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Mama June: From Not to Hot Season 7 Episode 4
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00:00Previously on Mama June Family Crisis.
00:03Where the hell is Josh at?
00:04Mama, I really don't know.
00:05I'm sick of him.
00:06We're getting a divorce.
00:08What?
00:09I finally told my family it's something
00:11I've been keeping from everyone.
00:13So who's getting that out?
00:14Mama, whoa.
00:15I haven't even told him.
00:16This is going to suck for Ellie,
00:18because I don't know how Pumpkin's going to even
00:20tell her that Pumpkin and Dada are getting a divorce.
00:22And the next day in therapy, I finally told Josh my truth.
00:26I think it would just be better if maybe, like,
00:29we just filed for a divorce.
00:32Am I OK?
00:34Definitely not.
00:35I promise it's going to get better.
00:36I know it seems like it ain't right now, but.
00:40Well, see, look at you.
00:41Always come back home to Mama.
00:43Meanwhile, Alana's focused on college,
00:45but also stressing over Draylon's legal issues.
00:48The judge really consented you to 10 years in prison.
00:51What are you going to do, sit here and harp
00:53and wait on him for 10 years?
00:54Girl, you have a life to live.
00:55Mama's also dealing with the fight of her life,
00:57a custody battle for Kaitlyn.
00:59So my lawyer just called, and they said that my court date
01:02got moved up from a month from now to tomorrow.
01:05Even though we know what Anna wanted at the end of the day,
01:08unfortunately, we have to be left up to the judge.
01:11Of course, Mama said things on the stand she shouldn't have.
01:14So who knows how this case is going to go now?
01:17But nothing prepared us for how the judge finally ruled.
01:20I can't believe this.
01:21I can't believe this that she had a chance to see.
01:23What happened?
01:24What happened?
01:25I can't believe it.
01:35I can't believe it.
01:36That was really why Anna may be in prison.
01:38Today, we walked out of the courtroom.
01:39It's bright.
01:40It's sunny.
01:40This is Anna right now.
01:41We're all right back.
01:42We're all right.
01:43And you're right.
01:44You're right.
01:44I'm right.
01:44You're right.
01:45All right.
01:45You're right.
01:46You're right.
01:46You're right.
01:47We're right.
01:47We're right.
01:48So you're right.
01:48It's bright.
01:49It's sunny.
01:50This is Anna right now.
01:53And look, she's happy.
01:57I'm sorry.
01:58I keep her memory very much alive.
01:59Yeah.
02:01You should.
02:02And now she can rest.
02:04How do you feel?
02:06Happy.
02:08So we won the case.
02:10I got up there on the stand on day two,
02:13and I felt like Anna overtook me.
02:15And I said that Anna wants Caitlin raised
02:18by her biological family and where she knows she's safe.
02:21So all in all, it's a win.
02:22And we can be able to move on from this.
02:25How do you feel?
02:26Thank you so much, though, again.
02:28All right, let's go eat, y'all.
02:29All right, come on.
02:30I'm going to drive.
02:32It's like a victory lunch.
02:33Honestly, with Mama winning, it really is a big relief.
02:37Because we all knew that if Michael won,
02:38it would be a completely different story.
02:40He would have snatched us out of Caitlin's lives.
02:42I'm just glad that now all of that stress is over.
02:45We can finally let Anna's name go to rest.
02:48Nobody's dragging her through the courtroom.
02:50Nobody's dragging Caitlin through the courtroom.
02:51And now I feel like Caitlin and everybody else
02:54can just move on with life.
02:57Now we can have different conversations.
02:59Yeah, that's what I'm ready for.
03:00That's what I'm ready for.
03:02It's still funny to me, though, like, their side today?
03:04Is they a fan of Caitlin?
03:05Nope.
03:07I am glad that I can live with my biological family.
03:10And I can see Pumpkin, Alana, Jessica, June, Justin,
03:14all of them people.
03:15Yeah, life's going pretty good for me.
03:19Honestly, like, I am glad it's over
03:21to be able to move forward as a family.
03:23But, I mean, I will tell you, Anna won't ever
03:25be forgotten, bitch.
03:26Nope.
03:27Well, hey, if you told the judge what you wanted and he listened.
03:42You really going to eat, what you going to eat?
03:43A salad.
03:44A salad?
03:45A salad?
03:46That's all I eat.
03:47I don't think you really fit in with us.
03:49Yeah, like, I mean, who eats rabbit food?
03:52Me.
03:53You.
03:54I do not.
03:55I eat protein.
03:56Hey, how are y'all doing?
03:57I'm good.
03:57My name is Zoe.
03:58I'll be taking care of y'all today.
04:00We don't even need these.
04:01We've been here before.
04:03We're just going to order the cheese pizza,
04:06all meat pizza, barbecue wings, buffalo wings,
04:10and then the buffalo chicken dip.
