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00:00Previously on The Rookie.
00:06That's Aaron Thorson.
00:08Rich kid, TikTok famous before he got arrested for murdering his roommate in Paris.
00:12I was locked in the cell for 541 days.
00:15The person who murdered Patrick, he's still out there.
00:18And no one is looking for him because they still think that I did it.
00:21I don't want to be a part of this reality TV show.
00:23Sweetie, it's only going to help you.
00:25Morris Mackey, I'm the reality TV producer here.
00:28I just want to say, this has been so fascinating.
00:30I love true crime, and to be in a documentary, it's just, it's a dream come true.
00:35Thank you, thank you.
00:38You're back.
00:43Another crazy story, how could I stay away?
00:47You good to go?
00:48Yeah, where should I, uh, where should I start?
00:50Why don't you, uh, tell me about Aaron Thorson?
00:52Well, Aaron came to the FTO program with the deck stacked against him.
00:56He had to sue the LAPD even to get into the academy.
01:00I mean, you have to respect just how hard he fought just to be here.
01:04Uh, but what happened in Paris never left him, no matter how hard he tried to move on.
01:10People would argue that doing a reality show is the opposite of moving on.
01:14Well, those people haven't experienced what it's like to be infamous.
01:17I mean, Aaron was desperate to reset the way the world saw him.
01:21And it all blew up in his face.
01:22Yeah.
01:23Yeah, I really did.
01:31I can't believe this is happening to me again.
01:38It's nice to see you again.
01:39Mm-hmm.
01:40And congratulations on the baby.
01:43Did being pregnant make what you went through with Aaron more stressful?
01:46Not here to talk about me.
01:48Fair enough.
01:48Uh, let's talk about the reality show.
01:51Okay.
01:51It was his mom's idea.
01:53It was a way to rebrand his image.
01:55And what did you think of the title?
01:58No comment.
01:59Seriously, though, you have to have had an opinion.
02:01Listen, you're not going to get me to say that dumbass title, so let's just move on.
02:05Yeah, so back there is my parents' room and the family room.
02:36Um, oh, right here.
02:37This is my favorite photo.
02:40I was six.
02:41And you might recognize my dad.
02:42He was part of a 90s rap duo, Flex and Flow.
02:46That's them right here.
02:47No, no, no, no.
02:48Yeah, man, when I was a kid, I used to love riding my tricycle up and down this hallway.
02:54Until he knocked over my music industry achievement award and broke it.
02:58Aaron tried to put it back together with Play-Doh, thinking we wouldn't notice.
03:02But that's my son.
03:03Always trying to get away with something.
03:07Not anymore.
03:08I mean, now he's very responsible.
03:13Over here, we got my childhood bedroom.
03:15What the hell?
03:20Hey, I never had this picture of Patrick.
03:23Did you put this here?
03:24We just thought it'd be a nice surprise.
03:27Man, Morris, what the hell did I tell you, man, about faking stuff like this?
03:29Relax.
03:30Uh, not a big deal.
03:31We just wanted to do it for a take.
03:33Yeah, man, that's not cool.
03:35You know what?
03:35You're right.
03:36My bad.
03:37We'll do it again, but without the photo.
03:40Okay.
03:41Yeah, okay.
03:46Got that.
03:48Morris was white hot from doing several award-winning documentaries in a row.
03:52The king of those 30 under 30 lists.
03:54He had a real gift for earning people's trust, convincing them that he was on their side,
03:58that they have a say on the final cut.
04:00Then, surprise, they didn't.
04:02Hey, sorry.
04:08I, uh, totally forgot this was happening today.
04:10We just started.
04:11Uh, don't forget to tell them about the, uh, forensics expert.
04:13I know.
04:14Uh, and the, uh, the French prosecutor.
04:16I sent you that interview, right?
04:17He was biased against Aaron from the jump.
04:21I'm, uh, a decade older, but Aaron and I had similar upbringings.
04:25Rich parents, private schools.
04:27Just lucky social media didn't exist.
04:29Look, if I was in Aaron's generation, I would have just as much embarrassing footage as he did.
04:33Of what?
04:34You studied tort reform at 15?
04:36I got into trouble.
04:38Uh-huh.
04:39Okay.
04:39The point is, when you grow up in this world, you don't hear no a lot, which can make you a real ass.
04:44It can make you a very selfish person.
04:46Another day.
04:47Another dollar.
