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There is a huge divide occurring between younger men and women (20s and 30s), and it seems almost irreparable. They’re having a difficult time forming relationships, getting married, having children, etc. I see both men and women in thar age group discussing their travails and many are becoming very discouraged and want to give up. What advice do you have to repair this issue?


Any tips for a married man to maintain maximum sexual attraction to his wife?


Thoughts on Jordan Peterson's descent into madness


You once mentioned that you were noodling the idea that boys raised by single mothers tend toward leftism as a defense mechanism to defend their mothers. Did you get anywhere with that?


How does modern brainwashing work on smart educated people?


Q: Can reason and rhetoric ever truly be separated? If so, is that a wise or foolish thing to attempt?


If I support my own Mother having smacked me, is that le trauma?
I find it very easy to justify it from her position.


Quick question, under UPB, there are 3 test to check if the standard of morality is correct; put 2 guys in a room test, the coma patient test as well as the everybody being able to be moral at the same time. Are there more ways to check?


Hello... what is the most important thing in the entire universe?


Hi Stef, a long time big fan of the show here.
Given the increasingly "woke" nature of Christianity, not just in the Protestant circles but also the Catholic Church, do you think Christianity will fade out like the old Pagan faiths?


If free will doesn't exist, should we nonetheless act as tho it does?


Explain exactly why we shouldn't round up 95% of Walmart customers & place them into forced labor camps. They're fat, lifeless, & cost billions in added Healthcare expenses annually.
Discipline must be drilled into people Stef, including our children


Is there a step by step series/exposition for peaceful parenting I could send to a friend?
I sent the website but they didn't know where to start


Can you touch on what 2020 did to freedom of speech in general. I think the amount of coerced censorship and self-censorship shocked many of us. How did the YouTube ban effect you personally from a self-censorship perspective?

