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Heated Senate Clash: Hegseth and Slotkin Spar Over Alleged Trump Order to Shoot Protesters
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18/6/2025
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I said in your hearing, when you had your confirmation hearing, that my biggest concern
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with you at the helm was the potential use of the military in ways that contradict the
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Constitution or that taint what I hope we all want, which is an apolitical military.
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And when I asked you about whether you would accept an order that was actually given to
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your predecessor, Secretary Esper, Trump SecDef, to deploy active duty troops against unarmed
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protesters and to, in Secretary Esper's words, shoot at them, shoot at their legs, you said
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this was all theoretical.
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Here we are a few months later, you've deployed 4,700 troops to Los Angeles against the wishes
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of the governor.
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And my colleague across the aisle was right.
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It is the first time since 1965 that we have deployed guard troops without the permission
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of the governor.
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In all the instances he laid out, the president had sent in the military to protect protesters,
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not against the protesters.
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So you may dismiss it, but I feel like this is a fundamental issue of American democracy.
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If you love your country and you want an apolitical military, then it should be the last resort,
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not the first resort in our country to use them.
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So to get to the non-theoretical, have you authorized the uniformed military to detain
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or arrest protesters in Los Angeles?
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Senator, I would just start by saying you're not a protester if you're throwing concrete
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at law enforcement officers.
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100%.
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Arrest those people.
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Throw them in the jail.
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100%.
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But what you're doing is something different.
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Everyone knows this is a political decision, right?
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So we don't trust that you're using the best interests of the military, certainly, and of
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democracy on top of that.
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So have you given the order?
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That's all I want to know.
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It's not theoretical.
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For the U.S. military, military, not law enforcement, they can arrest all day long.
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That's the job.
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Do they have the ability, the uniformed military, to arrest and detain protesters currently today?
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It's a yes or no thing.
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Authority.
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It's sort of amusing the extent to which the speculation is out there.
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These troops are given very clear orders.
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Then what is the order?
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Then list it out for us.
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Be a man.
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List it out.
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Did you authorize them to detain or arrest?
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That is a fundamental issue of democracy.
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I'm not trying to be a snot here.
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I'm just trying to get the actual.
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Did you authorize them to do that?
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All of these orders and what they're sent there to do are public.
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They're there to-
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Okay, so say it.
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So say it.
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Yes or no?
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I'd like to.
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Please.
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Yes or no.
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As I've said time and time again through interruption, they're there to protect law enforcement,
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ICE officers, who are trying to do their job deporting illegals who were allowed in by
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the previous administration.
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So they cannot arrest and detain citizens of the United States, the uniformed military.
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As we've stated, if necessary, in their own self-defense, they could temporarily detain
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and hand over to ICE.
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But there's no arresting going on.
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And you know this better than if you're trying to play political games, there's no arresting
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of U.S. personnel.
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Of the U.S. military against members of the protest.
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Have you authorized U.S. military cyber tools to investigate people participating in
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these protests?
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Yes or no?
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Certainly in no way that I'd be aware of.
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Okay, that's good.
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I love that answer.
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That's great.
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Have you given the order to be able to shoot at unarmed protesters in any way?
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I'm just asking the question.
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Don't laugh.
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Like the whole country.
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And by the way, my colleagues across the aisle-
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What is that based on?
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What evidence would you have that an order like that has ever been given?
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It is based on Donald Trump giving that order to your predecessor, to a Republican
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secretary of defense who I give a lot of credit to because he didn't accept the order.
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He had more guts and balls than you because he said, I'm not going to send in the uniformed
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military to do something that I know in my gut isn't right.
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He was asked to shoot at their legs.
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He wrote that in his book.
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That's not hearsay.
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So your poo-pooing of this, it just shows you don't understand who we are as a country,
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who we are.
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And all of my colleagues across the aisle, especially the ones that served, should want
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an apolitical military and not want citizens to be scared of their own military.
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I love the military.
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I served alongside my whole life.
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So I'm worried about you tainting it.
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Have you given the order?
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Have you given the order that they can use lethal force against honor?
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I want the answer to be no.
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Please tell me it's no.
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Have you given the order?
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Senator, I'd be careful what you read in books and believing it, except for the Bible.
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Oh my God.
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So your former predecessor, I guess that's not enough for you.
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Okay.
04:42
On Iran, I don't think there's a debate.
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There's like a catfight going on in your own party about whether to go after Iran.
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Have you commissioned any day after planning?
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So any force protection, any use of ground troops in Iran, any cost assessments?
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Because I don't think we doubt what we can do as a country in the attack.
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It's the day after with Iraq and Afghanistan that so many of us have learned to be so deeply
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concerned about.
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Have you authorized day after planning?
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As I've said, we have plans for everything, Senator.
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Okay.
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And I would also reiterate how we began, that there will be a classified portion of this
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15 minutes after we adjourn.
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Senator Banks, you're recognized.
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