04:49Yo, they only got, like, five pairs of these in the whole world, and I got a pair.
04:52You don't have a pair, but I do.
04:54What's up?
04:54What's up?
04:55Hey, yo, what up, everybody?
04:56It's your boy, A-T, and my guy, Patty P, right here.
04:59We got a pool party tonight.
05:00Everybody come through.
05:02Holy shit.
05:03You got the matching, you know.
05:04Got the matching.
05:05And the shit.
05:06Hey.
05:06High fun.
05:07You know what it is.
05:08High fun.
05:09You know the vibes.
05:10You know the vibes.
05:16$30,000 a bottle, and he didn't drink a sip.
05:20That boy lost his mind.
05:22I had to get him out of his comfort zone.
05:24I mean, I thought, you know, a semester abroad would have helped him mature, so I sent him
05:29to Paris.
05:36I was on scholarship, University of Michigan.
05:40Go, Wolverines.
05:41I don't know why I said that.
05:42Can I please start over?
05:44You're doing fine.
05:46When did you first meet Aaron and Patrick?
05:47The program held a mixer.
05:49When we first arrived, it was mostly just a bunch of awkward college students butchering
05:53French.
05:54But Aaron and Patrick were from this whole other world.
05:57First impressions?
05:58I mean, honestly, they seemed like entitled douchebags.
06:03But then I got to know them.
06:04You know, it was like another planet.
06:06Planet rich.
06:07Patrick was the funniest.
06:09All that stuff you saw on Instagram?
06:11That's not who they were.
06:12Yeah, I mean, we went from the two musketeers to four, you know, just like that.
06:16Me, Patrick, Roan, and Everest.
06:18We were, uh, inseparable.
06:22And, uh, man, that feels like so long ago.
06:26Are you nervous about the reunion?
06:27A little.
06:29Or a lot.
06:31Yeah, I mean, um, I haven't seen them since the trial.
06:34And they all went home, graduated from college, got jobs, and I went to prison.
06:40Do they believe in your innocence?
06:42Yeah, 100%.
06:43They both said that.
06:45You know, there can be a big difference between what people say and what they believe.
06:52Sorry, let's, hold on.
06:54Let me just said that.
06:56Sorry.
07:06Ro, Ro.
07:07Good to see you, man.
07:08Yeah, you too, man.
07:09Yeah.
07:09You look so different.
07:11Yeah, I'm a little older.
07:12No, it's not that.
07:13I don't know.
07:14You're like a different guy.
07:15Something like that.
07:17I think I'm going to cry.
07:18No, no, no crying.
07:19You're going to mess up my makeup.
07:21Oh, I'm sorry I didn't come sooner.
07:23No, don't worry about it.
07:24Really.
07:24I'm just glad to see you guys.
07:27All right, so let's get inside.
07:29I've got food, drinks, cameras, and I'm sorry.
07:34This is so weird.
07:36Hey, it's fine.
07:36We're just happy to see you, bro.
07:38Yeah, me too.
07:39Yeah.
07:39All right, guys, I've got to swap out my battery.
07:42Give me a second.
07:44Okay.
07:44What the hell?
07:54Hold me.
08:05Morris Mackey's throat had been cut.
08:07By the time his body was found, he'd been dead approximately four hours.
08:11And who were your initial suspects?
08:12Everyone who stepped foot in the house that day.
08:14Including Aaron?
08:15Everyone.
08:16Good morning.
08:17Good morning.
08:19It's nice to see you again.
08:20Nice to see you.
08:22I heard you were happy with how the last documentary came out.
08:24Oh, my God.
08:24It was so good.
08:26And I got so many compliments.
08:29Oh, that's great.
08:31How about you?
08:32Didn't see it.
08:33Can we get started?
08:34Uh, yeah.
08:35So tell me what happened when you arrived at the scene.
08:38We were the first responders.
08:45Whoa.
08:48Okay.
08:49It was a frenetic day.
08:51So many people, so many personalities.
08:55But when you're talking a star-studded crime scene with a witness list comprised mostly of influencers,
09:01I guess that's no surprise.
09:03All right, look, even with all those cameras and phones rolling in the house,
09:06none of them caught anything even remotely helpful to our investigation.
09:09Yeah.
09:09Luck, it just wasn't in our cards that day.
09:14What?
09:15Why are you so happy?
09:15I am being colorful.
09:17They will use more of our coverage if we give them evocative sound bites.
09:20I'm right, right?