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00:00Good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well. Getting some great questions from
00:03X. I'm back on X. You can find me at Stefan Molyneux on X. A woman writes, a mother writes,
00:10there is a huge divide occurring between younger men and women, 20s and 30s, and it seems almost
00:15irreparable. They're having a difficult time forming relationships, getting married,
00:20having children, etc. I see both men and women in that age group discussing their travails,
00:25and many are becoming very discouraged and want to give up. What advice do you have to repair this
00:30issue? It's a big issue, and I sympathize, and I think I understand. So here's what's important
00:35to understand from a sort of real big perspective. Everything plus political power gets corrupted.
00:43Political power is like the ring in Lord of the Rings. It sort of corrupts. Now, women have greater
00:50access to political power than men. Women vote more. They vote longer because they live longer,
00:54and so on. So the state is now run to a large degree by female voters. Now, both masculinity
01:03and femininity, which are beautiful in their natural state and have united to get us out of the trough of
01:09our animal natures to the higher conceptual realms that we now inhabit, we can think and reason and
01:14all that. So men and women have teamed together to produce all of us over time, which is an amazing
01:19accomplishment, unprecedented in Earth's history and perhaps in the universe's history. We don't know.
01:26But the beauty of masculinity and femininity, the beauty and power, gets corrupted by political
01:32power. So for instance, if you take masculinity and you mix it in with the power of the state,
01:38you get fascism. When you take femininity and you mix it in with the power of the state,
01:44you get socialism slash communism. One is hyper-masculinity, which is masculinity enhanced
01:51by the state, and the other is hyper-femininity, which is femininity enhanced by the state.
01:57So the way that women are corrupted by political power is through flattery. Men have their weakness,
02:08which tends to be sex and status, and women have their weaknesses, which tend to be conformity
02:13and vanity. So politicians praise women, praise girls at the expense of boys. And so boys get depressed,
02:25alienated, and video game or pornography addicts, and women get arrogant and superior and, you know,
02:34a tad on the insufferable side. These are general trends. There's tons of exceptions.
02:41Now, self-discipline means learning how to resist the temptations of flatterers. People are controlled
02:53more by flattery than by force, at least in the modern world, as it stands. So teaching girls that those
03:04who flatter them are the most likely to exploit them is really important. Flattery is difficult and
03:13dangerous for girls, in particular because when you're young, as a woman, everybody wants to date
03:18you, to defer to you, to bring you presents, to give you gifts, to have sex with you, and so on.
03:23And being in the presence of that kind of demand is really, really hard for men to understand.
03:30I can't imagine if I was upset in public that everybody would absolutely rally around me and
03:38support me and hug me and, right? Males upset is just something that you have to man up and deal
03:43with, but women's upset has to be accommodated, again, in the political realm in particular.
03:48And that is too much power. It's too much power for anyone. The incandescent desirability
03:57of young women is supposed to be tamed through marriage, right? So women are young and beautiful
04:02and attractive, and then they're supposed to. It's supposed to last like maybe six or 12 months.
04:06Then you get married, you have kids, and you sort of move on with your life. But now that level of
04:13hyper-attractiveness, which again is a beautiful thing, I have no issues with it, can last on and on
04:20and on. Women can, you know, you see women in their 40s posting duck-faced selfie pics to post thirst
04:26traps and so on. So they're, you know, 20 plus years into milking looks, which is supposed to be a
04:35young woman's game designed to attract a husband and be the foundation of the family. So, of course,
04:40the way that women get corrupted is the media and the state and all of that basically tell them two
04:50contradictory things. Number one, you should be absolutely equal to men, and not just in terms of
04:57political equality, which of course nobody can argue with that women should have exactly the same rights
05:01as men. So you should be equal to men in terms of outcomes. And for women to be equal to men in terms
05:07of particularly economic outcomes requires a significant amount of political intervention.
05:13The only way that women can be completely equal to men is if women don't have children,
05:17in which case you get equality, and then that's the end of your civilization. Because to take time
05:23off to have and raise children, women are going to have to give up certain economic incomes, right,
05:27and rely on men. So what you do is you say to women, you should be absolutely equal to men in terms
05:32of outcomes, and you should never settle and you deserve the best. So if you want to be equal to men,
05:40and then you also want men to do better than you are, then you are going to be perpetually dissatisfied,
05:46and you're never really going to settle down. So if you are raising girls, then you need to teach them
05:52that they're going to get flattered by the media, they're going to get flattered by politicians,
05:57they're going to get flattered all over the place, and recognize that the flattery
06:02based upon looks and desirability is almost certainly manipulative. That they should be praised
06:11for their virtues, not flattered for their desirability. And to raise women to choose virtue
