematically, that which cannot continue will not continue.

00:31:24The government's going to run out of money.

00:31:26Bad times are coming for the unthinking.

00:31:27And they're just going to cry and scream and threaten and manipulate and, and beg and plead and bully and appeal to emotion and reason and, and appeal to virtue and morality.

00:31:38And they're just going to try absolutely everything.

00:31:41And I debate with myself, how much compassion should I have for the unthinking?

00:31:50Well, if it's not their fault, they don't think we should have endless compassion, but I don't know the degree to which it is people's thoughts.

00:31:55So there's an example just for me of a debate that I have.

00:32:00And I guess like, like, like a lot of young people these days, I go both ways.

00:32:05So, all right.

00:32:11All right.

00:32:11So let's see here is high neuroticism downstream from an inner monologue gone awry.

00:32:18So inner monologues are there to protect you from non immediate dangers, right?

00:32:24Anyway, if you're walking in the woods, and you start getting chased by a bear.

00:32:29You don't have much of an inner monologue, you just have straight up fight or flight, right?

00:32:36But in terms of storing up enough food for the winter.

00:32:41Well, that's a non obvious danger.

00:32:44In other words, by the time you're out of food, it's too late to get more, right?

00:32:50So if you run out of food in January or February, and you're not going to be able to get any food till the spring, it's too late.

00:32:57So inner monologues or what you call neuroticism is there to keep you from non obvious dangers, right?

00:33:08There's this old story, probably true, could not might not be true.

00:33:12But there's this old story, which is a guy says to his girlfriend, she wants to go to a party in a really sketchy part of town, right?

00:33:21And the guy says to her, don't go, man, this is a bad, bad idea.

00:33:24Do not go do not.

00:33:25It's not not a safe place to be.

00:33:27And she's like, no, no, no, my friend's going with me.

00:33:29I'm going to be fine.

00:33:30It's really cool.

00:33:31They have a great DJ.

00:33:32I'm going to this bad party and someone's house in a sketchy part of town.

00:33:35And you can't tell me otherwise.

00:33:38You're just so controlling and insecure, right?

00:33:40And, and the guy's like, hey, you know, I'm, you can go.

00:33:44You can go.

00:33:46But if you go, if you go, I'm, I'm breaking up with you.

00:33:50Because if you won't listen to things that I know as a man, you need to do in order to stay safe.

00:33:55If you take these kinds of risks without listening to me, that's fine.

00:33:58You can do these kinds of risks, but I'm not going to be your boyfriend, right?

00:34:02And she went and she was assaulted and she calls him at three in the morning.

00:34:10And he's like, yeah, we're, we're, we're broken up.

00:34:16And of course, everyone's like, you can't break up with her now.

00:34:18She just got assaulted.

00:34:19And he's like, but I have.

00:34:21How much?

00:34:25Empathy do we have for people who don't listen?

00:34:27So he was able to project his mind forward into a party and say, this is a bad idea.

00:34:33This is, this is, this is dangerous, right?

00:34:35In the same way, you've got to project your mind forward to non-obvious dangers, non-obvious

00:34:40dangers, right?

00:34:41And this is the difference between people who care about the national debt and unfunded liabilities

00:34:46and people who don't.

00:34:48The national debt and unfunded liabilities are a non-obvious, like debt as a whole is a non-obvious

00:34:53danger.

00:34:53It's a drug gives you fun stuff in the here and now at the cost of a lot of stuff later.

00:35:00So inner dialogues are there to alert you to non-obvious dangers.

00:35:06So, uh, and now, um, if you, if you don't let or encourage, really, if you don't let or

00:35:16encourage the inner voices to keep you safe, then they will not shut up in general, right?

00:35:25Um, okay.

00:35:27Now let's see here.

00:35:34Boom, boom.

00:35:36Boom, boom.

00:35:41I have, I knew a godmother who was a psych nurse, absolutely dreadful personal life.

00:35:45Oh, don't get me started on nurses.

00:35:50I think that's the highest cheating profession.

00:35:58All right.

00:35:58My dad was exactly like that.

00:36:00Oh, nicer to strangers than his own family.

00:36:02Didn't speak with him the last 15 years of his life.

00:36:04He pretended that we still did.

00:36:05Oh yeah.

00:36:06That's very sad.

00:36:08That's very sad.

00:36:11I'm glad this is recorded.