09:21Can we get back to the murder?
09:23I follow protocols.
09:25You know, I called it in, cleared the house, did everything right.
09:27Mm-hmm.
09:28You believe me, right?
09:29Of course.
09:30I mean, but we have to follow protocol, too.
09:32It's going to be okay.
09:34I can't believe this is happening to me again.
09:36I know.
09:38Are you okay?
09:41I think I'm having like a panic attack.
09:42Oh, okay.
09:43Uh, just sit down, and I'm going to grab you some water, okay?
09:46I'll be right back.
09:47Show's over.
09:47Time to go.
09:48What?
09:49No.
09:50No, no.
09:50No, it's not.
09:51This is my house, my production.
09:53The show goes on.
09:54Connor, keep filming.
09:55Yeah, that's not how this works.
09:56This is my crime scene.
09:58Shut it off now.
10:00Shut it off.
10:01There's nothing we can do.
10:05Well, thanks for coming out.
10:06Yeah.
10:07Our paramedic crew was short-staffed, and since we're all EMT trained, I was subbing in.
10:13But I don't understand why were you called in at all.
10:15He was clearly dead, right?
10:17You have no idea how many people I see look that way and then spring back to life.
10:21Oh, interesting.
10:22And what did you think at the time?
10:24Did it seem to you like Aaron did it?
10:25Of course not.
10:26He would never do anything like that.
10:28Really?
10:29And you're confident saying that, considering your ex-husband?
10:33Wow.
10:35Okay.
10:36Ah, clearly you come prepared.
10:38Yeah, um, I-I married a sociopath once, so maybe I'm not the best judge of character.
10:46It's not about being a good judge of character.
10:47We judge by the facts.
10:49And what do the facts say?
10:51At first, not much.
10:55So how long have you been here filming today?
10:57Oh, three or four hours.
10:59After rehearsal this morning, they had Heverson me in the kitchen getting our hair and makeup
11:03done while they filmed other stuff.
11:04So you were in the kitchen the whole time?
11:06Uh, well, I did sneak off to Crafty once.
11:09Er, four times.
11:11I heard they had ice cream, and I've been dieting like crazy because I was going to be on television,
11:14and I heard the camera odds like 10 pounds.
11:16Is that true?
11:16So when was the last time you saw Morris?
11:19Honestly, I ain't seen him all day.
11:20I was dealing with work stuff right up until we started filming.
11:23And where were you when Morris' body was found?
11:26In my office.
11:27And how would you characterize Aaron's relationship with Morris?
11:34It's important you tell the truth.
11:37They didn't always agree about the direction of the show, but my son, he would never hurt anyone.
11:42Hey, do we really have to do this in here?
11:52Yes, we do, son.
11:55For government code 3300 per live order,
11:58I am required to advise that you do not have the right to remain silent.
12:02Anything you say can and will be is against you.
12:05Refusal to fully and completely answer all of Detective Lopez's questions
12:10will result in immediate termination.
12:14Do you understand?
12:17Yes, sir.
12:18I'm here to protect you as your union representative.
12:22This is your choice, but like Sergeant Gray said,
12:25if you choose not to cooperate, you will lose your job.
12:27Of course I'll cooperate.
12:31Good man.
12:31All right.
12:35I'll leave you to it.
12:40I didn't kill Morris.
12:45When I saw him lying there like Patrick.
12:50I understand, but it was common knowledge that you and Morris weren't on the best of terms.
12:55Who are you with?
12:56TMZ?
12:57Still feeding off my grief?
12:59What are you doing?
13:00Get him out of here, man!
13:01Go!
13:01Get him out of here, now!
13:02Yeah, what he did to Patrick's dad was callous and exploitative, but I wouldn't kill him for it.
13:10Yeah, that was bad.
13:11Aaron pulled over Patrick's dad in a routine car stop.
13:15It was a total random reunion, but Morris and his cameraman were there filming,
13:21and that just made everything worse.
13:23Dexter Hayes, he was a grieving father, you know, and he took a swing at Officer Thorson, so we had to book him, but we let him go as soon as we could.
13:34And, you know, and I thought that would be the end of it, you know, and I thought that would be the end of it.
13:37But you suspected that Patrick's dad could have killed Morris.
13:39We did.
13:40I mean, he was furious about every rose has a... about the reality show.
13:45And after years of the press feeding off of his grief, yeah, it was believable that he could have snapped.
13:51This is absurd. You do know that.