06:18over vanity is tough. It's as tough as raising men to value virtues, virtue over status, and all of that,
06:28and power. So trying to uncouple young women from the sort of steady kind of heroin-like drip of praise
06:42and flattery is tough. Because it's very easy to get addicted to money and power for men, and it's very easy
06:50in status, and it's very easy for women to get addicted to flattery and vanity. And again, these are
06:57perfectly healthy in a way men should seek some kind of status, and women, of course, need to be desired
07:03in order to build families. So there's nothing wrong with these instincts, but when they're combined
07:09with political power, things tend to go kind of rancid. So I think that men need to re-engage with
07:18the world and recognize that for most boys, and I had Dr. Warren Farrell on years ago to talk about
07:24this sort of boy crisis, the media, and in particular the educational system,
07:31views at best boys as broken girls. The girls are the ideal, and boys are loud, obnoxious,
07:39annoying, intrusive, restless, and all of that, to the point where, I don't know, countless boys are being
07:44drugged for failing to find school interesting. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine some director
07:50putting out a movie, and if the audience isn't particularly interested in them, in the movie,
07:54he then drugs them so that they are kind of paralyzed, and their boredom vaporizes? I mean,
08:01that would just be unholy, but we do that. So it's important to talk, if you've been raising boys,
08:07and if you've had them in particular in structured and particularly government schools, it's important
08:13to talk to them about their experiences and what happened. If you can get women to understand that
08:20flattery, particularly from political power and media power, is manipulating them, then you can get them
08:29to pursue virtue rather than vanity, and if you can get boys to young men to recognize that the insults
08:37that they have received, usually over the course of their education and through the media, are there
08:41to suppress them, and they should not give in. You should not give in to insults. All right.
08:48Any tips for a married man to maintain maximum sexual attraction to his wife?
08:52Sure. That's actually pretty easy. Eat well and exercise. Eat well, that's all it is. Eat well
09:01and exercise. So you want to try and maintain your physical attractiveness as long as humanly possible.
09:07I mean, eventually we all fall off the cliff, but maintain your physical attractiveness as long
09:13as possible. So a marriage is a monopoly, right? I mean, you make vows that you are each other's
09:20sole sexual partners for the rest of your lives. And monopoly often breeds complacency.
09:28You know, like if some company gets a monopoly from the government, well, the customer service
09:35tends to go down a smidge because they're guaranteed their income. Somebody's work ethic tends to diminish
09:41a little bit if they have a tough job and then they win the lottery, then they go in and quit their job
09:44or whatever, right? So the way that a lot of people respond to a monopoly, and this is, you know,
09:51the sort of famous thing that you're attractive and then you get married and you kind of go to
09:56seat, right? You get a pot belly or the woman gains weight or you stop exercising and so on.
10:01Because you're like, okay, well, I'm not out there in the sexual marketplace competing.
10:05This also happens, of course, it's kind of famous when women get divorced. The first thing they do is
10:09go back to the gym and so on. So the way that I think you want to view it as a married man and as
10:16a married woman is a monopoly breeds greater responsibility, not less, right? Greater
10:22responsibility, not less. So you have a monopoly over your children because they're your children
10:27and that should breed greater moral considerations, not less. And so with regards to sexual attraction
10:36within a marriage, you should work as hard or harder as you did when you were single to maintain
10:42your level of attractiveness for your partner. Not to mention, of course, that if you exercise and
10:49maintain a healthy weight, that's good for your sex drive, that's good for your erections and so on. So
10:55just recognize that having a monopoly means that you should do better and you should work harder to
11:02maintain health and so on. And so should your wife. All right. Thoughts on Jordan Peterson's descent
11:11into madness? No, I do not consider Jordan Peterson to be descending into madness. There is,
11:18this is not particular to Jordan Peterson, but I did watch his debate versus 20 atheists.
11:24It's a big topic, so I'll just touch on it briefly here, but there is a tendency
11:29for smart people to complicate things, to be perceived as smart because you're complicating
11:37things. Like I remember when I was debating, sorry, when I was debating Walsh many years ago,
11:44he was like, the Industrial Revolution came about as a result of an incredibly complicated series of
11:48events. It's like, no, it didn't. It really didn't. It really didn't. The Industrial Revolution
11:53came about because human slavery and serfdom were ended. And so the cost of labor became
11:59increasingly important. Therefore, labor-saving devices were implemented. I mean, if you buy a
12:03bunch of slaves, you don't want to implement labor-saving devices, low is the value of your
12:06investment. So they ended slavery, and that was the foundation. Because that's the one thing that
12:10had never happened before in human history, and right after you get the Industrial Revolution,
12:13it's not that complicated.
12:13So there is this desire to overcomplicate. When you have kids, like little kids, you want to tell
