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00:01See you on the plane.
00:03The original planes?
00:05They travel.
00:06Most of them, yeah.
00:07They have better seats than I do.
00:09What are your goals for NATO and Article 5 today?
00:15We're with them all the way.
00:17I mean, if you take a look at the numbers, we're with them.
00:19And they're very big things to announce today.
00:21I don't know if you've taken the vote or you're going to take the vote,
00:24but I've been asking them to go up to 5 percent for a number of years,
00:28and they're going up to 5 percent.
00:30That's a big – from 2 percent.
00:33And a lot of people didn't even pay the 2 percent.
00:36So I think that's going to be very big news.
00:38NATO is going to become very strong with us, and I appreciate doing it.
00:43Perhaps you want to talk about it.
00:44Yeah, absolutely.
00:45Let me first, before we go to the spending,
00:47I just want to recognize your decisive action on Iran.
00:52You are a man of strength, but you're also a man of peace.
00:56And the fact that you are now also successful in getting this ceasefire done between Israel and Iran,
01:02I really want to commend you for that.
01:04Thank you very much.
01:05And I think this is important for the whole world.
01:07Then on spending, it's absolutely true.
01:09I want to state here, without President Trump, this would not have happened.
01:14In three stages.
01:15When you became President in 2016, 2017, you forced Europeans and Canadians to pay more.
01:21At this moment, the result of that phase is one trillion extra aggregate defense spending by the Canadians and the Europeans.
01:29Then came phase two, when you became President in January last year.
01:32Phase two is that all the countries, not yet on 2 percent, have now committed to the 2 percent.
01:37This is the old goal from Wales in 2014.
01:40Seven were not on 2 percent.
01:41Some were saying somewhere in the 2030s.
01:44Now this year, all of them, including Canada, including Italy, including Belgium, they have all now committed to the 2 percent.
01:50And now comes the big splash.
01:52Today, we will decide to go to 5 percent.
01:55We have to keep ourselves safe from our adversaries.
01:58But also because it is fair to equalize with the United States.
02:03With this 5 percent, the Europeans and the Canadians will equalize their defense spending with the United States.
02:10So this is not about American taxpayers paying more.
02:13This is about Europeans, Canadians paying more.
02:16And again, this would not have happened.
02:18I'm really saying this here.
02:19And some people might criticize me.
02:21But then when I speak with them, they all say, yes, you're right.
02:24This would not have happened if you would not have been elected in 2016 and re-elected last year and back into office in January.
02:31So I want to thank you.
02:32Well, thank you very much.
02:33It's a great victory for everybody, I think.
02:35And we will be equalized very shortly.
02:38And that's the way it has to be.
02:39It's going to be a lot of money too, a lot of defense.
02:42Trillions extra.
02:43Yeah.
02:44And we have a great relationship.
02:45And we've had a great relationship from the beginning.
02:48Highly respected man.
02:49And yeah, we appreciate you being here too, everybody.
02:53We really do.
02:54We have a tremendous group of people on my left and a tremendous group of people on my right.
02:58They might be even better than my people.
03:00I know.
03:01Let's have a fight.
03:03Let's figure it out.
03:05Anyway, but we appreciate it.
03:07And we've had a tremendous relationship, Mark and I.
03:10Absolutely.
03:11And we've really worked on this subject for a long time.
03:14And when Biden was here, it just died.
03:16It just died like everything else died.
03:19And now it's, you're going to take, I guess, a vote today, right?
03:22Absolutely.
03:23Today we will decide unanimously to do this.
03:25That's my absolute conviction.
03:27So we can't talk about it until the vote's taken because sometimes, you know, strange things happen.
03:33But I think you're going to get…
03:34I'm not too worried.
03:35I'm not too worried.
03:36I think you're going to do very well.
03:37Everyone's very happy about it.
03:38Go ahead.
03:39Yes.
03:40Mr. President, how is the Iran-Israel ceasefire going, in your opinion?
03:42I think very good.
03:43I think very good.
03:44Israel came back yesterday.