04:12OK, so I can't eat any of that.
04:14So I need a side of chicken bleak.
04:16Side of chicken?
04:17Yeah.
04:17I'll grab those drinks for y'all.
04:19Like, you could have ate the pizza today.
04:20No.
04:21Today.
04:21No.
04:22Today is a cheese.
04:23Thank you, Eldridge.
04:24No, I don't care.
04:25I can't.
04:26No.
04:26The fact that Mama only ordered grilled chicken is insane.
04:29Normally, she'd be like, can I get one of everything on the menu?
04:32Lemonade.
04:33Sweet tea.
04:34I want calamari, half a slab of ribs, and mozzarella sticks.
04:39Chicken wings.
04:40I want it with fries.
04:41What do you want?
04:42You want no bacon?
04:43Yeah, high cauliflower.
04:45You want some now?
04:46There's always room for dessert.
04:47So I guess she really is dieting.
04:52Y'all want to cheers?
04:53Yeah.
04:54Cheers.
04:55Today is about Katie P. Ready?
04:58Cheers to Katie P.
04:59To Katie P.
05:00You're stuck with this group, Katie P.
05:04So y'all going to have fun eating that, and I'm going to eat my chicken.
05:10I mean, you don't miss chicken wings.
05:12Oh, my God.
05:13Are you getting a saucy one?
05:18She's licking it and smelling it.
05:19It's pretty good, ain't it?
05:20Yeah, but I can do the sauce.
05:21It's only 75 calories.
05:22She's finna lick them things dry.
05:23My goal is to be at, like, 170, but I'm only at, like, 213.
05:25For me, my relationship with food is, like, a lot different, so in my opinion, instead
05:45of eating the whole chicken wing and eating the whole basket that's, like, 800 calories,
05:50I can just lick the sauce and just try it.
05:52I'm excited to say, bro.
05:54Well, I know you are.
05:55Me, too.
05:56Now we can move out of the house.
05:58I don't even know how y'all stay there as long as y'all have, honestly.
06:01It's, like, Groundhog Day every day.
06:03I'm ready to move out of the house that we live in because I never realized when people
06:08said, oh, I can't live in the house that somebody passed away in.
06:11I never thought that was a real thing until Anna passed away in my house.
06:14Because I can't stand to be there.
06:18So what is it?
06:19Back in a divorce and, like, back living with mama with the kids?
06:25I don't know, mama.
06:26I'm not really trying to talk about the .
06:27Well, how big of a house do I need to be looking at, pumpkin?
06:30How many rooms do I need to get?
06:32Well, Jeanne, but I can't move in with you.
06:35The kids?
06:36You'd be spoiled like .
06:38Oh, I see what's happening.
06:40Mama thinks that now, because I have trouble in paradise, I'm going to move in with her and all this stuff.
06:46No, ma'am.
06:47I'm not doing that.
06:49But I can, like, give myself a little pat on the back.
06:52I mean, I have to really give Anna a pat on the back because...
06:55You can't do it no more.
06:56Oh, yes, I can, baby.
06:57I can go home and hug that urn like it ain't nothing tomorrow.
06:59So, anyway, we are right by Anna as a family.
07:02Good job.
07:03Even though we might be a dysfunctional family, our dysfunctionality works for our family at the end of the day.
07:08We're not talking about that.
07:09Yeah.
07:10It always came back.
07:17Oh, Joomba.
07:18What?
07:19Brush some damn teeth.
07:21Ain't you glad that's over with?
07:23Yeah.
07:24That was, uh, traumatic.
07:32I want to look at you.
07:33What?
07:34You mean too fresh breath?
07:36You mean too fresh?
07:37I, yeah.
07:38I can't.
07:39You gonna canoodle me tonight?
07:40A canoodle?
07:41Yeah.
07:42What is a canoodle?
07:43When you love and cuddle up.
07:45I don't see you canoodling me.
07:47I know because as soon as you hit this bed, you're gonna go to sleep.
07:50Like, this whole court case has been emotionally draining.
07:53It's over with.
07:54Today.
07:55I mean, it's been hell.
07:57But sometimes you don't feel like I do appreciate you, but I really do, for real, for real.
08:05Well, then you can give me a foot massage.
08:07Oh, God.
08:08Baby, I don't do Pete.
08:10So, I mean, I'm ready to move the helipot out of here now.
08:12I do want, like, a four or five bedroom house, because, you know, I mean, a pumpkin has to move in with the four babies.
08:18No.
08:19Moving in with the four babies?
08:20Yeah.
08:21Yeah.
08:22Oh, God.
08:23You don't just run the show anymore, Junebug.
08:25That's what I'm talking about.
08:26I'm talking to you next.
08:27Oh.
08:28Hey.
