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Debating the Finals MVP Choice: SGA vs. Jalen Williams
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6/21/2025
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00:00
Try and talk through the finals MVP market if you think it's maybe even up for debate right now, either side of it.
00:05
I'll start on the Shea-JW debate that was bubbling a little bit going into game number six.
00:14
I found the Jalen Williams argument to be non-existent, and then he was minus 40 in game six.
00:24
I mean, I know it's not like, you know, Shea's minus 17 was necessarily something to write home about,
00:29
but I'm not sure minus 40, when you were already nowhere near as good as Shea in the series, is something that can be overcame.
00:37
Coach, your thoughts on the Thunder portion of the finals MVP race?
00:41
There is no conversation. It's over.
00:44
So, you know, obviously when you look at it, you know, J-Dub, could he have a great game seven?
00:49
Yes, but SJ has been far away, been the better player.
00:52
That's why if you start looking at the game, you know, the Thunder being minus 290,
00:57
if you want to just go money line, I would just go SGA minus 240 to win the MVP
01:01
because I don't see a pathway for J-Dub or anyone else for that team, Tom,
01:07
to even have a chance on getting the MVP.
01:10
Like, this is the discussion we have in a lot of different sports for awards,
01:15
and SGA is the right answer. SGA is going to win it.
01:18
The argument people want to say is, like, oh, what would it take for Williams to win the award?
01:24
He legitimately needs to have 50 points.
01:26
Like, that's an exaggeration.
01:29
And a bad SGA game.
01:33
So, like, everything that you see right now, it's like SGA averages more points.
01:37
Yes, the J-Dub is highlighted by a 40-point performance, which SGA does not have.
01:42
He has not scored 40 in the finals.
01:45
But the totality, and again, the body of work that SGA has put up is better than J-Dub.
01:51
And the recency bias of, like, oh, my God, 40 points.
01:53
Like, he would literally need to go out and score 50 points for me to entertain the argument
01:57
that it's not going to be SGA.
01:59
And seeing 50 points in Game 7 would be monumental.
02:03
Like, it would be a literal all-time performance.
02:05
Well, it also would throw away the fact that you and I think that the game is probably going under.
02:08
Absolutely. That's what I'm saying.
02:10
It would go against everything, and SGA would be scoring 15 points.
02:14
And they're like, listen, we're just going to give the ball to Williams because he's not missing,
02:16
which is not going to happen.
02:17
I just think really quick, if you are big on maybe you think that Jalen Williams has a chance,
02:22
which none of us think he does, then I would just go to the alt mark and just go 25-plus points
02:26
and plus 158.
02:27
Very fair.
02:28
Just very fair.
02:29
I'll just go there.
02:30
Even 30.
02:31
Even 30.
02:32
Plus 40.
02:32
Like, 30 is along the lines of what we're saying, but it still wouldn't get him to the MVP.
02:38
Right, right.
02:39
Agreed.
02:40
Shea is averaging significantly more points more efficiently while also assisting more
02:44
and being more impactful on defense.
02:45
Okay, so that's not even close.
02:47
Yeah, again, I...
02:48
We're all in agreement.
02:48
It would require a monumental game for Williams to win.
02:51
Yeah, absolutely.
02:51
The Pacer side is either more of a debate or not really because people also, you know,
02:56
could think it is Pascal.
02:58
Pascal averaging at the moment 20 points per game along with eight boards and four assists,
03:02
averaging three stocks when you round up.
03:05
Tyrese Halliburton is averaging 15 points a game with five rebounds and seven assists,
03:09
averaging two stocks when you round up.
03:11
So far, Pascal Siakam has provided more consistency.
03:14
I think that Tyrese Halliburton has provided more of what this team needs in order for them
03:22
to win the series.
03:23
Ultimately, through the first three games, I didn't find this to be particularly close.
03:28
I know some did.
03:29
I did not.
03:30
Tyrese Halliburton's shot is worth a lot more than Pascal scoring 28 and a loss.
03:36
I firmly believe that.
03:38
But also, Tyrese Halliburton's 14 points and five assists that he had in game number six
03:43
are not going to wow or go, oh, oh, oh.
03:46
Well, he was plus 25 in 23 minutes.
03:48
He was the most impactful player in the game.
03:52
Now, it's going to swing, of course, on game number seven.
03:56
But I think the market is still treating it somewhat more like, ah, Pascal's got a comfortable
04:02
lead.
04:02
That's not something I agree with, Tom.
04:04
I don't either.
04:06
And this comes down to recency bias, recent performance, box score watching.
04:13
But as we have continuously talked about, not just for this year's, but the playoffs overall,
04:20
what Halliburton is good at doesn't always show up in terms of box score.
04:25
And that is very important.
04:26
And a literal driving factor of why they win games.
04:30
It's very simple.
04:31
Well, very simply put, if you look at the three games that they've won, 14, 10, and
04:36
six, 22, 11, and nine, and then the 14 points in 23 minutes, I think it should just be a
04:43
hell of a lot closer to this number for Tyrese Halliburton.
04:46
Because if he has a big game in game seven, he could steal it.
04:49
Now, here's the crazy thing.
04:50
He'll never get it.
04:51
He'll never sniff it.
04:53
But there's a part of me that wants to put a couple of dollars.
04:56
No, stop.
04:57
Don't do this.
04:58
Go ahead.
04:58
No, go ahead.
04:59
Ready?
04:59
Oh, God.
05:00
Ready?
05:00
Ready?
05:01
Who in every big moment for Indiana seems to be on the floor?
05:05
TJ McConnell.
05:06
Every time.
05:08
Listen.
05:08
That is crazy.
05:09
A dollar.
05:10
Not an A.
05:11
Not the mortgage.
05:12
Just a dollar.
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