Zak Starkey on being fired from The Who, dreams of playing with Oasis again, and advice for Barry Keoghan playing his dad Ringo Starr

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00:00quite andrew sorry how's life how's 2025 treating you pretty good in and out and in and out

00:06in and out of a lot well in and out one thing for sure how have you found the uh the who drama the

00:13the chat around it i'm very thankful for the support i got very thankful i didn't particularly

00:18like what they're saying about roger because it's only one gig in it and there's only one

00:22above cut you know and at the end of the day technical problems technical problems usually

00:28with a who just it'll crash was die again but on this particular occasion i don't know why

00:36i dropped some beats apparently i thought you looked everywhere for them and i can't find them

00:41right i watched it a couple of times i can't find them but i got i got the sap is it usually that

00:47abrupt that no i've not been sacked before are you fighting it and i'm back in again like three

00:53four days later yeah and then that near two weeks after that i soaked here and what was the interim

01:01period like those weeks in those days in between the first act would be like pete said you strong

01:06enough you're strong enough to like fight for your job back i said not if you've got to do it for me

01:12whether for the who i wouldn't be playing the drums you know because i was a guitarist first

01:16my phone and he went all right right let's get your job back and then roger demanded uh

01:25public apology and admittance of dropping two beats they wanted you to admit the mistake

01:31you're on a public apology yeah and admit admittance of dropping two beats

01:37and so i did it but i did it with like a duck playing the dramas which is my character in the

01:44mantras video yeah pete foaming here and tried again about the duck

01:50did it out of the duck got my gig back ten days later sat together

01:58cool but just roger said he can't over you no more after i've done that why okay

02:07but i still talk to roger every week on the fire he'll text repeat all the time

02:13and i spoke to roger last week he said don't take your drums out of the warehouse yet in case we need

02:19you what the fuck's going on man right that's where it's at now i mean the week before that

02:28he said well we've never fired you we've retired you because you're so busy with your own group you

02:33have a project i find groups in oasis the other half's in happy mondays he said there's me and a

02:40fucking rabbit out of the video right i've got i'm free and he meant oh sort of leave it there and then

02:50last week don't take your drums out of the warehouse in case we give you a call i said well

02:54oh yeah because i've written a letter to bob dylan because i go in you know you're expecting a reply

03:00from bob oh no no but at least i tried yeah yeah because i know all his lyrics and i know all his

03:06tunes and if he changes them up like he always does i could color it to have been following pete

03:11talented for 30 years and he never plays the same thing twice so i could try the bob probably

03:18has all this colored your experience and memories do you think do you feel weird about going back

03:22to the who if it would happen no um i just think it's the who it's all the first time it sort of

03:29fazed me a bit but and then second time it's a bit disappointing and then they asked me to say

03:37that i left and i didn't leave so i wouldn't do it yeah so that's sort of like you know having that's

03:44not very clear pete statement that pete has to say because he's in a group with roger yeah um

03:53and then i counted it by saying i'm not leaving like i've been sacked again because that's the truth

04:00i'm not a fucking lie especially to all the people that that supported me through all that

04:06shit you know that would just be letting everyone down like oh well i'm gonna leave it anyway thanks a

04:11lot yeah well let's just start with the single i mean um domino bones get dangerous finally getting

04:17an official release yes it did come out before that 600 limited edition vinyl to go to the cavern

04:23gigs that was in january yeah um very venue that let us do two gigs in a day so we could play the crew

04:31and the rehearsals and everything they're vinyl yeah and then we're supposed to play here and all

04:37the crew and everything's here i've got a blood clot lost all the dough from the cavern so i couldn't

04:42do the key oh no yeah but domino bones has become something of a cult classic already then great yeah

04:49good news it is isn't it it's mad really mad to me i mean you don't get much more of an all-star

04:55lineup than that on one song do you not really unless it's the beatles so yes no you don't but it

05:03is no sense it to me but i scrapped his music and i just listened to sean and i played my drum my

05:12electric drums for a boombox and we call it on there to find parts to play with sean i'd sped him up as

05:20well about 90 p.m and in the end we used what we used what was on here that's the drums and then i

05:28grew up writing music for it and then dropped no back in and it was just no way this is the maddest

05:35thing i've ever realized it's come from the beginning well for those who didn't get their hands on the

05:40vinyl i mean how would you describe the the dna of this track what's the sonic landscape the the vibe

05:47there's a bit of hip-hop a bit of rock and then at the end it's like three birds from mods when did

05:53gnoll get involved in this track oh he said about you yeah he said this might be better for your band

