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00:00i was a working girl working girl working girl courtesan escort escort girl former adult film

00:11star i'm a sex trade survivor if i could talk to my 11 year old me watching cat house i need a

00:20minute i would definitely tell little me that not everything you see on tv is a reality

00:26hbo put us in the living rooms of america with cat house the bunny ranch built itself as one of

00:34nevada's most upscale brothels and the program shows the inner workings of the business behind

00:39the brothel cat house was one of the most watched hbo documentaries in the history of the network

00:45at first i thought it was a sequel to the cat in the hat movie i was not even close prostitutes on tv

00:51who thought that was gonna sell dennis did it's just sex relax it's just sex we felt

00:56like we were stars joining us now live is the owner of the bunny ranch himself the legendary

01:02dennis hoff dennis changed the system dennis made it a business he made the women business women

01:09it's not going away sex for sale is here to stay he was a marketing media genius but dennis hoff's

01:17legacy is extremely mixed look dennis's world was buying and selling people that's how he thought

01:27of us he thought of us as objects that he owned he made us feel like on the bottom of his feet and

01:33i remember saying okay just do it and i was scared but hbo wanted to sell a show they just didn't want

01:44to show the the ugly side of it i really had no idea that people were being drawn in by the show itself

01:52women watch cat house as young girls 11 12 years old and then decided that they wanted to go to that

02:00place chrissy is the reason why you use parental controls on your tv because at 15 she was watching

02:06cat house and here we are they made it seem so fun on the show and what was really happening

02:13with forced rape coercion murder abuse overdose control if someone had told me i would have said

02:24no is this something that we want to beam into homes the place was about lying was all lies it's

02:31important for us to hold hbo accountable it's kind of hard to say it was a documentary when you have

02:36a pimp directing scenes in his own brothel

02:39so

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03:09in 2003 a tornado hit my house and I had just gotten a divorce and when you have young children

03:30to take care of I decided to go and work at the bunny ranch I did what I had to do

03:36and that decision altered my life completely I'm Shelly I was a working girl at the moonlight

03:48bunny ranch in Nevada owned by Dennis Hoff I heard about the moonlight bunny ranch from a talk show

03:54tucked away in a dusty corner of the Nevada desert the world famous bunny ranch is a legal brothel

04:00where a man can hire a prostitute to satisfy almost any desire I remember seeing Dennis Hoff men come

04:09to the ranch to do things that their wives can't or won't do we can fulfill almost any fantasy at the

04:13bunny ranch it has to be safe and most of all it has to be fun I think Air Force Amy was on the talk

04:19show with Dennis Air Force Amy at orgasm for a living at the bunny ranch and I was astounded I had no idea

04:29that prostitution was legal anywhere in the United States and so I sent an email with a picture of

04:38myself to the moonlight bunny ranch and Dennis Hoff himself called me back within two hours and said

04:46I want you out here I flew out to Nevada I was picked up by Dennis Hoff at the airport

04:55and Dennis told me that HBO was doing the show and he wanted me to do that he walked me in

05:04and there was cameramen there filming for the HBO show

05:11Dennis took me out to the bungalow behind the building and wanted sex and I had just met this

05:20man I had flown there to work he was the boss he was the owner and he wanted to have sex the very

05:29first day I got there and he didn't want to wear a condom so I was absolutely horrified that was my

05:37first day at the ranch I was afraid to tell Dennis no I had no idea what I was getting into

05:46nobody seems to care if a prostitute gets raped I believe in the product I love the product I use it

05:53daily I saw the ugly side of Dennis but the world on cat house only saw the fun side of him

06:05somebody toast here here's a toast to the best family the bunny ranch family because they didn't know

06:11the real Dennis Dennis was all about being violent

06:19Dennis Hoff was actually born in Phoenix Arizona in 1946 his parents were immigrants and they came

06:33to America for a better place so Dennis Hoff actually grew up with very little money and Dennis resented