08:29Hey.
08:30How'd it go?
08:31Good.
08:32Mama won, so we went out to celebrate.
08:33The kids are asleep.
08:34Yeah.
08:35Well, I haven't really had, like, a lot of time to talk or nothing.
08:36So maybe we could go and, like, grab coffee, get out of the house tomorrow.
08:37Sure.
08:38Okay.
08:39Hey.
08:40Hey.
08:41Hey.
08:42How'd it go?
08:43Good.
08:44Mama won, so we went out to celebrate.
08:45The kids are asleep?
08:46Yeah.
08:47Well, I haven't really had, like, a lot of time to talk or nothing.
08:48So maybe we could go and, like, grab coffee, get out of the house tomorrow.
08:51Sure.
08:52Okay.
08:53I had to go to the warehouse so I could just meet you there.
08:54Okay.
08:55All right, well, I'm going to bed.
08:56Good night.
08:58Good night.
08:59Okay.
09:00and so maybe we could go and, like, grab coffee,
09:02get out of the house tomorrow.
09:04Sure.
09:05OK.
09:07I had to go to the warehouse so I could just meet you there.
09:12OK.
09:13All right, well, I'm going to bed.
09:14Good night.
09:16Good night.
09:24Her wanting to go have coffee gives me some kind of glimmer
09:28of hope that she might reconsider, but then you never know.
09:49Hey.
09:50Hey, girly pop.
09:51What are you doing?
09:53I'm studying right now.
09:54Oh, well, I just got back home from all that court s**t today.
10:02Mama won.
10:07I mean, she did give up custody of me, so...
10:11Yeah, I already know, girl.
10:13Today, all that stuff with Caitlyn was, like, finalized,
10:15and it really just makes me think, like,
10:18I need to go ahead and get my ducks in a row.
10:20Yeah, girl, for sure.
10:22Probably going to talk to him tomorrow about trying
10:25to get the papers finalized.
10:27Are you sure that's up to that?
10:29You're actually 100% right?
10:31I don't think there's really no turning back after that.
10:34No, Alana, don't be trying to talk me out of this.
10:36Like, I've already made up my mind.
10:37I know that it's really going to hurt Alana about me
10:40and Josh getting divorced, especially because we're kind of,
10:43like, the only two parents Alana's really ever known
10:45and given her that stability,
10:47but I've also preached to Josh for years about communication
10:52and doing more things together
10:54and all the things that have been going wrong in our marriage,
10:58and it hasn't changed.
11:00So now I'm changing.
11:03I want better for myself,
11:04and I want Alana to notice that when she's an adult, too.
11:07Call me tomorrow, then.
11:09Okay, girl.
11:15Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
11:20I've been thinking about my little birthday coming up,
11:22but I was thinking about inviting the fam.
11:24The fam.
11:25Maybe they want to bring the drummer out here.
11:27Your mother, she's going to bring it everywhere she goes.
11:30I hope y'all have a fun time with your Gigi.
11:33Oh, this meltdown city.
11:35Bye.
11:36Why are we here for ourselves?
11:37We have something we need to tell you.
11:39Bye.
11:56No, why are you in the boat in there first?
11:58The boat is in there.
11:59Why are you in here bossing people around?
12:02See, you're in here making a mess.
12:04what's going on guys i gotta call a realtor about a house wait wait wait a house yes not a trailer
12:14a house okay so like we can get like a pool two square house giant garage we definitely need a
12:20basement and what the hell we need a basement for i mean hello a man cave like i need my own
12:26little spot to get away from everybody well i gotta go make a phone call to kelly and see what
12:32she's got kelly yeah who's kelly she sold me my house in hampton years ago
12:38chef war our justice kelly oh my kelly this is june i'm not really looking to buy anything
12:49i am looking like for a four-bedroom i want to be out of the house i'm in right now within 60 days
12:56i'm just looking to get a bunch of houses together and just go and i look at them
12:59okay y'all just make sure it has a pool okay
13:03um i don't really want to go over like 2500
13:07back in 2014 i bought a home and it was amazing it was a five bedroom three bath home
13:154400 square foot two car garage i mean a lot of great memories happen there
13:20show them what you really are she loves hanging out with her daughter especially alana
13:24oh wow seven pounds 14 ounces ella grace thank you pumpkin can you marry me oh yes now go down touch
13:37your butt you're saying that once and touch your butt the reason why i sold my house in 2019 was
13:43because i was in the midst of my addiction i was broke as needed money but now you know i'm not in
13:49that lifestyle i'm over five years clean i don't even think about that old life and i am ready to
13:54sell down into like another home 2500 is a realistic price to pay for rent to get a house the same size
14:02as my old house was okay so just text you as quickly as i can start setting up some appointment
14:07yes ma'am and then we can just work on the days that we come up there
14:10okay thank you miss kelly
14:13you're welcome june i'll talk to you in a couple of days
14:16okay all right thanks bye
14:18i mean that sounds good honestly like
14:21i'm gonna do salting
14:22i ain't even put no salt on them