12:24them what's real, you want to tell them what's true, you want to tell them what's good. And a lot
12:27of the what's real and what's true, they will understand in and of themselves. What's good is a
12:33little less instinctive. But you need to be, and I talked about this in the spaces yesterday, you need
12:39to be able to explain to children what is true and what is real and what is good by starting it by the
12:44age of three or four. And if it's like, you know, it's complicated, a balancing of altruism and
12:50consequentialism and majority will and majority rule balanced with the rights of the individual,
12:55it's like, forget it. I mean, kids can't understand it. And adults can't be expected to follow it.
13:02You have to be able to stretch down your ethics to people who aren't as smart as you are.
13:06Of course, right? When I first started working in computers at the age of 11 or 12, it was all
13:13command lines. And it's like, you know, DQ bang A on tandem and all the grep stuff that goes on on
13:19Linux and so on. Like there are some people who love booting up to a flashing cursor and a black
13:24screen of ASCII challenges. Okay, fine. But there are lots of people who aren't particularly smart
13:30enough or aren't particularly interested enough to get into command line, this, that, or the other.
13:38And so you have GUIs, you have touch screens, and you make the computers easier to use. And it's the
13:46same thing with ethics, right? If you want your ethics to be adopted by people as a whole, it has
13:50to be explainable to children and it has to be explainable to people less intelligent than you are.
13:54So, there is a great, it is the great temptation of intellectuals to pretend that they're smart
14:02because they complicate things. And that it's all Aristotelian balance and it's in the mean and
14:09there's these considerations and those. But that's not how we teach ethics to children, right?
14:13Don't hit, don't steal, don't lie. We tell to children.
14:18So, you've got to have simple ways of explaining these things. And I've done all of that for many
14:25years. The purpose of high intelligence is to make complexity understandable to the average or
14:36even the below average. The purpose of high intelligence is to clarify and simplify. It takes
14:44a high degree of intelligence to create a GUI touchscreen interface. I mean, there's the
14:51physics and the engineering of the touchscreen, there's all of the icon design, right? So, it takes
14:57a high degree of intelligence to create a touchscreen GUI graphical user interface.
15:05And the reason that you do that is it makes the power of computers accessible to the average person
15:10who's not a hobbyist and doesn't like things to be complicated. The purpose of what I've done for
15:1540 years, 20 in the public eye, is to take philosophy and make it comprehensible and applicable
15:21in practical, material, measurable ways to benefit people's lives. I am the shiny touchscreen GUI interface
15:29for philosophy. And so, if you can't break down most of your arguments, I'm not talking about,
15:38you know, something like disproving simulation theory or arguments of free will. Although,
15:43I really think I would take on the challenge, and maybe I will at some point, to bring those down
15:48to people. But I had a podcast called The ABCs of UPB. You can find that at fdrpodcast.com. And this
15:56is me explaining rational ethics to a child. And I, two or three years old, my daughter, I was explaining
16:02UPB to her, and she got it, no problem. So, I don't know about madness, but I do think that,
16:09you know, it depends what, when Jordan Peterson is like, well, it depends what you mean by believe.
16:14It's like, well, an idea in your mind that you hold to be true, independent of your consciousness,
16:20right? So, that should not be super complicated. It shouldn't be super complicated to explain
16:26what reality is, what truth is, and what virtue is. It should be disarmingly simple. And if it's
16:32not disarmingly simple, you've gone wrong somewhere. Because we ask children to know what
16:39is true, right? Because when we say, don't lie, we're saying, look, as a little kid, you have the
16:44ability to tell what is true, and you have the ability to choose whether to tell the truth or to
16:48lie. So, we've got to have reality, truth, and morality, explainable to little kids. If we can't
16:54explain it to little kids, we can't ask them to follow it, right? You wouldn't say to a little
16:57kid, well, in order to have your dinner, you have to be able to understand quadratic equations or
17:03quantum mechanics or something like that. That would just be cruel. I mean, dangling, you know,
17:08something that they couldn't possibly reach to get. So, I think the great temptation is to dissolve
17:16the clarity of incisive rationality into this fog of complexity, and then everybody
17:24wanders in and gets lost, and then you have no right whatsoever to inflict truth, reality,
17:33and morality on children if you can't explain it to children. All right.
17:38How does modern brainwashing work on smart, educated people? So, brainwashing is a simple
17:47mechanism of punishment and reward. So, they say, if you say X, whatever outlandish and anti-rational
17:56and anti-empirical statement they're going to make, if you say X, you will be praised and rewarded.
18:04You know, you'll get your professorship, you'll be maybe in the media, your friends will praise and
18:10reward you and so on. So, it's just kibbles, right? It's sticks and carrots. So, if you say X, which is
18:17not true and absurd and obviously not true, then you will be praised and rewarded. If you oppose X or
18:24you don't affirm it, you will be punished, you will be deplatformed, you will be ostracized, your friends
18:30won't like you, your family might turn on you, and so on, right? So, that is how propaganda and