13:54All right, sir, can you tell me where you were yesterday afternoon?
13:57I was in the office, morning to midnight, ask any one of my employees.
14:02I didn't do this.
14:03Any idea who did?
14:05I can tell you that whoever killed that man, his last name is Thorson.
14:11I blame myself for ever letting him into Patrick's life.
14:14They're a sick family, and Aaron is not the only killer among them.
14:18What did he mean by that?
14:19You know what he meant by that.
14:20And we knew, from the reality show, that Morris gave Aaron's father a clear motive.
14:25And that's what I was thinking for the opening theme.
14:28Yeah?
14:29Yeah.
14:29I like it.
14:30You do?
14:31Almost as much as I like you.
14:33Mm-hmm.
14:35He's so sweet.
14:38Hey!
14:39You're good at my wife, man!
14:41Link, it's not what you think.
14:42Boy, you better get the hell up out of here.
14:48What the hell was that?
14:49Are you seriously doing this to me again?
14:52In my own house!
14:53There's footage of Lincoln catching Morris and Ivana in an intimate moment.
14:56That had to factor into your investigation.
14:59Jealousy is a primal motive.
15:01And some believe that Lincoln had killed for jealousy once before.
15:04He was a suspect in a 20-year-old murder, wasn't he?
15:06Yes, he was.
15:07What can you tell me about your father's hip-hop duo, Flex and Flow?
15:15I mean, I was like a baby, you know, when they were at their height.
15:18And, uh, that was the year Make the Noise went platinum.
15:22Flex and Flow had one of the most iconic singles of the late 90s.
15:25Oh, my God.
15:25Make the Noise?
15:26That's like one of my go-to karaoke jams.
15:29My crib is all a-poppin'.
15:31The party's never stoppin'.
15:32Who the boys that make the noise?
15:33Flex and Flow, yo, Flex and Flow.
15:34Can I be interviewed alone?
15:38Yeah, we comin' for you.
15:39My crib is all a-poppin'.
15:41This party's never stoppin'.
15:42Who the boys who make the noise?
15:43Flex and Flow, yo, Flex and Flow.
15:44My crib is all a-poppin'.
15:46This party's never stoppin'.
15:47Who the boys who make the noise?
15:48Flex and Flow, yo, Flex and Flow.
15:50Flex and Flow.
15:52Dope.
15:52Dope.
16:00Oh, yes, that's me.
16:02I was a Flow girl.
16:06Wait, what?
16:06There was a scout who saw me cheering in high school, and he asked me to audition.
16:11At first, I thought he was just trying to get in my pants, but it turned out to be legit,
16:16and it was for Flex and Flow.
16:19I was the biggest fan.
16:21What are you wearing, by the way?
16:22Oh, I teach capoeira on Thursdays and Sundays.
16:26Oh.
16:26Did you ever see Flex and Flow argue while you were working with them?
16:29Mm, I mean, well, sure, but nothing serious.
16:34They were like brothers, and brothers fight.
16:36What do you say to the people who were convinced that your husband killed his late partner?
16:39Oh, honey, this alleged feud between Link and Calvin has gotten blown way out of proportion
16:44over the years.
16:45But what about the night of Calvin's murder, the infamous pre-release party for two hype
16:48homies?
16:49Did the party get a little wild?
16:51Sure.
16:51Did the police come and break it up?
16:53Mm-hmm.
16:54And did Link and Calvin argue?
16:56You bet.
16:57But they were just passionate people, and nobody ever threatened nobody.
17:02Yeah, they threatened each other.
17:05I was there.
17:06I was a rookie officer then.
17:08My T.O. and I got a 415 call for an out-of-control party.
17:13It was a record release event for Flex and Flow.
17:17Anyway, as we were breaking things up, I saw Flex and Flow in each other's faces.
17:22Could you hear what they were fighting about?
17:24No.
17:24As I approached, their limousine was pulling up.
17:27But Flex, I'm sorry, Lincoln, was still very hot.
17:31He refused to get into the limo with Flow.
17:35And, yeah, he said that he'd rather walk than to deal with Flow's nonsense.
17:42It was a good thing, too.
17:43A devastating loss for the music industry today as Calvin Yard, one half of the popular
17:49duo Flex and Flow, was gunned down in Los Angeles last night after leaving his record
17:54launch party.
17:55It couldn't have been more than five minutes later that we got a shots fired call.