14:24oh what the hell that is salt as hell
14:26taste them
14:27no i'm good
14:28what can i get for you
14:45um yes ma'am could i do the georgia sunrise lemonade
14:50all right
14:51is the witch's brew is it sweet
14:53it's pumpkin pie toasted marshmallow and vanilla
14:56okay i'll take that
14:57nice of you to finally show up
15:16yeah i was trying to get her home time but i had to wait a moment to get there to watch the kids so
15:20well i got you this lemonade
15:23i did want to talk today because i mean i don't know i never really had to do this before
15:32i mean this isn't something we like initially planned for six years ago
15:39i never dreamed of meeting someone i wanted to marry
15:44but that all changed when we met and when we brought precious ella into the world
15:49there's things that we need to decide on because
15:54we do need to make this divorce final
15:57you sure that's what you want to do
16:02yeah
16:03i called um our attorney sarah
16:11to try to see the process with doing a divorce but she was saying that there isn't no fight in
16:16between us or anything like on the kids that's what they consider like an uncontested divorce where
16:22you're not arguing about anything but in order for us to do that we have to like agree with it before
16:28we sit down with her you know the only thing we really have is the kids
16:33so like i just figured i i'd get 50 percent like you'll get 50 percent
16:39you know i thought these conversations would come up maybe just not so quickly but you know i also
16:48had faith in that pumpkin
16:50might have made a different decision or a change of heart but i guess not so the only thing i'm looking
17:00forward to now is raising the kids
17:05i mean other than the kids the only other thing is the house i mean honestly like if you want to
17:11stay there then that's okay with me like i can start looking for places keep the house if you want it
17:17like i don't i don't really want it i mean it's just all the memories and everything else like i'm not
17:25prepared to sit there and stare at that really i know josh is having a hard time with all this
17:33and honestly like i still do care enough to hear what's going on inside of his head but i know for a
17:40fact if josh wasn't talking to me about his feelings and his emotions when we were married
17:44well he sure as hell ain't gonna do it now that we're divorcing i just have to figure out where
17:49i'm gonna go and move did sarah say there was any other things as far as like like our cars are
17:58separate like our banks are separate like those are things that normal people fight over in divorces
18:04some people fight about the canned goods in the pantry i'm gonna fight you over a damn can of cream
18:09a chicken and get a grip i don't know you might you love cream of chicken it's my rice yeah i know
18:21with chops and chicken in there i know i made the best you ain't never gonna find another one
18:24that makes it like me my mama makes it the best lies get it over yourself she don't even make good
18:28meatloaf i hate her meatloaf why because it's got onions in it
18:33i will say out of all of it i hope there is somewhat of a friendship that is salvageable in a
18:44sense
19:02well i have to go to the warehouse for a little bit
19:09all right all right
19:14coming up on mama june family crisis here here's just like king of the mountain i think this is
19:26where we need to be we think of divorce like this is horrible right it doesn't have to be
19:34why are we here by ourselves we have something we need to tell you
19:44oh
19:47oh hello so how have you been okay girls my friend kelly is a big realtor here in georgia
19:54she saw me in my first house so we're going to go look at the houses that she picked out so i gave
20:01her a list of what we wanted and you know katelyn wanted a pool jose on a man cave and i want a house
20:07with no gas, and I'm not going over $2,500.
20:10But I also want a four or five bedroom house
20:13because I always have had a place
20:15that if the kids need to come back,
20:16so all this going on with Pumpkin and Josh,
20:19you know, you don't ever know if she needs a place
20:20to stay with the kids.
20:21If Dreden goes to court, you don't know if Alana's
20:23going to need a place to go.
20:25Like, I always want a place so my kids
20:28can always come back home too.
20:29Because when I moved out of my mom's house when I was 14,
20:33I wasn't allowed to go back.
20:34So I don't want to be like that.
20:37So how many bedrooms is this one?
20:40Four bedrooms.
20:41Does the furniture come with or no?
20:43You know, they have not offered it with the rental,
20:45but it's something you could ask for.
20:47And then you're in the kitchen, which is open to the family room.
20:50OK, I'm not a big stickler on gas.
20:53OK.
20:53Because you have a gas leak, and you don't even know it.
20:59It's open concept for me, and I'm not a big stickler.
21:02I'm not a big stickler on gas, because you have a gas leak,
21:05and you don't even know it.
21:07I'm not a big stickler, except it's good.
21:09Where is the pool?
21:11I'm sorry, Angel.
21:12There's no, there's no pool.
21:17This house that we're looking at right now has no pool.
