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  • 6/26/2025
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00:00We're building up that enthusiasm and excitement for football.
00:04Donnie has basically had the countdown going the final few days of June.
00:08Next week is July.
00:10An NFL game will be played, albeit preseason, with training camp on the horizon.
00:16And collegiately, for the guys who will be in the NFL draft next year,
00:20fall camp and media day starting in just a few weeks.
00:24Early odds, Zeno, for the 2026 NFL draft, number one overall selection.
00:30Arch Manning, the quarterback for Texas, is that slight favorite at plus 230.
00:35Garrett Nussmeyer, the quarterback at LSU, a plus 360 price, second best.
00:40Drew Aller from Penn State, Lenora Sellers from South Carolina,
00:44tied for the third best price at 5-1.
00:46And Cade Klubnick, the signal caller once again at Clemson, a 9-1 price.
00:51Zeno, let's fast forward to the end of April 2026.
00:55Who's the first guy walking across the stage to greet Roger Goodell?
01:01Well, it's most likely going to be Arch Manning.
01:04I mean, whether, you know, he has a season that warrants Heisman consideration,
01:09whether he has a season that, you know, leads Texas into the college football playoff
01:14and the national championship are different conversations.
01:17By all accounts, Arch Manning is the next coming of Eli Manning,
01:22who was the next coming of Peyton Manning.
01:24So it all stands to reason that it's all in the family here.
01:27But I would be hard-pressed to believe that Arch Manning, you know,
01:33won't be the number one overall pick.
01:35The only thing I think that would delay him being the number one overall pick
01:38is if he decides, guess what?
01:39Going back to college for another year, right?
01:41Like, that's the only thing that takes it off the board at this point in time.
01:45If he lives up to the billing, and again, it's hard to see that he won't,
01:50even though we have a very limited sample size of what we've seen from him
01:53actually playing so far.
01:55By all accounts, most of these NFL scouts and GMs and the people who they talk to,
02:00who odds makers talk to, to set these kind of lines,
02:02are telling you that Arch Manning is going to be the prohibitive number one guy.
02:06We take a look at that odds market here, and Arch Manning does have the success.
02:10But there was a tweet that I saw just a few short days ago here
02:13from Brett McMurphy from the old ball coach, Mark.
02:16And I'm going to read this.
02:17Quote, most people picking Texas to win the SEC.
02:20They've got Arch Manning already winning the Heisman too.
02:23My question is, if he was this good,
02:25how come they let Quinn Ewers play all the time last year?
02:28And he was a seventh-round pick, end quote.
02:31How do we get that scuttle, bud?
02:33Because I like to believe in this as well, what ball coach is saying.
02:36How can you sell me on Arch Manning?
02:37This was always the plan, regardless if he was better than Ewers
02:41and could have won a championship.
02:42But we didn't want him to play yet because it's better for Arch Manning
02:46and his career heading into the pros here.
02:48How do we determine what we're getting out of Arch Manning?
02:50And if that statement from ball coach is in the realm of being truthful.
02:54It's not in the realm of being truthful.
02:56And he should know better.
02:57Look.
02:57Ah, come on now.
02:58I covered a team here in the Georgia Bulldog who had some guy named Justin Fields
03:07in the waiting, who ended up being the number four overall draft pick in the NFL draft.
03:12And he sat behind – do we remember who, Ben?
03:16Do you remember his name?
03:17It was Jacob.
03:18Jake Fromm.
03:19Jake Fromm, right.
03:20Who ended up being the fifth-round draft.
03:23Was it?
03:24No, it was Eason and Fromm, not Fromm and Eason.
03:26I was getting confused.
03:27But anyway, point simply being – and oh, by the way,
03:29Jake Fromm took Georgia to the national title game, right?
03:33Like, so coaches want stability.
03:38They want known circumstances to go out and win football games.
03:42In that world, okay, Jake Fromm and Quinn Ewers were known commodities for their coaches
03:47and their coaching staff.
03:49To change things meant you would have had to change certain things about the offense.
03:52You would have had to tweak certain things.
03:54You would have had to try and make things more amenable to a particular quarterback skill set.
03:59That's the reason why Quinn Ewers stayed.
04:00And it worked out because Texas went to the final four of the college football playoff, right?
04:05Like, so it was the smart move from that standpoint for them to stay with Quinn Ewers
04:11and wait until it happens.
04:13Justin Fields decides to transfer.
04:14He ends up the number four overall pick.
04:16Ohio State also ends up in the national championship game.
04:18I mean, you know, all these things – was it the semifinal?