06:40that which made him want to be more of a successful individual he started by sweeping the gas station

06:48floor and then ended up buying a gas station after that they decided to get into timeshare sales

06:54Dennis sold timeshares before he owned the bunny ranch and he used to always say that he was still

07:02selling timeshares it was just a triangular shaped piece of land pretty terrible to say but uh it was

07:11true he was still selling timeshares just it happened to be women

07:16then Dennis and his father decide to travel cross country and as they go through Reno Dennis finds out

07:26about these brothels he fell in love with the idea of that type of business

07:32the rest is history

07:36before Dennis the prostitution industry was kind of like in the shadows for decades but he mainstreamed it

07:47I'm the new breed of broth loaner I'm a straight guy I pay my taxes I do the right things I come

07:53from uh from a business background I'm educated that's the new breed of broth loaner the old school is over

07:59hello I'm Air Force Amy I'm the most celebrated courtesan of modern times Air Force Amy interview

08:13take one Margaret

08:14I got a hair in my mouth I worked for Dennis Hoff and helped put the famous moonlight bunny ranch on the map

08:24I left home at a very very early age and I started hitchhiking around the country

08:31I learned real early how to be resourceful and I learned also that sex was a commodity

08:39so my first 10 years in the industry most of the brothels were really really bad the last place I worked

08:48had one window in the whole place that big okay on weekends they would lock up the pay phones

08:53because they didn't want you calling home and talking about and getting upset and leaving

08:57it was awful we used to call it

09:01so when I first got to the bunny ranch I just got catapulted into the 20th century

09:11and everything was up beat up beat up beat up beat up beat up beat

09:15fun fun fun fun fun

09:18brothels are not by law allowed to advertise but they can still go in the media they can appear on tv

09:27shows they can talk about their businesses but they can't put up an ad in the newspaper

09:31so Dennis was very savvy he used the media oh I can't put an ad up great I'll go and CNN and talk about

09:39Dennis Hoffs bunny ranch owner that was just a stroke of genius right there and who would have

09:45ever thought who had the balls to put prostitutes on tv who thought that was going to sell

09:52after the airline sticks it to you

09:54Dennis did and it did we would go on every talk show at the time was talk shows right there was

10:03Jenny Jones but what's the right word for uh is prostitute okay now I got most outrageous guest

10:09of the year on Jenny Jones there was Tyra Banks joining us also is Dennis Hoff he owns the Moonlight

10:16Bunny Ranch Oprah while she waited for a client Brooke gave us a tour of the bunny ranch there's

10:22approximately 30 rooms and they're always full Dennis made himself the authority on prostitution

10:27and he said that's how it works he goes media begets media once you do one story on prostitution

10:33networks go let's interview that guy pretty soon he's the guy I'm selling sex like other people are

10:40selling soda pop and when Dennis got into the industry it was really popular and cool to be a

10:48pimp he had Snoop Dogg he had to pit my ride you know pimps were really really glamorized so Dennis had

10:54sat in the ring at the exact right time because it was cool to be a pimp in the early 2000s it was

11:02the time that was sort of selling itself as being all about women's sexual liberation there's Heidi

11:07Fleiss whose job as a madam is being talked about as the ultimate success story of an independent woman

11:12entrepreneur there's parasol to the bleep sex tape becoming a pop culture staple and then there's the

11:17photo shoot of Britney Spears that is clearly invoking some kind of Lolita fantasy for men and so

11:23sex itself becomes a thing to be celebrated HBO at that time also had this show called taxi cab

11:32confessions where they put hidden cameras in a taxi cab and picked up people and then he's dawned on me

11:37I said let's put hidden cameras in the brothel and capture the conversations of white men and women go

11:42there so I called the bunny ranch then I said Dennis can I come do that sure come on out so we drive to

11:52the bunny ranch and Dennis says George you know what I want oh what do you want Dennis he says I want