00:36:13Yeah, me too.

00:36:15Me too.

00:36:18Uh, God bless your daughter.

00:36:20Well, thank you.

00:36:20I really, really appreciate that.

00:36:21Can you fight RFH live on pay-per-view?

00:36:28Oh, is that the, is that the, um, the feminist?

00:36:34I'm, I don't do head blows.

00:36:37I have to protect the brain.

00:36:38Not the face.

00:36:39It's my living.

00:36:42All right.

00:36:42Let's see here.

00:36:45Somebody says, I found giving it to God helps temper overactive inner monologue.

00:36:48Once I'm at the end of control of a situation, gratitude is a form of

00:36:51O-face, perhaps.

00:36:53Maybe my O-face is generally grateful.

00:36:57All right.

00:36:58My internal monologue gets stuck in a loop.

00:37:00Sometimes I will repeatedly tell myself this isn't right until I decide what I

00:37:04need to do about it.

00:37:06Yeah.

00:37:06In general, I think I find repetitive internal voices.

00:37:10I mean, I call it the Miko system, which is that I'm not like an individual.

00:37:13I'm a collection of my thoughts, other people's thoughts, especially when you're

00:37:17sort of a public person debating ideas with the world.

00:37:22But I am composed of a lot of the people that I've met, a lot of people that I've

00:37:29read.

00:37:29I've got my inner Socrates.

00:37:31I've got my inner mother.

00:37:32I've got my inner father, which is more about absence and the judgment of absence

00:37:36because I grew up without a father.

00:37:38But I have, it's called the Miko system.

00:37:40I'm not just I, like one monolithic I.

00:37:43There's a lot of people at the table.

00:37:44And there should be because we have a lot of different perspectives, right?

00:37:48It's better to be a gardener in wartime.

00:37:51No, it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in wartime.

00:37:55So we have a lot of different aspects, right?

00:37:57We speak in different ways to different people.

00:37:59We have a professional face.

00:38:00We have a personal face.

00:38:02We have a friend face and so on, right?

00:38:05We have jokiness and seriousness and goofiness and sorrow and all of that.

00:38:10So we have a lot of different aspects.

00:38:11And all of those different aspects of our personality need to combine to keep us safe

00:38:14and bring us to the truth.

00:38:15All right.

00:38:21How do people maintain Christian values or even UPB without being prey to weaponized empathy?

00:38:27So weaponized empathy is when people demand that you feel for them and thus give them resources.

00:38:34And if you don't, you're a cold-hearted, selfish, unempathetic person.

00:38:37So the reason we do that is not out of empathy, but out of fear.

00:38:41So the reason that we give to the poor, and I don't mean voluntarily.

00:38:47I mean like through the welfare state, through sort of coerced redistribution.

00:38:51The reason we do that is because if we don't, at this point anyway, maybe you could argue in the 60s or 70s,

00:38:57but now the reason we keep giving to the poor is that the poor will riot if we don't, right?

00:39:03So it's just easier for politicians to keep giving to the poor because they'll riot.

00:39:10And if we don't, hey, remember the whole peace dividend, the military-industrial complex works the same way.

00:39:17If we have genuine peace, then we don't pay the warmongers.

00:39:21And the warmongers want to keep provoking and promoting war so that they keep getting paid.

00:39:26So weaponized empathy is, you know, if there's some relative you don't particularly like,

00:39:34and they demand that you come over for their birthday or whatever, and you don't really want to go,

00:39:39you say, oh, well, I'll be nice and I'll go.

00:39:41It's like, well, no, the reason you don't want to go is because, or the reason why you go is because you don't want that person

00:39:46to start being mean to you or spreading lies about you or accusing you of being cold-hearted and unempathetic

00:39:54and attacking you, attacking you.

00:39:59So most charity is a bribe to keep people from abusing you.

00:40:04Not all, but most charity is a bribe to keep people from abusing you.

00:40:08So it's not weaponized empathy.

00:40:10It's a payoff to prevent an attack.

00:40:15Like, you know, if you have a little shop in Sicily and the Goomba comes by and says,

00:40:22it's a nice little shop you got here.

00:40:23It'd be a real shame if something happened to it.

00:40:25You know, there's been a lot of fires in the neighborhood lately, but don't worry.

00:40:28We can make sure that fire doesn't happen to you if you just pay us a thousand bucks a month.

