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00:00:00Eu acho que algo ruim vai acontecer para mim.

00:00:12Eu acho que algo ruim tem acontecido.

00:00:15Não tem me encerrado, mas está no seu caminho.

00:00:30Eu não sei porque é importante, como é que ajuda a pessoas a lidar com o seu perdimento,

00:00:35como se tornando com histórias sobre as coisas, ou o que é isso.

00:00:50Alice kept secrets.

00:00:52Ela...

00:00:54Ela...

00:00:55Ela kept secrets a secret.

00:01:00É difícil para algumas pessoas entender, mas você tem que acreditar que você está a blame, ou não há nada a manter.

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00:03:18So I stood up and looked out across the dam

00:03:26and the water was completely still

00:03:29So I called out

00:03:32I looked out over the water to see if I could see her

00:03:39And both the boys had kind of checked

00:03:44You know, the bushland behind

00:03:48I could see Alice's towel

00:03:51She'd left it on the ground

00:03:53And she clearly hadn't got out of the water

00:03:57Because then, you know, she would have picked up her towel

00:04:00So, yeah, that was the last time that I saw her

00:04:14Police continue to hold grave fears for 16-year-old Alice Palmer

00:04:31Who disappeared while picnicking with her family

00:04:33Police search and rescue divers...

00:04:35Oh, well, we were told to go home

00:04:37And, uh, if the search and rescue divers found anything

00:04:43Then they'd let us know immediately

00:04:44It felt very strange in the car on the way home

00:05:00Because there was one empty seat

00:05:01One minute she was there

00:05:04And then gone

00:05:07I went back to stay with the Palmers that night

00:05:13We were just mostly waiting

00:05:15Mostly waiting for news

00:05:17For bad news

00:05:20There was that expectation

00:05:23We got a call from Russell

00:05:25On his mobile

00:05:27About nine o'clock at night

00:05:28And he'd said there'd been

00:05:31An accident at the Weir

00:05:33And Alice had gone missing

00:05:35So we thought, well, we

00:05:38Better go to our rat

00:05:40I remember

00:05:41June was

00:05:43A bit funny about

00:05:45Seeing Iris

00:05:46There was a strange

00:05:47Feeling between them

00:05:49It felt a little strange

00:05:52Having my mother there

00:05:53Mum and I there for Alice

00:05:57It just didn't feel like

00:06:00The right order of things

00:06:01It was an awful, awful night

00:06:06Worst night of our lives

00:06:09I went into Alice's room

00:06:15Later that night

00:06:16And her phone went off

00:06:19A couple of times

00:06:21But I didn't

00:06:22I didn't answer it

00:06:23I remember the bed was made

00:06:31I remember thinking how neat

00:06:35Everything looked

00:06:36I got a call from Alice's mum, June

00:06:54She'd said that Alice was missing

00:06:58And presumed, like, she drowned

00:07:00And, like, I didn't not believe her

00:07:04But, I don't know

00:07:06I just, it was kind of hard to take

00:07:08So I actually called Alice's mobile

00:07:12I just, um, maybe wanted to see

00:07:17If, hope it was a joke or something

00:07:19I don't know

00:07:19It was a real shock

00:07:23Just didn't really feel like it was real

00:07:28Um, everything was the same

00:07:31As always

00:07:32But people were saying Alice had drowned

00:07:34Are there any memories

00:07:36From that night

00:07:37That stand out for you?

00:07:41I remember we had the porch light on

00:07:43Still two, actually

00:07:45Just in case

00:07:46And why's that?