18:00As the Flow's limo was making the turn on La Cienega, a car pulled alongside it and
18:06unloaded 20 rounds at the rear of the vehicle.
18:10Flow was shot seven times.
18:13Yeah.
18:17That was my first homicide.
18:19I'll never forget it.
18:20It changes you.
18:22I did not have anything to do with Calvin's death.
18:26But at the time of his murder, all the talk was...
18:28That was garbage, man.
18:30All garbage.
18:31I love Calvin like a brother.
18:32You know, this...
18:33This is straight-up exploitive.
18:35Calvin's murder was solved decades ago, and you know it.
18:38A man named Gary Brown was convicted of Flow's murder.
18:41It turns out, Flow was sleeping with Gary's wife.
18:44So as far as the LAPD was concerned, case closed.
18:48Yeah, but the order of guilt haunted Lincoln's reputation like a dark shroud.
18:52That was really good.
18:56Thanks.
18:58With Lincoln alibied out, you know, the investigation focused on Yvonne.
19:02Mrs. Thorson, how long had you been having an affair with Morris Mackey?
19:05Please.
19:06I was not sleeping with him.
19:08But the footage from every Rosessa Thorson, we saw it.
19:11That was for the show.
19:13Were you saying you staged it?
19:15It's a reality show.
19:16Of course we staged it.
19:18I can prove it.
19:19I have the rest of the footage.
19:20Boy, you better get the hell up out of here.
19:22What the hell was that?
19:27Are you seriously doing this to me again?
19:29In my own house?
19:30You got some nerve.
19:32Let's talk about all the women you slept with when you were flexed.
19:36Cut.
19:38Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
19:40Link.
19:41Buddy.
19:42You're going off script.
19:43I can't believe you're seriously doing this to me again.
19:46That's not the line.
19:47Yeah, man.
19:48I was improv-ing a little.
19:49Yeah, maybe not do that.
19:50Okay?
19:51It's a lot more powerful if this is the first time Yvonne has stepped out on you.
19:54Okay, so, Morris, how did I do?
19:56It was a bit big.
19:57Yeah, maybe dial it back a hair.
20:00Let's go again.
20:02Let go.
20:03We're making a show, people.
20:06None of that was in the footage you turned over to us.
20:09Oops, my bad.
20:11We want everything now, or you'll be arrested for obstruction.
20:15Oh, that was good.
20:17Do you think I can get a copy of that?
20:20That would play really well in the show.
20:22Mrs. Thorson, this is serious.
20:23Morris Mackey was murdered in your house.
20:25Your son is still a suspect.
20:27Just like the police to only focus on what's in front of their nose.
20:31Morris Mackey didn't disappear out of thin air when he started working for me.
20:35Honey, the man had enemies.
20:37We are you!
20:39We are you!
20:40We are you!
20:41We are you!
20:42We are you!
20:43They're the crazy ones!
20:44We're the same ones!
20:46You're the cult!
20:47You're she!
20:48Prior to working with the Thorson family, Morris had been hired by a bunch of QAnon conspiracy theorists.
20:53apparently they didn't like the negative publicity they were getting and they
20:57wanted to show their side try to control the narrative so what happened morris
21:02was allowed into the inner sanctum conducted dozens of interviews with
21:05founders and followers but he didn't make a propaganda film he told the truth
21:09we're in a war every one of us is prepared to start killing for our
21:13freedom morris may have won an emmy but he also pissed off a lot of unhinged and
21:17hyper violent people the storm is coming there will be
21:23I've heard rumors that you have insight into the QAnon angle in this case
21:27have you ever tried to put toothpaste back in the tube look I know it's an
21:32expression but have you actually tried to do it I have it's basically impossible
21:38and what do you think he was trying to tell people with these Q drops these
21:41cryptic messages I really wasn't trying to say anything I was just typing and
21:45maybe I got a little carried away wait what did you say well I guess now is as
21:51good a time as any to reveal it I'm Q Smitty is Q I'm sorry what Lord give me
22:00strength what a lot of writers use pseudonyms Q is my first initial so hey
22:07is my name down there but it was an accident he he didn't start it on purpose
22:14that's what he said yeah sounds like Smitty I was trying to start the fan fiction
22:18club for this is us and things just got out of hand what the hell does this is
22:22us fanfic have to do with a cult I mistakenly mixed cough syrup with diet
22:27pills when I was writing the satanic alien storyline for Jack and Rebecca I woke
22:33up the next morning and read it none of it made sense but overnight I'd gotten so
22:38many followers I just went with it you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
22:42Morris had received threats from hundreds of Q Anon followers but when we started investigating them
22:50one immediately stood out tell me about Connor Hart what about him got your attention well he was
22:56working as a cameraman on the reality show so that Connor thanks for coming
23:02down I'm not in trouble am I no at least I clear a few things up I told you everything I know I was