00:40:31It's nothing.

00:40:32It's less than your fire insurance, right?

00:40:33So whatever, right?

00:40:35So you don't give the Goomba the money because you want to make sure his kids get his braces.

00:40:42So you give the guy money so that your shop doesn't get burned down.

00:40:49And we are generous, quote, generous a lot of times because we don't want our relationships,

00:40:55our reputations to get burned down.

00:40:56We don't want the unpleasant process of somebody yelling at us or calling us a bad person.

00:41:02And so we fundamentally pay the money so we don't see the ugliness in those around us.

00:41:07I'm not talking all generosity and so on,

00:41:09but we pay so that they continue to pretend to be nice so we don't see what they're really like.

00:41:18Because if we see what they're really like, we might have some difficult decisions to make, right?

00:41:22All right.

00:41:29Let me get that.

00:41:31Let me get that.

00:41:33Live with Steph is the best.

00:41:34Thank you, Steph.

00:41:35Thank you, Hanu.

00:41:36I appreciate that.

00:41:39I appreciate that.

00:41:41Son of Sam heard voices from the neighbor's dog.

00:41:44Oh, that's rough.

00:41:50Oh, dear.

00:41:51Let's see here.

00:41:52All right.

00:42:01Let me get to comments over here on locals and X.

00:42:11All right.

00:42:16Another two cents.

00:42:17Yeah, I mean, you can keep posting.

00:42:18I'm not going to read any of your stuff.

00:42:20It's all just so girly.

00:42:22All right.

00:42:26Yeah, I know.

00:42:27I've also posted like one in 20 people you meet has no conscience.

00:42:31They can just do whatever they want and never feel bad about it.

00:42:33And it's important to be aware of that.

00:42:36All right.

00:42:36Sepanta.

00:42:37Nice to see you.

00:42:39Hey, Steph.

00:42:39I've seen a lot of men push back on the idea of being vulnerable around women and how women are just emotional, hysterical, and incapable of being logical or level-headed.

00:42:47They can't be blah, blah, blah.

00:42:48Well, this is – oh, my gosh.

00:42:56Permission to rant.

00:42:59Oh, I've been back on Twitter, what, less than two weeks?

00:43:04Twelve days, something like that.

00:43:05Oh, I forgot because I've been around you lovely, wonderful, warm, rational people.

00:43:10And, of course, there's a lot of lovely, warm, rational people out there on the Twitter spaces.

00:43:14But let me tell you.

00:43:19People always forget to add that I know.

00:43:26Drives me crazy.

00:43:27Men won't commit.

00:43:33No.

00:43:34The men that you know won't commit.

00:43:38Women are irrational.

00:43:39No.

00:43:40No.

00:43:41The women that you know are irrational.

00:43:47Oh.

00:43:47It's a bit maddening that people are so untrained and unaware of basic epistemology or the study of knowledge that they think that their personal experience translates to the universal.

00:44:07Well, no one I know speaks Japanese.

00:44:09Therefore, Japanese doesn't exist.

00:44:11It's like –

00:44:12Oh, my gosh.

00:44:17Women exploit men for resources.

00:44:23Like, no.

00:44:23No.

00:44:25The women you know.

00:44:28But there's a whole lot of layers in this world.

00:44:32And the fact that you choose to live in a sewer doesn't mean the whole world stinks of shit.

00:44:41You can change your layers.

00:44:42You can change your class.

00:44:44You can change your companionship.

00:44:45You can change the moral quality of the people who are around you.

00:44:49But in order to have people with higher standards around you, you have to have higher standards for yourself.

00:44:57If you choose, and I say this with sympathy.

00:45:03Because we're born in the underworld, and some people are born in the above world, the upper world.

00:45:12So if you're born in the underworld, like in the world of people who just project and blame and attack and have trashy opinions and make trashy decisions and so on.

00:45:23And if you're born there, like I have a lot of sympathy, if it's any consolation, I was born there too.

00:45:31But my heavenly word above, you do not have to stay there.

00:45:37Oh, men just cheat.

00:45:38No, no.

00:45:40No.

00:45:40The men you date, cheat.

00:45:44The men you choose to have sex with, cheat.

00:45:48Not men.

00:45:50And the reason I keep pushing back on this, of course, is because if women think, well, men just cheat.

00:45:56They just ghost you.

00:45:57They just use you for sex.