00:07:49Just in case she comes home, I guess

00:08:00Just in case

00:08:30These divers located Alice's body

00:08:32At approximately 9.25pm

00:08:34They used sonar to locate her

00:08:36And she drifted some way

00:08:39And, uh, come to rest on a shelf

00:08:41At the bottom of the stormwater cistern

00:08:42In the dam

00:08:43Uh, obviously

00:08:45Contacted the family immediately

00:08:47As, uh, as soon as we were told

00:08:50That they'd found the body

00:08:51Uh, June and I went down to the dam

00:08:52Georgie came over to team that company

00:08:54It was all very official

00:08:57And, uh, formal

00:08:58They asked me to sign a statement

00:09:00Of identification

00:09:01June stayed in the car

00:09:03And, uh, on reflection

00:09:07I think that was a mistake

00:09:08Because, uh, she didn't have any closure

00:09:10I just couldn't bring myself

00:09:14To identify Alice's body

00:09:16She'd been underwater all that time

00:09:20And it

00:09:21I guess it's not how I, um

00:09:24I didn't want to remember her

00:09:27In that way

00:09:28I thought that was my responsibility

00:09:30As, as

00:09:32Ali's, uh, dad

00:09:34You know

00:09:34That's what

00:09:37Our father does

00:09:39The car stalled on the way back

00:10:00From the dam

00:10:01But the only gear

00:10:02That I could get it into

00:10:03Was reverse

00:10:04So

00:10:05We drove

00:10:07Back into town

00:10:08In reverse

00:10:08Which was either

00:10:10That or walk

00:10:11And, like, given everything

00:10:12That had happened

00:10:13Seemed like the better option

00:10:16Really

00:10:16The autopsy

00:10:29Was performed

00:10:30On the Monday

00:10:30The 27th

00:10:32Then the coroner

00:10:35Released the body

00:10:37On the

00:10:38Tuesday

00:10:39The 28th

00:10:40It was very strange

00:10:44Spending Christmas day

00:10:46With the family

00:10:47Up there

00:10:47While Alice

00:10:49Lay alone

00:10:50In the morgue

00:10:50I don't know

00:11:02It was just like

00:11:02I hadn't seen her

00:11:03For a week

00:11:03Or anything

00:11:04Like

00:11:04Yeah

00:11:06It didn't feel real

00:11:07Death takes everything

00:11:14Eventually

00:11:15It's the meanest

00:11:17Dumbest machine

00:11:18There is

00:11:18And it just keeps

00:11:19Coming

00:11:19And it doesn't care

00:11:20There's nothing else

00:11:24To know about it

00:11:24Really

00:11:24It was a somber day

00:11:30For the family

00:11:30And friends

00:11:31Of Alice Palmer

00:11:32Who gathered

00:11:33To pay their

00:11:33Final respects

00:11:34To a young woman

00:11:35Taken too soon

00:11:36She was a great person

00:11:38Very popular

00:11:39Clever

00:11:40Lovely

00:11:40Just

00:11:42Let it

00:11:43Yeah

00:11:43Alice is remembered

00:11:44As a happy

00:11:45Fun loving girl

00:11:46With a zest for life

00:11:48Described as

00:11:49Always putting

00:11:49Others

00:11:50Palmer's

00:11:50Really

00:11:51Doing it tough

00:11:52At that time

00:11:53I want to think

00:11:55Of how bad

00:11:55It was back then

00:11:56It's hard to imagine

00:11:59How much worse

00:12:00They would get

00:12:01Ten days after

00:12:15Ellie's funeral

00:12:16So that makes it

00:12:18The 15th of January

00:12:19Stuff started

00:12:20Happening around

00:12:20The house

00:12:21And noises

00:12:23In the roof

00:12:23And

00:12:25Sounds

00:12:27Coming from

00:12:28Outside the window

00:12:29And other

00:12:30Movements

00:12:31That seemed

00:12:32To come from

00:12:32Ellie's old room

00:12:33So we

00:12:36We rehung

00:12:38The door

00:12:38To Ellie's room

00:12:39And we got

00:12:40A pest controller

00:12:41To come in

00:12:42And check for

00:12:42Termites

00:12:43And

00:12:44It didn't help

00:12:46At all

00:12:46The door kept

00:12:47Slamming

00:12:47And we still

00:12:48Kept getting

00:12:48The noises

00:12:49From her room

00:12:50There was just

00:12:53Something weird

00:12:54About that house

00:12:55It had

00:12:56A fairly

00:12:57Strange feeling

00:12:58About it

00:12:59I mean

00:12:59I can't explain

00:13:00To you

00:13:00What it was

00:13:02Exactly

00:13:02But

00:13:03You'd go in there

00:13:04And just have

00:13:05This bad feeling

00:13:05Like in

00:13:06Your gut

00:13:07I started having

00:13:18These nightmares

00:13:19And they

00:13:21Were so distressing

00:13:23That sometimes

00:13:25I just wouldn't

00:13:26Want to

00:13:26Open my eyes

00:13:28I'd woken up

00:13:30But I didn't want

00:13:31To open my eyes

00:13:32There was one

00:13:34Particular one

00:13:35It was quite

00:13:36Vivid and

00:13:36Recurring

00:13:38Alice would

00:13:39Come down

00:13:40The hall

00:13:41Still dripping

00:13:42From the dam

00:13:43And just stand

00:13:45At the foot

00:13:46Of our bed

00:13:47Just staring

00:13:48At us

00:13:48It was

00:13:50Quite terrifying

00:13:52As I said

00:13:52I didn't want

00:13:53To open my eyes

00:13:54By early February

00:14:00My nightmares

00:14:01Were getting so bad

00:14:02That I began

00:14:03To go for walks

00:14:04At night

00:14:05Sometimes for hours

00:14:07At a time

00:14:07Just so that

00:14:09I didn't have

00:14:10To go to bed

00:14:10At night

00:14:11And close my eyes

00:14:12And go to sleep

00:14:13Sometimes I would

00:14:18Actually go into

00:14:19People's houses

00:14:20I didn't feel like

00:14:22I was doing

00:14:22Anything wrong

00:14:23I guess

00:14:25I really just

00:14:27Wanted to be

00:14:27Inside someone

00:14:28Else's life

00:14:29For a while

00:14:29Georgie do you

00:14:42Remember how

00:14:42Russell was

00:14:43Doing at the time

00:14:43Yeah Russell

00:14:45Was um

00:14:45He was working

00:14:47A lot

00:14:48At that point

00:14:49I think that

00:14:49Might have helped

00:14:50Him

00:14:50With his grief

00:14:51Ended through

00:14:53Without any

00:14:54Explanation

00:14:54Uh

00:14:55Russell and I

00:14:56Met actually

00:14:57On the

00:14:57Gippsland

00:14:58Catchment project

00:14:59In 98

00:14:59And worked together

00:15:01On that

00:15:01So you guys

00:15:02Have known each

00:15:03Other for a few

00:15:03Years

00:15:03Yeah

00:15:04Good few years

00:15:04Do you remember

00:15:08How he was affected

00:15:09After Alice's death

00:15:10What changed

00:15:11It was work as

00:15:13Normal

00:15:13And that was

00:15:16Troubling actually

00:15:17I didn't really know

00:15:18What to say to him

00:15:19About that

00:15:20You never spoke about it

00:15:22Not really

00:15:23Everyone grieves

00:15:25In their own way

00:15:26And it wasn't

00:15:27Really my place

00:15:28To be

00:15:28Telling him

00:15:30How to feel

00:15:31But I certainly

00:15:32I certainly

00:15:33Was concerned

00:15:34I was

00:15:37I was really

00:15:38Grateful

00:15:39That I had my work

00:15:40And I mean

00:15:41I felt really

00:15:41Guilty about that

00:15:42At the time

00:15:43But

00:15:44You know

00:15:45I just wanted

00:15:46To get on

00:15:46With it

00:15:47Then

00:15:51One night

00:15:53In late February

00:15:54I came home

00:15:55From work

00:15:56And I was

00:15:56Sitting in the

00:15:57Sitting in the

00:15:57Kitchen

00:15:58And I heard

00:16:00A noise

00:16:00Coming from