03:46I was so proud of them because they came back.
03:48You know, they went out because they felt there was a violation.
03:51And technically, they were right.
03:53But it just wouldn't have worked out very well.
03:56And they brought the planes back.
03:58They had gone on to another journey because there was a little bit of a violation.
04:02And I said, you've got to get them back.
04:04And they came back, and it was a great thing.
04:06And it's going very well.
04:08Mr. President, what is your response to the foreign minister saying
04:11who still wants to enrich you here?
04:13Hello, Katie.
04:14She's so great, this one.
04:16Any questions she asks, I'll answer.
04:18Well, maybe I better not say that.
04:20What was your question?
04:21What is your response to the Iranian foreign minister continuing to say
04:25Iran will enrich uranium and pursue nuclear weapons?
04:28Well, I don't know if they've said that.
04:29But I'll tell you, the last thing they want to do is enrich anything right now.
04:32They want to recover.
04:33And we won't let that happen, number one.
04:36Militarily, we won't.
04:38I think we'll end up having somewhat of a relationship with Iran.
04:41I see it.
04:42Look, I've had a relationship over the last four days.
04:44They agreed to the ceasefire.
04:46And it was a very equal agreement.
04:48They both said that's enough.
04:49They both said it.
04:50But, no, they won't do that.
04:52The last thing they want to do, Katie, is enrich.
04:55They're not looking to — they're not — can you imagine, after all that,
04:59they're going to say, oh, let's go and do a bomb.
05:02You know, there could be a day in the future, and then somebody else taking our place will be saying, don't do it.
05:09And maybe they won't do it as well.
05:11I don't know.
05:12But they're not going to have a bomb, and they're not going to enrich.
05:15And we believe all of the stuff is down there.
05:17We don't think they had nearly the time, because to get that out is a very difficult thing.
05:20It's not like — it's not like moving a package or taking this carpet up and moving it.
05:24It's very difficult.
05:25It's very dangerous to do — we believe it's all down there.
05:28We had a tremendous victory, a tremendous hit.
05:33And because of that, they — I don't think they would have been down there, because they knew we were coming.
05:38When they knew we were coming, they're not going to be down in that, you know, 30 stories underground.
05:42So, no, I think it was just a tremendous victory for everybody, including Iran.
05:48Look, you know, they've got a country, and they've got oil, and they're very smart people, and they can come back.
05:54Israel got hit very hard, especially the last couple of days.
05:58Israel was hit really hard.
06:00Those ballistic missiles, boy, they took out a lot of buildings.
06:04And they've been great.
06:06Bibi Netanyahu should be very proud of himself.
06:09And they've really been great.
06:11But they're not going to be building bombs for a long time.
06:14Mr. President, what's your reaction to the intelligence reports saying that the Iranian nuclear sites were only partially devastated?
06:23Yeah, well, they said it was — actually, the report said — it could have been very — they don't know.
06:29I mean, they did a report.
06:31I could have Pete talk to it, because his department did the report.
06:35They really don't know.
06:36I think Israel is going to be telling us very soon, because Bibi is going to have people involved in that whole situation.
06:44We hear it was obliteration.
06:46It was a virtual obliteration.
06:47When you take a look at the ground above — don't forget, the flame is all underground.
06:51But everything above, if you look at the before and the after picture, everything above is burned black.
06:57The trees, everything.
06:59There's one building, but that's a building that sunk substantially into the granite.
07:03So that, you know, the fire goes right over it.
07:06It was — I believe it was total obliteration.
07:09I believe they didn't have a chance to get anything out, because we acted fast.
07:13If it would have taken two weeks, maybe.
07:15But it's very hard to remove that kind of material.
07:18Very hard and very dangerous for them to remove it.
07:21Plus, they knew we were coming.
07:23And if they know we're coming, they're not going to be down there.
07:26There aren't too many people that are going to be down there.
07:28Pete, do you have something to say about that?
07:30Well, Mr. President, when you talk to the people who built the bombs, understand what those bombs can do, and deliver those bombs,
07:37they landed precisely where they were supposed to, so it was a flawless mission.