11:57to be a household name and I said I'll do my best so I show up at HBO's documentary division and

12:05Sheila Nevins was in charge of that and Patty Kaplan does all their directing they had done real sex

12:11together that show and other documentaries and Sheila Nevins says we think it's a wonderful idea so I

12:19turned the reins over to the HBO folks and uh you know Sheila and uh Patty and they did the rest

12:25so the genesis of cat house was it didn't seem very much different than all the TV and media that we

12:34were already doing so sex and entertainment at that time covered two sides one side was that all porn

12:42uh denigrates women and then there was another side that said porn empowers women or uh and can empower

12:49women that's done correctly and in this kind of ferment this little show came on to HBO

12:57Dennis wanted me to be a big part of the cat house show but I didn't know that young girls would come

13:06to work there that probably would have never even thought of working at the bunny ranch they hadn't seen

13:12the show so looking back I should have never agreed to do it

13:19first reality tv took us inside the home of the Osbournes then there was the Anna Nicole show now a

13:26provocative new HBO documentary is showing viewers a very different kind of house cat house was supposed

13:31to be the first time ever they filmed live negotiations from inside a brothel a pamper party

13:40we do um lots of massage on the sensual music sensual massage and everything is totally you pay attention

13:47to you all about you I was the director of photography the gaffer the coordinating producer

13:53one of the sound mixers for HBO's cat house I was contacted by New York producers saying can you do

14:00this job can you be there it's going to be very hands on I didn't know anything other than there's

14:08going to be a lot of sex workers in this shoot and it's going to be odd and weird but they're paying

14:13so I will go so I was shooting a lot of documentaries I had an old friend by the name of

14:20Patty Kaplan who was the director producer of the show so Patty thought of me when she had to shoot

14:28in the cat house why did you want to make this documentary was there some sort of message that

14:33you were going after was there some sort of morality that you wanted to explore I think actually the

14:38approach was extremely non-judgmental no there wasn't a morality to explore it was more like

14:44this is an environment that people are quite unfamiliar with so let's get inside and see how

14:50it works honestly when they came to me and said you're going to be spending months at a brothel I'm

14:57like great and then I'm like what you just think you go into a brothel and you have sex

15:02go ahead you sit right here are you down here and mom come sit over here have a chat with us

15:09so he's never had sex before now it's time but it was mostly about the way the girls worked with

15:16the men and how they negotiate and they come up you know with a price she's right about a thousand

15:21on cat house we had a very particular kind of task we wanted to make the environment look natural

15:42we wanted to feel like that was what you would experience if you walked into the room

15:47we also want the faces to look good there's a certain amount of glamour and in order to create

15:55that glamour we need to actually use lights cat house was a fascinating little social experiment I

16:02would really like you to just like get aggressive jumping and stomping and all that kind of stuff and

16:07that dealt with the way people's sexuality was being expressed

16:11cat house premieres tomorrow night on HBO right after the season finale of the sopranos I think

16:19that programming cat house right after the season finale of the sopranos and in season four of the

16:25sopranos so it already has like this kind of robust built-in audience it says something about the network's

16:32desire to want this documentary to do well I remember watching the sopranos at the end of the show

16:40suddenly like I'm in a brothel in Nevada and there's all this craziness going on there was a lot of

16:47nudity and a lot of sex I want you to get butt naked right now what you're gonna do for me

16:52I want to go party yeah I'll pay for this and I'll get butt naked for you yeah god damn it was like a traffic

16:58accident that you can't avert your eyes from it very much sort of focuses on the women but they're

17:04constantly talking about how much they love working at the bunny ranch how much they love sex I would do

17:10this until I was 60 if I could I really would it's just that fun and you sort of come away from it

17:16thinking oh what a lovely sort of place for these young women to find you know economic empowerment

17:22what do you think people will walk away from at the end of this watching this documentary

17:25uh disgusted intrigued wanting to sign up to be positive I mean what is it disgusted than they may