00:45:58It's like, no, the men that you choose to have sex with, that's the filter.

00:46:04What you choose, who you choose to let into your body, into your heart, and into your life.

00:46:09Not everyone.

00:46:10But if you think it's everyone, you can't escape.

00:46:15So the people who want to exploit you for sex, ladies, will always tell you that there's a patriarchy and men just exploit women so that you never raise your standards and get out and get away from them.

00:46:28People are trapped far more by their beliefs than their circumstances, as adults, as children.

00:46:42So Sepanto goes on to say, we're critiquing somebody else or some other group.

00:46:48These men genuinely think women are like children.

00:46:52Okay.

00:46:52Let's say, of course, there are men like children.

00:46:54There are women like children.

00:46:55Women are like children.

00:46:56No.

00:46:57The women you know.

00:46:58I like children, not women as a whole.

00:47:05Yeah.

00:47:07You are a hardcore 12-year-old staff.

00:47:09Crime and punishment at 12 is insane.

00:47:11Yeah.

00:47:11It was a friend of mine.

00:47:13Friend later died.

00:47:14It was a friend of mine, single mother, dated a baker up north.

00:47:18He's the guy who taught me about X Day Fresh.

00:47:21I said, well, what do you do with the old loaves of bread?

00:47:24Oh, nobody buys them.

00:47:25We just put them out and say, one day fresh, because day old, right?

00:47:32Well, what if it's two days?

00:47:32That's two day fresh.

00:47:33What if it's three days?

00:47:34It's three day fresh.

00:47:35I don't know why I remember that, but I do.

00:47:37So he just, in a strange twist or quirk of fate, this guy who ran a bakery in northern Ontario almost 50 years ago had a copy of Crime and Punishment.

00:47:50I picked it up, and I read it.

00:47:58Somebody, Obeamega says, I started reading about astronomy and dinosaurs in single digits.

00:48:03By 12, I was reading Greek mythology, relativity, and quantum mechanics, popular science books by my teens.

00:48:09Star Trek Foundation Universe by Asimov.

00:48:11Mid to late teens, I discovered Douglas Adams.

00:48:13I could never get into Asimov.

00:48:14And my God, if you ever want to read something absolutely horrifyingly appalling.

00:48:18Thank you for your tip, David.

00:48:20I appreciate that.

00:48:21Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

00:48:24Or you can tip on Locals or on Rumble.

00:48:27I really do appreciate that.

00:48:28I never got into Isaac Asimov.

00:48:30And boy, if you read about his son and the relationship of the prosecutor to the Russia collusion conspiracy host, it's absolutely amazing.

00:48:39I shared the Spanish edition of Peaceful Parenting with two parents of newborns.

00:48:43Thank you very much.

00:48:45Thank you very much.

00:48:48I have been asked.

00:48:51Oh, that's another two cents.

00:48:52Never mind.

00:48:53Okay.

00:48:54Who would handle isolation better?

00:48:56A person with inner voices or a person without inner voices?

00:48:58I don't know.

00:48:59I mean, we don't handle isolation well at all.

00:49:01We're social animals, right?

00:49:02So I'm sure you know.

00:49:04But human beings, when ostracized and attacked, the same brain patterns light up as if they're being directly tortured, right?

00:49:15Because we can't survive alone.

00:49:16Should non-thinkers be allowed to vote?

00:49:31How about a free society where the only thing you vote for is your dollars and your sperm?

00:49:37All right.

00:49:48That was...

00:49:49Did I get everything wrong?

00:49:50That was Kekule, who came up with the structure of the benzene molecule, which is cyclic, a ring structure.

00:49:55Did I get that completely wrong?

00:49:56Okay.

00:49:57I appreciate that.

00:49:58If you're wrong, then...

00:50:01Sorry.

00:50:02If I'm wrong, not if you're wrong.

00:50:03If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate the correction.

00:50:05Thank you very much.

00:50:10All right.

00:50:10I'm glad to see him on Rumble.

00:50:11I haven't really followed Steph since his YouTube ban.

00:50:14You know, that's why they banned you, right?

00:50:15They banned you because you wouldn't follow me.

00:50:17So you're really more responsible for my banning than that, right?

00:50:20That wouldn't happen otherwise.

00:50:21If banning resulted in a sort of Streisand effect where I got more followers because people were like,

00:50:26Well, that's outrageous.