23:11getting a battery and he was just lying there I'm not sure if you're aware but it's common to run
23:16background checks on witnesses and when we looked into you we discovered that you're a member of Q Anon
23:21no no no I may have gone to a political rally or two but I'm really not into that I swear
23:27the storm is coming there will be retribution
23:35so clearly you are a follower of Q why would you work for Morris honestly I realized Morris was the
23:47best thing that could have happened to the movement that makes no sense but it does Morris's documentary
23:53exposed who was a true believer and who wasn't he never admitted it but I think Morris was working
24:01for Q that's why I followed him to the next gig do you still consider yourself a believer of Q well some
24:07stuff didn't come true London bombing Pope's arrest Zuckerberg still has a job January 20th came and went
24:15March 4th came and went I'm starting to think Kennedy is still dead both of them so you don't believe
24:24in Q anymore oh I believe every word Connor was um deranged let's say reality challenged which doesn't
24:34make him a killer no and the fact that he had a camera on his shoulder for the entire murder window
24:39means that he couldn't have killed Morris so we were back to square one when the QAnon lead didn't pan
24:45out how did you pick up the pieces of the case we rolled up our sleeves and put in the hours we took
24:50on the painstaking process of reviewing every piece of video Morris shot in the weeks before he died
24:56including the footage Yvonne forgot to give us until I found something that changed everything
25:02Lopez come look at this so I immediately informed detective Lopez of what I discovered look at I just found
25:11I thought I knew everything about Patrick's murder I had done my homework but the truth
25:28was hiding right in front of me all this time I know who killed Patrick Hayes and I can prove it
25:36someone's here
25:40more to follow that video was recorded minutes before Morris was murdered
25:46I mean Morris claiming that he knew who the killer was must have been energizing for you finally a break in
25:54your roommate's murder he he wasn't my roommate and I hate when people call him that you know like we found
26:02each other on some French Craigslist or something like that Patrick was my best friend from the time that we were
26:06little kids I mean I was at his house so often his dad bought us two of everything you know like siblings yeah Patrick was my
26:12brother how did it feel to hear that Morris thought he discovered who killed Patrick I mean there have
26:18been so many theories over the years and so many people think that they had it figured out I just never
26:26really got my hopes up about it this was different though I mean he made a break in the case and died
26:30minutes later you have to see the connection well in the words of detective Harper we look for facts not stories yeah
26:40sure but I mean the timing I mean these murders had to be related whoever killed Patrick also killed Morris
26:46is it possible Morris found out that Aaron was the killer all along not a chance the Paris police never
26:51had a shred of evidence against Aaron they fumbled the entire case right after the bat the paparazzi
26:57completely contaminated the crime scene
26:59but Aaron's DNA was all over the murder web you mean the knife the killer pulled from the kitchen
27:20block on Aaron and Patrick's counter what what do you want to bet that if we went to your house we'd find
27:25your DNA all over your stuff too I'm was that too mean no it actually felt good it's a dumb question
27:35from the beginning the French police's case against Aaron seemed flawed oh yeah their case was a mess
27:40and their forensics were compromised I mean the theory that Aaron killed Patrick because he didn't do his
27:46share of the chores never made sense for one thing they had a housekeeper for another Aaron is not a
27:51psychopath which you would have to be to stab your roommate for leaving dirty dishes in the sink
27:54I mean I've come close to stabbing him over dirty dishes but that's different we're married
28:01what do you say to the theory that Aaron had a falling out with his roommate Aaron and Patrick
28:07were out partying that night does that sound like a broken friendship careening towards murder by his own
28:12admission Aaron was taking prescription drugs yeah for a football injury he got in high school
28:17they impair your ability to operate heavy machinery not not turn you into a hardened killer Aaron passed out
28:25early woke up in the middle of night went to pee and found Patrick's body
28:40the French police took one look at a young black man and decided he was the killer I mean they didn't
28:46even pursue any other suspects bonjour I appreciate you speaking with me your accent it's terrible
28:51um detective you've been accused of leading an incredibly biased investigation
28:56we follow the facts hmm and the fact that Patrick picked up a woman at the club that night
29:02Colette Levine she was seen leaving the apartment before the time of death understand what about her jealous