17:33have been and there's a perspective you know that needless to say about uh selling sex that doesn't

17:39make a lot of people comfortable but I think the environment is so pleasant the tone of this

17:44documentary is it really just reads as like a PR puff piece because this is compelling television

17:50nobody's seen the inner workings of a working girl in a in a in a client this is unbelievable television

17:56both patty the director and dennis had a pretty clear idea of what they wanted to do before it

18:02happened they would really plan it out together it wasn't a documentary we were told what to do

18:10this was the first scene that I ever filmed for cat house when it comes to actual oral sex we had to

18:28teach a class about sex to a bunch of men and I just remember being very nervous you know sometimes

18:37guys will just dig in and it may be painful the girl's not worked up enough you got to start out

18:43slow that is not a client that is Jesse and he was a driver and a bartender at the bunny ranch

18:50there I am usually try to get some before hands and uh how uh just by uh rubbing and touching everyone in

19:01the scene that was supposed to be customers were actually friends of dennis or people who worked at

19:06the bunny ranch what what do you like about this like this was something that they concocted for

19:13the show

19:14this was definitely not what I thought it was gonna be the reason I wanted to work on this series was

19:28because of the people that I was working with I knew that they were serious documentarians and did

19:37you know really quality work and I could learn a lot from them but here we had documentary people

19:44controlling who appears on camera and what's going to happen when and it was a constructed reality that was

19:51for entertainment purposes they want their scene they want what they want they've got it in their head

19:56what they want it to be and they're going to manipulate you to get it whether it's good or bad

20:02for you another technique is what Amy is

20:05regardless of what it does to your image I'm madly in love with cat house I'm just madly in love with

20:15the whores this is an interview with Sheila Nevin head of the documentary unit at HBO I love them

20:21they're honest they're great actresses the greatest actresses in the business are in this expensive

20:26warehouse I mean to act like this guy matters to you you got to be really an actor studio actress to

20:33do that Patty liked my look I'm Shelly do she she liked the fact that I was tall and thin and large

20:41breasted and long blonde hair and she didn't like my eyes at one point Patty Kaplan told me I needed to

20:49have my eyes done and the cameraman got mad at her and pulled her out in the hallway and said don't

20:55you dare talk to her that way don't you tell her she needs plastic surgery all right boys well our time

21:00is up and we have to go now because we're all horny cat house was basically just promotional video for the

21:07bunny ranch the fact that I was a softcore porn actress is humiliating but Dennis told me I was

21:15going to be a star that I needed to be on this show I'd make tons of money I would be famous it would

21:24make everyone rich it didn't make me rich I was victimized and Dennis Hoff was the main victimizer

21:33I was very scared the first time I was in a lineup I didn't know what to expect

21:45the bell gets rung so the bell would ring when a person would come to the door and they run down

21:54the hallway the women would come running down these two long hallways in their four inch heels and they

22:01came in and stood in this thing called the lineup where they tried to attract the attention of the

22:08guy who came in I both felt pick me and don't pick me because I was nervous one of the first things we

22:16did was shoot the lineup that Dennis wanted women to do when a new client comes in and it's a demeaning

22:22process you know pick your Barbie do you want disco Barbie do you want this Barbie do you want sexy

22:27Barbie but Patty immediately said well it's a stage give them a spotlight and let them show themselves

22:33off and what Tom and I saw was no this is not showing off this is human beings on sale but if

22:41they did too much to attract the attention that is if they talked beyond hello my name is or if they

22:49revealed too much or they did a little too much action it was dirty hustling

22:54I remember one episode of cat house it said there's no moving and line up and then they cut

23:00away to a shot of me just moving quick and all this stuff we don't want them to do things to give

23:04an unfair advantage you know grind or anything I could be the brunt of a joke it's okay but it became

23:11more difficult for me as I became more famous because people would think that oh she's too famous

23:18she's going to cost too much thank God this is not going to cost you nearly as much as you thought