00:50:27He's a good guy telling the truth.

00:50:28I'm going to follow him to new platforms, right?

00:50:31Thank you, Tyreek, for the tip.

00:50:33Well, you're the reason why I got banned.

00:50:37I mean, I'd just be blunt with you.

00:50:40Everyone who didn't follow me to a new platform is exactly why I got banned because it works, right?

00:50:45And you're the ones who make it work.

00:50:46And I'm not mad.

00:50:48I'm just sort of pointing out a basic fact that you're the reason.

00:50:51So they know, right?

00:50:52So they started with Andrew Anglin, a couple other people, right?

00:50:55So they say, Oh, people don't follow.

00:50:56Okay, well, banning works.

00:50:57So I'll just ban people.

00:51:00We'll just ban people we don't like or who interfere with our exercise of power or our corrupt goals.

00:51:05And everyone who didn't follow me to a new website, you're the reason I got banned.

00:51:12Again, I'm not blaming you.

00:51:13I'm just saying that this is the causality, right?

00:51:17And I just say that because every moral decision you make affects the universe.

00:51:20Every moral decision you make or avoid affects the universe.

00:51:23All right.

00:51:30What do you think is the cause for the delay between feeling something someone has said feels wrong and understanding why it was wrong?

00:51:38Oh, because we feel that our rulers and our masters are just like us, but shrouded in lies.

00:51:49We feel that.

00:51:50The king is just a guy.

00:51:51You see the king trip down the stairs.

00:51:53He's just a guy.

00:51:53But if you say that, you probably get killed.

00:51:58So suppressing things that feel wrong is a basic survival mechanism.

00:52:05So I'm not doing politics.

00:52:11I'm not doing the politics.

00:52:15Are dental hygienists the same as nurses?

00:52:18I don't think so.

00:52:19I don't think so.

00:52:24All right.

00:52:25Let me just scroll down here.

00:52:27Thank you, of course, for these great questions.

00:52:30Yeah, it wasn't like I was banished to a high mountain that you had to pull locks through the Arctic in order to train to climb.

00:52:40I was literally one website over.

00:52:41No, it is a bridge too far to get philosophy.

00:52:45I must go one website over.

00:52:49I mean, it's impossible.

00:52:52Jesus got nailed to a cross.

00:52:54Socrates was forced to drink hemlock.

00:52:56Galileo was tortured, but I can't go one website over in pursuit of the truth.

00:53:00I mean, honestly, again, it was it was fine for me because I got to really focus on art and philosophy, core philosophy and get off politics.

00:53:11So I don't have any I don't have any resentment towards it.

00:53:14I had a great couple of years, five years.

00:53:16I had a great five years being de-platformed.

00:53:18Plus, of course, I got to spend more time with my daughter, which was great.

00:53:22And so, no, it was it was great.

00:53:25But just just so you know, if you didn't follow me to a new platform, that's why I got de-platformed.

00:53:32You are personally responsible for that process.

00:53:36I'm not saying just you, but right.

00:53:39All right.

00:53:39Let's see here.

00:53:54Rational women are in obvious places.

00:53:56Just got to not be a melon head about it.

00:53:58Well, the other thing, too, is that rational women are also looking for rational men and not finding them.

00:54:04Right.

00:54:05And, of course, people universalize the corruption of those around them and call it human nature so that they don't have to differentiate the people around them into bad people.

00:54:16Right.

00:54:17Nobody calls a human being short because they're not 20 feet tall.

00:54:20Right.

00:54:21So you just have to.

00:54:23In order to stay in a corrupt situation and not confront evildoers or escape them, you just have to define human nature as somehow corrupt or foolish, like female nature or male nature.

00:54:32And then you don't have to change anything.

00:54:34Right.

00:54:34Thanks, I have a daughter, too.

00:54:39That means a lot to me.

00:54:40I'm glad to help.

00:54:42Are all categories intellectually lazy?

00:54:44No.

00:54:45No.

00:54:45Some categories are great.

00:54:46Good and evil.

00:54:47True and falsehood.

00:54:48Right and wrong.

00:54:49Accurate, inaccurate.

00:54:49Valid, invalid.

00:54:50These categories are very good.

00:54:52But a lot of them are justifications for avoiding the confrontation of corruption.

00:54:57And I'm not blaming people for that.