21:19Well, I mean, just slow your roll.
21:21Let's go in there and check it out.
21:22Who knows?
21:23It might have a man cave.
21:24Look here, buddy boy.
21:25And nothing all about Justin Thomas Stroud over here, no.
21:29Nothing ain't all about Caitlin Elizabeth Shannon.
21:32I'm going to get my pool.
21:34Oh, I call this room.
21:36June, we can share a bedroom.
21:38Oh, I ain't going to lie.
21:40This right here is.
21:40No, me and June are sharing a bedroom.
21:41No, this is my man cave.
21:43You're not going to get your.
21:44Man cave.
21:45It's electrical in there, too.
21:48And so this goes over the budget just a smidge.
21:51It's at $3,000.
21:54$3,000 a month?
21:55Yep.
21:56So this first house, I can already tell you,
21:58I ain't going to work.
21:59I have a very short list of no, and gas stoves is one.
22:04And there is not going to be no man cave in the bedroom.
22:09No.
22:10Off to the second one.
22:11See if we can't find you something that you love.
22:14Yes, definitely.
22:16Honey, baby, you are way underdressed for this next house.
22:19I'm underdressed.
22:20Bitch, baby, you're going to see some famous people in there,
22:23isn't it?
22:23I'm famous, too, June.
22:25All I got to do is look in the mirror.
22:26I can see myself every day.
22:28Ugh.
22:29The Lake Spivey is where everybody's everybody.
22:32Rappers, other famous people, if you live in Atlanta,
22:34you're going to be living in Lake Spivey, period.
22:36So I'm Mama June, and I deserve to be around other famous
22:39people, too.
22:40I mean, it's my opportunity.
22:43Damn, bitch, nines.
22:50Look, there goes your swimming pool.
22:55That's the lake.
22:57Yep, we got you some water, baby.
22:59It's just gorgeous.
23:00Come on in.
23:01This is big, though.
23:02Oh, it's real big.
23:05Oh, OK.
23:05OK.
23:06OK.
23:07This, I have to say, is nice.
23:11Let's see about the stove, though.
23:14And appliances?
23:15Oh.
23:17It's gas.
23:21We got the pantry right here.
23:22Nope.
23:25Ow!
23:26This is not a-
23:27That's crazy.
23:28It doesn't look like a cabinet, and it's the refrigerator.
23:30This is the house that's big enough for everyone.
23:33Pumpkin, the kids.
23:36Yeah, definitely.
23:38Oh, my God.
23:39This house is gorgeous.
23:41One, it's got its own way to the boat ram.
23:45It's out on the lake.
23:47You can entertain outside.
23:49There's a big-ass kitchen in there.
23:51There is plenty of space for everybody, OK?
23:55Me, you, Katie P, Pumpkin, Ella, Silas, Bentley, and Stella.
24:03You got a little fire pit there.
24:05A little gazebo entertaining area.
24:07Here, here's just, like, king of the mountain.
24:11Whoa.
24:12You know, I would love to live on the lake,
24:14even though June doesn't have the best history
24:17when it comes to water.
24:18We got you, Skyhawk.
24:19I can't see the puke, for real.
24:22But me, on the other hand, I would love living on the lake.
24:25I mean, you get to live next to all these other famous people.
24:28I mean, to hear June tell it, Lake Spivey is where it's all at.
24:32Now, June, this is something I could wake up to every day.
24:37OK.
24:39This is very nice.
24:41So Kelly really hit it out of the park with this Lake Spivey
24:44house.
24:44And it's got everything that I want.
24:46Yes, it's got a gasto, but I'm willing to look over that.
24:49And lucky enough, I got my mama June pin,
24:51because I'm ready to sign this contract.
24:53So you know it's to the nines.
24:55This price per month is going to be over $3,000.
25:03I think this is where we need to be.
25:08I'm going to be selling and making a lot of pins, y'all.
25:11Y'all better get ready to buy some pins.
25:12It's going to be called Mama June's Rent Pins.
25:16Come on, Katy-P.
25:16No!
25:17I don't want to leave.
25:18Oh, she's not going.
25:19I want this house, not any other house.
25:36You know, I really don't want to have to meet with Sarah,
25:39but I know that divorces are like a whole legal thing.
25:42But me and Josh have figured it all out,
25:44so it should just be simple and easy.
25:47Hey, y'all.
25:49Good to see you.
25:49Hey, Josh, Lauren.
25:51Hey.
25:52So a divorce.
25:56What's going on?
25:57Um, we just haven't been able to, like, really communicate.
26:01We're kind of like in that, we've been in that roommate stage
26:04for like a while.
26:05You know, we've went through therapy.
26:08It's like, I don't really feel like we're getting anywhere.
26:11Josh?
26:13It's about the gist of it.
26:14It's about the gist of it.