07:41Flawless.
07:42Right down where we knew they needed to enter.
07:45And given the 30,000 pounds of explosives and capability of those munitions,
07:49it was devastation underneath Fordell.
07:52And the amount of munitions — six per location — any assessment that tells you it was something otherwise
07:58is speculating with other motives.
08:01And we know that, because when you actually look at the report — by the way, it was a top-secret report —
08:06it was preliminary, it was low confidence.
08:09All right, so this isn't — you make assessments based on what you know.
08:13And they said it could be very devastating, very serious.
08:15Moderate to severe, and we believe far more likely severe and obliterated.
08:20So this is a political motive here.
08:22Is there a leak investigation?
08:23Of course.
08:24We're doing a leak investigation with the FBI right now, because this information is for internal purposes,
08:29battle damage assessments, and CNN and others are trying to spin it to make the president look bad
08:34when this was an overwhelming success.
08:36We had — we had a tremendous success, and this is the New York Times.
08:39I call it the failing New York Times.
08:41It's going to hell.
08:42And CNN, which, as you know, very few people are watching.
08:45And you would think they'd do the opposite.
08:48You would think they'd want to say, this was an unbelievable success.
08:51And the thing that hurts me is it's really demeaning to the pilots and the people that put that whole thing together,
08:57the operas — the generals.
08:59That was a perfect operation.
09:01And when you look at the holes — and this was done from 52,000 feet.
09:05There was no moon.
09:06There was no light.
09:07And they — those three holes are right together.
09:10And also — and nobody talks about this — we shot 30 tomahawks from submarines,
09:16in particular one submarine, but that was 400 miles away.
09:20And every one of those tomahawks hit within a foot of where they were supposed to hit,
09:25took out a lot of buildings that Israel wasn't able to get.
09:29We took them out with tomahawks.
09:30We don't even talk about that.
09:32This was a devastating attack, and it knocked them for a loop.
09:37And, you know, if it didn't, they wouldn't have settled.
09:40If they had — if they had won, if we didn't take it out, they wouldn't have settled.
09:44Somebody mentioned that to me last night.
09:46If that thing wasn't devastated, they would have never settled.
09:49Marco, do you have something to say?
09:50Yeah, no.
09:51First of all, on the stuff about the intelligence,
09:53this is what a leaker is telling you the intelligence says.
09:55That's the game these people play.
09:57They read it, and that's the game these people play.
09:59They read it, and then they go out and characterize it the way they want it characterized,
10:03and they're leakers.
10:04This is the game they play.
10:05So that's number one.
10:06Number two, here's a fact.
10:07The conversion facility, which you can't do a nuclear weapon without a conversion facility.
10:11You can't — we can't even find where it is, where it used to be on the map.
10:15You can't even find where it used to be, because the whole thing is just blackened out.
10:18It's gone.
10:19It's wiped out.
10:20It's wiped out.
10:21Then we drop 12 of the strongest bombs on the planet right down the hole in two places.
10:25Everything underneath that mountain is in bad shape.
10:28And I refer you to the statement of the IAEA, Mr. Grossi.
10:31You know what he said?
10:32He said there was Iran, the way it looked the day before the attack,
10:35and what their nuclear program looks like now.
10:37Two very different things.
10:39They are way behind where they were just seven days ago.
10:42Now anything in the world can be rebuilt, but now we know where it is.
10:45And if they try to rebuild it, we'll have options there as well.
10:48But all this leaker stuff, these leakers are professional stabbers.
10:51That's what they are.
10:52They go out and they read this stuff, and then they tell you what it says against the law,
10:57but they characterize it for you in a way that's absolutely false.
11:01There's no way Iran comes to the table if somehow nothing had happened.
11:04This was complete and total obliteration.
11:07They're in bad shape.
11:08They are way behind today compared to where they were just seven days ago because of what the president did.
11:12Marco, can I just alert you to one other aspect?
11:15So the great thing is you took out the nuclear capability of Iran.
11:19This was crucial.
