00:00So Danny, we know the huge legacy that Chris Wilder leaves behind. It kind of felt before when he left, I don't know about you, when he left the first time around, there was a feeling this isn't over.
00:16There was something just nagging there that maybe he would come back. This time around, it feels very definite. So what happens next for him, do you think? He's very much seen as being Sheffield United manager. Will he go back into management? Will he have himself a little bit of a break now? What do you think?
00:46Well, there's probably only one man who can answer that definitively, isn't there? But I suspect this won't be the last we see of him in management. I would imagine he'll have a break after what's happened. I know he threw himself pretty much straight into planning for next season pretty soon after what happened at Wembley last month.
01:10So I'm sure he'll take the time to sort of possibly digest that a little bit and switch off for a little bit. But you know what people are like in football. They'll be itching for that next job.
01:20I mean, you're a long time retired, aren't you, in football? And I'm sure that if you're a club looking for someone to try and get you into the Premier League,
01:30and you look at what Chris has done, you know, historically and recently as well last season by rebuilding a team, as we said, you know,
01:38we've talked about this at length, haven't we? Rebuilding a team on a, not exactly, you know, it's not a checkbook manager, is it?
01:45You know, it's not one that has done it by, you know, turning the chairman upside down and sort of taking every penny he can get from them.
01:55You know, last season he did it by making a profit, which I think still goes under the radar as well.
02:00So if you're the owner of a club, perhaps looking to have a go, a promotion, and maybe not wanting to spend fortunes doing so,
02:10I can't see why Chris wouldn't be, you know, on your radar.
02:14And mind you, he's got, as I keep saying, 92 points last season, took his team to within 15 minutes of the Premier League.
02:21I'm sure he'll be on a lot of, a lot of radars, you know, this summer and beyond when this silly season of the second starts,
02:28you know, within a few months of the season.
02:29I'm sure that he'll be right up there in terms of, you know, teams who are looking for someone to come and re-galvanise the team
02:38or have a push for the Premier League.
02:40I can't see many more, you know, out there who'll be, you know, more equipped at doing that than him.
02:47He's, he's, some people might disagree with me here.
02:53He still remains fairly humble, Chris.
02:56With that in mind, would you see him taking a job in League One or maybe going elsewhere?
03:03Maybe would he, would he try to, would he take up a job in another country, do you think?
03:07Yeah, I could, I could see that.
03:10Yeah, I agree with the, the humility point.
03:13I think the public Chris Wilder perception that a lot of people have is quite different to the, to the sort of private one.
03:20You know, there's a lot of talk about the celebrations have to be in Wednesday and stuff.
03:24And I always think, what do you want?
03:27You know, I think we said at the time, I think you, as a football fan, what you want more than anything, I think,
03:33is to see yourself represented in your, in your team and your football club.
03:37I think with Chris, that was, I was going to say easily done.
03:40I don't think it's an easy thing to do, but I think it was easy to see yourself in him and his Sheffield United team.
03:46I think that would be something that, just going back to your previous point about Ruben Sellers,
03:50I think that would be something that he has to, to sort of get a grip on quite early on because, not to pigeonhole him,
03:57but the last time that United went down a similar path with Solvici Akanovic and you remember as well as, as I do and everyone else,
04:03how he tried to perhaps change too much too soon and tried to, to change, you know, a lot more than he perhaps should have done.
04:12And it just didn't, it just didn't work, did it?
04:15I think he has to sort of be mindful of what makes this football club this football club.
04:20Don't try and change too much about it while also changing what he thinks he can change and improve.
04:26Does that make sense?
04:29So, yeah, I think that's something that Ruben will have to be, have to be conscious of.
04:34But yeah, going back to Chris, yeah, I could, I could see that.
04:37I think what he does have and from, you know, the sort of short conversations we've had since the summer,
04:44you know, he still has that burning desire and passion for football, you know,
04:49even at his, his 57 now, I think from Remraith, something like that.
04:54But I don't think that passion and that determination to make success of himself will have dampened him whatsoever.
05:00If anything, this could make him even more determined to sort of go somewhere else and make a success of it there as well.
05:07And say, you know, I'm not just someone who can, you know, succeed at Sheffield United.
05:11I'm not just wedded to one football club.
05:14I can go elsewhere and do it.
05:16And, you know, if he does, you know, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that, you know, if that, if that happened or if he came back, you know, in the future.
05:24You know, he said it seems pretty definite this time around.
05:27But, you know, football, football's a crazy game, isn't it?
05:30And I don't think he could rule anything out at the minute.
05:35So perhaps, you know, in a couple of years time, he might come back for a third spell.
05:38Who knows?
05:39But, yeah, for the minute, it's Ruben Sellers' gig.
05:43You know, whether you agree with the decision, despise the decision, are pretty ambivalent towards the decision, you know, a lean in one way or the other.
05:51Ultimately, it's been made.
05:52There's nothing we can really do about it now.
05:54All we can do, I suppose, is get behind the new man and hope it's a success, which Chris will be doing.
05:59You know, he's a Sheffield United fan, as we all know.
06:02You know, he won't be sitting there and hoping that Ruben fails.
06:05That's not, you know, part of his DNA.
06:09And, yeah, if we're all sat here in a year's time and United are preparing for the Premier League, you know, it'll be a very different conversation.
06:18You know, if we're sat here in a year's time where they finished 15th in the Championship, it'll be a very different conversation again.
06:23You know, as ever in football, as we said, time will tell as to whether it was the right decision or not.