00:54:59I mean, the fact that we can escape evildoers is ridiculously new in human history.

00:55:05Right.

00:55:05We couldn't do it before.

00:55:07You're stuck in some tribe in the middle of nowhere.

00:55:09I've got a whole novel about this called Just Poor, about a genius girl born into a or adopted into a remote and fairly mindless farming community in the 18th century in England.

00:55:21And most times we couldn't get away.

00:55:28Couldn't get away.

00:55:30So we just normalized what was around us so we wouldn't go mad.

00:55:33So I understand why people do that.

00:55:35But we can do it now.

00:55:36Right.

00:55:41What do you think of the Elon takeover of X?

00:55:43Magnificent.

00:55:44Fantastic.

00:55:44The man is a hero.

00:55:45Absolute hero.

00:55:47What is the best way to teach babies to read?

00:55:50I don't know, obviously, about the best way.

00:55:52What I did with my daughter when she was very young is I hooked up a computer to the television and I had a keyboard and I taught her the phonetic alphabet.

00:56:03Right.

00:56:03So, you know, A, B, C, D, E is not super helpful when you're teaching kids how to read.

00:56:09What you want to teach them is A, B, K, F, G, H, L, M, N.

00:56:14Right.

00:56:14You want to teach them how the letters sound in words.

00:56:18Right.

00:56:18So if you teach the kid C, A, T, it's hard to assemble that into cat.

00:56:24Right.

00:56:24But if you teach the kid C, A, T, right, the letter C stands for C, not the letter C.

00:56:31Right.

00:56:31And the letter A is A and the letter T is C.

00:56:33So if you say C, A, T, right, and then when she sees C, A, T, she can say C, A, T, cat.

00:56:39Right.

00:56:39As opposed to if you just say C, A, T, they have to translate that into C, A, T, which is not hugely helpful in my humble opinion.

00:56:47So I would say that I put the letters up on the screen and asked her to sound out the letters and she learned.

00:56:59I mean, she had a bit of upset about it.

00:57:01I'll be honest with you.

00:57:01Right.

00:57:02Because it's frustrating.

00:57:03And I would say that that was the way that I did it.

00:57:07I don't know if it's the right way for every kid, but it worked very well for for me.

00:57:11I mean, she ended up writing entire movies.

00:57:13All right.

00:57:16I was born into the underworld, says Kerry.

00:57:21All my exes were basically the same man.

00:57:23I finally healed and chose a great man.

00:57:25That is wonderful.

00:57:27Congratulations.

00:57:28Congratulations.

00:57:29I appreciate that.

00:57:34Since I have you here, what do you think is the most important truth about the modern world that people are afraid to acknowledge?

00:57:39Oh, the effects of child abuse on on the world as a whole.

00:57:44For sure.

00:57:45For sure.

00:57:46I just upvoted this video.

00:57:50I appreciate that.

00:57:53All right.

00:57:57I mean, yeah.

00:57:58So, I mean, they're talking about donations here.

00:58:00But, I mean, obviously, if you're new, enjoy, absorb.

00:58:04At some point, it just becomes a basic integrity issue.

00:58:06I mean, everything costs money.

00:58:08What I do costs money.

00:58:10And, I mean, look at the set I built.

00:58:12Anyway, so everything I do costs money.

00:58:15And, of course, the 20 years of philosophy, which were very expensive to me, both financially, time-wise, and sometimes professionally.

00:58:23The 20 years of philosophy I did before the public 20 years I've been doing for the last 20 years was expensive.

00:58:29And, at some point, you need to do the honorable thing and return value for value.

00:58:35If what I do provides value to you, and I'm asking you for a return of value, then you should return value for value.

00:58:42Honestly, just think of how nice it is to not have commercials.

00:58:45I mean, when I'm talking about, like, a deep issue with someone crying about their childhood, or we're talking about some really important moral or philosophical issue, or, you know, I had a pretty ferocious debate about abortion with a feminist, which is available for subscribers at freedomain.locals.com or at subscribestar.com slash freedomain.

00:59:05Can you imagine a two-minute interruption to try and sell you coffee or gold or I don't know, whatever, right?

00:59:15So, the fact that you get uninterrupted, commercial-free philosophy shows is because people are funding it.

00:59:23So, you get a lot of benefit.

00:59:24If you've listened to a whole bunch of shows, you've had weeks of time returned to you by not having ads, right?