00:16:01Ali's room

00:16:02So I went

00:16:04Into Ali's room

00:16:05And I don't

00:16:07Really know why

00:16:08But I

00:16:08Sort of found

00:16:10Myself

00:16:10Sitting down

00:16:11In the chair

00:16:12In front of the

00:16:12Dresser

00:16:13And

00:16:13Before I could

00:16:16Kind of work out

00:16:16What I was doing

00:16:17There

00:16:17Ali walked in

00:16:19And she went

00:16:20Over to a desk

00:16:21And started

00:16:22Sharpening a pencil

00:16:23And then she

00:16:24Looked like she

00:16:25Was checking

00:16:26For a text message

00:16:28On her phone

00:16:29And you know

00:16:31I was completely

00:16:32Freaked out

00:16:33She was

00:16:35Completely

00:16:36Oblivious

00:16:37To my presence

00:16:38And then I

00:16:41Don't know

00:16:41What happened

00:16:41I must have

00:16:42Moved to bed

00:16:44Or you know

00:16:45Squeaked my shoes

00:16:46Or something

00:16:46But she went

00:16:47Completely rigid

00:16:48And

00:16:50I knew then

00:16:52That she knew

00:16:53I was there

00:16:54And she slowly

00:16:56Turned around

00:16:57And she looked

00:16:58Me right in the eye

00:16:59Fooey foo

00:17:01You know

00:17:01What felt like

00:17:02Forever

00:17:03And then she

00:17:05Just came at me

00:17:06And stood up

00:17:08And said

00:17:08Get out

00:17:09Get out

00:17:09And I just

00:17:10You know

00:17:11Cut up

00:17:12And went out

00:17:13As fast as I

00:17:13Could

00:17:13I could hear

00:17:16Russell crying

00:17:17And he was

00:17:18Here in the kitchen

00:17:19Matthew and I

00:17:20Both found him

00:17:20In here

00:17:21And he was

00:17:22Sobbing

00:17:23He was

00:17:23Absolutely

00:17:24Inconsolable

00:17:25Do you believe

00:17:26Russell

00:17:27When he says

00:17:27He saw a ghost

00:17:28Yeah I do

00:17:30I believe he saw

00:17:31What he saw

00:17:32And he wouldn't

00:17:35He's not the kind

00:17:36Of man to make

00:17:37Something up

00:17:38So I believe

00:17:39He saw something

00:17:40Whether it's

00:17:43A real ghost

00:17:44Or not

00:17:44I don't really know

00:17:46But I'm sure

00:17:47He saw something

00:17:48I remember

00:18:07Trying to talk

00:18:08To members

00:18:09Of the church

00:18:11About how

00:18:12To help

00:18:12June

00:18:13And how

00:18:13To help

00:18:14The palmers

00:18:14But

00:18:16There just

00:18:16Didn't seem

00:18:17Like there was

00:18:18Anything

00:18:18We could do

00:18:19I think

00:18:21Part of the reason

00:18:22Was because

00:18:23They weren't

00:18:23Churchgoers

00:18:24They

00:18:24Didn't know

00:18:26How to offer

00:18:26Them comfort

00:18:27I don't even

00:18:31Know what

00:18:32June believes

00:18:32In

00:18:32I found myself

00:18:35Mostly concerned

00:18:36About Matthew

00:18:37I guess because

00:18:40Those two

00:18:40Were always so

00:18:41Close

00:18:41I was worried

00:18:43How he would

00:18:44Cope

00:18:44I remember

00:18:53He was

00:18:54Spending a lot

00:18:55More time

00:18:55Alone

00:18:56Oh we were

00:18:58All worried

00:18:59About him

00:18:59Matthew came

00:19:05In with some

00:19:06Unusual bruises

00:19:07On his body

00:19:08They were unusual

00:19:09In terms of their

00:19:10Distribution

00:19:11And depth

00:19:11We obviously

00:19:14Took a history

00:19:16Trying to exclude

00:19:17Trauma

00:19:17But there was

00:19:18Certainly no

00:19:19History of trauma

00:19:19That he was able

00:19:21To give us

00:19:21We tested him

00:19:22For vasculitis

00:19:23And we also

00:19:24Excluded any

00:19:25Poisoning or

00:19:26Toxins in his

00:19:27System

00:19:27We were unable

00:19:29To turn up

00:19:29Anything conclusive

00:19:30And several

00:19:32Weeks after

00:19:33This

00:19:33The bruises

00:19:35Just resolved

00:19:36Spontaneously

00:19:36And we were

00:19:38Never able

00:19:38To really

00:19:39Establish

00:19:40A cause

00:19:40For them

00:19:41My name

00:19:44Is Steve

00:19:44Wilkie

00:19:45I'm Matthew's

00:19:46Best friend

00:19:47I usually

00:19:49Stay at

00:19:50Matthew's

00:19:50House

00:19:50Two or

00:19:50Three times

00:19:51A week

00:19:51We

00:19:55Started a

00:19:56Band

00:19:56Together

00:19:56So

00:19:57We normally

00:19:58Play music

00:19:59At my

00:20:00House

00:20:00Matthew

00:20:02Seems

00:20:02Seemed a

00:20:03Bit quieter

00:20:03But

00:20:04He was

00:20:05Always

00:20:05Pretty quiet

00:20:06So

00:20:06I guess

00:20:07There wasn't

00:20:08Really

00:20:08Any warning

00:20:09Bells

00:20:09Going off

00:20:10Or anything

00:20:10Although

00:20:11I had heard

00:20:12About June

00:20:13Going into

00:20:14People's

00:20:14Houses

00:20:14And Matthew

00:20:15Never really

00:20:16Seemed to

00:20:16Want to

00:20:16Talk about

00:20:17Any of

00:20:17That

00:20:17I never

00:20:18I never

00:20:18Asked him

00:20:19About

00:20:19Any of

00:20:19It

00:20:19I know

00:20:26That he

00:20:26Was always

00:20:26Interested

00:20:27In

00:20:27Photography

00:20:28And

00:20:29He

00:20:29Was

00:20:29At

00:20:30This

00:20:31Time

00:20:31He

00:20:31Was

00:20:31Starting

00:20:31To

00:20:32Pursue

00:20:33It

00:20:33With

00:20:33More

00:20:33Passion

00:20:34Matthew

00:20:39Came to

00:20:40Me

00:20:40He

00:20:40Was

00:20:41Very

00:20:41Keen

00:20:42To

00:20:42Find

00:20:42Anything

00:20:42About

00:20:43Photography

00:20:43So

00:20:43I

00:20:44Was

00:20:44More

00:20:44Than

00:20:45Willing

00:20:45To

00:20:45Help

00:20:46Out

00:20:46That's

00:20:46What

00:20:47I

00:20:47Do

00:20:47So

00:20:47I

00:20:48Was

00:20:48Picking

00:20:48My

00:20:48Brains

00:20:49About

00:20:49Just

00:20:49About

00:20:49Anything

00:20:50To

00:20:50Do

00:20:50With

00:20:50It

00:20:50From

00:20:51Equipment

00:20:52Down

00:20:52To

00:20:52Techniques

00:20:53Down

00:20:53To

00:20:53Lighting

00:20:54He

00:20:54Was

00:20:56A

00:20:56Great

00:20:56Asset

00:20:56I

00:20:56Mean

00:20:56Eventually

00:20:57I

00:20:57Employed

00:20:58Him

00:20:58I

00:21:25Can

00:21:25You

00:21:25Talk

00:21:25To

00:21:25me about the photographs of the backyard that you've been taking I yeah

00:21:32basically I've taken that same photo with that composition for having every

00:21:38three months for the past four years and it's just a photograph of the backyard

00:21:43looking out you can see the hills in the distance it's just like a little

00:21:47project that I set up for myself when we got here and what was in the April 28

00:21:53photograph that was different well it's basically the same shot but it would

00:22:03appear that Alice is standing against the fence

00:22:16do you remember what the reaction in the house was at the time I wouldn't say the

00:22:21mood was good but it was better than before it was like like it gave us sort of

00:22:29something to focus on I think all of us

00:22:33I don't I don't whether the photographs were taken on the third of April and they

00:22:39were developed on the fourth and I looked at them I think on the fifth and looked

00:22:46at the dams and the water levels and I was quite happy but it was only the

00:22:51following night that it was ported out to me by my wife that there was something