29:10controlling boyfriend did you interview him no we did not hmm but the thing that ultimately got
29:18you released from prison was the identification of this man yeah Colette's boyfriend Julian handsome French
29:25and you know let's just say you're super white you know what is what is finance bro in French shouldn't
29:33you know that you spent years in France yeah but I didn't retain it it was actually a group of internet
29:40sleuths who found Colette's boyfriend they spent countless hours investigating Aaron's case yes they
29:46also pointed the finger at dozens of innocent people ruining their lives yes some members of the group took it a
29:51little too far we've been looking at the internet sleuths actually any chance you post under the title
29:57true crime junkie that that that doesn't I think I might have logged on once once or twice yeah seriously
30:08I mean can you not see how people would take that as a clear sign of bias I categorically denied any
30:14preferential treatment okay how can you say that with a straight face when it was revealed that Julian
30:19was the son of the French finance minister are you telling me you didn't get a phone call asking
30:23oh come on don't do that come back so it must have been frustrating to learn that the French police
30:32knew his identity before your first trial and didn't say anything I mean yeah the the good news was that
30:38the fact that they ignored Julian they got me my retrial but the bad news was the unidentified DNA on
30:47the knife it didn't belong to Julian so he you know he had an alibi as horrible as the experience was is
30:52there anything that you actually miss from that time and miss God no well Carlos Carlos yeah Carlos the
31:04Jackal he was my cellmate and uh man he has some stories so you're saying that the Jackal got you
31:11through your year and a half of incarceration no my mom did yeah I don't I don't think I would have
31:17got through it without her um she actually leased an apartment in Paris until I was released and she
31:26visits me every week and I tell you what if they would have let her she would have been over there
31:30every day of course I moved to Paris I'm his mother I would have served the prison time for him if I
31:36could you're a close family we are we've been tested were you close with Patrick yes I adored
31:44him he's a wonderful boy according to your friends you thought Patrick was a troublemaker and a bad
31:49influence on Aaron anyone who said that was lying Yvonne were you in Paris the day Patrick was murdered
31:55of course not I was here in LA how do you explain this footage taken the day of Patrick's murder
32:03oh hell no this interview is over no no we did not okay this question who do you think you are
32:19you fired I actually don't work for you you need to kiss my ass
32:23did you know that your mother was in Paris the day that Patrick was killed
32:28what no she was she was home in LA we have footage of her shopping on the chandelier the
32:36night of the murder okay well that's impossible isn't this her
32:40okay
32:51officer Thorson come back come on let's finish this interview
32:56hey there he is you lied to me you lied to everyone I didn't want all my private business
33:04out there for all the world to see mom you are literally producing a reality show about our lives
33:08that's different I was on trial for murder fighting for my life exactly the fact that I was even in
33:15Paris on that night how does that help you and what was your reaction to the revelation that Aaron's
33:19mother was in Paris at the time of the murder like bombshell game changer I mean none of this stuff
33:24came out at the time of the trial this is it's so exciting what it means for the case not for Aaron
33:29his mom lied to him yes that well that is true thanks for coming back in we just need to clear
33:38something up about the night Patrick was killed Patrick I thought this was about Morris's murder
33:43oh it's about both see you felt Patrick was a bad influence on your son so you flew Aaron to Paris to
33:50separate them only Patrick followed Aaron there so you took matters into your own hands you flew to
33:56Paris you killed Patrick but somehow Morris found out so to keep your deadly secret you killed him too
34:03yeah that's a fun theory good story but you're wrong then explain why you went to Paris and why you kept it a secret
34:14because I was with a Jean-Pierre Darby who the footballer yes we met a month before at a fashion show in Milan
34:22I'm sorry you went to Paris for an international booty call yes and we were in bed all night
34:29asking hell ask the neighbors they were determined to convict you had it come out that I was in town
34:38they would have used it against you said that we were conspiring to kill Patrick coming clean would
34:43have only hurt your case made it worse yeah you know what I forgot how good you are at that
34:47at what at justifying yourself you lied in the murder trial you cheated on your husband and now
34:54you're the hero right yeah sure mom we'll go with that you accused Aaron's mother of the murder with