18:37brainwashing works. Smart, educated people want to do well. Smart, educated people can usually see
18:42further into the consequences of their choices. So, what you do is you just say to people, well,
18:49we have money and status and power and jobs and resources and we'll give them to you if you affirm
18:54this ridiculous, absurd thing. And if you don't affirm this ridiculous and absurd thing, we will
19:00F you up. Like, we will mess you up. You won't get the tenureship, you won't get the job,
19:05the girls won't date you, the women won't like you, and your friends will turn on you. And, you
19:10know, we saw all of this in the political realm and we've seen it in the healthcare realm and so on,
19:13right? But smart, educated people don't like to look in the mirror and say, well, I'm basically just
19:21like a rat in a maze avoiding the mousetrap and getting the cheese. I'm just bribed and threatened
19:28in order to hold the moral opinions, quote, moral opinions that I hold. They don't like to look in the
19:33mirror and say, I'm just a reward-seeking, protoplasm, bald biped, right? So, they have to
19:43say, once you get, once you threaten people and reward people into saying absurd things,
19:48then they have to, almost like it's ex post-factor rationalization, they have to say,
19:54well, I'm a good person, right? That's, and they don't, they say I'm a good person foundationally
19:59rather than I have to earn being good through the consistent application and promotion of virtue.
20:04They say, well, I'm a good person. If I believe X, X must be good rather than I'm a person who's
20:12responding as most animals do to punishments and rewards. So, I'll just say absurd things because
20:20I don't want to be punished and I like to be rewarded as we all do, right? Which is why we need
20:26the discipline of virtue. I mean, if you ate like your tongue just wanted to, you would be unhealthy,
20:32right? Because what the tongue likes, often the body doesn't and what the body likes, the tongue
20:36often doesn't, right? So, if I were to say, well, I'm just going to follow eating whatever I like
20:42and I'm going to call it healthy, nutritious food, I would be wrong. We need the discipline of nutrition
20:47because our tongue often motivates us to eat badly, right? Kids prefer candy to vegetables,
20:55obviously, right? So, we need the discipline of virtue so that we can surmount the punishment
21:01reward system that characterizes almost all of human history and, I mean, there's heaven and hell
21:06too, right? So, educated people are subtly or sometimes not so subtly, and we all are,
21:16promised rewards if we affirm absurdity, threatened with punishments if we don't,
21:22and then when people take the route of affirming absurdities for the sake of avoiding punishment
21:26and achieving a reward, they don't want to look themselves in the mirror and say, well,
21:32that's what I'm doing. So, what they do is they say, well, that must be the good because I'm a good
21:36person and if I believe that, that must be the good. And then the circle is complete, the conscience
21:42is destroyed, and social misery ensues. All right, can reason and rhetoric ever truly be separated?
21:48If so, is that a wise or foolish thing to attempt? Rhetoric is being able to put forward a convincing,
21:57well-illustrated argument. And, I mean, there's other ways to define rhetoric, but I assume that
22:04you're using the common parlance, right? So, rhetoric is the ability to make an argument seem convincing,
22:11and it usually has to do with an appeal to emotion and vivid analogies. Vivid analogies are fine,
22:18they're not proof, they're just illustrations. Vivid analogies are like a nice paint job on a car,
22:22it doesn't make it drive better, all other things being equal, but it makes it more appealing
22:30and more likely to be sold. Look at that, I just made an, okay, you understand. So, no, I don't think
22:35they should truly be separated because if you have a great argument, you have a responsibility to that
22:40argument to present it in a way that is appealing and consumable. All right. Somebody said, if I support
22:47my own mother having smacked me, is that la trauma? I find it very easy to justify it from her position.
22:55I wouldn't necessarily say that that's trauma, but it is an abandoning of principles, right? The
23:02non-aggression principle, thou shalt not initiate the use of force against human beings,
23:05applies to all, and in particular applies the most to children. Children are helpless and defense and
23:13legally, economically bound to their families, almost without exception. And so, I don't have to feed
23:20everyone in the world morally, but if I, or if someone, let's just say, so Bob, Bob doesn't have to
23:28feed everyone in the world, but if Bob lures Doug into his basement and locks him in his basement, now
23:37Bob is responsible to feed Doug because Doug can't get his food any other way. So, children are, in a sense,
23:45ensconced, embedded, or trapped. Trapped is not the right word because it's just a biological reality.
23:51A baby is, has no choice but to go home with the parents for the most part, and no choice but to stay and
23:56leave, and not leave. And children as a whole can't, can't leave their families. So, if you're not
24:04allowed to belt strangers, which you're not, morally that would be immoral, then of course you're not
24:12allowed to belt children. The non-aggression principle is the most necessary when there's a
24:19greater disparity of power. So, for instance, if you are a 98-pound weakling who's not particularly smart,
24:26saying it's really important that you don't go to a biker bar and start fights doesn't mean that
24:34much, right? Because you're not going to go out and start fights. Again, you can think of exceptions,
24:38but there's a general rule. If you are, you know, the small, bespectacled, goofy-toothed kid,