23:24because we all say our names they go Air Force Amy and I think I'm getting picked but I'm not they

23:29just recognize me so not only do they know who I am they didn't pick me when I was picked I went to

23:38the horrible little room I had I was new there so I just got the worst room there was and negotiated

23:46and then I had sex I didn't know if I would be able to do what was expected of me for the money

23:54I had just got there I had no idea what I was doing I had men that did not want sex I had one that hired

24:05me just to watch me smoke he had a smoking fetish and he wanted me to lay on the bed in a seductive pose

24:12in my lingerie and just smoke cigarettes that's all he wanted to see but most of the time just

24:19regular clients come in wanting sex and there are repercussions that came from that there were people

24:27that judged me for working there and there were things that went on that I would not want a young

24:34girl experiencing there are some really sick guys out there that really want some really gross

24:39disgusting things men that want to be peed on and pooped on and to be hurt and to be humiliated or they

24:49want to hurt and humiliate you there were young girls that were coming to work there that probably would

24:55have never even thought of working there if they hadn't seen the show I was 30 when I worked there I'd already

25:01been married and divorced and had experienced life and sex and it's just horrifying to think that

25:07girls so young would want to do that over the weeks that I worked there I realized that HBO

25:16really never wanted to dip further than just below this first public relations level

25:24Dennis groping people I mean that was a daily occurrence and they were supposed to like it

25:32and they pretended to like it I own the candy store I'm eating all the candy I love it nobody asked you

25:39ever not want Dennis to touch you when he's touching people that was not part of the remit of cat house

25:47they wanted to sell a show they wanted to make money off of that show and they wanted to make money off of the

25:56the girls having a great time they just didn't want to show the the ugly side of it

26:02Patty would tell us ahead of time what we were going to do okay there's going to be a clown he's going to come in the door

26:10he's going to have balloons he's going to pick Shelly they're going to sit at the bar talk to him for

26:17about five or ten minutes and then take him to the room

26:19I was expected to sleep with the clown they thought that would be interesting for the show

26:32what you see is what you get I mean we don't show exactly but we get pretty close

26:40we're very tasteful even when we're in a whorehouse

26:43when I think about working on the show cat house I think of it as a job that's not my favorite

26:55but I'm not ashamed of any of the work that I did on it the show tried to replicate that sort of sense

27:04of silliness if you will because it's a fantasy world and I bought into the fantasy but then so

27:10did Sheila and so did Patty it's us projecting an image it's us promoting the girls it's us doing

27:19things like we're doing right now to let the world know that the bunny ranch is the party place of

27:23America it's his business to keep it as attractive as possible but sometimes was painful to watch

27:32had he told me that I would only get paid for sex scenes that I would not get paid for all the

27:44other scenes one of the reasons that reality television can be so successful is because you're

27:53dealing with a lot of unpaid labor and yet they make tons of money for the networks that they

27:59air on and knowing that the women in cat house were not compensated for really being the heart of the

28:09show it's just another form of exploitation HBO wasn't much different than a pimp because I was barely

28:16paid anything I was recognized everywhere I went after the show came out it would have been nice to

28:22have a little bit of money to show for it I was actually losing money being on HBO because I wasn't

28:29working when I was doing the filming for the show cat house dealt with an interesting set of specifics

28:36and dealing with human beings and the fact that you are selling a human connection the working girl is

28:43doing that but that is between two people the fact that HBO is monetizing that sexual transaction in

28:49a way that exploited the women it was making me regret my involvement in the cat house as we were

28:57following the action that happens we would end up sometimes in the room and at one point we're with

29:04Isabella Soprano and her client at the time and we ended up being in the room while she was having sex with

29:10the client this is the first time I'm watching this this should have been the point where we scooted out

29:23of that room I was like I did not sign up for this I'm not here to shoot porn I'm here to shoot a documentary

29:33this is not what I would normally be doing at work like I was expecting soft core photo stuff not full