04:22Whatever it was, I can't remember.
04:23You get the point.
04:24All these things happened for a reason.
04:26But just because Quinn Ewers started to have no impact on what Arch Manning is
04:30and what Texas will do this year.
04:32I think we can agree or disagree with Steve Sarkeesian's choice toward the tail end of the year
04:37when Quinn Ewers was clearly not healthy given that abdomen strain to continue putting Quinn out there.
04:43But because of what Ewers meant to the program, to the city of Austin and everything that he was
04:49living up to his dramatic billing, taking over the reins for the burnt orange,
04:53it was not a surprise.
04:55Donnie and I have gotten mad at each other for that very idea.
04:59Listen, you want to question why Quinn Ewers was out there in front of Arch, all good.
05:04But the idea that Arch Manning is going to stink because he was behind a guy that ended up being a seventh-round pick,
05:10that's not exactly the correlation.
05:12I do take a small bit of solace, I believe, in you and Donnie often seeing eye-to-eye and making me angry.
05:19Donnie expecting you to back him up.
05:21But you're on my side, Zeno.
05:23Huge win right there.
05:25He's just three clicks off.
05:26He's three clicks off right now.
05:27He's close, though.
05:28Mark's close.
05:31All right.
05:33Let's get to the current landscape of the National Football League
05:37and a veteran quarterback who we have known for a very long time.
05:41Zeno, I'm not sure we've gotten your exact reaction or thoughts on this.
05:45Maybe we have.
05:46We've spent so much time discussing Aaron Rodgers.
05:49It kind of all gets lost in the same conversation.
05:52Aaron Rodgers in that quarterback room with the Pittsburgh Steelers,
05:56saying earlier this week on the Pat McAfee Show, formerly of the Sports Grid Network,
06:01that this is probably it.
06:03He only signed a one-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers,
06:06basically meaning this 2025 campaign is his retirement tour.
06:12So, Zeno, how is that going to look individually for Aaron Rodgers?
06:15What is that going to look like for the Pittsburgh Steelers?
06:19You know me.
06:20I don't mind sitting on an island by myself,
06:22so I'm not afraid to sit here and say that I think it ends up in a playoff berth
06:25and possibly a playoff win for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
06:29Aaron Rodgers wasn't the problem with the Jets.
06:32Objectively, if you look at his numbers and the way he played,
06:35that was not the problem.
06:36Aaron Rodgers can still play football.
06:39Now, for the first time in the last two years,
06:41he finally has a competent offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith.
06:43He's got weapons galore all around him,
06:45not that he didn't with New York because he did.
06:47And he actually has a defense and a coach that brings stability
06:51and a certain amount of calm in everything that goes on here.
06:56When Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers decided to get together
06:59to choose one another to make this thing work,
07:01we all knew this was going to end up being a situation
07:04where it was going to be in his best interest.
07:07I think that, again, Arthur Smith being the coordinator that he is,
07:10and I have a very high affinity for him.
07:11Some people tell me it's too high, but nonetheless,
07:14I think that he's a great offensive coordinator.
07:16I think he's a good offensive mind.
07:18I think it's exactly what Aaron Rodgers needs here.
07:20Mike Tomlin hasn't lost nine games in a football season,
07:23let me think, ever.
07:25So I'm not going to worry about the Pittsburgh Steelers
07:28being a bad team because of Aaron Rodgers.
07:31He's not a bad team.
07:33The question is, is how good of a team can they really be?
07:37Aaron Rodgers wasn't the problem with the Jets,
07:38and he won't be a problem for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
07:40Yeah, as I was going to say,
07:42I don't think he lowers the floor for Pittsburgh by any means.
07:45It's just a question of how he elevates the ceiling
07:47because the Steelers have made the playoffs
07:50with a rotating cast and crew at the quarterback spot
07:52four of the previous five years.
07:53But as you alluded to,
07:55which would actually be the hottest of that take,
07:57to win a playoff game,
07:58something the Steelers have not done since 2016.
08:02Zeno, what is a better bet?
08:03Aaron Rodgers to win the 2025 MVP award at 75-1,
08:07or Aaron Rodgers to win the presidency in 2028
08:11at 100-1, or 1,000-1.
08:15Presidency, yeah.
08:16Presidency is probably a better, probably better odds, yeah.
08:19Yeah.
08:20He's not winning the MVP.
08:22He's not winning the MVP.
08:23There's too many other bets.
08:24But he's winning the president.
08:28There's a chance.
08:29That's fine, God.

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