00:22:54in the background in Norval Dam this image came up

00:22:59but when I first looked at the photograph I didn't know what to make of it the image

00:23:16was quite unsettling because it certainly looked like Alice it was an incredibly

00:23:24discomforting image

00:23:30and I became convinced that Alice was still alive

00:23:33I didn't have any rational explanation for who was in those photos but I did know something about

00:23:49Alice that June didn't I I'd seen Alice's body I didn't think she was alive I knew she wasn't

00:24:00I became convinced that Russell had made a mistake he himself said that it didn't look like anybody anymore

00:24:09Jen was so convinced that I'd made a mistake that I actually started to have doubts myself

00:24:15I started to think maybe

00:24:18I'd made my mind up that it was Alice's body before you know I'd looked and

00:24:26that the circumstances was so compelling for me that I decided that it was her

00:24:33more than three months after the funeral of Ararat teenager Alice Palmer her grieving parents

00:24:41formally requested her body be exhumed from the general cemetery there has been some contention

00:24:47from the Palmer family about the accuracy of the original body identification June and Russell

00:24:52Palmer were adamant that DNA testing be carried out they just couldn't be sure that the body they

00:24:58identified was indeed Alice Alice's body was exhumed in the presence of the funeral director

00:25:04Dr. Slatter and there was a representative from the coroner's of the suicide and it was then

00:25:10transported to Ararat base hospital where they took the DNA samples and she stayed there until the

00:25:16the results came back

00:25:18a few days later we received a copy of the coroner's preliminary report and Alice's identity was confirmed

00:25:31by the DNA sample match

00:25:34it was only after they confirmed that it was Alice's body that I realized how much that I'd invested in the

00:25:43the possibility of it not being her no I can't tell you how much I wanted there to have been a terrible

00:25:52mistake even if it had been mine really really wanted there to have been somebody else's kid in

00:25:59that dam a runaway a murder victim just anybody else's just as long as it wasn't my kid just as long as it

00:26:07as it wasn't Alice

00:26:27yes it is

00:26:35yes

00:26:52Alice was reburied two days later on the 7th of June

00:26:58but the question remained who or what was in those photos

00:27:05well i continued to hear things and um what did you hear i was hearing noises sort of they didn't really relent i kept hearing noises in the hallway

00:27:24Bem, eu continuo a ouvir coisas e, um...

00:27:29O que você ouviu?

00:27:29Eu estava ouvindo noises, de forma que eu não me engano, eu estava ouvindo noises em

00:27:34a sala, então eu pensei, eu vou fazer uma câmera para ver se eu vejo algo, se vejo algo.

00:27:54O que você ouviu?

00:28:24O que você ouviu?

00:28:54Eu já ouviu Ray on the radio over the years, e a opinião foi dividida.

00:29:00Some thought he was the real deal, others were unconvinced.

00:29:04Next we have Annie on the line.

00:29:06Hi Annie, how are you?

00:29:08Thanks Ray, thank you for taking my call.

00:29:10My pleasure, what can I do for you?

00:29:13Um, I just want to do a general reading.

00:29:17General, not just medical.

00:29:19I'm Hungarian by birth.

00:29:21My parents came out here when I was quite young.

00:29:23I've got a 15 year old daughter who lives with a mother in South Australia.

00:29:27My Christian name is actually Cholt, but I changed it to Ray.

00:29:31I think it's a more trustworthy name for a psychic.

00:29:35Australia's wog psychic of choice.

00:29:42Most of what I do when I'm dealing with the sick or the dying, which I guess probably fits

00:29:50about a third of my clients is to allow them the possibility that death is not the bitter end, that it's not the full stop.

00:30:00Which is a consolation that I'm quite happy to give them considering the fact that what happens after death is up for grabs anyway.

00:30:08There's somebody very close to you, someone you haven't seen for a while.

00:30:14Someone who is going to come back into your life.

00:30:17Someone who will be of great comfort to you.

00:30:20I don't know.

00:30:22Anyone that fits that pill?

00:30:24Um, yeah I can, I can think of someone.

00:30:27Look, I won't lie to you Annie, I can see obstacles ahead of you, but I think that this person who's coming back to you is going to make a great difference and will be of great solace to you.

00:30:37Thanks Ray.

00:30:40See you Annie.

00:30:42Where I come from, when someone dies they block out all the mirrors in the house to stop the dead from finding their way back.

00:31:06There's things like that that make a difference.

00:31:09Hi Annie. I'm Ray.

00:31:13Come on.

00:31:14Come on.

00:31:15Come on.

00:31:16Come on.

00:31:17Come on.

00:31:18Come on.

00:31:19Come on.

00:31:20Come on.

00:31:21Come on.

00:31:22Come on.

00:31:23Come on.

00:31:24This is the end of your pain.

00:31:25Okay?

00:31:26You're going to die in here.

00:31:27It's just the start of something else.

00:31:28Fine.

00:31:29You're going to die in here.

00:31:30It's just the start of something else.

00:31:31Fine.

00:31:32You're going to die in here.

00:31:33It's just the start of something else.

00:31:38Fine.

00:31:39Okay.

00:31:40You look at me.

00:31:41I liked Ray immediately.

00:31:42Eu gostei de Ray imediatamente.

00:31:51Ele não era o que eu esperava, não era o que eu realmente esperava.

00:31:55Mas, ah, não era nada esposo ou fake sobre ele.

00:32:10Ok.

00:32:11Ok.

00:32:12Ok, ready?

00:32:13Uh-huh.

00:32:16I want you to close your eyes.

00:32:18I usually videotape my sessions so that they can be reviewed later by the clients.

00:32:23Especially when there's elements of trance or hypnotism involved.

00:32:28I keep one copy for myself, one copy for them.

00:32:31Better to be safe than sorry.

00:32:33Ok, so you're standing outside your house.

00:32:37Tell me what you see.

00:32:41Mm-hmm.

00:32:44My house.

00:32:45It's a white house.

00:32:48I'm walking towards the front door.

00:32:50Ok.

00:32:51Now I want you to go inside the house.

00:32:54I want you to move slowly through the house.

00:32:56I want you to describe what you see.

00:32:59Where you are.

00:33:00Just give me a guided tour.

00:33:03Ok.

00:33:04I'm walking down the hallway towards Alice's room.

00:33:10What's there?

00:33:11I can see Alice's shoes outside her room.

00:33:17And what does that mean for you, Jane?

00:33:18She always used to leave her sneakers outside her room.

00:33:23So I want you to go inside her room now.

00:33:24Open the door.

00:33:25I want you to go inside her room now.

00:33:26Open the door.

00:33:27I can see Alice's shoes outside her room.

00:33:28What's there?