11:20You did it in a way which is extremely impressive.
11:23But the signal sends to the rest of the world that this president, when it comes to it,
11:27yes, he is a man of peace, but if necessary, he is willing to use strength,
11:31the enormous strength of the American military.
11:34So I think that signal to the rest of the world, this is far beyond Iran, is extremely important.
11:40So let me also point us to that aspect of what happened.
11:43They went down, Iran went down to the site afterwards.
11:47They said it's so devastated, and they settled when they saw what we did to it.
11:52And frankly, if we didn't do that, they would have had a lot of ammunition to keep going.
11:56They wouldn't have settled.
11:58Somebody brought that up, and two Iranians went down to see it.
12:01And they called back, and they said, this place is gone.
12:04So it's just fake news by CNN, which has got no ratings.
12:08It's a failed network.
12:09Anybody here from CNN, by the way?
12:11Because you're a really disgraceful network.
12:14MSNBC, I think, is actually worse.
12:16But they're all pretty bad.
12:17But yours is good, Katie, I'll tell you.
12:19You know what Marco reminded me?
12:21He did such a nice job there.
12:23It was nine years ago I had to debate this guy.
12:26He was not easy.
12:28I think he even got better.
12:31But when you were into your little thing, I said, this is when I had to debate this guy.
12:35You think it's easy to debate this guy?
12:36It's not easy.
12:37How long do you think that the Iranian nuclear program has been put back by these strikes?
12:42Years or totally?
12:44It took you a bit of what?
12:45I think basically decades, because I don't think they'll ever do it again.
12:49I just don't think they're going to do it.
12:50I think they're going to take their oil.
12:52They're going to have some missiles, and they'll have some defense.
12:56I think they've had it.
12:58I mean, they just went through hell.
13:00I think they've had it.
13:01The last thing they want to do is enrich.
13:03They've been trying to do it.
13:05By the way, it's hard to enrich.
13:06And, you know, when you look at a site like that, very, very hard to build.
13:11Very, very hard.
13:12Very expensive.
13:13They spent trillions of dollars trying to do this thing, and they didn't come up with it.
13:17And we're actually getting along with them very well right now.
13:21But had we not succeeded with that hit, that hit ended the war.
13:25That hit ended the war.
13:28I don't want to use an example of Hiroshima.
13:31I don't want to use an example of Nagasaki.
13:34But that was essentially the same thing.
13:36That ended that war.
13:37This ended that with a war.
13:39If we didn't take that out, they would have been — they'd be fighting right now.
13:42Mr. President?
13:43Yeah.
13:44If the Iranians do rebuild, would the United States —
13:47If they rebuild?
13:48Would the United States strike again?
13:49And I also have a question about Russia.
13:50Sure.
13:51But I'm not going to have to worry about that.
13:53It's gone for years, years.
13:55It's very tough to rebuild because the whole thing has collapsed.
13:58In other words, inside, it's all collapsed.
14:01Nobody can get in to see it because it's collapsed.
14:04You can't go in to see a room that has, you know, 10 million tons of rock in it.
14:09And the tunnels are totally collapsed.
14:12But they rebelled.
14:13Well, they've already looked at the tunnels.
14:15This was an unbelievable hit by genius pilots and genius people in the military.
14:21And they're not being given credit for it because we have scum that's in this group.
14:26And not all of you are.
14:27You have some great reporters.
14:28But you have scum.
14:30CNN is scum.
14:32MSDNC is scum.
14:34The New York Times is scum.
14:36They're bad people.
14:37They're sick.
14:38And what they've done is they're trying to make this unbelievable victory into something less.
14:43Now, even they admit that it was hit very hard.
14:46Okay?
14:47But it wasn't hit hard.
14:48It was hit brutally.
14:49And it knocked it out.
14:51The original word that I use, I guess it got us in trouble because it's a strong word.
14:56It was obliteration.
14:58And you'll see that.
14:59And it's going to come out.
15:01Israel is doing a report on it now.
15:04I understand.
15:05And I was told that they said it was total obliteration.