24:45then saying don't be a bully is probably unnecessary. If you're the big, kind of brutish and aggressive
24:52kid, saying don't be a bully makes more sense, right? So, where you don't have power,
24:58then morality is less important. We don't say to a slave, you should choose your occupation because
25:06the slave can't choose his occupation, right? We don't say to the slave, it's really important to
25:10exercise free will because the slave is ordered around and dictated to. We would focus more on the
25:15morality of the slave owner and saying you should free your slaves and so on, right?
25:18So, morality is most applicable to those who have the most power and there's no greater power
25:25disparity in the world, in the universe that we know of, than that between parent and child,
25:32right? So, another example would be if you're the boss and you ask your secretary out and you
25:39control her career, we have a problem with that. We don't have as much of a problem if two co-workers
25:45ask each other out, but if a direct manager asks out his direct employee, that's a conflict of
25:51interest and we have higher moral standards for him because he has power over her.
25:58So, being hit by your own parents is an egregious violation of the non-aggression principle because
26:06they have so much power over you, therefore we have the highest moral standards for them.
26:09All right. Quick question. And you know whatever I hear when people say quick question is quite the
26:15opposite. But anyway, quick question. Under UPB, there are three tests to check if the standard of
26:21morality is correct. Put two guys in a room test, the coma patient test, as well as the everybody being
26:29able to be moral at the same time. There are more ways to check. Excuse me. So, very briefly.
26:33So, if you say stealing is universally preferable behavior, okay, think of, again, Bob and Doug in a
26:43room, can they both steal from each other at the same time? Not really. And they certainly, after
26:48they've stolen from each other, then what, right? Whereas not stealing, they can both not steal from
26:52each other at the same time. And they can have a continuous moral state of not stealing, which means
26:59that they're doing something not evil. So, the coma patient test. So, the coma patient test is a way of
27:07dismantling positive moral obligations. There are no unchosen positive moral obligations. There's thou
27:13shalt not. There's not thou shalt. So, if you say, well, you have to help the poor. Well, can you do that
27:21when you're sleeping? No. So, does that mean you're evil when you're sleeping, right? Because if helping the
27:25poor is the good, then not helping the poor must be the evil, because it's the opposite, right?
27:31And you're not helping the poor when you're sleeping. So, the coma test is, if you say, well,
27:36you've got to help the poor, it's like, okay, well, what about a guy in a coma? Now, a guy in a coma
27:41is not assaulting, not murdering, not raping, not stealing. So, he's certainly not immoral.
27:49So, that's another test. So, UPB test. Is that, is everyone able to be moral at the same time,
27:53right? So, if you say, helping the poor is the good, then the person who's helping the poor
27:59is doing a good thing. However, it's asymmetrical, right? It means that somebody must be on the
28:05receiving end of helping the poor. If you say, giving money to the homeless is really good,
28:09then the homeless person who's receiving the money can't be good, because he's not doing
28:13the good. So, can everyone be moral at the same time? Can everyone not steal at the same time?
28:17Yep. And in eternity, can everyone not rape, not assault, not murder? Yes, absolutely, totally possible.
28:23But the best way to check is look for logical consistency, which these are sort of tests of
28:28as a whole. Hello, what is the most important thing in the entire universe?
28:36I mean, there are subjective aspects to that, and there are objective aspects to that. The most
28:41important thing is happiness, and the way that you achieve it is through virtue, right? You have to
28:48be rational. In order to be virtuous, consistent practice of virtue leads to happiness. So,
28:55reason equals virtue equals, or reason leads to virtue leads to happiness.
29:00Hi, Steph, long time, big fan of the show here. Give the increasingly woke nature of Christianity,
29:05not just in the Protestant circles, but also in the Catholic Church. Do you think Christianity
29:08will fade out like the old pagan faiths? So, as a moral philosopher, I don't want escape
29:18hatches to virtue. I don't want you to be able to snap your fingers and escape virtue. So,
29:25the problem, of course, with religious morality is that you can escape morality by disbelieving
29:34in religion. Now, I understand UPB is rational and objective, and you can escape UPB by denying reason
29:44and evidence. Sure, of course, right? But over time, not yet, but over time, those who deny reason
29:53and evidence in the realm of morality will be viewed as those who deny reason and evidence in the realm of
29:57basic science. So, if somebody says, well, the earth is banana-shaped, they're not going to be taken
30:02seriously, because reason and evidence. Or if somebody says two and two equals five, they're
30:06not taken very seriously, they're viewed as having a reality processing or a mental health problem.
30:11So, people who reject reason and evidence are then ejected from the conversation. So, if I were to
30:16go to a physics conference and say, I want to propose the argument that gases both expand and
30:23contract at the same time, or things fall both up and down at the same time under the same circumstances,
30:27they would say, no, you don't understand science. Science doesn't allow for those kinds of