00:33:29I can see Alice's shoes outside her room.

00:33:33Okay.

00:33:43And what does that mean for you, Jane?

00:33:44She always used to leave her sneakers outside her room.

00:33:47So I want you to go inside your room now, open the door and just move inside, you feel safe enough to go into Alice's room.

00:34:01Ok.

00:34:03Open the door.

00:34:08I'm going inside her room.

00:34:17You can see something, can't you? Tell me what you see, Jen.

00:34:32She's...

00:34:35Alice is sitting in the wicked chair at the end of her bed.

00:34:47She looks sad.

00:34:56I first met Ray when June brought him home for dinner the night of her first consultation.

00:35:03And, you know, I'm completely indifferent to psychics, I don't really have a position on them at all.

00:35:08I don't really want them to come round for dinner, mind you, but you know, I didn't want to upset June either.

00:35:14He was a pleasant sort of a bloke, he wasn't icky spooky at all, and I was on my best behaviour.

00:35:22A few days later, maybe a week later, I suggested to the family that we hold a seance.

00:35:29June was really keen, but I remember Russell just flat out refused.

00:35:34I think Matthew finally talked his dad around.

00:35:36Matthew, how did you feel about having a seance held in your house?

00:35:40Um, at the time I was actually kind of interested, sort of curious.

00:35:48I don't think Dad was thrilled about the idea.

00:35:52But, yeah, I thought it would be interesting.

00:35:56And, um, I suggested we film it.

00:36:00And, um, I recorded it just with our, uh, video camera, which is the PC9.

00:36:08I'm getting a strong presence in the room.

00:36:12In the house.

00:36:13I think we all thought that the seance was a failure.

00:36:20Um, Ray didn't really come up with anything, kind of with any signs or anything.

00:36:26So, um, after about an hour or so, we called it quits.

00:36:30And, um, it wasn't until the next day that, um, uh, Matthew was reviewing the, um, the footage that, uh, there was an image of Alice.

00:36:39Make your presence known to us.

00:37:03Uh, the new footage was, um, completely different to the hallway footage.

00:37:07For, for one, it was significantly more detailed, so it was less ambiguous.

00:37:13And, uh, it was impossible to dismiss it as a, you know, a coincidence of shadow play and digital noise.

00:37:25There was something inexplicable in our house that was beyond doubt.

00:37:34I was concerned.

00:37:37This was pretty unfamiliar territory for me.

00:37:41I've never seen a ghost before.

00:37:42Uh, Ray got, uh, Matthew to help him set up three permanent cameras inside the house, recording in time-lapse configurations, 24 hours a day.

00:37:44Uh, Ray got, uh, Matthew to help him set up three permanent cameras inside the house, recording in time-lapse configurations, 24 hours a day.

00:37:48Uh, there'd been a lot of speculation about Ray.

00:37:49Um, and, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:50And, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:51And, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:52And, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:53Uh, and, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:54And, um, what he was doing there.

00:37:55And...

00:37:56I mean, when, when people don't know, of course, it leads to a lot of talk.

00:37:57Uh, there was a lot of speculation about Ray.

00:37:58Música

00:38:00Ray got Matthew to help him set up three permanent cameras inside the house

00:38:06Recording in time-lapse configurations 24 hours a day

00:38:11There'd been a lot of speculation about Ray

00:38:14And what he was doing there

00:38:18When people don't know

00:38:20Of course it leads to a lot of talk and a lot of speculation

00:38:24I had heard rumours throughout July of video images purporting to be of an apparition in the house

00:38:31But I must say I was sceptical as to their legitimacy

00:38:36And your view on Ray?

00:38:39Also very sceptical

00:38:41I think they had met some kind of Rasputin figure

00:38:44Mesmerising the Palmers, stealing their money, doctoring the photos of Alice

00:38:48Happy birthday to you

00:38:52Matthew in particular seemed to be really struggling

00:38:55I thought I might be able to help just by being there

00:39:05That said, my chief motivation was professional

00:39:12Something was happening inside that house and I wanted to find out what it was

00:39:15That said, my humble nice

00:39:27Something was happening, it's such a loud power

00:39:33Is someone what it was going to do

00:39:35Is someone who was walking and trying to get out of the house

00:39:38When you haven't been in the house

00:39:39I was looking to have a good place

00:39:40I had to balance my body

00:39:42At this time

00:39:43A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:13A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:43A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:45A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:47A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:51A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:53A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:55A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:40:59A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:01A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:03A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:05A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:07A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:09A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:11A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:13A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:15A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:17A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:19A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:21A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:23A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:25A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:27A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:29A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:31A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:33A CIDADE NO BRASIL

00:41:35que havia sido descrubido em sua foto.

00:41:38E então nós olhamos mais closely, e, um...

00:41:41e, então, Doug zoomed-in.

00:41:42Sim, eu fui lá no computador,

00:41:46e, com o que poderia ter olhado como um female figure

00:41:50de um longo prazo,

00:41:53um, perto e perto,

00:41:55você pode ver que não era nem uma mulher,

00:41:58não era Alice.

00:42:00Era Matthew.

00:42:02Do you guys believe in ghosts?

00:42:05No.

00:42:07No.

00:42:08No.

00:42:11Well, this is where I was when the Bob Smeet photo was taken,

00:42:14and I was wearing Alice's jacket,

00:42:17and I looked up and I saw a man on the hill

00:42:20who turned out to be Bob Smeet,

00:42:22and, um, he didn't want to be in a photo,

00:42:26so I walked off through the, uh, the bush.

00:42:30What I didn't see was there was also a couple over there, uh, filming,

00:42:34who turned out to be the Withers.

00:42:41When the Withers thing came out,

00:42:43Dad came to me and asked me

00:42:45if I'd been involved in anything else,

00:42:47and I didn't want to lie to him,

00:42:49so I told him.

00:42:59I explained to Dad that I was responsible for the image

00:43:02of Alice in the hallway, uh, and the bedroom,

00:43:05and that I created the April 28 backyard photo

00:43:09and, um, composited, uh, the images.

00:43:11That's a photo that I took of Alice.

00:43:12Mum kept, uh, talking about,

00:43:14she was always talking about getting Alice exhumed,

00:43:16and she was really, uh, she was really keen on this idea

00:43:18that Dad had misidentified her body.

00:43:20and so I knew that without more evidence

00:43:22it wasn't going to happen,

00:43:23so I, I made the photograph.

00:43:27I just used an old video of Alice.

00:43:32And I played that on the TV.

00:43:34I had the TV up on the bookcase,

00:43:37and it was as simple as rotating the mirror.

00:43:39and, um, I just used an old video of Alice.

00:43:42You're gonna laugh.

00:43:43And I played that on the TV.