15:08You know, they have guys that go in there after the hit, and they say it was total obliteration.
15:14And, you know, I don't want it for me.
15:16I want it for the pilots.
15:17I want it for the military.
15:18They did such a good job.
15:19If you were in the Situation Room with me, with the generals and all of the people that did such a good job,
15:25and then they get demeaned by these idiots at CNN who can't get ratings, the place is dying.
15:30Nobody wants to even waste their time going on their shows.
15:33So they formed with the New York Times, who's dying also.
15:36Without Trump, you wouldn't have a New York Times.
15:38And then just changing gears to your meeting with Zelensky later today,
15:43can you give us any preview of what the two of you might be discussing?
15:46No, well, we'll discuss the obvious.
15:48We'll discuss his difficulties.
15:50He's got a little difficulty.
15:52Zelensky.
15:53He's a nice guy.
15:55I mean, I'm going to meet him today.
15:56I don't know.
15:57I assume we're going to be discussing Ukraine.
15:59Yes.
16:00It seems like the most likely subject.
16:01Can you restart talks there or anything that you might do?
16:05Well, we're going to see.
16:06I mean, I've spoken to Putin a lot, and he actually was very nice.
16:09He volunteered help on, as you know, Iran.
16:13I said, no, I don't need help on Iran.
16:15I need help on Russia.
16:16Okay?
16:17I said, do me a favor.
16:18Help us on Russia, not on Iran.
16:20But he was very nice.
16:22We're going to talk about that.
16:24We're going to talk.
16:25I think progress is being made.
16:27I think great progress is being made on Gaza.
16:30I think the — because of this attack that we made,
16:33I think we're going to have some very good news.
16:35I was talking to Steve Witkoff, who, by the way, is terrific,
16:38and who knows more about this subject than anybody —
16:41the subject of what we were just talking about.
16:43He was on last night with Jesse and with Laura and with Sean.
16:50And boy, he has — Susan, he has a great take on it.
16:54He just explains it so easily.
16:56He's really very knowledgeable.
16:57But he did tell me that Gaza is very close.
17:00One follow-up on Iran.
17:05Both you and Secretary Rubio and Heksef mentioned the lead.
17:09But can you clarify, is the intelligence correct or is the intelligence wrong?
17:13Well, the intelligence was very inconclusive.
17:16The intelligence says, we don't know.
17:18It could have been very severe.
17:20That's what the intelligence says.
17:22So I guess that's correct.
17:25But I think we can take the we don't know.
17:27It was very severe.
17:28It was obliteration.
17:30And you'd think that a media outlet would say, isn't that a great thing?
17:36I mean, more importantly for the pilots for the military, you take their guts out.
17:41You take their absolute guts out.
17:42They had a tremendous attack.
17:44It was a complete obliteration.
17:46The other team, the other group, Iran, said, let's stop this.
17:53And you know what?
17:54Israel said it, too.
17:55Very smart.
17:56They fought like hell, and then they said, let's stop.
17:59And they're going to build themselves.
18:01And I really see it as sticking.
18:03I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco.
18:05Maybe we're going to do papers.
18:06I don't even know if you need them.
18:08They're not going to be fighting each other.
18:09They've had it.
18:10They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard.
18:13You know, they fight like hell.
18:14You can't stop them.
18:15Let them fight for about two, three minutes.
18:17Then it's easier to stop them.
18:19And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language.
18:22You have to use strong language.
18:23Every once in a while you have to use a certain word.
18:25I think we have to join the others.
18:27Yes, we're going to join some other group.
18:28Yes, thank you.
18:29Katie, one last question.
18:30Do you believe that this strike on the Iranian nuclear program will lead to the release
18:43of the hostages in Gaza?
18:45I think that it helped a little bit.
18:47It showed a lot of power.
18:48Yeah, I think it helped.
18:49But we're going to get separately.
18:51Even before this, we were very close to making a deal on Gaza.
18:55I think this helped, yes.
18:56Okay?
18:57Thank you, Katie.
18:59Thank you, everybody.
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