26:16So you've talked about it, and this is what you want to do?
26:19Yes, ma'am.
26:19Mm-hmm.
26:21From what y'all are telling me, I'm kind of assuming that the grounds
26:24for divorce is just irreconcilable differences?
26:27Yes, ma'am.
26:28Okay.
26:29You've got four kids, don't you?
26:31Yes, ma'am.
26:32So have you talked about that, how you're going to do custody and?
26:36Um, we have talked about that, like, I don't want to, we both, that's why we're both like
26:40sitting here, because like, we don't want to be bitter on either one of our ends or go
26:46through a nasty custody divorce, there's no point in that, because we both take care
26:49of our kids, we're both there for our kids, you know?
26:53So what have y'all talked about doing?
26:55Um, I think we agreed, like, on the 50-50, he'll have them a week, and then I'll have
27:01them a week.
27:01Had the two of you discussed child support?
27:04We just got still, and we just said that we weren't going to do it, because I feel
27:07like if we're going to do the 50-50, on the weeks that he has the kids, he's financially,
27:12physically, you know, and emotionally supposed to be there for the kids, and I feel like vice
27:17versa, you know?
27:18Is that okay with you, Josh?
27:19It's fair to me.
27:20Have you determined how you're going to work out the property division?
27:24Uh, yeah, I'm going to keep the house.
27:28And Josh, have you chosen a place to stay yet?
27:31I'm still looking around.
27:33Okay.
27:34Sitting inside of Sarah's office, watching paperwork dismantle the life I once lived.
27:40It does suck.
27:42Well, what about, um, final decision-making authority?
27:45I mean, you know, let's say, Josh, let's say you move to a different town, and you stay
27:52where you are, and you say, well, I want the kids to go to school here, in this town, and
27:57you say, well, no, I want them to go here.
27:59How are we going to work that out?
28:00I don't know.
28:01I don't know.
28:02I don't know.
28:06I don't know.
28:07I don't know.
28:08I don't know.
28:09I don't know.
28:10We're coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
28:13I've been thinking about Mama's birthday coming up and, you know, inviting the fam.
28:16Maybe they want to bring the drummer out here, you know?
28:19Your mother, she's going to bring it everywhere she goes.
28:21You know, all of this has been super hard, but I believe telling Ella is going to be the
28:26hardest.
28:27We have something we need to tell you.
28:35Well, what about, um, final decision-making authority?
28:39How are we going to work that out?
28:41I think that I could just leave it up to her.
28:45What that means, Lauren, is that you are required to discuss it with him, anything with him, and
28:51you're required to take his thoughts into consideration, and I know right now everything
28:57is good.
28:57Y'all are at least working together pretty well, but things do change.
29:03Right.
29:03And I've seen those changes happen in a lot, a lot of clients over 20-something years of
29:08working, but you're okay with her having the final decision?
29:12Yes, ma'am.
29:13Okay.
29:15At this point, there's no stopping the train.
29:17The divorce is basically being finalized in front of my face, so given Palm Beach,
29:21the last say is the option of, I know she's a good mom.
29:27Here, baby.
29:29Boys have cooties.
29:30I hate cooties.
29:31I need a man to take care of me.
29:34Don't be like Gigi.
29:35P, baby, repeat after me.
29:37I'm a strong, independent woman.
29:39I'm a strong, independent woman.
29:43She always has been, and I know she'll always do right by the kids, so...
29:49Giving her the final say-so is just like, it's not going to bother me.
29:55I hate to see this happen, but I'm so glad to see the two of y'all are at least getting
29:59along well enough to come in and do this together.
30:03This is very unusual, very unusual.
30:06And I think that's going to be really good for your children, if y'all can keep this up.
30:10Right.
30:10Next, I'll draw up the paperwork, try to get it as close to what y'all have asked for as
30:16we can, and once it's signed, it can be sent to the court, and then it's at least 30 days
30:23before the divorce can be final.
30:25All righty.
30:25Well, thank you.
30:26All right.
30:27Good to see you.
30:28You too.
30:28I wish it was under a little bit better circumstances.
30:31All things considered, today went really good.
30:33There was no arguing.
30:34There was no cussing at each other.
30:35There was no fighting, and I mean, Josh did give me the final say-so with the kids,
30:40so at the end of the day, I do feel like he still respects me, at least as the kid's mother.
30:49Well, are you okay?
30:52Yeah.
30:54I'll be okay.
30:56All right, well.
30:57See you later.
30:59Okay.
31:05How's the ice cream?
31:12Um, it's okay.
31:13It's a little melty because of the sun, but...
31:16100%.
31:17Is that a gase?
31:22I like it out here.
31:23It's real nice.
31:25Yeah, I love being in Colorado.
31:27100%.
31:27No drama, no family drama.