00:43:48I had the TV up on the bookcase,

00:43:50and it was as simple as rotating the mirror.

00:43:53e era simples como rotando a mirra,

00:43:57então a reflexão da TV veio em mim,

00:44:00e obviamente a mirra é muito pequena,

00:44:03então eu cortei os edges da televisão,

00:44:05e então eu filmo isso.

00:44:07A mesma coisa com a casa e a bedroom,

00:44:09o que você vê, basicamente, é a Alice,

00:44:11na televisão, na mirra.

00:44:23Assim, não é sobre o que eu estou tentando de fazer pessoas,

00:44:28eu acho que algo era melhor do que nada.

00:44:31Você acha que o que você fez,

00:44:33fez isso pior para a gente?

00:44:38Um...

00:44:42Eu acho que...

00:44:45Eu acho que,

00:44:47eu provavelmente,

00:44:48fez isso mais difícil para ela,

00:44:50mas não foi minha intenção.

00:44:55Eu...

00:44:57Não...

00:44:58muito bem sobre o que ele disse.

00:45:01Eu não sei que eu...

00:45:05totalmente...

00:45:10Eu não quero dizer que eu...

00:45:12não sei o que ele disse,

00:45:14mas...

00:45:15eu não sei que ele realmente sabe,

00:45:19porque ele realmente sabe por que ele fez isso.

00:45:27Quando tudo começou,

00:45:28as pessoas queriam fazer stories,

00:45:30e livros,

00:45:31e livros,

00:45:32e livros,

00:45:33e a whole lot,

00:45:34e a whole lot,

00:45:35foi peir-shaped.

00:45:37Ah, olha,

00:45:38nós não conseguimos saber como fazer isso.

00:45:39Eu, eu,

00:45:40eu,

00:45:41eu,

00:45:42eu,

00:45:43eu,

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00:46:32eu,

00:46:33eu,

00:46:34eu,

00:46:35Ela é interessante, ela parece que não conseguisse com o Dune tão bem.

00:46:47Eu acho que eles realmente eram muito alunos.

00:46:49É interessante que o dois não conseguisse com o Dune tão bem.

00:46:55Eles sempre sempre sejam muito alunos.

00:46:58Você pode ver que Alice took muito depois de Dune,

00:47:02mas também outras coisas que foram feitas depois de Alice.

00:47:08A sensação de a privada que ambos sejam.

00:47:17Dune, ela ainda é, ela se mantém a própria.

00:47:23E então foi claro que isso aconteceu com Alice, também.

00:47:28A sensação de privacidade.

00:47:30A sensação de que há sua própria vida privada.

00:47:34Que eles vão entregar ou não compartilhar, eu acho.

00:47:39Ela é maravilhosa quando os filhos chegam,

00:47:45e essa nova expressão que vocês têm.

00:47:49Mas, como mãe, você sempre tem dúvida

00:47:53de que você não está fazendo o suficiente,

00:47:56ou que você não está fazendo o certo.

00:48:00Partido me culpando.

00:48:01Isso veio de mim.

00:48:03Ou talvez ele veio de minha mamãe.

00:48:09Eu não夕i um…

00:48:10Eu nunca trai nem consegui.

00:48:15Eu não posso ter pres05 até Couldno.

00:48:16Para aтора melhor aيم e de uma perda,

00:48:19Eu acho que June é um pouco assim, também.

00:48:25Que ela não podia dar-lhe-se wholly à Alice.

00:48:37Eu esperava que Alice sabia como eu amo ela.

00:48:41Eu acho que eu me lembro de volta um pouco.

00:48:45Ela seria mais feliz porque...

00:48:49Ela seria uma coisa.

00:48:51Ela seria uma coisa que ela não havíamos conhecido.

00:49:01Ele sugere que Mathew acompanhe ele em um,

00:49:06um, um, Televictoria tours,

00:49:08quando ele estava fazendo consultas,

00:49:10e, um, Mathew jumped at a chance.

00:49:15É o seu chão, eu acho.

00:49:18Ah, não, eu acho que é o seu chão.

00:49:35Eu acho que eu percebi quando eu estava lá,

00:49:39como eu meiai Dallis.

00:49:42E eu não ia ser capaz de falar com ela.

00:49:45Eu acho que é algo que todos os meus clientes estão se tornando com.

00:49:52Eles querem falar com alguém ou se encontrar com alguém que tinha perdido.

00:49:57E então eu.

00:50:00Então eu era um dos meus clientes também.

00:50:10Não.

00:50:12Vamos ver o que vai acontecer.

00:50:14O que você acha que vai acontecer?

00:50:15É isso que vai acontecer.

00:50:15E aí eu vou ficar me, e aí eu vou ficar angry.

00:50:17É o que vai acontecer.

00:50:18Não!

00:50:20Watch yourself.

00:50:22Você está em meu quarto.

00:50:25Não, não.

00:50:32Não, não.

00:50:35Não, não.

00:50:40Quando me e Ray went no tour,

00:50:53nós deixamos os dois caminhos onde eles estavam na sala,

00:50:56eu estava seguro que havia ainda algo no casa.

00:51:02E obviamente, porque nós ficamos em casa por três dias,

00:51:04nós não conseguimos mudar os filmes ou nada,

00:51:07então, quando nós tínhamos um dia e meio de filmes,

00:51:13mas nós deixamos os filmes e voltamos para o dia 22 de outubro,

00:51:19no momento, nós fechamos os filmes.

00:51:37O que é que o Russell e eu estávamos na casa quando esses imagens foram gravados.

00:51:51Mathew não tinha nada que fazer com eles.

00:51:56Eles parecem que há um espírito na casa.

00:52:01Alice's ghost.

00:52:07Do you believe in ghosts?

00:52:14Eu não use to, mas é uma coisa difícil de provar ou desprudar.

00:52:26Eu acho...

00:52:28Sim, eu acho que talvez eles existam.

00:52:32Os útos estão todos os lugares.

00:52:37É um mundo escuro.

00:52:40Eu não sei porque é importante...

00:52:41Como é que eles ajudam as pessoas...

00:52:43Com a história de vocês sobre os ghosts ou o que eu vou.

