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President Trump And NATO Sec.-Gen. Mark Rutte Meet Publicly At 2025 NATO Summit
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6/25/2025
Earlier today, President Trump met with NATO Secretary General. Mark Rutte at the 2025 NATO Summit.
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They travel. They have better seats than I do.
00:05
What are you telling your time, Mr. about your goals for NATO and Article 5 today?
00:11
We're with them all the way. I mean, if you take a look at the numbers, we're with them,
00:15
and they're very big things to announce today. I don't know if you've taken the vote or you're
00:18
going to take the vote, but I've been asking them to go up to 5% for a number of years,
00:23
and they're going up to 5%, and that's a big, from 2%, and a lot of people didn't even pay
00:30
the 2%, so I think that's going to be very big news. NATO's going to become very strong
00:36
with us, and I appreciate doing it. Perhaps you want to talk about it?
00:40
Yeah, absolutely. Let me first, before we go to spending, I just want to recognize your
00:45
decisive action on Iran.
00:48
You are a man of strength, but you're also a man of peace, and the fact that you are now
00:53
also successful in getting this ceasefire done between Israel and Iran. I really want
00:58
to commend you for that. Thank you very much.
01:00
And I think this is important for the whole world. Then on spending, it's absolutely true.
01:05
I want to state here, without President Trump, this would not have happened. In three stages,
01:10
when you became president in 2016, 2017, you forced Europeans and Canadians to pay more.
01:17
At this moment, the result of that phase is one trillion extra aggregate defense spending
01:23
by the Canadians and the Europeans. Then came phase two, when you became president in January
01:27
of last year. Phase two is that all the countries, not yet on 2%, have now committed to the 2%.
01:33
This is the old goal from Wales in 2014. Seven were not on 2%. Some were saying somewhere
01:38
in the 2030s, now this year, all of them, including Canada, including Italy, including Belgium,
01:43
they have all now committed to the 2%. And now comes the big splash. Today, we will decide
01:50
to go to 5%. We have to keep ourselves safe from our adversaries, but also because it is
01:55
fair to equalize with the United States. With this 5%, the Europeans and the Canadians will
02:02
equalize their defense spending with the United States. So this is not about American taxpayers paying
02:08
more. This is about Europeans, Canadians paying more. And again, this would not have happened.
02:13
I'm really saying this here, and some people might criticize me, but then when I speak with
02:18
them, they all say, yes, you're right. This would not have happened if you would not have
02:22
been elected in 2016 and re-elected last year and back into office in January. So I want to thank you.
02:28
Well, thank you very much. It's a great victory for everybody, I think. And we will be equalized
02:33
very shortly, and that's the way it has to be. It's going to be a lot of money, too, a lot
02:37
of defense.
02:37
It's a trillion.
02:38
Yeah. And we have a great relationship, and we've had a great relationship from the beginning.
02:44
Highly respected man. And yeah, we appreciate you being here, too, everybody. We really do.
02:50
We have a tremendous group of people on my left and a tremendous group of people on my right.
02:54
They might be even better than my people. Let's have a fight. Let's figure it out. Anyway,
03:01
but we appreciate it. And we've had a tremendous relationship, Mark and I. And we've really
03:07
worked on this subject for a long time. When Biden was here, it just died. It just died
03:13
like everything else died. And now it's, you're going to take, I guess, a vote today, right?
03:18
Absolutely. Today we will decide unanimously to do this. That's my absolute conclusion.
03:22
So we can't talk about it until the vote's taken, because sometimes, you know, strange
03:28
things happen to us. But I think you're going to get it.
03:30
I'm not too worried.
03:31
I think you're going to do very well. Everyone's very happy about it. Go ahead. Yes.
03:34
President, how is the Iran-Israel ceasefire going, in your opinion?
03:38
I think very good. I think very good. Israel came back yesterday. I was so proud of them,
03:43
because they came back. You know, they went out because they felt there was a violation.
03:47
And technically they were right, but it just wouldn't have worked out very well.
03:52
And they brought the planes back. They had gone on to another journey because there was a little
03:57
bit of a violation. And I said, you got to get them back. And they came back and it was a great
04:02
thing. And it's going very well.
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