29:42on pornography this is when you're like why did I take this job that first scene of me cracking the

29:52whip that opens every episode that was something I did not want to do because I felt that men were

29:57already intimidated by me that I was too strong of a personality that was the last thing I wanted to

30:02do and it opened every episode when the girls and I were touching each other in the parlor or making

30:12out those were Dennis's ideas Dennis wanted to make it look like we were all just waiting to have sex and

30:19we were nymphos so Dennis somewhat became the director because he was coordinating what he wanted

30:27to see in the scenes and I didn't always see Patti Kaplan around it's kind of hard to say it was a

30:38documentary when you have a pimp directing scenes in his own brothel watching the show HBO definitely

30:45wanted it to look like a fun place to be and so I can see where it would be tempting for a young girl

30:52to watch the cat house show and think it would be something fun but they don't understand the reality

30:59of it they they aren't seeing what it really is like behind closed doors with Dennis in a brothel

31:08you don't have HR lines to respect so every interaction with a woman was paternal it placed

31:16him in a superior uh position to her he was her boss and her daddy it made me uncomfortable to call

31:32him daddy and it was weird to see the other girls calling daddy of course daddy I've ever had what

31:39why do your girls have to call you daddy from they don't have to call me daddy but my girlfriend was

31:44just a weird coincidence my girlfriend does that the thing is you do treat women like objects to an

31:49extent they're commodities the the demand is there they want to fulfill the demand Dennis always used

31:56to say that just like anybody selling a product he has to know the value of the product but I don't

32:04recall Patty ever asking any of the women who worked at the moonlight bunny ranch how they felt about

32:10sleeping with Dennis their boss I thought it was absolutely revolting that I was expected to sleep with the

32:18boss and that the boss could go around and just sleep with anyone and it was considered normal

32:23I was scared Dennis would promote you if you slept with him he would brag about you

32:41Dennis had a very active sex life with the working girls and a lot of the working girls would offer

32:51themselves up to him there were girls that slept with him that didn't want to sleep with him but

32:56thought they had to Dennis preyed upon the women that were most easily victimized I was afraid to not go

33:07along with what he wanted I learned a long time ago to not fight back because I myself was sexually abused

33:16as a child so I learned to build a wall and not think about it I literally visualized putting brick by

33:25brick up I remember doing that when I was around 12 13 years old it shaped me I probably would have

33:33never thought about working at the bunny ranch if I hadn't had an old man touching me when I was a little

33:40bitty kid and so whenever I was in a situation where I was having sex and didn't want to I was doing it for

33:51money I was able to disassociate from the situation and build that wall up and pretend that I I wasn't doing

34:03that so that's what I did with Dennis I didn't know what else to do he had a great presence on TV but

34:13behind closed doors Dennis was the rattlesnake after a while having shot there for one 10 day period and

34:22then coming back again I realized that I was becoming more and more repulsed by Dennis Hoff Dennis found it

34:30very easy to treat every woman he came across in that same demeaning and sexualized way I began to

34:38see below the surface into the other layers of what was going on there the darker side but as a

34:45documentarian if somebody's in front of my camera my job is to find the human being in the person even

34:51though I made the test what that person does he felt like he was improving a girl's career and he actually

34:57used that as a come on you know you need to sleep with me because it'll help your career and you got

35:03privileges he would take you out to dinner he took me to the billboard awards he gave him everything

35:10he could possibly give him and the other girls were envious of that for whoever was his girlfriend at

35:16the time she'd be the ones going on the junket and hitting all the shows so for all the advertising that I did get it

35:24it wasn't handed to me not it by any means I work work work work work work and trying to make the

35:31most money to get this spot this thing this thing this thing and then his girlfriend would get the same

35:37thing did you and him everything did Dennis and I ever date no no it was kind of a sick twisted

35:47relationship that I had with Dennis because I wanted him to like me but I did not want to have