00:52:47It threw a question mark over everything

00:52:55I went back and reviewed all the footage that had come before

00:52:59All the material taken inside the house following Alice's death

00:53:03It was while I was looking at Matthew's June 13 hallway material again

00:53:14That I noticed something in the image

00:53:17There was a second figure, not Matthew in the hallway

00:53:21But someone else squatting in the dark in Alice's room

00:53:25At first I thought it was Alice

00:53:28Then I realised it was our neighbour

00:53:33Brett Toohey

00:53:42What was this man doing in my house

00:53:45In my daughter's room

00:53:47More than six months after her death

00:53:49When I found Alice's safe

00:53:58I realised exactly why he'd been there

00:54:01He was looking for the tape

00:54:06That's it

00:54:11That's it

00:54:24I don't know

00:54:24I think we should be among all the great actors

00:54:27Even if we dellwerd

00:54:28And then I thought to me

00:54:29But, I noticed that

00:54:29It looked really good

00:54:31Not the old, it looked at me

00:54:31Let's get on

00:54:32Paul's

00:54:36Ela começou a babysitter para os Tuis em 2002

00:54:52e ela continuou para o próximo 2.5 anos.

00:54:56Os Tuis dois filhos foram 5 e 9 anos.

00:54:59Eu não consegui acreditar nisso.

00:55:06Eu não consegui acreditar nisso.

00:55:08Eu não consegui acreditar nisso.

00:55:12Eu não consegui acreditar nisso.

00:55:20Para mim, os Tuis foram complicitos em Elie.

00:55:24Eu acredito que se não fosse para ela,

00:55:26ela teria sido para nós.

00:55:28Ela não teria se sentado culpabilidade.

00:55:30Ela teria se sentado por esse secret.

00:55:34Ela teria se sentado isolado.

00:55:40Como você se sente para o Brent?

00:55:43Se ele fosse por um lado,

00:55:44eu teria se sentado por ele.

00:55:47Ele era um bom homem.

00:55:49Ele era um bom homem.

00:55:51Ele era um homem que...

00:55:52Ele era um homem que...

00:55:53Ele era um homem que nunca era um homem.

00:55:57Ele tinha um...

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00:58:12Elis left so many unanswered questions.

00:58:14Why was she involved with them?

00:58:17When did the relationship begin?

00:58:19Was she in love with either of them?

00:58:25I just don't know.

00:58:30The two who sold their house are moved six months after Alice died.

00:58:42Alice kept secrets.

00:58:47She kept the fact she kept secrets a secret.

00:58:53Which does change the way that you see somebody, I suppose,

00:58:56when you realise that they did hide things from you a bit.

00:59:01I think I knew one Alice and maybe her mum knew another

00:59:06and there was another one again that none of us knew.

00:59:09Maybe.

00:59:12I found Ray's business card taped to Alice's diary

00:59:27on the page marked 12th of July 2005.

00:59:36Why have you come to see me, Alice?

00:59:38Can you interpret dreams?

00:59:40Hmm? Sometimes.

00:59:43How do you feel when you wake up from these dreams?

00:59:47Um...

00:59:51They scare me a bit.

00:59:52Alice came to see me about five months before she died.

00:59:55I think she'd heard me on the radio a few times

00:59:58and rang and made an appointment.

01:00:00Take a deep breath, close your eyes.

01:00:03I want you to imagine you're standing outside your house

01:00:05when you can see that you tell me.

01:00:08Okay?

01:00:09Yeah.

01:00:10All right.

01:00:11I want you to go inside the front door.

01:00:14Go into the house.

01:00:15Tell me what you see, where you are.

01:00:16Ray, why did you tell Jane that you'd actually met Alice before?

01:00:21Um, I'm in the...

01:00:22Look, I don't think it was a case of hiding something from them.

01:00:36It was more that I was honouring Alice's request for confidentiality.

01:00:41It was damned if you do, damned if you don't, you know.

01:00:44The living room's just...

01:00:46It's directly ahead.

01:00:48Then you go to your right.

01:00:50And my room's in the back part of the house

01:00:53as you go towards the kitchen.

01:00:54Do you see anything unusual or anything different?

01:01:02No.

01:01:04No, we didn't feel like we could trust Ray anymore.

01:01:07Um, for whatever reasons he had,

01:01:10keeping that information to himself,

01:01:11it still felt like a betrayal.

01:01:19I wanted to help June and the family

01:01:21and I think they wanted me to help them.

01:01:25I wouldn't have been able to do it if I'd known.

01:01:29There was a fair bit of resentment.

01:01:31Matthew wouldn't even speak to me.

01:01:33But what I think really hurt them more than anything

01:01:35was what they saw as my failure

01:01:38to see Alice's imminent passing.

01:01:42Looking back, like, it's kind of strange

01:01:45that someone would, you know,

01:01:48be as close to us as he was.

01:01:50Um...

01:01:52I think maybe he needed us as much as we needed him.

01:01:55Alice came to see me because she was upset.

01:02:11She was a very troubled person.

01:02:14I had a dream last night.

01:02:19I was cold and wet.

01:02:21I felt heavy, like I'd been drunk.

01:02:24And when I woke up, these sensations didn't go.

01:02:28I was feeling sick and confused,

01:02:30and I was starting to get scared.

01:02:35I needed to see Mum to talk to her.

01:02:39I stumbled to her room

01:02:41and as I stood there at the bed watching them,

01:02:45I was overcome by this intense sadness.

01:02:48Then the sadness turned to fear.

01:02:51I just stood there paralysed with fear

01:02:53and I realised there was nothing that they could do for me anymore.

01:02:58I've never felt so utterly alone.

01:03:01Everything felt wrong.

01:03:03My body...

01:03:05The way things looked.

01:03:08Then I realised that there was something wrong with me.

01:03:11I started to cry standing there at the foot of the bed.

01:03:41Lake Mungo is in southwestern New South Wales

01:03:53and that was the location of the school camp

01:03:56that Alice went on from August the 2nd to the 5th in 2005.

01:04:04When she came home she said she'd had a good time.

01:04:07I do particularly remember it

01:04:08because she came home without her mobile phone,

01:04:12which we'd bought her a month previously,

01:04:15and her favourite bracelet and watch.

01:04:20Yes, other than that, you know,

01:04:23she didn't really talk about it too much.

01:04:25Oh, my God!

01:04:27Wait, bye!

01:04:31I'm already on this before.

01:04:33Say hello.

01:04:35Well, Kim didn't show me until about a year after she got back from camp,

01:04:38the stuff that she'd taken on her mobile phone.

01:04:41So why did you decide to tell June?

01:04:43Um, well, if we...

01:04:46if we didn't tell June, then it would be like we were hiding something.

01:04:48So...

01:04:50I don't know why, um...

01:04:52I don't know why, but...

01:04:54why not?

01:04:56Jason told us about the phone footage that the girls had taken at Lake Mungo.

01:04:58The other girls were looking so happy and she looked quite forlorn.

01:05:11I was worried. I... I... I became convinced that something had happened to her.

01:05:35So just get a little bit...

01:05:37Kate's phone footage was taken later that night

01:05:40once the girls had spread out over the lunettes.

01:05:43Anywhere.

01:05:45Like...

01:05:47Like...