00:59:30You should pay for that, right?

00:59:32It's a way of showing empathy and reciprocity, right?

00:59:38Oh, you're providing me value, Steph.

00:59:40Well, I'm not a child, and you're not my parent, so I should return value for value, right?

00:59:44We don't ask children to return value for the toys and shelter we give them, right?

00:59:49But I'm not your parent, and you're not my child.

00:59:52And the way that you know that you're an adult and have empathy is you return value for value.

01:00:00Somebody says, I've never been worried about finding a virtuous woman.

01:00:03My worry has been not being a virtuous man.

01:00:06Yeah, for sure.

01:00:06For sure.

01:00:07When women, and it's not only women, that's true for men too, but when people complain about, let's just take an example.

01:00:19If women say, all men are cheaters, then what they're saying is, I don't want to pay the price of an honorable and honest man, which means being honorable and honest myself, right?

01:00:33If you don't buy something expensive, it's because you either don't have the money or you don't want to pay.

01:00:44And so if men say, oh, women are just greedy and exploitive children, that's because they don't want to pay the price demanded of by a virtuous woman, which is virtue.

01:00:58You're going to have to be strong, intelligent, have integrity, be honest, be direct, be strong, in order to get those qualities in another.

01:01:10Who you're with is a direct reflection of your own self-image and actions.

01:01:18And so when people complain about their partners, it's like a bird pecking at a mirror.

01:01:22You're just attacking yourself.

01:01:28It's like a guy who's just finished a statue saying, this is the shittiest, worst, ugliest statue in the known universe.

01:01:35Well, you're just criticizing yourself.

01:01:39And it's blindingly obvious to anybody with even a modicum of self-knowledge.

01:01:44But, yeah, it's really sad.

01:01:46I mean, so when people say, oh, all men are this or all women are that, some negative, some pejorative, it's like, okay, well, you're just telling me that you don't want to pay the price of being with good people, which is to be a good person yourself.

01:01:56I sympathize with that, but let's just call it what it is.

01:02:01Yes, we're going to have a donor-only section today.

01:02:03And it's going to start very soon.

01:02:06Oh, the background's set?

01:02:07Well, thanks.

01:02:08Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:02:10I love you, Steph.

01:02:11Been listening, donating, praying for you and family since 2015.

01:02:14Well, I appreciate that.

01:02:15I absolutely appreciate that.

01:02:16Thank you so much.

01:02:23Somebody says, I had a mind-blowing conversation today.

01:02:26I explained how the welfare state leads to poor people having more kids due to the incentive not to evaluate risk.

01:02:31The woman said it was immoral to stop the subsidies because doing so would be dictating how many children the poor could have, like eugenics.

01:02:37Oh, but taking resources away from non-poor people is eugenics, right?

01:02:41All right.

01:02:46Steph's show is the only one I feel bad for just consuming and not donating.

01:02:49Hollywood movies, not so much.

01:02:51Well, you know, there's a solution to that.

01:02:52FreeDomain.com slash donate.

01:02:53You'll feel better.

01:02:54Like, you'll feel better.

01:02:55Because it's a step towards reciprocity and adulthood.

01:02:59I will have dollars shortly.

01:03:00Hate that I can't do all the stuff I want to to support worthy causes.

01:03:02I got a DM from a woman, says someone, telling me that I'm a horrible human being for committing, for commenting or pointing out that it doesn't take more than three months to notice signs that someone is abusive.

01:03:17Three months?

01:03:19Three days?

01:03:20Three minutes?

01:03:20Everyone, I tell you, have this as a principle.

01:03:24Everyone tells you everything you need to know about them in the first 10 minutes.

01:03:28Everyone tells you everything you need to know about themselves in the first 10 minutes.

01:03:33I've yet to ever see an exception to this rule.

01:03:38Being virtuous does not automatically bring virtuous women into your life.

01:03:45Well, it's not a goddamn summoning ritual.

01:03:47Well, place four books of UBB in the corner and sit down and kneel and concentrate on the non-aggression principle and a goddess of reason.

01:04:00Jane Mansfield with the mind of Ayn Rand will appear before you in a big X of hyper-rationality.

01:04:08Oh, my gosh.

01:04:10So, here's, you know, I love you, man.

01:04:12Thank you for coming by.

01:04:12I really do.

01:04:13Like, this is not a nag, but if you want smart people around you, try not to state the blindingly freaking obvious.