35:53sex with him I don't think that he had any idea what these women go through or how or why they ended

36:01up working for him some days I feel a little bit shaky and I think oh my gosh what if he picks me

36:07and since I've been here I found that just having a couple of drinks relaxes me and lets me not be quite

36:18as shaky I didn't have the power in the first few years to say no to Dennis I tried my best to avoid

36:34him I would try to be busy I was glad when I was booked and I was making money rather than being

36:41available for him and then he would just grab another girl and go out back he liked that power

36:48that he had that control and Dennis was very violent when he had sex liking to slap and choke it was hard to

36:59get him to stop once I finally quit going along with what he wanted I was no longer in his good graces he

37:12was no longer referring me to the big clients and he started to talk bad about me he said I had an

37:20alcohol problem he would turn against girls that said no to him and after a few years I decided it was time to

37:30leave the Moonlight Bunny Ranch

37:40I really had no idea of the reach of the Cat House series on HBO I mean it did really well and people were being drawn in

37:48in by the show itself Chrissy is the reason why you use parental controls on your TV because when at 15

37:55she was watching Cat House and here we are if I could talk to my 11 year old me watching Cat House I would

38:05definitely tell little me that not everything you see on TV is a reality so the idea that an 11 or 12 year old

38:12would would decide oh that looks like fun that's disturbing that young girls would do that but I

38:19also think that that is the way society works is we emulate something and we see something and then we

38:24end up doing it how did you find each other HBO so the first HBO special that aired I watched it the

38:32illusion was always there Dennis kept the place on a cheerful glitzy happy level because this is our family we

38:39our family we are a family it's the best family a person could have I love you all so the darker side

38:44was kept very private and very much away from the cameras and that became an image that was then bought

38:53and sold on television when I watched Cat House I wanted to believe that there could be such a thing as a

39:02happy well-adjusted sex worker and re-watching it it's so clear that's not the case but at the time I

39:11was willing to buy whatever narrative HBO was selling if someone had told me that what you're going to do

39:20is basically create a narrative television production in the style of a documentary and try to sell people

39:30on its reality even though we're making it as glamorous as possible I would have said no

39:37it is important that I feel my responsibility within it that if I denied my responsibility it would still

39:45be there but I would be lying about it so the fact that I feel guilty about it is there I there's nothing I

39:52can do about that when HBO first aired the series I really felt used because I knew Dennis was making

40:03money off of it and I didn't realize it would be so focused on just sex I knew we worked in a brothel

40:10but I was hoping it would have more of the relationships of the girls and how our lives were so I did feel

40:19bothered by the fact that Dennis and the HBO show used women as property to make money

40:26tune into the bunny ranch cat house on HB ho

40:33the cat house series over the next season or two began to attract younger women to the bunny ranch

40:53around the time that I caught a glimpse of cat house I was probably like 11 12 I think I was probably

41:04maybe 11 or 12 maybe and I would watch with the volume turned down low and I was like if it's that

41:11easy then you know I really want to think I want to try it he loved young girls these girls did not see what

41:19was coming HBO was glamorizing this life who's pimping who here it isn't this big sorority I didn't feel safe

41:30I've never ever seen anything like this before there are people that have died she's dead she's been

41:41dead for hours there are people that have been murdered four people found dead one of them was a

41:47prostitute and one of the stars of HBO's cat house Dennis told me that she was pregnant with his child it just

41:54blew up like an atomic bomb I'm gonna tell you the real story about the Lamar Odom party he should

42:02have known that stuff is not good but he wanted more I was like Lamar and I tried to shake him and

42:07he didn't do anything Lamar Odom overdosed and I didn't know what to do prostitution and it's not a job

42:17it is a nightmare I was literally having sex with strangers for nothing I was molested and beaten and

42:26raped by Dennis Hoff and some girls are still there Dennis was in this for Dennis Dennis was a rat bastard

42:37pimp he had no empathy

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