01:05:49Africa, like the desert.

01:05:51There was an image of Alice, very hard to decipher,

01:05:55in the bottom of the frame, kneeling under a tree.

01:06:00It was only after viewing the clip several times

01:06:02that we realised what she was doing.

01:06:04She was burying something.

01:06:10I mean, did you know what had happened that night with Alice?

01:06:14No.

01:06:16Um...

01:06:18I knew she'd lost her phone.

01:06:21I knew she was upset.

01:06:23Because that was pretty obvious.

01:06:25But I didn't know why she was upset.

01:06:29She didn't say that she'd seen anything.

01:06:31She didn't really say anything to me.

01:06:33I didn't really, perhaps, take it that seriously at the time.

01:06:37You know, it was like context, you know.

01:06:40We were just having a good time and I just thought she had gotten a bit upset.

01:06:43And...

01:06:44It started, simply enough, um, Alice left the group and started walking off by herself.

01:07:00But it was obviously something was distressing her.

01:07:09And we wanted to try and find out what it was.

01:07:13We understood from the phone video that she'd buried something.

01:07:18We had an idea where that tree was because of what we could see from the, from the video.

01:07:31We didn't really want to go down during the daytime because, you know, we didn't want to be digging, you know, where tourists were.

01:07:50So we decided to go at night.

01:07:53So we decided to go at night.

01:07:57So we decided to go at night.

01:08:11Então, June e eu começamos a digging e depois de um pouco, June disse que ela encontrou algo e tirou uma bagagem de plástico.

01:08:23E dentro da bagagem de plástico, aliás, a mensagem, a watch, a mobile phone,

01:08:31ela era uma coisa mais preciosa,

01:08:35ela era em um campo de campos,

01:08:39e nós não sabia que ela era.

01:08:42Nós vimos em uma vídeo que ela tinha que ter um pouco,

01:08:45mas nós não sabia o que era.

01:09:01Não, não.

01:09:11Você está com medo de morrer?

01:09:15Sim, claro que eu estou com medo.

01:09:17Não está tudo com medo?

01:09:25Você quer me dizer algo sobre o que acontece em todos os seus dreams?

01:09:31I feel like something bad is going to happen to me.

01:09:36I feel like something bad has happened.

01:09:39It hasn't reached me yet, but it's on its way.

01:09:45And it's getting closer.

01:09:49And I don't feel ready.

01:09:51I feel like I can't do anything.

01:10:01At some point, this figure came towards her from out of the darkness.

01:10:15I recognised the face as soon as I saw it on the phone video.

01:10:19It was the same face of the body that I had identified at the dam.

01:10:25It was Ellie's body and Ellie's face.

01:10:31There is absolutely no rational explanation

01:10:40for what she saw on that phone.

01:10:45Stay far away from me.

01:11:05I'm doing it.

01:11:06Oh my god.

01:11:08This is Babi.

01:11:32Fρώ.

01:11:32I am convinced that Alice knew she was going to die.

01:11:50I'm convinced of that.

01:11:54I think the figure at Lake Mungo was an omen for her.

01:11:58The burial of her possessions was symbolic, it was a ritual.

01:12:09No, I was never convinced that Alice believed she was going to die.

01:12:13She had morbid thoughts, sure, I mean, who doesn't?

01:12:17And, you know, she had nightmares that upset her enough to consult Ray.

01:12:21I don't know that anybody's really convinced that they're going to die.

01:12:33And what about the image of the Lake Mungo?

01:12:35How do you think Alice would have explained that?

01:12:38How could she have explained it?

01:12:39I think Alice saw a ghost.

01:12:50But she wasn't to know that it was her own.

01:12:54I believe she recorded a ghost.

01:12:56I believe she recorded the future coming to get her.

01:13:00We found out about the Tuwys, Ray, what had happened at Lake Mungo.

01:13:23And by the time I returned home, the house felt different.

01:13:31It was, um, calm.

01:13:35I think that Alice wanted us to know more about her.

01:13:51She wanted us to know who she really was.

01:13:56Before she, you know, before she could leave.

01:14:00In the weeks and months after Lake Mungo,

01:14:10we started to feel like a family again.

01:14:14Um, it just crept up on us, really.

01:14:17We were all a little battered and wobbly,

01:14:21but we were a family all the same.

01:14:23Ray called out of the blue

01:14:37and said he was going to be coming through town

01:14:39and asked if it was all right

01:14:41if he could come round and visit.

01:14:44Six months had gone by

01:14:46and I just felt that, um, under the circumstances,

01:14:51I don't think it could do any harm.

01:14:57I think we all felt that after Mungo,

01:15:01in our own ways, there'd been closure, I suppose, to a degree.

01:15:05And, you know, for each of it, it's different.

01:15:09For each of it, we've made our own peace.

01:15:11It seems strange to me

01:15:19that Ellie should, you know, withdraw so abruptly.

01:15:23I mean, we didn't help her.

01:15:25We didn't change anything.

01:15:28I think we just, uh,

01:15:30collectively made a decision to move forward.

01:15:35You know, moving was really a big part

01:15:40of all that exciting to move.

01:16:00It will be difficult to leave the house.

01:16:02Sometimes, you know, I just forget that

01:16:07she's not coming back.

01:16:14I forget.

01:16:32I've got a lot of work.

01:16:46Okay.

01:16:48Close your eyes.

01:16:51And imagine that you're

01:16:52back standing outside the house.

01:16:56Can you see it?

01:16:57I don't know.

01:16:58I don't know.

01:16:59I don't know.

01:17:00I don't know.

01:17:01You can go inside the house.

01:17:06I'm going through the front door.

01:17:12And

01:17:16walking down the hall towards Alice's room.

01:17:25Someone's there.

01:17:27I think someone's coming down the hall.

01:17:29Doors open.

01:17:33Do you know who it is?

01:17:47Do you want to go inside?

01:17:51Yeah.

01:17:54Ok.

01:17:59What do you see?

01:18:08My mum.

01:18:11What's she saying?

01:18:14She's not saying anything.

01:18:23I don't think she knows I'm there.

01:18:29Alice isn't here.

01:18:33She's not here.

01:18:36What's happening Alice?

01:18:39Are you talking to her? Is she talking to you?

01:18:41She's going now.

01:18:45She's leaving the room.

01:18:50She's gone.

01:18:52Open your eyes.

01:18:53Open your eyes.

01:19:23Open your eyes.

01:19:45She's going now.

01:19:46Ela está indo agora.

01:19:52Ela está deixando a casa.

01:20:03Boa noite!

01:20:16Ela está indo agora.

01:20:46Boa noite!

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01:22:12Boa noite!

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01:26:08Amém.

01:26:38Amém.

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