05:57than mine because it didn't work for his band so the hip-hop sort of element of shawd i think

06:01five high fine birds is that for high fine bloods or yeah yeah so i took the musical started from the

06:07ground up and at first my version was hip-hop um and then we were going to do later

06:15and no one there's no there's only drums and that's what the fuck i'm supposed to pay so that's

06:22why music yeah go on it which is quite difficult retrospectively so i mean yeah but we've already

06:28got the track um but it worked you know it's a bit thin and easy so i couldn't taste nothing wrong

06:35all that it's heavy and it's mad isn't it it's crazy and and um uterary no no part of beautiful

06:43the retro when this was coming together did did you know that oasis were coming back together in

06:51the background or was that all very hush-hush we had this stream before that because the hip-hop

06:55version was done before yeah but then i knew about oasis last yeah no one called me on my birthday

07:01tell me i wasn't in it oh didn't know it's my birthday we like i lied to be in it yeah it's

07:05my favorite group of my generation you know and the thing about groups that you love like the who

07:13or oasis so that's not a job it's protecting music so that no one does it wrong yeah

07:23because suddenly people just it's a job and they don't really care but when it's straight

07:30with a band be like fun it's like fucking hell all right yeah then it's

07:39it's completely different and then where did we go everything else sort of

07:45i'm fucking love all those i always did

07:48i always had this thing with liam for years from like mid 90s where i go

07:55i'll go all right good i've got a daffa for her all right daffas still the greatest rock and roll

08:01singer in the world then he goes all right zaki raki still the greatest rock and roll during the world

08:05this is all for years and then i was in it i'm gonna leave it so nothing but good memories of those

08:10times did you feel like you like you were the best band in the world at that given time right he's

08:14best live band by miles we went to america and we destroyed it he was great

08:21fucking great and them boys never argue they want to ruin your army it was just

08:27i just had a laugh and played great rock and roll and what do you make of joey warrenker advice for

08:31him or make sure you get the tempos right them boys know they're smart they're sort of smart business

08:39and they really do know they're like did it for us for it's slow they're bang on it

08:48do you reckon oasis got a new album in it or do you think it's all about the shows

08:51i don't know i don't know for liam's arse album's a work of art really did work above mark

08:57first tune mother is that what it's called i thought it's joe corona so out there isn't it

09:03yeah and also great they leave his ego at the door a little bit get paid help well done yes i really

09:09thought he um yeah that's the name of my minister to 10 years how would you describe the chemistry

09:17between yourself bears sean and andy what happens when you get into a room uh we could be in a dressing

09:22room me sean bears and andy could be in a dressing room for 12 hours and we were great me and sean

09:28andy was busy having a number one and we're right so everything's me and sean and my wife throughout

09:34curation she wrote gorilla uh so basically it's been me and sean in the studio for everything

09:43and uh mantra aside and waiting for bob dylan to reply what else is in the in the diary what else

09:47what's on your bucket list

09:51i'll say anything world you'll go you're too busy

09:53okay watching cash neck i'm gonna have a wank right and relax with it no i'm not you're gonna

10:00feed some mantris stuff and mix it it's mostly it's done already you know and um i had a record

10:07label in jamaica called trojan to maker nothing to do with trojan uk and uh i have two tibbutt

10:14two cinemateals four toots died i was promised in my career she's life work which is two things

10:20i would just keith richard's already played on it in satisfaction and um he's done it so well it's

10:27all i take much work to finish it really um but i said i'll finish it so i'll do that that that's it

10:32really got the beatles biopics coming out barry keegan yeah barry keegan playing uh

10:38ringo star yeah what do you make of that and what's your advice for him becoming ringo a really big

10:43another nose it's all there is to it yeah i don't know what else to say i mean what else to say he

10:52looks nothing like my dad doesn't he like yeah but he could fix anything can't he yeah and i don't know

10:59can you don't know well you can certainly give someone a big nose and and i don't know

11:04think about my dad is his personality the dad's personality sold sold the beatles to lyrical his

11:10own really it's that movie he's the one with the charisma really um pulling that off your heart

11:18that my dad here's just himself yeah i'm playing like ringo isn't it easy

11:24well he's not actually playing the dude's he i think so i think i've already been uh getting

11:27drum lessons i think that's impossible no one buried on my dad nobody not like that well good

11:35luck to him just you'll be the first guy that can actually pull it off my dad's new you unique

11:42the greatest ruffle i've done in the world still better now than then

11:45so zach that's everything thanks mate it's just your time man

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