31:29I mean, I've been thinking about my little birthday coming up, and you know, it'd be like
31:36the first one without Anna.
31:38Mm-hmm.
31:39I'm gonna be 19.
31:40She'd be 30.
31:4230, 30, home.
31:42Yeah, a little dirty 30.
31:44Mm-hmm.
31:44As some of you may know, some of you may not, me and Anna share the exact same birthday.
31:50Um, she was just obviously born years before me.
31:53This will be the first one without her, so it's definitely gonna be hard, but I know for a fact
31:58that I wanna do something to remember her by, and I wanna do something that, like, she
32:03would want me to do to celebrate us together.
32:06I've been looking at this place out here, and they actually do.
32:09I didn't even think it was the actual thing.
32:10What?
32:11Releasing some doves.
32:13Whoa.
32:14So, like, release one dove for Anna, and then one dove for me, and then another dove
32:20to assimilize her life.
32:22It would be different.
32:23People don't do it all the time.
32:24I think we could do it out here.
32:26It's open.
32:27Yeah, that'd probably be really nice.
32:29The water right here.
32:30But I was thinking about inviting the fam.
32:33The fam?
32:35Yeah, I feel like it could be something that we could do as a family.
32:39Your mama is drama.
32:42Can't even tell her to leave the drama with your mama, because she is the drama.
32:46100%.
32:47It's gonna be the first time that they celebrate Anna's birthday without her, too, so...
32:52I feel like it just might be best if we're just all together.
32:55I do feel like it'll be important to have the whole family out here.
32:59I mean, we all went through Anna's death and, like, Anna's cancer and stuff as a family.
33:03If you don't follow your dreams and I die within a year or so, I'm gonna haunt you.
33:07And you're not...
33:08If you're not in home...
33:09You're gonna haunt me!
33:10Yeah, I'm gonna haunt you for the rest of your life.
33:14It's a complete 360 from when you were here two days ago.
33:17Love you, Annie.
33:19I'm in nursing school, so you can't haunt me!
33:22She did say that.
33:24So, I feel like it would only be right to, like, tribute Anna on my birthday or our birthday as a family.
33:31They got too much drama down there.
33:33Yeah, but maybe they won't bring the drama out here, you know?
33:36Your mother, she's gonna bring it everywhere.
33:39It's your birthday, Lana.
33:41You can do whatever you want.
33:43I know.
33:44It's my day.
33:46Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
33:49My parents split when I was 10, so I know that's a long time ago, but it was a very tough time for me to grasp.
33:55I am a little nervous about telling Ella with me and Josh going through a divorce.
33:59Why are we here by ourselves?
34:01Well, you know, we have something we need to tell you.
34:12What you been doing?
34:17Just hanging out, babe.
34:20Hi.
34:21Hey.
34:22How are you?
34:23All right.
34:23Yes, good.
34:24Good.
34:24You know, now that the paperwork is already in the filing process, I think it's time that we do need to tell Ella and that we need to figure out how to do that without expressing our emotions onto her, too.
34:38And what better way to do that than our therapist?
34:40So, guys, what's been better since the last time I saw you guys?
34:46Right now, we're, like, being cordial with each other, being civil with each other.
34:51And how are the children adjusting, like, as far as, like, what you know?
34:56Well, you know, the three small ones, it's like, you know, they're not really at an appropriate age to have an understanding of what the color blue is.
35:02So, but for Ella, like, my parents split when I was 10, so I know that's a long time ago, but it was a very tough time for me to grasp and figure out and navigate through.
35:13And it's just like Ella's younger than I was, so I can't imagine trying to navigate through those feelings at such a young age.
35:20I don't, I can't imagine.
35:22It hurts my heart, really, to think about it, you know?
35:24Yeah.
35:25Like, I want to take her to do something fun and just tell her, but then I also feel like that's kind of like a distraction.
35:31But then I also feel like if I set her down, like, we're sitting down, I also feel like there's going to be that part of her that just is like, I'm fine.
35:38I'm okay.
35:41Josh, you know, when he gets in his feelings, he does tend to shut down.
35:45I don't have the brainpower right now to be thinking about your mother's .
35:49I'm just, I'm going to go take a break to myself, because your mother would make me have a mental breakdown.
35:59So it worries me that Ella will mirror him, and honestly, I just need tools so that I can make sure that she's okay.
36:05So what came across my mind is for you both to sit down in a place where she's comfortable, like in your house or wherever, and you let her know how it's going to be moving forward, and then maybe after that, y'all do something fun.
36:21Yeah.
36:21Right.
36:21So we do the hard stuff first, check in with her, see how she's processing, try your best not to project on her, right?
36:30Just allow her to be in that space and take it all in.
36:34Right.
36:34What do y'all think about that?
36:36I think that would be smart, because like I don't want to start off with something fun and then not be, you know, a big distraction.