35:05almost no evidence to back it up I I did and uh in my defense I'd been scrubbing reality show footage
35:13for over 200 hours at that point so who broke the case oh that was detective Lopez my wife is a
35:20badass we knew the murders were connected and we knew that Patrick's murder in Paris was never
35:24properly investigated so I dug back into that case right now I'm just trying to build a timeline
35:30getting to know more about Patrick's life what did the four of you do that last month no details too
35:36small um let's ask me I can tell you one thing that we definitely didn't do go to class I mean
35:44Aaron's parents let him borrow their private jet anytime he wanted so we went all around Europe I
35:49mean Italy Greece French Riviera can I see yeah I thought screw school when am I ever gonna get to visit
35:59planet rich again right so Santorini for the weekend yes please these photos of you guys on
36:05the tarmac you always have so much luggage I know everyone always acted like it was the Oregon Trail
36:11why every time I've seen him he was wearing a golf tee and jeans not exactly a clothes horse oh uh true
36:19I wonder what was in there did you ever see Rowan with drugs back then I mean yeah he was always kind
36:26of the life of the party if you know what I mean why before Paris Rowan's family in Iowa was in
36:31financial trouble he almost dropped out of school now he lives in Brentwood and drives a Porsche I guess
36:37I I I see you're very excited and I love that I'm I'm not really following
36:43hey Nolan where's Rowan uh he just left why I thought you were done with him I was until I realized he's the
36:53one who killed Patrick all right here we go there we go nice nice bro it's been crazy I've had like
37:01half a million followers from all the publicity what you think uh you think uh Aaron did it of course
37:07you did it the guy's a total psycho okay watch this okay hold on I'm gonna do it again okay okay
37:17Rowan what the hell we got a warrant for your arrest what for what for the murders of Patrick Hayes and
37:27Morris Mackey oh snap that's crazy and wrong I didn't why would you even think that because Patrick found
37:34out you were smuggling drugs and Aaron's private jet and threatened to tell the police somehow
37:38Morris found out that you killed Patrick to protect your secret so you killed him too come on that's
37:43I mean it's so so wrong hey Rowan Rowan okay oh snap you okay all right you're fine stand up
38:02put it down you're under arrest Rowan always had these crazy plans you know let's go to Morocco or
38:10dude I heard about this sick party in Ibiza and I I never thought about it but he was the one who
38:19decided where we were flying to always and you know now looking back at it with cop eyes I mean
38:24it is so obvious that Rowan was up to something I just could never see it
38:31I mean Patrick did though but look why why why didn't he tell me you know we talked about everything
38:42and why wouldn't he why wouldn't he tell me about this you know if he had
38:48everything everything would have been so different
38:54Aaron
39:03is it true yes sir Rowan Clawson confessed to murdering Patrick
39:16I'm so sorry I didn't believe you
39:21can you ever forgive me
39:25of course
39:29after all this time the case of who killed Patrick Hayes was finally solved but the question that
39:41lingers is is whether the emotional wounds will heal
39:45it feels gross right yeah
39:52two people were dead even after you catch the guy it's still just awful I'm just glad the truth finally
40:02came out Aaron's innocence is now proven without a doubt he deserves to move on with the rest of his life
40:09and we'll be here to help him do that and now that it's over what's your view of Aaron Thorson
40:15uh-huh I will admit it took a minute for Aaron to win me over but once he did I knew he'd be a good cop
40:23all right I'm done uh wait this is not gonna air before his training is done right because I gotta I gotta keep him hungry
40:32I never once stopped believing in my boy
40:36has he forgiven you for the lie
40:38he will
40:40there's nothing our family can't get through
40:42it looks like Aaron will finally be able to put all this behind him
40:45that's that's not really how it works
40:47I mean as someone who has had friends killed you never really get closure
40:53all you can hope for is that the memories of them the the good times you had together are what you see when you think about
41:02how does it feel having the truth come out after all these years
41:05I I don't know it's still sinking in
41:10this is obviously gonna make compelling episodes of your reality show
41:13oh no that every rose has a Thorson is not moving forward I mean it was it was a mistake to do in the first place
41:21yeah I mean the only reason why I did agree to it was to rehabilitate my image
41:26but ironically it ended up doing something even better which was uncover the truth
41:34so what are you gonna do now?
41:36say what I need to hear
41:39might be dark right now
41:41but the light is here
41:43live
41:45for myself
41:47and for Patrick
41:49mm-hmm
42:04damn it
42:19I'll see you next time.