01:04:21You know, you can't turn back time.

01:04:23Really?

01:04:26Well, you know, being virtuous doesn't automatically bring you a virtuous woman.

01:04:33Who the frack ever said that it did?

01:04:35Who would even think that?

01:04:36Resist the urge to state the blindingly obvious because it drives smart people away from you, like you're on fire.

01:04:45Well, no, then they'd be going to get her.

01:04:47Oh, gosh, I saw F1.

01:04:50I even paid a little extra for a rumble seat.

01:04:55Brad Pitt is like a caricature.

01:04:56He constantly plays characters with enormously traumatic parts who are just super cool and together.

01:05:02Anyway, yeah, just look.

01:05:05Whenever you have the urge to contribute something, and I do this with myself.

01:05:10I do this with myself all the time.

01:05:12It doesn't mean it's right.

01:05:13I'm just saying, right?

01:05:15So, whenever you have the urge to comment something, ask if it's coming from an emotional place of defensiveness.

01:05:22Oh, that was a response to the guy who said, I don't worry about finding a virtuous woman.

01:05:31I just worry about being virtuous.

01:05:33Yeah.

01:05:33Well, I mean, but nobody's going to think that being virtuous automatically summons you a virtuous woman.

01:05:38Of course, you still have to be out there in the world.

01:05:41All right.

01:05:41Sam says, I'm late to the show.

01:05:43What is your take on X after a week or so?

01:05:45It's fun.

01:05:46It's fun.

01:05:47I won't say it's not a tiny bit addictive.

01:05:48It's also fascinating for me to see what happens when I'm not being viciously suppressed by bad people.

01:05:57All right.

01:06:01All right.

01:06:02Let's see here.

01:06:04Whole world reading relies on memorization.

01:06:06No, whole world reading is terrible.

01:06:08It's terrible.

01:06:09And it's anti-conceptual.

01:06:10And I think it cripples kids as a whole.

01:06:14All right.

01:06:15Maybe most people liked you as a political culture warrior.

01:06:18So when you stopped doing politics, they stopped watching.

01:06:24See, this is exactly what I'm talking about as far as not stating the blindingly obvious.

01:06:34Yeah.

01:06:35Yeah.

01:06:38Yeah.

01:06:38The deplatforming happened while I was still doing politics.

01:06:40So the idea that, well, people didn't follow you over because you weren't doing politics.

01:06:45It's not true.

01:06:46Not true.

01:06:48I mean, it's just the idea that this never would have crossed Steph's mind.

01:06:54You know, if you want to be around smart people, you have to assume that they're smart, which means don't state the blindingly obvious.

01:07:02All right.

01:07:02I don't usually down talk my husband to people because that paints him in a bad light to people who don't necessarily know him.

01:07:11What do you mean you don't usually down talk?

01:07:14What are you talking about?

01:07:16When would you ever down talk your husband?

01:07:19I mean, I know women do this like a stitch and bitch or a hen party or whatever.

01:07:22Right.

01:07:22The women are like, oh, my husband did this and he never does that and toilet seat and he never laces the toilet paper and he doesn't do the dishes right and he doesn't stack the dishwasher.

01:07:32Right.

01:07:35My God.

01:07:38How absolutely ridiculous it is to do that.

01:07:46How absolutely ridiculous it is to do that.

01:07:52Why would you complain about something you voluntarily chose and voluntarily choose to stay with?

01:07:59Can you imagine me bitching about philosophy all the time?

01:08:03Or my wife or my daughter?

01:08:07My God.

01:08:09But what it is, is a signal.

01:08:11It's a signal to say, I don't want quality people around me.

01:08:14Because if you have quality people around you and you are complaining about your spouse, quality people, I don't spend time around people who complain about their spouse.

01:08:32Like the moment I hear it, I'm out.

01:08:34I'm out.

01:08:34I just, I will not take another step towards that person.

01:08:36And all the people in my life, I mean, almost all of them are married and all of them love their spouses and sing their praises.

01:08:43Why would I want to be around somebody who complains about their own voluntary choices as if they were inflicted on them?

01:08:50That's just depressing.

01:08:52So.

01:08:52All right.

01:08:53So we're going to move.

01:08:54Move on over.

01:08:57Moving on up to the east side.

01:08:59So we are going to freedomain.locals.com.