30:32contradictions. In fact, you don't even need to test for it. It's just not true.
30:36If I would go to a mathematical conference and say, I have a complex proof of a particular
30:41conjecture or theorem based upon the axiom that two and two make five, they'd say, well,
30:47whatever you've done is not valid in the realm of mathematics, because two and two don't make five.
30:51So, you would be ejected from the conversation. So, once UPB becomes accepted, and it will take
30:57a generation or two, or maybe even longer, moral revolutions, I mean, it took that long for science,
31:02anti-slavery, and so on, the free market. And so, and morality is more volatile than any of those
31:09things. But once UPB is accepted, as it will be, I mean, otherwise, there's not going to be any life
31:15particularly worth living, because we'll all be enslaved. So, once UPB is accepted over time,
31:20then those who reject UPB will be viewed as mentally ill people with a reality processing
31:26problem in the same way that people who say that two and two make five are viewed as people with
31:31mental health challenges who have a reality processing problem. And there will be no way to
31:36escape it, right? So, right now, if you say morality is what God decrees, you can get rid of morality by
31:41not believing in God, whereas you cannot do that with UPB. It closes the circle and provides no
31:46escape hatch from the strictures and constraints of morality. All right. Explain, oh, sorry, if free
31:56will doesn't exist, should we somehow, sorry, should we nonetheless act as though it does? Well, free will,
32:04I mean, the word exist is, right? My phone exists, my hat exists, my shirt exists, they exist
32:10independent of my consciousness, and we can check that through the consistent behavior of matter and,
32:15you know, sense, evidence, testing. Logically consistent and sense, evidence, testing is how
32:19we know something exists. Now, free will is an effect of consciousness, right? Does gravity exist,
32:26or is gravity an effect of mass? Well, gravity doesn't exist independent of mass,
32:32and, like, where there is no mass around, there is no gravity other than, you know, very, very faint,
32:37blah, blah, blah, right? So, a concept doesn't exist in the same way as that which it describes does
32:46exist, right? There's a concept called a crowd, but a crowd is just an aggregation of individual people.
32:52There's no such thing as a crowd. When the people disperse, there's no such thing as the crowd left
32:57as a remnant, right? So, free will is a concept or a description of human consciousness, and the
33:04description is free will is our ability to compare proposed actions to ideal standards, which is
33:11morality or efficiency or so on, right? Or it could be something like business goals and so on. Our
33:17proposed actions, we have the ability to compare proposed actions to ideal standards. Now, does that
33:24ability exist? No, it doesn't exist. Consciousness is an effect of the brain. It's a description of the
33:33biochemical and material effects of neurons in the brain. A forest, as a concept, does not exist
33:41independent of the trees. It is a description of the trees. So, free will does not exist independent
33:48of human consciousness. It does not exist as a material entity in its own right. But free will is
33:54a valid concept. So, if you have two bananas, you add two more bananas, you now have four bananas.
34:01But the number two, the number two and the number four are not somehow attached to the bananas. They
34:05don't exist in an independent state. They are conceptual descriptions of what is occurring in
34:12the world. So, conceptual descriptions are valid or invalid. They do not exist independent of our minds.
34:19So, is free will a valid concept? Sure, yeah. Do we have the ability to compare proposed actions to
34:25ideal standards? Absolutely. We certainly have the ability to create ideal standards. Something like
34:30tell the truth or do not aggress or be courageous and so on. So, we have the ability to propose ideal
34:39standards or to have ideal standards. Can we compare our proposed actions to ideal standards? Sure,
34:46we do it all the time. Should I, shouldn't I, right? Should I have this piece of cheesecake? Should
34:49I go exercise? Should I tell the truth? Should I, whatever. Should I be mean? Should I succumb to
34:55temptation? So, we have ideal standards and we can compare our proposed actions to ideal standards all
34:59the time. This catches the determinist who says you should be a determinist. In other words, you should
35:04compare your proposed actions called continuing to believe in free will or act as if you have free
35:08will. You should compare your proposed actions to an ideal standard called determinism. So,
35:12it is, this formulation of free will, which is valid, rejects determinism as a self-contradictory
35:19argument. So, yes, it is valid. All right. This one's funny. I assume it's mostly comedy. Explain
35:26exactly why we shouldn't round up 95% of Walmart customers and place them into forced labor camps.
35:32They're fat, lifeless, and cost millions in added health care expenses annually. Discipline must be
35:40drilled into people, Steph, including our children. Yeah. Okay. So, obviously, this is somewhat tongue
35:45in cheek, but people have been detached from the consequences of their own actions through
35:54government subsidies and therefore they behave in self-destructive ways. So,
36:02of course, nobody should have the power to round up people and put them in forced labor camps because
36:08you think that's going to be used against people you don't like. Whatever violations of morality you
36:16attempted to put in place to oppose people you don't like will eventually, and usually not so
36:21eventually, be used on the people you love. So, it's just a bad deal. All right. Is there a step-by-step
