00:00It was a mixture of fear and respect. And if we hurt or killed one another, so what?
00:19They were destined, from little boys, to be leaders. They were two people, but in one person.
00:28They took the East End to Knightsbridge, but of course they burned the place, they burned everything.
00:34They were both bisexual. Reggie knew Frances, I think, from the age of about 14. All she ever wanted to be, was to be with him.
00:44Ronnie hated that.
00:46The mother had something to do with Frances' death, because Frances got pregnant. Nobody knows that.
00:55That's right. They wanted to be gangsters. They set out to be gangsters.
01:02I told Ronnie Cray afterwards, I said, she'd never done that. I'd gone in that pub and she'd have waited for Georgia Cornell to come out if they wanted to show you.
01:11Ronnie Cray was a sick manic-depressive, all rolled in one.
01:16But there's only two people on Earth that could stop him, and that was Violet Cray and Reggie.
01:23If they put me and my brother in a cell with them two, there's only two people coming out, and that's me and my brother.
01:29I thought they should be ironed out, to be honest. That was dangerous to everybody.
01:34If they hadn't been arrested when they were, that's what would have happened.
01:38Listen, if I can get nicked over this, you better pay my defence money. That's exclusive.