36:42Right, and then the bummer of the night is, by the way.
36:44Yeah, that's why like I didn't know really like how to approach it.
36:47So for me, I just, I want to do it in a place where Ella feels comfortable, you know?
36:51We think of divorce like, this is horrible.
36:54Right.
36:54It doesn't have to be.
36:55And what I also gather is that you guys are doing the best you can, and I commend you for that, absolutely.
37:03That's, that's lovely.
37:04Yeah, and I will tell you, and this is study based, when parents are okay, the children are okay.
37:10And that could be inside of a marriage or out.
37:14And the faster that you make this normal for Ella, the better.
37:20All right.
37:21I wish you all the best.
37:22Thank you so much.
37:24Ready?
37:25Yeah.
37:25You have a good day.
37:29All right.
37:29I am glad that me and Josh can be civil enough to agree on stuff and make sure at the end of the day, the kids are just taken care of.
37:38Well, now we just need to talk to Ellie.
37:41Can I have a little smidge?
37:57A little smidge for mommy?
37:59Bubba, you want a ball?
38:00For it to mama.
38:01For it to mama.
38:02For it to mama.
38:05All right, Gigi, let's go.
38:12About time you do something.
38:14Not that I want to watch kids.
38:16You don't want to watch kids, but you want everybody to move in with us, like make it make sense.
38:20Yeah, but Bubba, pumpkin will be there.
38:23Maybe not all the time.
38:25I love you.
38:28Look there, Gigi.
38:29Look.
38:31What are you doing?
38:32We're coloring right now.
38:35I got coloring.
38:35What you got, buddy?
38:36Where's team?
38:37With Josh, we're going to take her to go get ice cream and tell her that, you know,
38:41we're getting a divorce.
38:42Honestly, I am a little nervous about telling Ella with me and Josh going through a divorce.
38:47Like, I know that she can read the vibe and know that things aren't great between me and
38:50her daddy, but I do worry about how Ella feels, and that's just the mama inside of me.
38:56Hey, hey, hey, boys.
39:01Y'all are fixing to give Gigi a run for her money.
39:03Sa-sa.
39:04No, I'm not.
39:05Give Gigi a run for his money.
39:07What you going to do, sit on the couch?
39:09That's right.
39:09And make him watch the young'uns?
39:10I think Gigi Justin does a better thing at watching the kids than I do, because honestly,
39:16I'm okay, like, watching the kids, but I guess it's been so long since I had little young'uns,
39:21and especially three of them under three.
39:29There.
39:30Hey, why would you punch her?
39:32No.
39:33You give Stella a hug and tell her you're sorry, and I'll give you a hug.
39:36Lovely.
39:41You know what?
39:41On that note, mommy has to go bye-bye, okay?
39:44You're going to sit here with your Gigi.
39:46I hope y'all have a fun time with your Gigi.
39:51No.
39:52Sa-sa, Sa-sa, he going with you.
39:54Sa-sa, come here.
39:56Oh, that meltdown city.
39:58Them boys don't like what mama leaves.
40:00Bye.
40:00Here's the ball.
40:02God, Lee.
40:04Look.
40:04Come here, no, you're safe.
40:06Come here, ma'am.
40:07They better have fun with that.
40:10I mean, I can't wait till they all move in, June, can't you?
40:13Where are you going?
40:14You can't go upstairs.
40:16Get off the stairs.
40:17Hit me to mama.
40:18Say cheese.
40:19Mommy.
40:21Oh, my God.
40:28Let me get some ice cream there, baby.
40:31Yep, yep.
40:32Ella Grace first.
40:36Hey.
40:36Hi, welcome in.
40:38Can I get some cookies and cream with chocolate chips on it, please?
40:43Yes.
40:43Yeah, to get some for mom, too.
40:45What do you think she wants?
40:47Cookie monster?
40:48Cookie monster.
40:49Can I get two scoops of the cookie monster?
40:52Yes.
40:52And a scoop of the cotton candy.
40:55You know, all of this has been super hard, but I believe telling Ella is going to be the
41:00hardest, just because she doesn't understand.
41:03I'm not ready to tell her, but, oh, it is what it is.
41:12Um, can I have a bike, homie?
41:14No.
41:15I'm just having, like, an Ella day.
41:16Is that okay with you?
41:22It's weird, like, just me, just out for ice cream, because, um, why did the baby not come?
41:38Look at you.
41:40Hey, Ella Grace.
41:42Mommy.
41:43I'm Pookie.
41:44All right, you can get to him.
41:51What'd you get?
41:53I got a cookie.
41:54What'd your daddy get?
41:57It's cotton candy.
41:59Isn't that crazy?
42:01I knew what you wanted.
42:02Yeah, did you?
42:04You having fun with daddy?
42:06Yep.
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