36:27series exposition for peaceful parenting I could send to a friend? I sent to the website,
36:34but they didn't know where to start. I don't know what to say about that, and I think your friend
36:38is lying through his ass, or her ass. Let's just say his. Yeah, he's lying. So, at peacefulparenting.com,
36:45you go to the website. You can click to start reading the book. You can click to start listening
36:49to the audiobook. There's a little player there. There's an AI you can type into questions if you want.
36:53One of the questions you could be is, how do I listen to the audiobook? So, it's as easy as
36:59humanly possible. It's free. They don't have to pay anything. There's no sign-up. You don't have
37:03to put in your email. You don't have to give a credit card. So, you can click on the PDF on the
37:09HTML on the, I think the HTML's on there, on the Kindle or the e-book reader. So, you can click and
37:16read it right away. You can listen to the audiobook right away. There's instructions on how to get the
37:21podcast into a podcast feed if you want to do it that way. So, it is as easy as humanly possible.
37:27So, if you send someone to a website about peaceful parenting and they say, I couldn't figure out how
37:30to do anything with it, then they're just not telling the truth. They just don't want to do
37:35the peaceful parenting thing. So, don't ask me to make things easier for people who don't want to
37:41learn. All right. Last question here. And again, thanks for these great questions.
37:46Can you touch on what 2020 did to freedom of speech in general? I think the amount of coerced
37:52censorship and self-censorship shocked many of us. How did the YouTube ban affect you personally
37:57from a self-censorship perspective? Well, I mean, prior to the major bans, I had decided to stop doing
38:06politics. It was boring, repetitive, and not particularly stimulating. I love philosophy.
38:13I will sacrifice a lot to philosophy, but I still need to remain interested in and motivated to do
38:19philosophy. So, the danger level went up. The enjoyment level and the repetition went up.
38:26Enjoyment level went down, both for the repetition and, of course, the increased risk. And it just
38:30became something that I wasn't particularly interested in doing anymore. How did it affect
38:34me personally? I mean, it certainly was a little shocking. I mean, who's responsible for my
38:38anti-platforming? Me, basically. I mean, I'm responsible for it because I chose to touch a
38:44whole series of third rail topics for the sake of truth and honor. And, you know, if you want to
38:50look at sort of the psychology of it, I spent my whole childhood having to lie, being forced to lie.
38:55And as an independent, free-willed, free-thinking adult, I'm just not going to do that. I'm just not
39:01going to lie. I was forced to lie as a kid. I don't have to lie as an adult. So, I'm damn well not
39:06going to. That's just a basic honor thing. I just couldn't really live with myself if I did.
39:11And so, yeah, it was certainly a little bit shocking, as it always is, when something that
39:16happens like that. And I was surprised at how few people followed me to new platforms. But then I
39:22realized that that was very liberating. It allowed me to focus on stuff that a much smaller group of
39:27sort of hardcore philosophy enthusiasts and I could work on together. It allowed me to,
39:32I mean, I did wonderful things like I have a lengthy novel called Almost. It's about the
39:39history of a British and a German family from World War I to World War II. Very, very powerful
39:44stuff. Some of the best stuff I've ever written. And I got to read that as an audiobook. And that
39:51was a beautiful thing for me to do. A very powerful thing for me to do. I really enjoyed it. I got to
39:55write three more books. I got to do lots of great shows with people. And so, I realized that
40:02when people leave you alone, you are no longer responsible for pleasing them. You can please
40:10yourself and the few who remain. And that was a glorious time for me. I really, really enjoyed
40:15it. And it's not over yet. I'm still not going back into politics. But it certainly had me
40:28proud of what I did, but no desire to particularly circle back and do it again. I'm, you know,
40:36smart people hate repetition. Less intelligent people tend to love it, right? So, I mean, not
40:44the kids are unintelligent, but you know, kids love the same stories over and over again. And when I was
40:48a kid, I loved the same stories. I love watching the same Mighty Mouse cartoon over and over again.
40:51But when you become an adult, like people are on here saying, Steph, you got to get back to talking
40:54about IQ. And it's like, I did that. I mean, I talked to 17 world-renowned experts in the topic
41:00of IQ. It was very interesting. I did my presentations and all of that. And why would I want to, you know,
41:07I wouldn't want to go back to grade five. And I wouldn't want to go back to topics I've already
41:10covered before. I need to have new topics, new conversations, new interests. So, that's why it's
41:16great having these questions and being able to talk about these new topics, or at least if they're old
41:20topics in a new context. So, it wasn't so much self-censorship as been there, done that,
41:28and want to move on to new topics, new experiences, new ideas, new arguments, new conversations.
41:33And of course, I thank everyone enormously for this wonderful welcome back to X. It's a great
41:37pleasure to be here. And I will talk to you tonight, 7 p.m. Actually, no, I don't think this is going
41:41out today. Maybe it is. Who knows? But anyway, Wednesday nights, 7 p.m. Eastern, Friday night,
41:477 p.m. Sundays, 11 a.m. Look forward to your conversations. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.

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